Canadian politics thread

[bcrdukes]

You'll have a $300K salary though

[Infiniti]

Originally Posted by Badhobz

Well they were looking for peoples with two hands and ideally two feet. Bonus if you could speakahhhh da Engrish and ideally not call everyone a racial slur.

Bar is/was very very low. They just couldn’t get good people up there and it’s going to the same with this LNG terminal. If you wankers are willing to relocate, you’ll be making good money but likely your marriage will breakdown.

Meth addiction also necessary no?

[Badhobz]

Ive been up to prince rupert a few times for work and every time it's a depressing affair











LOok at this sad sack of shit they call a town. Even if i had double my salary, i wouldnt even know what to do with it as there is literally no shops worth a shit, no food worth a shit, and to get out of this dump, you need to hop on this noisy prop plan that takes almost 3 fucking hours to get to vancouver.

No wonder i got offered a few forest brides last time i was there.... dem ch...u... indigenous girls are insane. they'll try whatever they can to get out of this place.

[noclue]

I've stayed at the nicest hotel there (Crest inn) and not much to do there aside from walmart. Also Prince Rupert rains more than Vancouver. If you're into fishing and the outdoors it's probably great. However there is a decent population of vietnamese immigrants that came for the fishing industry so pho is available lol.

[68style]

That place is constantly wet with salt in the air, I leased a brand new 4Runner that was used up there and it came back 3 years later with rust stains running out of the door handles trim surrounds. Absolutely brutal.

[Badhobz]

All i ate was pho!!! and seafood... i shipped home at least 100lbs of halibut on a reefer can.

i stayed at the crest too. that place is ancient, but probably the only decent stay in town.

I got invited to some of these dudes houses and for 500-600k they are some run down shack that you could find in walley area in surrey. What a horrible place to live and raise a family.

[Hehe]

Prince Rupert is quite depressing really. I have been up there once to check out an investment opportunity. It's the end point of Prince Rupert-Jasper line and if anyone's a train fan, it's actually a trip I'd recommend. I flew to Prince George, took the train, and flew back.

It's a place where its natural formation gave all its advantages. It's the deepest natural port in Canada IIRC and jobs are never an issue although it's quite stagnant as there's only so much they can move. But definitely depressing as it rains so much.

Nevertheless, I don't recall the flight from PR to Vancouver being very long. Like an hour or 2?!

[pastarocket]

Originally Posted by Hehe

Prince Rupert is quite depressing really. I have been up there once to check out an investment opportunity. It's the end point of Prince Rupert-Jasper line and if anyone's a train fan, it's actually a trip I'd recommend. I flew to Prince George, took the train, and flew back.

It's a place where its natural formation gave all its advantages. It's the deepest natural port in Canada IIRC and jobs are never an issue although it's quite stagnant as there's only so much they can move. But definitely depressing as it rains so much.

Nevertheless, I don't recall the flight from PR to Vancouver being very long. Like an hour or 2?!

Here's a story about Prince Rupert. One of my distant relatives, from two generations before me, used to own a Chinese restaurant in Prince Rupert.

New Moon.

The New Moon got destroyed in a fire in 2015:

A major fire on Third Avenue at the New Moon Restaurant occurred after a large brush fire burned up near Port Edward. Two major fires in Port Edward and Prince Rupert kept the RCMP and the fire department busy one weekend. On Third Avenue West, the New Moon restaurant and the apartments above were severely damaged.

Fortunately, none of the tenants above the New Moon restaurant were injured or killed in the brush fire.

Anyways, my relative, the owner of the New Moon restaurant got a big insurance payout as her restaurant was severely damaged. Over 150 grand.

For reasons unknown, my relative thought that she was not responsible for any costs of demolishing the damaged restaurant. The restaurant was deemed a fire hazard after the brush fire damage.


The city of Prince Rupert sent a contractor to demolish her restaurant.

That relative gets really angry "It's my restaurant. The government cannot touch my business!!"

Oh yes, the city of Prince Rupert can do that hahaha.

She gets billed tens of thousands of dollars for the cost of demolishing the fire damaged restaurant.

[supafamous]

https://www.cbc.ca/news/indigenous/p...-mou-9.6995656

First Nations says no way to a pipeline.

I'm not sure what exactly to make of what Carney just did with the pipeline announcement as it doesn't seem at all feasible to actually build and there appear to a lot of conditions attached to it that are almost poison pills yet he speaks of it with some confidence and seems willing to piss off a lot of environmentalists including one of his own cabinet ministers.

What I've heard so far:
- Carney says it has to be done privately, this isn't going to be a gov't project.
- It must be co-owned by First Nations
- No insurance company would insure oil tankers in that region due to the risk of a catastrophic event.
- We still have plenty of existing pipeline capacity
- Alberta must increase their carbon tax as part of this.
- BC is fully against this.
- This was tried before by Harper in 2014 and it couldn't pass environmental review.

I don't see a financial plan that would actually make this pipeline a reality and I'm certain Carney knows that so is he really just playing the game of placating an idiot in Smith at the expense of pissing off a lot of the left?

[68style]

Maybe he's counting on Smith not being around after the election next year?

[westopher]

Most albertans hate smith but most albertans hate “the left” (centre or centre right) even more than her. I don’t see anyone else being able to win there unless she gets ousted from the party and they become less awful and stay in power.

