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twitchyzero 09-30-2018 08:11 PM

Sulawesi quake and tsunami
 
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meanwhile, RS argues about car mods and fried chicken

latest death toll over 1200
the officials there JUST started accepting international help :facepalm:

I can't find a direct fund for redcross.ca
anyone know where else?

ilovebacon 09-30-2018 09:30 PM

7.5, that is quite high. I may not remember what its like to have a 7.5 earthquake but doesnt that kind of altitude able to shake down tall buildings?

danned 09-30-2018 09:38 PM

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BIC_BAWS 09-30-2018 09:53 PM

Thanks for posting this up, Twitchy! I hadn't heard anything about this until now.

Jmac 09-30-2018 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by ilovebacon (Post 8921469)
7.5, that is quite high. I may not remember what its like to have a 7.5 earthquake but doesnt that kind of altitude able to shake down tall buildings?

Depends on design of the building and other characteristics of the quake (eg. Depth)

twitchyzero 09-30-2018 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by ilovebacon (Post 8921469)
7.5, that is quite high. I may not remember what its like to have a 7.5 earthquake but doesnt that kind of altitude able to shake down tall buildings?

anything you would've felt in Vancouver would've been 100000000zeromoretrailingzeros times lighter...just because it's typically so far out and deep in the sea

i believe most of the fatalities in this disaster is due to the tsunami as the earthquake knocked out the towers to send the emerg text msgs...and the government lifted the tsunami warning rather pre-maturely

you would think a country as seasoned as Indonesia to tsunamis would have their shit figured out

that begs the question, are we gonna get the tsunami texts in BC when shit hits the fan?

Mr.Money 09-30-2018 11:17 PM

that is terrible...


the helicopter while it was happening tells the real story,lot of people couldn't get away...no warning system?!

twitchyzero 10-01-2018 12:31 AM

my sheltered brain cannot comprehend a house moving that fast nor the ground making popping noises like that


was on the neighboring island earlier this year so it almost kind of hits home

Infiniti 10-01-2018 03:24 AM

^ that popping noise is the sound of tree trunks snapping like twigs as the water pushes through and levels everything in its path

Badhobz 10-01-2018 05:15 AM

There's been a lot of sesmic activities in the ring of fire recently. Look at how many earthquakes japan had over the last few years . Hopefully it won't be our turn soon. Need alot more minor quakes to relieve techtonic pressures so we don't get hit with the big one.

Nlkko 10-01-2018 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Badhobz (Post 8921493)
There's been a lot of sesmic activities in the ring of fire recently. Look at how many earthquakes japan had over the last few years . Hopefully it won't be our turn soon. Need alot more minor quakes to relieve techtonic pressures so we don't get hit with the big one.

It doesn't work like that. Because of the subduction nature of the plate we're on, it will be a massive and devastating "megathrust" quake once it happens. There can be mini quakes but they do nothing to "release the pressure" of the big one.

Vancouver Island will bear the brunt of it though so we'll only get aftershocks.

bcedhk 10-01-2018 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr.Money (Post 8921477)
that is terrible...


the helicopter while it was happening tells the real story,lot of people couldn't get away...no warning system?!

It's a developing city with lots of slums and poor infrastructure. I think everyone was in a state of shock and confusion after the quake so it's hard to really gather people to evacuate.

welfare 10-01-2018 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Nlkko (Post 8921502)
It doesn't work like that. Because of the subduction nature of the plate we're on, it will be a massive and devastating "megathrust" quake once it happens. There can be mini quakes but they do nothing to "release the pressure" of the big one.

Vancouver Island will bear the brunt of it though so we'll only get aftershocks.

Isn't the question of the San Andreas fault line whether the big events happen in threes or twos every five hundred years? Something like that. Like if it's twos,then we won't be expecting one here for hundreds of years, but if it's threes, could happen anytime?
I may have the numbers off, but i think that was the general theory.

twitchyzero 10-01-2018 09:16 PM

two 6.0 quakes just hit another part of Indonesia today

dozens of dead children pulled out from a landslide-torn church, and jailed criminals get a free pass

https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/se...perate-for-aid

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ziggyx 10-02-2018 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by welfare (Post 8921601)
Isn't the question of the San Andreas fault line whether the big events happen in threes or twos every five hundred years? Something like that. Like if it's twos,then we won't be expecting one here for hundreds of years, but if it's threes, could happen anytime?
I may have the numbers off, but i think that was the general theory.


You may be right or wrong but I would say the san andreas fault isn't the only one we should be worried about. There is also the Cascadian subduction zone which they say could be the more devastating earthquake if it hits.

The last earthquake from the CSZ was around the 1700's and they say it was around 9.0 which is significantly larger than the san andreas earthquake. That one is supposed to happen every 300-500 years or so? So we might be due for one in that regard....

