Speed limit DECREASE on 15 BC highway stretches

[Acura604]

https://bc.ctvnews.ca/b-c-decreasing...uOh8LEWvApxIfA

The full list of decreased speed limits includes:

Highway 1: Cowichan Bay to Nanaimo - 90 km/h to 80 km/h
Highway 1: Whatcom Road to Hope - 110 km/h to 100 km/h
Highway 1: Boston Bar to Jackass Mountain - 100 km/h to 90 km/h
Highway 1: Tobiano to Savona - 100 km/h to 90 km/h
Highway 1: Chase to Sorrento - 100 km/h to 90 km/h
Highway 3: Sunday Summit to Princeton - 90 km/h to 80 km/h
Highway 7: Agassiz to Hope - 100 km/h to 90 km/h
Highway 19: Parksville to Campbell River - 120 km/h to 110 km/h
Highway 19: Bloedel to Sayward - 100 km/h to 90 km/h
Highway 97A: Grindrod to Sicamous - 90 km/h to 80 km/h
Highway 97C: Merritt to Aspen Grove - 110 km/h to 100 km/h
Highway 97C: Aspen Grove to Peachland - 120 km/h to 110 km/h
Highway 99: Horseshoe Bay to Squamish - 90 km/h to 80 km/h
Highway 99: Squamish to Whistler - 100 km/h to 90 km/h
Highway 99: Whistler to Pemberton - 90 km/h to 80 km/h

[Jmac]

Boooooooooooo

I generally go 5-10 over (so 95-100) and most people between Duncan and Nanaimo are flying by me. There are very rarely any accidents.

I’m guessing this is related to the ICBC deficit.

[The Producer]

wtf

Highway 99: Horseshoe Bay to Squamish - 90 km/h to 80 km/h
Highway 99: Squamish to Whistler - 100 km/h to 90 km/h
Highway 99: Whistler to Pemberton - 90 km/h to 80 km/h

The RCMP will be boosting enforcement in crash-heavy areas in order to GRAB CASH make sure people are respecting the new limits.

[AstulzerRZD]

Apparently fatal crash rate up 118%, injury claims up 30%, claims up 43% on the highways raised to 120km/h according to UBC study

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/briti...says-1.4857985

Full 3 year post implementation study conducted this year here: https://www2.gov.bc.ca/assets/gov/dr...rview-2018.pdf

[Berzerker]

I feel safer already!
Any idea what time of year the majority of fatalities occurred in? Is this a winter time majority?

Berz out.

[320icar]

Don’t care. I usually go 30-35 over anyways. That’s still some booshit tho

[!Aznboi128]

Speed has never killed anyone. Suddenly becoming stationary, that's what gets you - Clarkson

[UnknownJinX]

I will just leave this one here again:

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I guess anything to make up that 1.3 billion dollar deficit...

[Eff-1]

Seeing the Hwy 99 speed limits going down frustrates me. If they are saying there has been an increase in serious collisions, I would be interested in knowing the seasonality of those crashes. I suspect it's because when the weather is poor, people don't adjust accordingly.

In daylight and when the road is dry, the new speed limit is way too low and will frustrate drivers causing more incidents.

They did install those digital speed limits but whomever is responsible for changing those is clueless. There's been many times when they are stuck at 100 when the conditions are dark, foggy and rainy and I'm keeping it to 80 wondering why it still says 100!

[underscore]

On the one hand, rolling them down only in the areas where accidents increased seems logical. They tried it, it didn't work, so change it back. However

inattentiveness, road conditions and driving too fast for conditions

I don't see what the speed limit has to do with any of those things.

[Bouncing Bettys]

If they were looking to make up for lost revenue, they should have been improving efforts to enforce proper lane usage. Left-lane hogs, following too close, sudden lane changes without enough space, pulling out or turning when it isn't safe, etc. The speed limits could have remained as high as they were and just as safe, if not more, if they actually enforced the rules of the road.

[Dragon-88]

Driving East on HWY at 10PM on a Monday night is a real headache.. Every lane is being blocked by slow drivers, those who want to move at a slightly faster than flowing traffic now have to weave in and out of cars.

Larger commercial trucks sit in the middle lane and if they want to pass slower cars then they hog the left lane, trying to speed up and get out driven by the C-Lai. Then that truck has to make its way back to the middle lane, which everyone is now denying because who the fuck wants to drive behind a truck in the left lane.

It gets to a point where I just straight cut you off if you're hogging the left lane. Some people get the point, most don't.

[SumAznGuy]

Originally Posted by Bouncing Bettys

If they were looking to make up for lost revenue, they should have been improving efforts to enforce proper lane usage. Left-lane hogs, following too close, sudden lane changes without enough space, pulling out or turning when it isn't safe, etc.

