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Old 07-05-2019, 10:47 AM   #1
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Repaint car suggestions

Looking to do a repaint on a older vehicle. I just want to strip off all old paint and respray.

Any recommendations on a shop or someone that paints on their own time outside of work type deal?

I know paint is super expensive but I don't need show quality or factory quality paint. I just want a decent, clean job.
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I've sprayed bombed cars before and you can get a really good finish if you take your time.
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Generally speaking one won’t strip old paint prior to painting. That’s when things get really expensive.
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I've sprayed bombed cars before and you can get a really good finish if you take your time.
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Generally speaking one won’t strip old paint prior to painting. That’s when things get really expensive.
I had a icbc repaint about 20 years ago and the shop sprayed over the old paint back then, isn't it not a good idea to spray over old paint?

Nonetheless any recommendations would be appreciated.
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I always wanted to try and do a plasticdip. Seems wayyy cheaper than an average paint job and it's peelable. Plus you can do it yourself for not much money.
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I always wanted to try and do a plasticdip. Seems wayyy cheaper than an average paint job and it's peelable. Plus you can do it yourself for not much money.
I thought about that but for me personally I prefer paint over a wrap/plastidip
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Well if you really wanna save money maybe take it down to the states and get a Maaco paint job. I think their cheapest paint job is like 300usd but you should probably get a higher option one. The paint job is better if you take off your own external components likes headlights , handles , mirrors, etc.

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Well if you really wanna save money maybe take it down to the states and get a Maaco paint job. I think their cheapest paint job is like 300usd but you should probably get a higher option one. The paint job is better if you take off your own external components likes headlights , handles , mirrors, etc.

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Don't want to deal with the hassle of getting the car painted in the u.s. - don't we have a maaco down here? Thought we did.

Anyhow, I was thinking $3-4k - is that doable these days?
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I know this may come off as a joke or a troll post, but a friend with an E39 540i took his car to Cheap Auto Body in Richmond to get a panel painted for $400. It wasn't the greatest, but after buffing the panel, it was half decent'ish. Mind you, he didn't care too much about the quality. If you are looking for, or expecting concours quality, look elsewhere.
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I know this may come off as a joke or a troll post, but a friend with an E39 540i took his car to Cheap Auto Body in Richmond to get a panel painted for $400. It wasn't the greatest, but after buffing the panel, it was half decent'ish. Mind you, he didn't care too much about the quality. If you are looking for, or expecting concours quality, look elsewhere.
Not at all, just want a nice clean finish, driver quality if that makes sense. I'll Check them out, quite the name they've got lol! They have no address on their site, do you know if it's an actual storefront shop?

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I had a icbc repaint about 20 years ago and the shop sprayed over the old paint back then, isn't it not a good idea to spray over old paint?

Nonetheless any recommendations would be appreciated.
Removing the old paint is the best process, but it is expensive. Sand blasting, manual sanding, chemical stripping. These are all labor intensive jobs.
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Removing the old paint is the best process, but it is expensive. Sand blasting, manual sanding, chemical stripping. These are all labor intensive jobs.
I'd really prefer it as well, who knows how many layers it's got. I feel like it'd be a waste just spraying over top, it's also SMC.
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I've watched enough youtube rebuilds where the process might be simple enough:
If you can DIY steps 1-4, you might be able to cut down on a lot of the cost.

1) Sand existing paint so there isn't any chipped paint with 800 grit sand paper which could compromise the new layer.
2) body filler on the dents and sand smooth again with 800 grit?
3) prime the paint and sand again (higher grit sand paper?)
4) wipe down with "tack cloth" and degrease
5) ready for adhesion promotor
6) Spray color
7) sand imperfections
8) Spray clear coat
9) sand smooth and sand away orange peel
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I've watched enough youtube rebuilds where the process might be simple enough:
If you can DIY steps 1-4, you might be able to cut down on a lot of the cost.

1) Sand existing paint so there isn't any chipped paint with 800 grit sand paper which could compromise the new layer.
2) body filler on the dents and sand smooth again with 800 grit?
3) prime the paint and sand again (higher grit sand paper?)
4) wipe down with "tack cloth" and degrease
5) ready for adhesion promotor
6) Spray color
7) sand imperfections
8) Spray clear coat
9) sand smooth and sand away orange peel
10) Buff & Polish
Not too sure on that, it sounds easy enough but it's probably not actually that easy. And dealing with SMC probably won't help.
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I've watched enough youtube rebuilds where the process might be simple enough:
If you can DIY steps 1-4, you might be able to cut down on a lot of the cost.

