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Even if Trump kicks the bucket tomorrow do you people think the US is just going to do a 180 and go back to normal? My prediction is President JD will double down on some of his policies in order to retain his MAGA-cred. Then there's the populace full of crazies who probably going to go full conspiracy and think Trump pulled a 2pac and is living it up on an island somewhere pulling JD's strings.
My naive and wishful thinking mind would like to hold on to the belief that the US is not beyond redemption yet...
And yet I know American society is getting more polarized by the day. Instead of trying to find common ground for everyone's benefit, they are fighting along partisian lines at the expense of one another. So I am not at all confident that the US still has the ability to self-correct now.
I don't think it's too naive to hope that US can be redeemed, it's just that the damage is so deep already and will continue to get much deeper that even if a saviour or hero shows up (Mecha-Obama or Bizarro Trump) that it won't be enough to get them back on track. It's going to take decades to repair the damage and all that time spent repairing the damage is time for China (and India) to take the crown.
~35% of the US is irredeemably stupid - ignorant and uneducated. They only know how to perform harm to themselves and others. These people consume more resources than they produce yet think of themselves as the ones who are being taken advantage of - they ARE the burden.
How does one course correct and fix a country when a third of the citizens will always do the wrong thing?
Edit: https://wapo.st/3URW7PH - Washington Post article about Trump cutting grants to develop low carbon cement, he's destroying US competitiveness in this area for a product that buyers badly want. This is death by a million cuts. They are giving up the opportunity to be in the game entirely.
I don't think it's too naive to hope that US can be redeemed...
I am honestly at a loss of word at the debacle that the US has become. And you are absolutely correct that with each passing minute where the Trump administration is inflicting more harm on the US and its citizens, it is absolutely making China's job to take over as the World #1 easier.
(I am personally pretty skeptical of India being able to become a world super power, given how much problems they have at all kinds of levels.)
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The whole world has gone down a road no one can recover from, and it's nothing to do with governments, it's because so much of the general public is so fucking stupid.
Even if Trump kicks the bucket tomorrow do you people think the US is just going to do a 180 and go back to normal? My prediction is President JD will double down on some of his policies in order to retain his MAGA-cred. Then there's the populace full of crazies who probably going to go full conspiracy and think Trump pulled a 2pac and is living it up on an island somewhere pulling JD's strings.
I do think if Trump were gone the in-fighting that would result within the republican party itself would cause it to implode though, whatever you want to say about Trump there’s nobody else like him. JD don’t got whatever Trump does.
India won't overtake the US, at least not anytime soon.
That country has way too much ingrained corruption and lacks a stable middle class to encourage that type of sustained growth IMHO. India also lacks innovation, whereas the US is still a bastion for that, notably in tech.
China on the other hand is an inevitability, if not already.
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LOOK AT ME IM MIKE AND I HAVE A BIG HOG AND I DRINK TEQULA AND WORK OUT AND LISTEN TO CHARLI XCX ON THE BEACH IN BERMUDA
Grow up fuckin Peter Pan and get a good nights rest.
If you need a few custom circuit boards made. No place in North America can do it. With companies in China you upload your design and they arrive in like a week for a few bucks each. Some place will also CNC metal parts for you and 3D print in a bunch of materials including metal.
Want to buy a laser engraver/cutter? You can get a 100 watt laser for around 5k from China. A western company will be like 20K plus.
The makerspace I am a part of is looking at getting a fiber laser to cut metal with. Western company 100K. One from China 20K and it will also laser weld and clean. Aslo has a 130 watt co2 laser built in to cut wood and plastic with.
China on the other hand is an inevitability, if not already.
IMO, China's achilles heel lies in its rapidly aging and declining population. In particular, its younger generation is also feeling very much disenfranchised and disillusioned. Whether the negative impacts of these societal changes are happening fast enough to prevent China from overtaking the US remains to be seen. But suffice to say, they are serious structural problems that have no easy solutions to solve. As a matter of fact, there may not be any viable solutions at all since China is such a populous country.
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The whole world has gone down a road no one can recover from, and it's nothing to do with governments, it's because so much of the general public is so fucking stupid.
India won't overtake the US, at least not anytime soon.
That country has way too much ingrained corruption and lacks a stable middle class to encourage that type of sustained growth IMHO. India also lacks innovation, whereas the US is still a bastion for that, notably in tech.
China on the other hand is an inevitability, if not already.
Yup, way too much corruption. Politicians in India care more about lining their pockets than actually governing, which is why much of the country still feels stuck in 1947. The nation is also bogged down by religion and caste divisions, making it harder to move forward.
Despite the negatives, there is one silver lining which is India does have an emerging middle class, which will help grow the economy.
India is moving into the sinosphere of influence. That’s like the dumbest fucking thing the US could have done. You don’t want India and China being good friends. That’s like probably 70-80% of global manufacturing centered in two countries and both have populations to support huge consumerism.
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Ben Rhodes, the former deputy national security advisor during the Obama administration, joined Tommy Vietor on a new episode of the podcast "Pod Save America" on YouTube to discuss Trump's approach to foreign policy. Rhodes noted that more than 20 countries gathered in China recently with the express purpose of "humiliating" Trump.
But Trump's management of one relationship in particular caught Rhodes' attention. Trump and Indian President Narendra Modi have become distant, as evidenced by Modi attending the gathering in China alongside Chinese President Xi Jinping and Russian President Vladimir Putin.
Rhodes said the development with Modi is "hugely important" from a foreign policy perspective.
"Some people think foreign policy is really complicated. Sometimes it's not," Rhodes said. "If you treat someone like s---, they're going to cozy up to your adversaries. And there's Modi signaling, 'Hey, I'm actually moving in the direction of this team, not your team.' And that is a massive tectonic shift."
For decades, U.S. presidents have sought to cozy up to India because of the country's growing economic influence, Rhodes explained. However, Rhodes said Trump has seemingly thrown that relationship away because Modi refused to nominate Trump for the Nobel Peace Prize after tensions between India and Pakistan from earlier this year settled.
"It couldn't be dumber," Rhodes said.
"For Trump to come in, it makes India, which is a very proud country of over a billion people, feel humiliated," Rhodes added. "It's like they're in the same weight class as Pakistan, and the U.S. told them to stop it, and Trump should get a Nobel Peace Prize. It is absolutely humiliating to Modi that Trump did that."
Get your popcorn ready, a group of women who were victims of Epstein are speaking up, and threatening to reveal their own list of clients if the US Congress/House doesn't release all info.
Hyundai is building a 7.6 billion dollar ev battery plant in Georgia but all construction had to stop becase ice raided the place. America's fukd. Why would anyone want to do business in America.
Anyone remember project Veritas? Well they set up the DOJ Deputy chief using the hinge dating app. He told his date that they where removing all conservitive names in the epstein files and only leaving democrats.
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