Either faults would have a deadly earthquake and the problem is we need to be prepared. I would think our only means of getting aid would be from the East and we basically only have one route going into the lower mainland (the north and south would be just as screwed I'd imagine). Unlike many other disasters, warnings can be given but earthquakes you'll never know.

twitchyzero 10-02-2018 07:27 AM

the rough estimate is 15k death in the Cascadian (Nor Cal to Tofino) which is expected to strike similar to the 2004 Indian Ocean and 2011 Japan quakes and be felt as far as Sask/Manitoba...I assume that's not anticipating pop'n growth in the next 50-100 years

as long as you're not on the Western half of the Island, Richmond or Delta and a dozen or two meters above sea level, there's probably not too much concern regarding loss of life...but the financial aspect is really gonna sting for years to come and just how ill-prepared we are is what's actually scary...no one takes the big one drills seriously....I bet very few have sustainable kits at home...and I have little faith in the community (refer to fire station free salt video). Most homes will probably stand after initial shock but become too expensive to repair or topple over from aftershocks. Victoria will probably take a significant blow, Nanaimo/Courtney might fare better, most of US west coast will be so fubar'd to care about us, Kelowna/Kamloops won't be able to reach us with road closures/major traffic jam, Alberta and Prince George will probably be our only real hope assuming their planes can find a makeshift runway (little doubt YVR is as ded as it gets, Abby airport might stand a chance)...I think you can probably draw from the fort mac fire relief efforts but multiply the resource strain exponentially and take away most roads...that's probably the crisis we'll face

tl;dr who actually has quake insurance on their home? or a sustenance kit worth a damn?

Traum 10-02-2018 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by ziggyx (Post 8921675)
The last earthquake from the CSZ was around the 1700's and they say it was around 9.0 which is significantly larger than the san andreas earthquake. That one is supposed to happen every 300-500 years or so? So we might be due for one in that regard....

I attended some sort of information earthquake seminar a few years ago, and the scholar who studied this (I think he is from the Island, either working at UVic or some other post secondary institution on the Island) was saying we are overdue for the "BIG ONE". I seem to remember him saying that whatever earthquake records we were able to put togther shows that major earthquakes in our area (west coast BC, including the Island) recurs every 200 - 250 years, and currently, we've already past the 300 year mark. So basically, the BIG ONE can hit any time. But seismic activities run on a totally different time scale compared to our puny human lives, so "any time" can basically mean the next minute all the way up to the next 50+ years.

Richmond and Delta would be hit with bad floods (esp Ladner, Tsawwassen). Places along the Juan de Fuca straight would get flooded, and a lot of sediments would get carried from the waters onto land, so it is gonna get UGLY. I seem to remember that Victoria will get hit really badly by floods as well.

Badhobz 10-02-2018 10:56 AM

i cant get earthquake insurance in richmond so when the big one happens, imma gonna inflate my shitty little 60 dollar walmart raft and hopefully use that to escape this shithole.

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Dragon-88 10-02-2018 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Badhobz (Post 8921725)
i cant get earthquake insurance in richmond so when the big one happens, imma gonna inflate my shitty little 60 dollar walmart raft and hopefully use that to escape this shithole.

https://ae01.alicdn.com/kf/HTB1MCt8K...s-hot-sale.jpg

And the first pile of debris you run over will pop that thing no problem..

welfare 10-02-2018 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by twitchyzero (Post 8921459)

meanwhile, RS argues about car mods and fried chicken

But weren't you the dude arguing about fried chicken?

E-40six 10-02-2018 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Badhobz (Post 8921725)
i cant get earthquake insurance in richmond so when the big one happens, imma gonna inflate my shitty little 60 dollar walmart raft and hopefully use that to escape this shithole.

https://ae01.alicdn.com/kf/HTB1MCt8K...s-hot-sale.jpg

lol you need to find a different agent, Ive got Earthquake and its an extra $700 a year :lawl:

Hondaracer 10-02-2018 06:13 PM

Earth quake insurance isn’t worth it.

A) the deductible will be like 75k

B) is your insurance company gonna go under before your house gets rebuilt?

If the state of our area is everyone’s house is in ruins you’re gonna he SOL and on your own for potentially YEARS before anything happens, if nothing else simply due to the lack of trades.

Jmac 10-02-2018 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Traum (Post 8921724)
I attended some sort of information earthquake seminar a few years ago, and the scholar who studied this (I think he is from the Island, either working at UVic or some other post secondary institution on the Island) was saying we are overdue for the "BIG ONE". I seem to remember him saying that whatever earthquake records we were able to put togther shows that major earthquakes in our area (west coast BC, including the Island) recurs every 200 - 250 years, and currently, we've already past the 300 year mark. So basically, the BIG ONE can hit any time. But seismic activities run on a totally different time scale compared to our puny human lives, so "any time" can basically mean the next minute all the way up to the next 50+ years.

Richmond and Delta would be hit with bad floods (esp Ladner, Tsawwassen). Places along the Juan de Fuca straight would get flooded, and a lot of sediments would get carried from the waters onto land, so it is gonna get UGLY. I seem to remember that Victoria will get hit really badly by floods as well.

South end of Victoria is pretty much all <20m above sea level, but many of the suburbs are in the hills. The 20m mark runs right through Royal Jubilee hospital on a topographic map, which isn't good, since that's the largest hospital.

twitchyzero 10-02-2018 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by welfare (Post 8921762)
But weren't you the dude arguing about fried chicken?

:eek5r:


Quote:

Originally Posted by Hondaracer (Post 8921767)

B) is your insurance company gonna go under before your house gets rebuilt?

I always see this argument

but so few homes are covered under quake damage that going with big enough of an insurance company should fare better?

I definitely agree with your other two points

ziggyx 10-02-2018 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hondaracer (Post 8921767)
Earth quake insurance isn’t worth it.

A) the deductible will be like 75k

B) is your insurance company gonna go under before your house gets rebuilt?

If the state of our area is everyone’s house is in ruins you’re gonna he SOL and on your own for potentially YEARS before anything happens, if nothing else simply due to the lack of trades.



Lol not to mention the chances of you surviving... if you're dead it's one less person to pay out.


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