1) Sand existing paint so there isn't any chipped paint with 800 grit sand paper which could compromise the new layer.
2) body filler on the dents and sand smooth again with 800 grit?
3) prime the paint and sand again (higher grit sand paper?)
4) wipe down with "tack cloth" and degrease
5) ready for adhesion promotor
6) Spray color
7) sand imperfections
8) Spray clear coat
9) sand smooth and sand away orange peel
10) Buff & Polish
Been there done that. It's an insane amount of work to paint a whole car like that by yourself. Literally weeks of work.
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Spray can/home garage job isn't that bad. This car (which was white before) was done at home:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BxOsjewnMCL


While you have mentioned a distaste with wraps, maybe consider liquid wrap?


https://www.instagram.com/p/BzhgbLJAPkO/


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Both methods would require wet-sanding, compounding, and polishing
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TNot at all, just want a nice clean finish, driver quality if that makes sense. I'll Check them out, quite the name they've got lol! They have no address on their site, do you know if it's an actual storefront shop?
It's a legitimate shop with an actual store front. For whatever reason, he doesn't list the shop address on his website or on Google. The shop is somewhere near, or around River Rock Casino in Richmond as I recall picking my friend up after he dropped off his car to get it painted.

You can save yourself even more money if you do some of the prep work yourself before handing the car over to the guy.
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Spray can/home garage job isn't that bad. This car (which was white before) was done at home:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BxOsjewnMCL


While you have mentioned a distaste with wraps, maybe consider liquid wrap?


https://www.instagram.com/p/BzhgbLJAPkO/


https://www.instagram.com/p/Bxp8ZFZpHsu/


Both methods would require wet-sanding, compounding, and polishing
To be honest I doubt I'd even have time to tackle a home project. I don't mind paying to have it done but just want to keep the cost in-line.

I am not familiar with a liquid wrap but I guess I am old school as I just prefer paint.

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It's a legitimate shop with an actual store front. For whatever reason, he doesn't list the shop address on his website or on Google. The shop is somewhere near, or around River Rock Casino in Richmond as I recall picking my friend up after he dropped off his car to get it painted.

You can save yourself even more money if you do some of the prep work yourself before handing the car over to the guy.
Thanks man, between this and the other referral something should pan out.
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Unless it's a full on, restoration shop, no one's going to go right down to metal, seal, prime, and paint. OEM paint has excellent adhesion.
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-vancityguy- I want you to fully understand this Cheap Auto Body is not going to look amazing. It really is more or less a Maaco quality paint job. You might be able to polish some of it to make it look "okay" but it won't be like original paint, or as bad as a spray bomb DIY garage job.
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I still think Maaco is the way to go that or plasticdip / liquid wrap ( what's the difference ?)

Even if they need it for 3-5 days just get a buddy to drive you down there and drop off the car. Then go pick it up when done. It doesn't seem like much of a hassle especially when you can save thousands.
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First of all what type of car?
What’s your budget?
How much does liquid wrap cost?
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If your body is straight I would go with a vinyl wrap. Have seen a number of cars done on the island including a custom deuce coupe and they all looked really good. I think it will also cost you less than a good paint job.
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Unless it's a full on, restoration shop, no one's going to go right down to metal, seal, prime, and paint. OEM paint has excellent adhesion.
That's the thing, it isn't OEM paint. I am pretty sure the car was repainted prior to me owning it and while I've owned it, it's been repainted once. I am pretty sure it's got a couple layers now, the last paint job was just sprayed over top and they didn't do a great job..

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-vancityguy- I want you to fully understand this Cheap Auto Body is not going to look amazing. It really is more or less a Maaco quality paint job. You might be able to polish some of it to make it look "okay" but it won't be like original paint, or as bad as a spray bomb DIY garage job.
I am going to buy a DA polisher and see what I can do but other than that I am okay with a good(not great) paint job. I am guessing even Cheap Auto Body could do a better job if I were to pay more?

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I still think Maaco is the way to go that or plasticdip / liquid wrap ( what's the difference ?)

Even if they need it for 3-5 days just get a buddy to drive you down there and drop off the car. Then go pick it up when done. It doesn't seem like much of a hassle especially when you can save thousands.
I don't know enough about wraps, I would really have to look into it and I'd prefer not to go the Maaco route(if possible)

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First of all what type of car?
What’s your budget?
How much does liquid wrap cost?
It is a Corvette. I am thinking $3-4k.

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If your body is straight I would go with a vinyl wrap. Have seen a number of cars done on the island including a custom deuce coupe and they all looked really good. I think it will also cost you less than a good paint job.
The body is pretty straight, no body damage or anything.
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