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What nonsense are you talking about? I am just truly floored how many people defend Fox News.
I'm not defending Fox news. I'm just saying that they admit that they are biased towards the right.
I can't stand watching CNN with their constant panels on everything. However I know where my sources stand and look for the truth somewhere in the middle.
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Cenotaph vandal suspect said he did it to protest firing of Don Cherry
The 33-year-old man who allegedly sprayed graffiti on the cenotaph at Old City Hall said in a Facebook post he did it to protest the firing of Don Cherry.
On Tuesday morning, the words "ye broke faith" and “with us” were seen spray-painted onto two sides of the monument located in downtown Toronto at Queen and Bay streets. The words appear to reference the line, “If ye break faith with us who die,” from John McCrae’s poem “In Flanders Fields.”
Officers with the Toronto Police Service confirmed they received a call regarding the vandalism at 7 a.m. on Tuesday. City officials were later seen power washing the cenotaph, removing the paint, in the noon hour that same day.
On Friday, police said they charged Thomas Christian Zaugg with two counts of mischief.
cherry supporters are real class acts.
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I'm not defending Fox news. I'm just saying that they admit that they are biased towards the right.
I can't stand watching CNN with their constant panels on everything. However I know where my sources stand and look for the truth somewhere in the middle.
At least CNN brings in a panel from both sides....heck they even use to bring in Ken Cuccinelli on the panel.
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This guy's just a piece of shit. Full stop. Don Cherry would NEVER condone someone vandalizing a cenotaph for any reason. This loser was looking for a reason to lash out; he's not so upset over someone being fired to stoop to vandalism out of the blue.
I'm not defending Fox news. I'm just saying that they admit that they are biased towards the right.
I can't stand watching CNN with their constant panels on everything. However I know where my sources stand and look for the truth somewhere in the middle.
fox news is definitely way cozier with the president than cnn has ever been with any democratic president, there's no doubt about that. you aren't defending fox because their bias is literally indefensible.
At least CNN brings in a panel from both sides....heck they even use to bring in Ken Cuccinelli on the panel.
Panel discussions should also last more than an hour at a time, the panel discussions held on CNN only allow each participant to get one statement out before they move on to the next topic. It needs to be a real long form discussion to be productive.
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I just skim through this thread but one can be a patriot and a bigot at the same time. It's not mutually exclusive. I believe he was canned for being a bigot, which is appropriate.
The backlash just shows you the new generation doesn't tolerate that kind of shit, which is a good thing. You can honor the fallen without denouncing marginalized groups of people. There are immigrants who have children who served or are serving the Canadian armed forces. Isn't that patriotic? This old fart is simply misinformed. Buying a paper poppy conveniently at the checkout and pin it on your clothing article is not patriotic.
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I'm lumping all cherry supporters into one group. You have a problem with that.
What if someone doesn't agree with Cherry's political finger wagging, but also doesn't believe/can't confirm that what he said was intended to be racist and therefore doesn't believe he should have been fired?
Is that a supporter?
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Don Cherry has been part and parcel of influencing Anglo whites to sign up and die for a one world government with isreal as its capital... in his eyes, the least immigrants can do (along with their 9-5 rat race contribution to help build the empire) is respect the ones that sacrifice themselves. Basically nod and gloss over the realities of what a war mongering nation we are.
What if someone doesn't agree with Cherry's political finger wagging, but also doesn't believe/can't confirm that what he said was intended to be racist and therefore doesn't believe he should have been fired?
Is that a supporter?
I don't know the difference between a K&N and an AC Delco oil filter. You would be the expert on that. When tens of thousands of people across Canada say his commits are racist you might want to listen because I don't think you are an expert on racism.
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I don't know the difference between a K&N and an AC Delco oil filter. You would be the expert on that. When tens of thousands of people across Canada say his commits are racist you might want to listen because I don't think you are an expert on racism.
And there are probably just as many who don't believe what he said was racist.
You didn't answer the question.
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^ Well... not that I care whether Cherry was fired or not tbh, but besides this point........ how many of those tens of thousands of people who said his comments are racist are experts on racism?
And how many of them are hyprocrites as in they have done or said racist things themselves?
So many people live in glass houses and like to throw stones.
And there are probably just as many who don't believe what he said was racist.
You didn't answer the question.
and how many of those that stand with cherry have faced racism? Imagine someone who has never done an oil change tell you how to do an oil change.
You also only had like 12 people protest in front of sportsnet headquarters. That should tell you something about how many people believe cherry is not racist.
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^ Well... not that I care whether Cherry was fired or not tbh, but besides this point........ how many of those tens of thousands of people who said his comments are racist are experts on racism?
And how many of them are hyprocrites as in they have done or said racist things themselves?
So many people live in glass houses and like to throw stones.
A lot of them have experienced racism first hand.
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and how many of those that stand with cherry have faced racism? Imagine someone who has never done an oil change tell you how to do an oil change.
You're creating false equivalencies.
What he said is a matter of interpretation.
Not all white people believe it wasn't racist and not all minorities believe it was.
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You also only had like 12 people protest in front of sportsnet headquarters. That should tell you something about how many people believe cherry is not racist.
That's your measure?
#IstandWithDonCherry and #BoycottRogers trended 1 and 2 on Twitter.
Clearly there's enough people who disagree to make it a divisive matter.
And again, you haven't answered my question.
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You're creating false equivalencies.
What he said is a matter of interpretation.
Not all white people believe it wasn't racist and not all minorities believe it was.
That's your measure?
#IstandWithDonCherry and #BoycottRogers trended 1 and 2 on Twitter.
Clearly there's enough people who disagree to make it a divisive matter.
And again, you haven't answered my question.
12 people showed up to protest. 500k showed up in Montreal for the climate protest. Shows you Candians think are really important.
Things on line can easily be manipulated. Google worlds best toilet paper and click images.
I guess you think Hitler matter of interpretation. Because some people think he was a great man.
Here is post from an actual expert who has studied racism in hockey.
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If we’ve learned anything from Donald Trump it’s that there are plenty of ways to make racist remarks without explicitly talking about race. Let’s start with the facts: Cherry was talking about “you people” who come to “our” country and referenced people from Mississauga and downtown Toronto. “If you take all of those things together, we are talking about immigrants. And not white immigrants,” says Courtney Szto, a kinesiology prof at Queen’s university whose doctoral dissertation is on racism in hockey culture. Szto notes that “immigrant” itself has racial implications depending on location and era. Had Cherry’s remarks been made in 1850, his argument that he could have been talking about Irish Immigrants (which he made during an interview with Global News) might hold water. Today though, what he says is a pretty good example of the kind of “coded language that is used to hold up white supremacy all over the world,” Szto says.
Speaking of language, Cherry kind of killed his own argument during that same Global News interview, saying that he doesn’t regret anything, but (big but here) if he had to do it over, he would have replaced “you people” with the word “everyone.” Which, is kind of like Cruella de Vil saying next time she’d make the coat without killing all those puppies.
Don't believe me believe an expert in the field.
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12 people showed up to protest. 500k showed up in Montreal for the climate protest. Shows you Candians think are really important.
Things on line can easily be manipulated. Google worlds best toilet paper and click images.
I guess you think Hitler matter of interpretation. Because some people think he was a great man.
Here is post from an actual expert who has studied racism in hockey.
Don't believe me believe an expert in the field.
I don't need an expert in the field to interpret his words for me. I waited for him to do that. Which he did. I guess it just wasn't The interpretation some wanted to hear. They'd already done it for him.
Thanks for the discussion. I'll forget about you answering my original question now.
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