[supafamous]

Originally Posted by 68style

Maybe he's counting on Smith not being around after the election next year?

Albertans are far too dumb to vote Smith out.

I, naturally, think this pipeline is a dumb project both for financial and environmental reasons and I have to hope a that Carney, a guy who has had pointed comments about the need to address climate change, is doing this so Smith can crash out on. His MOU largely washes his hands of the situation but sets such a difficult bar to meet that I can't possibly see Smith being smart enough to actually negotiate something that works for all parties.

[EvoFire]

Anyone think this might be just a show to placate Albertans that want this done? That's a lot of conditions to satisfy and it more than likely won't happen? For all we know, a lot of the Albertans are comparable to MAGAs in their ability to see past the headline.

[westopher]

I think that may be giving carney a little too much credit. He’s no doubt a smart guy, and there was no better choice out there, but he’s absolutely an “economy first” kind of leader and if he sees fiscal benefits he’s going to go for it by whatever means he has at his disposal. We have a conservative government right now realistically, without the overt bigotry that’s become a cornerstone of modern cons.

[unit]

i was listening to cbc this morning and these were some of the things they talked abt:

-carney knows it wont happen but at least it gets alberta on his side.. it will depend on BC and FN
-smith gets to look good since she's achieved this agreement that no other premier has ever achieved
-it separates PP even further from the UCP since he got them to agree to higher carbon pricing. not good for PP who relies on bashing carbon taxes.

so it does sound all strategic.. we all know the pipeline wont get built... FN is adamant that it will never ever happen.

[westopher]

What’s going on with trans mountain? How does this new pipeline do what that one doesn’t? Are they unable to move enough on that pipeline that they need another? I just don’t see what the benefit is? People know that they don’t personally own the oil when they get all excited about this right?
I have so many questions.

[yray]

triple the TMX

feds pay for a new second narrows to get rid of the bottle neck

[68style]

Originally Posted by EvoFire

Anyone think this might be just a show to placate Albertans that want this done? That's a lot of conditions to satisfy and it more than likely won't happen? For all we know, a lot of the Albertans are comparable to MAGAs in their ability to see past the headline.

This tracks, anyone I know here that’s on the fence with separatism was promoting this deal yesterday basically like “Fiinally!! Something for ‘Berta!! Still hate Carney tho fuckin libtard, go Danielle!”

[whitev70r]

Originally Posted by westopher

What’s going on with trans mountain? How does this new pipeline do what that one doesn’t? Are they unable to move enough on that pipeline that they need another? I just don’t see what the benefit is? People know that they don’t personally own the oil when they get all excited about this right?
I have so many questions.

I read that optimizing TMX, which BC would support, should be first consideration or project. Do so by adding pumps, and other means. Maybe common sense and obvious, but there is already a pipeline built, leads to Burrard Inlet, etc. TMX is at 800K barrels a day production, they can get that to 1.1M barrels a day with optimization. That number is already pretty staggering to me .. 800K PER DAY!

I also think that Carney is doing this to placate AB, I think he got a lot of positive vibes from Albertans for this, pissed BC'ers off but if nothing comes from it ie. no pipleing built, then no butthurt for us.

[Traum]

Originally Posted by supafamous

What I've heard so far:
- Carney says it has to be done privately, this isn't going to be a gov't project.
- It must be co-owned by First Nations
- No insurance company would insure oil tankers in that region due to the risk of a catastrophic event.
- We still have plenty of existing pipeline capacity
- Alberta must increase their carbon tax as part of this.
- BC is fully against this.
- This was tried before by Harper in 2014 and it couldn't pass environmental review.

An important piece that you've left out is -- Carney manoeuvred Smith into agreeing to do a massive carbon capture facility in Alberta as part of the conditions to build this northern pipeline.

Among the conditions that Carney and Smith have agreed to, I think Smith would be able to secure the private money -- at least on paper, and at least at first -- to partly fund the probject. Also, when you throw enough money around, I'm sure some -- but not all -- FN tribes would be onboard with the project as well.

On Carney's side, I also think he would revise -- but not completely eliminate -- the oil tanker ban enough so that in theory, the oil tanker ban is no longer the impediment that is blocking the project.

IMO the single biggest hurdle for Smith to overcome is the July 2026 deadline to get all the issues resolved. We are really only looking at a 6 - 8 months' window, so that is very little time to get so many things lined up.

With the way things are set to pan out right now, I also think Carney has deftly re-directed the responsibility to veto the project to BC and FN tribes. He and the federal gov are no longer the impediments that Alberta can blame. When you look at these manoeuvres on their own, it is a very smart CEO / PM type of thing to do. On the other hand, I also think this would piss off at least some BC voters. With Carney only having a minority gov in place, he'd typically only have 2 yrs or so before the next election is called. If he loses enough BC votes, he would probably not be able to win a majority gov.

[GLOW]

Originally Posted by Badhobz

Ive been up to prince rupert a few times for work and every time it's a depressing affair

i did not expect PG to have a high rise

[bcrdukes]

That's actually PR.

[Mikoyan]

Originally Posted by GLOW

i did not expect PG to have a high rise

That's why it looks like everyone stuck their cell antennas on it.

[Badhobz]

I think that’s the highest point in town. Sad.

[68style]

The tallest structure in Richmond is an aluminum smelter. Just saying.