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Old 02-18-2020, 07:34 AM   #26
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There has been some good replies in here explaining how you can deal with the situation without committing fraud and opening yourself up to more problems down the road.

Submit what you have and explain the rest is coming or ask for an extension.

That or commit fraud and hope you don't get caught, to each their own.
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go commit fraud and then tell us about it plz.
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go commit fraud and then tell us about it plz.
Hypothetical question, but how would OP tell us about it if he's in jail? Or do we wait until he is released from jail to tell us about it?
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^all the best and yet to be caught criminals discuss their crimes online. Im sure this will work out.
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Is it fraud if I forge.... should've just stopped right there dude
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Did OP go to jail?
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Did OP go to jail?
Then he'd still have to pay the vacancy tax
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Did he jailed?
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Hypothetical question, but how would OP tell us about it if he's in jail? Or do we wait until he is released from jail to tell us about it?
You get one phone call don't you?
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Maybe he can call Badhobz' lawyer. Somebody has to call him... the guy has been waiting for a phone call for months.
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Ask for an extension. Don't ever forge documents
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Its probably a bad idea to engage in activities that involve the verb "forge".
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To be honest, it might not be a bad idea. If all information on the previous document is true, then it shouldn't be a problem.

The word forge is "make". Make another copy?
It's like faxing a document. Will you consider that forge?

I scan contracts all the time and if I see the signature and everything else is unedited. It's good enough for me.
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To be honest, it might not be a bad idea. If all information on the previous document is true, then it shouldn't be a problem.

The word forge is "make". Make another copy?
It's like faxing a document. Will you consider that forge?

I scan contracts all the time and if I see the signature and everything else is unedited. It's good enough for me.
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8 (1)A requirement under law that a person provide an original record is satisfied by the provision of the record in electronic form if

(a)there exists a reliable assurance as to the integrity of the record in electronic form, and

(b)the record in electronic form is accessible by the person to whom it is provided and is capable of being retained by that person in a manner usable for subsequent reference.

(2)A requirement under law that a person retain an original record is satisfied by the retention of the record in electronic form if there exists a reliable assurance as to the integrity of the record.

(3)For the purposes of subsections (1) and (2),

(a)the criterion for assessing integrity is whether the record has remained complete and unaltered, apart from the introduction of changes that arise in the normal course of communication, storage and display, and

(b)the standard of reliability required must be assessed in view of the purpose for which the record was created and other relevant circumstances.

Scanning is good so long as it's the original and the scanned document hasn't been created on your own as a duplicate. Unless I'm reading it wrong.


Copying and pasting a company logo on a document you're making should be a red flag to just stop.
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Copying and pasting a company logo on a document you're making should be a red flag to just stop.
This is definitely wrong if you are copying and pasting a company's logo.

If op just recreates everything from the original document without tempering any information. It may work.
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This is definitely wrong if you are copying and pasting a company's logo.

If op just recreates everything from the original document without tempering any information. It may work.
How are you "recreating everything from the original document" without copying and pasting a the company's logo?
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if they suspect fraud, then pull the real records, wouldnt it show the exact same thing?

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wrongful or criminal deception intended to result in financial or personal gain.

I don't think he's committing wrongful or criminal deception.

like he cant commit fraud. they have to prove that the thing he reproduced was not accurate to the information on the actual original document.

and when they get the original document, it's going to say the exact same thing he submitted.

they can't ever get him for fraud.

that being said, they might try to ding u for fraud, and you'll have to go through the process and waste a lot of time and money.

u should probably ask for an extension first as that has least risk.

but to be honest, the risk is probably so low it doesnt matter. lol.
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I don't think he's committing wrongful or criminal deception.

like he cant commit fraud. they have to prove that the thing he reproduced was not accurate to the information on the actual original document.

and when they get the original document, it's going to say the exact same thing he submitted.

they can't ever get him for fraud.

that being said, they might try to ding u for fraud, and you'll have to go through the process and waste a lot of time and money.

u should probably ask for an extension first as that has least risk.

but to be honest, the risk is probably so low it doesnt matter. lol.
Isn't this for the empty home owners tax? Even though he did live there but can't prove it would be a huge financial gain on his end just to not have to pay the tax. Asking if forging a Telus and MSP invoice would be a dead give away to stop what you're doing.


May be a low risk you're willing to accept but I'm sure he's got a lot more on the line lol

Criminal Code (R.S.C., 1985, c. C-46)

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366 (1) Every one commits forgery who makes a false document, knowing it to be false, with intent

(a) that it should in any way be used or acted on as genuine, to the prejudice of any one whether within Canada or not; or

(b) that a person should be induced, by the belief that it is genuine, to do or to refrain from doing anything, whether within Canada or not




Would the last statement be true if this is good faith and if he openly tells them that this it's not the original which he no longer has, but this is the best that can be given?



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(5) No person commits forgery by reason only that the person, in good faith, makes a false document at the request of a police force, the Canadian Forces or a department or agency of the federal government or of a provincial government.
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