You keep acting as if there is some sort of procedure in place to the cuts they're making, and they are highly scrutinizing every decision they make. Have you not been paying attention at all?

Anyone else think this conversation is tiresome, has run it's course several times and has nothing to do with topic at hand?

Kinda like Trump!

Any union environment is highly inefficient.... While I'm not in a union position, the organization I'm working at is mostly unionized and I see it everyday. A task that would take me a few hours at previous companies would take a week here... lol... That's because parts of the task needs to go to the right people and go through all sorts of approvals, etc...

What annoys me the most is when I'm done what I need to do and have time on my hands, I would go into the Helpdesk queue and see how I can help them out and get the numbers down... but nope... can't do that here because I'd be taking someone's job. So I just sit there surfing away and nobody cares... the Director sees me do it and he doesn't care... he only sees me doing it because he comes around to chit chat with the team for half the day...

I've just learned to adapt to it, stretch out my work, etc...

I worked in Finance for a really big fed department for the last 7 years and everything you’re saying is, at worst, dead wrong / inaccurate or, at best, an extremely poor understanding of how it actually works.

You should never “assume” anything unless you have firsthand experience. That’s how we end up with Trumpalumps and trucker ding dongs convoying to Ottawa, they all think everything is so simple and it’s all broken and they know exactly how to fix it.

I think what I'm hearing/reading is that even in government, it all depends which department, which level... each of you can have valid first hand (married to 1st hand) experiences and not be wrong. This is the problem with general stereotypes ... it can be true and not true at the same time.

I kinda started this when I posed, is it all bad to 'trim the fat' off government departments based on stereotypes but it's time to move on.

i actually like that it's a reality check for all. can't blame him for actioning fast.

i really want to read up on reddit on all those who voted for him and then BAM lost their jobs due to DOGE.

Trump voters will be on X or 4chan

HOLY SHIT...

Putin is laughing and licking his lips -

Former U.S. government employees probably updated their LinkedIn profiles in order to get interviews with Russian and Chinese employers haha:


Russia and China attempting to recruit disgruntled federal employees, US intelligence shows

From CNN's Natasha Bertrand, Katie Bo Lillis and Zachary Cohen

Foreign adversaries including Russia and China have recently directed their intelligence services to ramp up recruiting of US federal employees working in national security, targeting those who have been fired or feel they could be soon, according to four people familiar with recent US intelligence on the issue.

The intelligence indicates that foreign adversaries are eager to exploit the Trump administration’s efforts to conduct mass layoffs across the federal workforce – a plan laid out by the Office of Personnel Management earlier this week.

Russia and China are focusing their efforts on recently fired employees with security clearances and probationary employees at risk of being terminated, who may have valuable information about US critical infrastructure and vital government bureaucracy, two of the sources said. At least two countries have already set up recruitment websites and begun aggressively targeting federal employees on LinkedIn, two of the sources said.

The adversaries think the employees “are at their most vulnerable right now,” another of the sources said. “Out of a job, bitter about being fired, etc.”

“It doesn’t take a lot of imagination to see that these cast aside federal workers with a wealth of institutional knowledge represent staggeringly attractive targets to the intelligence services of our competitors and adversaries,” a third source familiar with the recent US assessments told CNN.

CNN has reached out to the Office of the Director of National Intelligence as well as the embassies of China and Russia in Washington for comment.

Holy fuck that was frustrating to watch. Zelensky asks Vance if he's been to Ukraine and Vance says "I've watched and seen the stories" without actually saying no. Typical politician answer.

Huge respect to Zelensky for not losing his temper while talking with these two parasites.

What just happened in the Oval Office with Trump and Zelenskyy was disgusting. Trump and his whole team are traitors to the Western world.

It's incredible how much Zelenskyy has done these past few years and to see him being lectured by two assholes like that is just gross.

OMG, this is not going to end well! Why would they televise that ??!!

Trump thread 2.0
 

Good for Zelensky for not signing that agreement involving critical minerals pillage of Ukraine.

Cheeto cannot gloat about getting compensation for the U.S. now hahah:

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Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky left the White House just moments ago after a shouting match with President Donald Trump and Vice President JD Vance in front of the media in the Oval Office.

He departed without signing the minerals deal and without holding the joint news conference with Trump, as was earlier planned.

He did not speak to the media before departing in his motorcade.

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It seems to me that they want to make Zelensky and thus Ukraine look self entitled and weak. They want to be able to treat him like a teenage brat who took the car without asking and crashed it.

Then they can walk away, hand Ukraine over to Russia who's much more responsible.

America is imploding. Chances are they will recover but it's going to take time. Europe better take this opportunity to pull it's shit together, realize it should have stopped resting on the American security backstop long ago, stop bickering and become a unit for good.

Canada too on our own scale.

The markets aren't going to like it.

This has to be one of the most embarrassing moments for a sitting US president. What a shit show.

they have no shame, there's no such thing as embarrassment. it's also a societal problem these days; shameless, uneducated fools making the world a worse off place.

Therein lies the problem... the general public may think it's embarrassing, but Trump and the people around him will say and think they had a productive meeting!

It's so sad, because everyone knew Trump would dump on Ukraine as soon he became president, but it's so crazy to ACTUALLY see it happen.

I keep hoping that one day Trump might actually surprise everyone and do the right thing, but that day never actually comes. I think he's either literally wired to do the wrong thing OR he just likes getting the negative attention of doing the wrong thing.

Sadly, I've just come to realise there's no hope for him.

Trump wanted Zellensky to stroke his d*ck like JD Vance ... but some people have self-respect.

I think people don't realize how bad that meeting was, optically that was utterly insane to watch.

How can people not come to the conclusion that Trump has some serious skeletons in his closet in terms of his finances relations tied to Russia?

He sounded for verbatim some kind of Russian propagandist for the Kremlin in that back and forth.

that was so hard to watch. these people should have nowhere near this level of political power. vance is just trying to get pet on the head after the meeting so badly its cringe to the nth degree.

All are losing.
Too bad Ukraine has to bow to US as that's where some if not big chunk of money are coming from.

That “you haven’t even thanked us” stuff on repeat is right out of a mental abuse / bullying handbook my sister had for abused women

Just gonna echo everyone else's sentiments about Ukraine and Zelensky here bcos there is really not much else that I can think of. :(

I hope Europe will step up to do the right thing, now that it is in plain sight that America can no longer be relied on. Along the same lines, I hope the Canadian federal gov will also wake up and take our national security matters more seriously.

On the military equipment front, Europe's problem seems to be a combination of some degree of unwillingness to increase military spendings, as well as lacking the capacity to actually build those equipment at scale. And Germany has the added problem of an extremely slow-moving bureaucracy.

For us, our military spending levels is absymal -- some 1.3x% of GDP in 2023 to 2024, with only a stated goal of 1.58% by 2030. (I'm sure most of us is at least vaguely aware that the NATO target is 2%, with Trump now pushing for 5%.) On top of that, apparently our military procurement process is a giant mess that is so hugely inefficient that we wouldn't be able to spend more money even if we had the money and wanted to spend it.

I seem to think that someone here on RS pointed out that our artic security is actually hugely at risk bcos of Russia. As climate change continues, arctic waterways will inevitably open up, and that'll be difficult for us to deal with once Russia starts sending ships and subs thru there.

... need to post the entire interaction ...

...but... this is relentless...