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LuHua 11-28-2018 02:00 PM

Class 4 Req. for Ride Share, For/Against?
 
https://vancouversun.com/news/local-...ailing-drivers

So because of recent news, there was a discussion between a few friends about the class 4 requirement. One was arguing that since the ride share drivers are driving the same cars on the same roads they should just have a class 5 requirement.

Given the average driver on the road, the current taxi requirement, and just based off professional expectations and exposure to driving conditions I'm leaning towards class 4 for a higher knowledge and safety standard.

Thoughts?

68style 11-28-2018 02:11 PM

How do you figure being a Class 4 makes you any safer? All you're doing is passing a driving test just like any other level of license. This iteration doesn't even have the airbrake portion, so the only extra is a pre-trip walkaround of your vehicle. You pass the test and you do whatever you do after.

I mean, seriously, have you seen how taxi drivers drive? You think they had extra safety training above and beyond anyone else? LOL

BIC_BAWS 11-28-2018 02:16 PM

You know what this is?

Horgan is funded by the taxi industry, but he also has to make his constituents happy. Sure, Uber will be legal, but it'll be really difficult for Uber to succeed.

UnknownJinX 11-28-2018 02:26 PM

I mean, it depends on how it's done.

What if, say, I just want a way that can easily partner me up with someone going to the ferry occasionally? Won't be a frequent thing(especially with the VI drama nowadays), just something occasional that helps me cover some cost of the ferry ride.

I know most people do it as a full-time job for a living, but I wonder if anyone does this as, well, a rideshare, where you just take someone going to the same destination as you.

68style 11-28-2018 02:36 PM

As soon as they're paying you it's what Uber, etc are... lots of drivers in USA have regular jobs and only sign on for their drive home or when they're out at something and heading back... pick up routes heading the same direction... do exactly what you're saying.

DragonChi 11-28-2018 02:51 PM

Maybe a class 4 involves a background check, so crazy people can't be kidnapping strangers. After all, ride share users are going to be getting into cars with random people otherwise. It's not like harassment hasn't happened before with ride share users.

vitaminG 11-28-2018 03:22 PM

A class 4 is a commercial licence, you need it to drive a taxi or limo. I don't see why it shouldn't be a requirement for uber. Why even have the classification of you're not going to enforce it

freakshow 11-28-2018 03:49 PM

If they're doing what a taxi does, they should meet the same requirements. Reducing/removing those requirements would be best, but it would be unfair to have different requirements

mb_ 11-28-2018 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UnknownJinX (Post 8930318)
I mean, it depends on how it's done.

What if, say, I just want a way that can easily partner me up with someone going to the ferry occasionally? Won't be a frequent thing(especially with the VI drama nowadays), just something occasional that helps me cover some cost of the ferry ride.

I know most people do it as a full-time job for a living, but I wonder if anyone does this as, well, a rideshare, where you just take someone going to the same destination as you.

That sounds like car pooling to me lol

I voted for requiring Class 4 license to be an Uber driver. You are using your vehicle and your license commercially when you're an Uber driver. Like vitaminG said, what's the point of having a different classification if it's not enforced

Hondaracer 11-28-2018 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DragonChi (Post 8930322)
Maybe a class 4 involves a background check, so crazy people can't be kidnapping strangers. After all, ride share users are going to be getting into cars with random people otherwise. It's not like harassment hasn't happened before with ride share users.

If that was actually the case sure, but I doubt it

With Uber you know who’s picking you up, you know the car and the plate number. Have you ever looked at a plate/car number/drivers name in a cab?

yray 11-28-2018 03:59 PM

Class 4 rear ended me during excellent driving conditions with dry roads + daylight.

68style 11-28-2018 04:15 PM

Class 4 is not hard to get and does not involve a background check, go read the icbc website! I actually don’t even know why they bother with that classification it’s no different unless you’re using airbrakes.

nsx042003 11-28-2018 04:19 PM

class 4 tests are...essentially a joke. I just passed the knowledge test...i had a day off and walked in and did it lol

apparently the road test is the same as a class 5, except they have tougher points?

RRxtar 11-28-2018 04:20 PM

uber, at its roots, is a carpooling App.
BC government is treating it like a transportation industry.


All this is is a a way to de-incentivize people from participating. Every single rule the government is putting forward is a way to reduce the number of people wanting to be drivers. Exactly the opposite of what the service is intended for.

DragonChi 11-28-2018 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hondaracer (Post 8930332)
If that was actually the case sure, but I doubt it

With Uber you know who’s picking you up, you know the car and the plate number. Have you ever looked at a plate/car number/drivers name in a cab?

Yes

DragonChi 11-28-2018 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 68style (Post 8930340)
Class 4 is not hard to get and does not involve a background check, go read the icbc website! I actually don’t even know why they bother with that classification it’s no different unless you’re using airbrakes.

Then i'd agree that the class 4 requirement is pointless.

AstulzerRZD 11-28-2018 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BIC_BAWS (Post 8930317)
You know what this is?

Horgan is funded by the taxi industry, but he also has to make his constituents happy. Sure, Uber will be legal, but it'll be really difficult for Uber to succeed.

It's more... Surrey ridings tend to be a voting bloc.
If terms were too favorable for Uber, they'd likely lose the 8 Surrey seats in the next election.

The BC Liberals made this political mistake last election.
https://www.straight.com/news/909061...opularity-uber
https://theprovince.com/news/bc-poli...p-and-liberals

Keep in mind the NDP & Greens hold the balance of power by only one seat.

If the proportional representation referendum is successful, I would be very surprised if the NDP didn't relax some of the restrictions they've announced.

Politics aside, I can't see Uber or Lyft planning a launch into Vancouver if the government is going to control the number of rideshare vehicles allowed in each zone in specific times.

Manic! 11-28-2018 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DragonChi (Post 8930344)
Yes

What was the plate number of the lat taxi you took and what was the drivers name?

DragonChi 11-28-2018 06:13 PM

Last time I took a cab was over a year ago. I looked at the license and name when I got in.

If you had asked if I wrote down or took a picture of their license or cab number then I would have answered differently. But I do make a note of it when I get in the cab.

welfare 11-28-2018 06:27 PM

If most other places are operating fine without this type of requirement,then at face it seems redundant and at most would only serve to hinder the number of drivers, as mentioned

Manic! 11-28-2018 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DragonChi (Post 8930363)
Last time I took a cab was over a year ago. I looked at the license and name when I got in.

If you had asked if I wrote down or took a picture of their license or cab number then I would have answered differently. But I do make a note of it when I get in the cab.

I have the name, photo of driver, license plate number, make and model if car for ever trip I have taken with Uber. Also know how much I was charged, how long it took , where I was picked up and where I was dropped off.

DragonChi 11-28-2018 06:58 PM

Looks like they really have their shit together. :thumbs:

Manic! 11-28-2018 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DragonChi (Post 8930370)
Looks like they really have their shit together. :thumbs:

Best part us I can get a ride 3 in the morning without knowing the number for a cab my location or the local language.

DragonChi 11-28-2018 07:35 PM

In BC? :troll: :lol I actually have no idea, I've never used Uber.

iwantaskyline 11-28-2018 08:03 PM

So ICBC's website says its $40 to take the Class 4 road test. Whats the problem here? With the amount of shitty drivers in the lower mainland I think this is fine.

Anyone who transports the public is required to have a Class 4, Uber/Lyft should not be exempt.


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