Climate Change - Another Perspective |
So confusing. Calm demeanour. Historic charts, graphs and data Or... |
Global warming is a "hot" topic. In my day, it was the ozone layer............. Is man responsible for this shit? Maybe, but I'm not 100% convinced. We are definitely polluting the planet. This, I think, is more important. The cleanliness of the air we breathe, the cleanliness of the water, throwing junk all over the place, etc. Students all over the world went on some protest/strike a week or so ago. This creepier than hell, girl goes on stage saying, "How Dare You!" Uh............ okay, all you kids out there. You have no fucking idea how hypocritical you are. I've volunteered working with youth for decades. As a PAC member, I got to travel with groups to many a schools. What did I see? Garbage all over the playing fields. Drink and water bottles in garbage cans, instead of recycling bins that are right next to the garbage can. Chip bags, chocolate and candy wrappers strewn all over the school property. Most can be seen inches away from the many garbage and recyclable bins that are available. Instead of this, "How dare you," shit. How dare you kids ruin it for older people like me? I put all garbage into garbage bins. I recycle and reuse, all the time. I even pick up after everybody else......... mainly shit thrown out by young people. Instead of protesting and striking, why don't you spend the day cleaning up your backyards and schools? I want to take a walk in the park without seeing garbage in the trees and shrubs. I want to go canoeing and not see waste floating in the rivers and lakes. I can go on and on....... Stop being hypocrites. Instead of looking for your 15 minutes of fame, do something productive. Change your ways, because it's your world in the coming years. The garbage and polluting of our planet is due to the change in the way we mass produce and package consumables. I don't think that can really change, but at least we can try to keep that shit from the landfills and oceans. Back at you, "HOW DARE YOU!!" /rant and sermon |
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i don't understand......... even if we are not the root cause of the problem, what harm are we doing by not trying to change our ways. |
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What happens when that isn't enough? When it doesn't make any difference whatsoever? What will be the consensus then? We need to do more? To what end? |
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You're missing the point. What if the "problem" isn't, or is only minimally, due to human activity? How do you "fix" a naturally occurring change in climate? The green new deal is estimated to cost between 50 and 100 trillion dollars. That's just one country. That money could sure go a long way in dealing with the outcome rather than attempting (futilly) to change it. I'm not saying one way or the other. But extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Evidence that I haven't seen |
Paying higher taxes on literally everything in the western world due to carbon emissions will most certainly teach the most extreme polluters of the world it’s wrong! |
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money in money out, if money is changing hands for the good, its good for the economy. Innovation is good for everyone. I hope one day mass pollution will be looked at as bad as slavery is now. |
In the short term polluting less helps us locally, but long term unless China & India get on board what we do here will only help so much. What I don't like is money getting dumped into anything supposedly green, as a good chunk are scams that don't actually do anything. That takes money any attention away from things that actually help. |
1 Attachment(s) When I saw Greta give a stare down of Dotard, that picture showed the great divide between different generations of people in terms of their view of climate change. |
Lessening our impact on the environment through things like reducing our dependence on non-renewables is a good thing. But I don't believe in kneecapping our economy to do it if the other biggest polluters don't change is helpful at all. All we'd be doing is putting our money in their pockets by artificially making our cost of living and doing business higher. This video is interesting, because I don't buy into the hysteria that the climate change extremists are putting forward. We get an unexpected snowfall or something and all of a sudden it's like "THE WORLD IS ENDING!!!!" |
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Whether it's happening or not isn't a question anymore. Scientific consensus says yes. Did we cause it? More than likely. But the thing is, nobody is 100% sure what nature wants. What if it likes it warmer but we're making efforts to keep it cool... I do my part to keep things clean but if things get warm, I'm not going to stress about it. We're just another species on the planet and since life began on this planet, it's done one of three things when faced with a changing environment or a new predator... Adapt, evolve or go extinct. There were times when most of the species were wiped out due to rapid climate change but the species that survived continued to adapt and evolve into what you see today. I'm not worried about the planet. |
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Who the fuck wants to adapt to a world that looks like a Mad Max wasteland? |
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Are there peer reviewed papers which show a direct causal link between humans and climate change? Last time I looked there wasn't, and all we had was correlation Climate changes, it used to be a lot hotter than it is now (geologic temperature record) we're in an interglacial period, it's supposed to warm You wanna make changes that will make us cleaner and more responsible as a species? great! Just don't kill my bank account because you've found a way to profit from hysteria |
People worrying about their bank accounts is literally going to ruin the future of the human (and many other) species. It blows my mind |
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