Don't forget driving with headlights on or not driving with HIGH beams on.

[originalhypa]

I've put thousands of km on the S2S in the last 5 years.
The problem isn't speed, it's volume combined with varying driving skills. Who is more dangerous? The idiot in the black Camry weaving in and out of traffic, or the old fucker in the left lane doing 65?

[Great68]

Originally Posted by Jmac

Boooooooooooo

I generally go 5-10 over (so 95-100) and most people between Duncan and Nanaimo are flying by me. There are very rarely any accidents.

I’m guessing this is related to the ICBC deficit.

I thought the section between Duncan to Ladysmith was always 90 even before the limit change?

If they're reducing a limit that was never increased in 2014, fuck these NDP assholes.

[white rocket]

Lame. Distracted driving and not knowing the rules is way more of a concern than actual speed. The difference between 80kph and 90kph when you're balls deep in your cell phone while driving is negligible.

Why not just make it 50kph everywhere and post up radar traps everywhere. Cash grab supreme!!

[AzNightmare]

Originally Posted by white rocket

Lame. Distracted driving and not knowing the rules is way more of a concern than actual speed. The difference between 80kph and 90kph when you're balls deep in your cell phone while driving is negligible.

Why not just make it 50kph everywhere and post up radar traps everywhere. Cash grab supreme!!

That's too obvious then.

[fishCak3s]

I literally said WTF out so loud that my baby woke up

[westopher]

Originally Posted by originalhypa

I've put thousands of km on the S2S in the last 5 years.
The problem isn't speed, it's volume combined with varying driving skills. Who is more dangerous? The idiot in the black Camry weaving in and out of traffic, or the old fucker in the left lane doing 65?

Realistically, with the slower speed limits, congestion could increase and cause more shit.

[Jmac]

Originally Posted by Great68

I thought the section between Duncan to Ladysmith was always 90 even before the limit change?

If they're reducing a limit that was never increased in 2014, fuck these NDP assholes.

It was 90 km/h most of the way, yes, except 80 km/h through Chemainus and a 4 km section north of Duncan (from Sprott Rd to Beverly St).

Also, between Ladysmith and Nanaimo, it was all 90 km/h as well except a 3.5 km 80 km/h section around the airport.
Between Cowichan Bay and Duncan, it was all 90 km/h as well except a 2.5 km 80 km/h section south of Duncan (this section, which was just widened and repaved, will actually be reduced to 60 km/h according to the local paper).

It's amazing because, when I look at that list, I see a bunch of highways on the island that are actually prone to major accidents/fatalities having their speed limits reduced. Namely the Malahat (Hwy 1), Pat Bay Highway (Hwy 17), Highway 18 between Duncan and Lake Cowichan, and Highway 19 between Nanaimo and Parksville (specifically between Lantzville and Nanoose Bay).

I'd say the highway between Duncan and Nanaimo is probably the SAFEST 50 km section of highway on the island (possibly in BC), so this makes absolutely no fucking sense to me. But what do I know, I've only driven 30,000+ km/year on it for most of the past 20 years.

So this is 36.5 km of a 52 km stretch that will actually have its speed limit REDUCED by at least 10 km/h from the pre-2014 speed limits.

[noclue]

I bet it was due to too many retards speeding in the rain with shitty/non winter tires.

[Jmac]

Originally Posted by noclue

I bet it was due to too many retards speeding in the rain with shitty/non winter tires.

Except it's not, otherwise you would've seen it happen on the Malahat, which is frequently closed due to accidents rather than on comparatively safe sections.

[westopher]

Except they are putting speed cameras on the malahat instead.

[Jmac]

Originally Posted by westopher

Except they are putting speed cameras on the malahat instead.

The speed cameras they've proposed will allow them to ticket based on AVERAGE speed, which will mean little to no difference during the time periods where major accidents actually occur (heavy traffic) and will only punish drivers during off-peak periods (where accidents seldom occur).

People speed on the Malahat in the passing zones to get past slow drivers before getting stuck behind another slow driver, so their average speed during heavy traffic is still likely to be below the speed limit even if they go 40 km/h over on the passing sections.

[RRxtar]

nowhere in the study does it break down accidents by month or season. the last 2 years on the coquihalla and connector have been absolute havoc and the worst road conditions in memory. the highway has been closed due to road conditions more in the last 2 years than any other year, and plowing and sanding has gone way downhill.

120km/h on the connector is as fucking safe as you can get, and lowering it to 110 makes absolutely no difference. i honestly cant believe people are crashing on the connector on a clear day. however, they needed to use the condition dependent speed limit signs more and lower the speed limit in poor conditions.