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twitchyzero 11-20-2020 08:25 PM

brz v. miata v. s2000
 

hope they rematch with the 400z and gen 2 brz

AstulzerRZD 11-21-2020 12:09 AM

I'm planning to buy an ND2 soon, but the idea of an S2000 keep nagging at me from the back of my mind.

shiesty 11-21-2020 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by AstulzerRZD (Post 9007831)
I'm planning to buy an ND2 soon, but the idea of an S2000 keep nagging at me from the back of my mind.

Buy both

twitchyzero 11-21-2020 08:07 AM

buy all 3

you didn’t mind the mustang gt vert in November?

AstulzerRZD 11-21-2020 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by twitchyzero (Post 9007840)
buy all 3

you didn’t mind the mustang gt vert in November?

I have very mixed feelings about the Stang. It's like one of those friends you meet who are easy to get along with but you know you won't become 'good friends' with them.

It's in its flow state when it's a daily driver or on the highway; very easy to live with. Standard driving position, tons of torque, pretty great interior and cargo space, etc. In November, the soft top is loud in the rain for a couple minutes till it absorbs some water and becomes pretty quiet.

What the Mustang fails to do well is be a good partner when you're driving it harder. The two ends of the car don't feel like they're talking to each other, the steering's numb, the transmissions suck, and the rear end behaviour is incredible unpredictable.

68style 11-21-2020 03:11 PM

I think you meant to say FUN instead of unpredictable :D

I do like your little saying though, you could be a guy who appears in a rap video with nerd glasses on for a short interlude at pool-side by all the booty shaking saying "This rear end behaviour is incredibly unpredictable"... go viral... win!

AstulzerRZD 11-21-2020 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by 68style (Post 9007872)
I think you meant to say FUN instead of unpredictable :D

I do like your little saying though, you could be a guy who appears in a rap video with nerd glasses on for a short interlude at pool-side by all the booty shaking saying "This rear end behaviour is incredibly unpredictable"... go viral... win!

HAHAHA first video that came to mind (Get Your Booty to the Poll Official PSA):

For real tho, the Charger was hella fun to slide around - super predictable and pretty easy to control.

twitchyzero 11-21-2020 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by AstulzerRZD (Post 9007866)

What the Mustang fails to do well is be a good partner when you're driving it harder. The two ends of the car don't feel like they're talking to each other, the steering's numb, the transmissions suck, and the rear end behaviour is incredible unpredictable.

you might get the opposite experience with the s2k though, have to push it to have fun
miata will strike a good balance given you're okay with a cabin that 'fits' around you and a trunk much smaller than the mustang

AstulzerRZD 11-23-2020 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by twitchyzero (Post 9007903)
you might get the opposite experience with the s2k though, have to push it to have fun
miata will strike a good balance given you're okay with a cabin that 'fits' around you and a trunk much smaller than the mustang

I certainly don't mind the smaller cabin - test drove an ND2 and thought that was pretty fun no matter what I was up to on the road.

I haven't driven an S2k yet, but I do worry that it'll be the better car for the 10% of hard driving that I do. The prospect of relatively low ownership cost is appealing though.

As someone who owns both, how do you feel about them?

twitchyzero 11-23-2020 02:39 PM

you switch cars a lot right?

i'd go nd like the video says out of accessibility of actually able to find one

but if it's long term and you're a patient honda guy wait for a clean 06+ and tune for lower vtec (not sure if there are long term implications)...should you sell you wont lose a penny on the s2ks

parts are a toss up really: ND will be cheaper on consumables less selection but not bad, oem s2000 parts can be discontinued $$$ but aftermarket can still be reasonable, and the selection is better

Jmac 11-23-2020 03:10 PM

Honda had plans to re-start production of many OEM parts for the S2000 in June. I wonder if that actually happened with COVID.

68style 11-23-2020 03:39 PM

They’re doing a refresh program for NSX owners too, but the prices are LOL level

AstulzerRZD 11-23-2020 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by twitchyzero (Post 9008076)
you switch cars a lot right?

i'd go nd like the video says out of accessibility of actually able to find one

but if it's long term and you're a patient honda guy wait for a clean 06+ and tune for lower vtec (not sure if there are long term implications)...should you sell you wont lose a penny on the s2ks

parts are a toss up really: ND will be cheaper on consumables less selection but not bad, oem s2000 parts can be discontinued $$$ but aftermarket can still be reasonable, and the selection is better

Mmm all good points.

Any thoughts on 05 vs 06 S2000? I'm curious about you specifying 06+ since 05+ are AP2.

I'll give myself some time in the spring to hunt for an S2k, having the ND2 around as a backup is a pretty great backup.

I used switch cars a fair bit since they used to be paid for by work, but my roadster purchase will likely be for a longer term keeps.

Ideally, I'd just buy both...

SumAznGuy 11-23-2020 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by AstulzerRZD (Post 9008087)
Any thoughts on 05 vs 06 S2000? I'm curious about you specifying 06+ since 05+ are AP2.
.

04/05 are drive by cable, no traction control and slightly different ecu.
06-09 are drive by wife, have VSA, and the ecu can be flashed.

https://www.hondata.com/reflash-s2000

Those are the biggest performance differences that I remember.

A few interior differences too.

twitchyzero 11-23-2020 05:12 PM

^ what he said

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Originally Posted by Jmac (Post 9008079)
Honda had plans to re-start production of many OEM parts for the S2000 in June. I wonder if that actually happened with COVID.

postponed due to covid

SumAznGuy 11-23-2020 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by twitchyzero (Post 9008104)
^ what he said

Just noticed I said drive by wife on the 06-09 S2000. LOL


Drive by wire.

!Aznboi128 11-23-2020 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SumAznGuy (Post 9008102)
04/05 are drive by cable, no traction control and slightly different ecu.
06-09 are drive by wife, have VSA, and the ecu can be flashed.

https://www.hondata.com/reflash-s2000

Those are the biggest performance differences that I remember.

A few interior differences too.

Here's the rest

Source - https://www.s2ki.com/forums/uk-irela...rences-755380/

Quote:

Spoiler!


G0rilla 11-23-2020 11:59 PM

Did this just become the official S2k thread?

Vulgate 12-02-2020 11:22 AM

Apparently it is coming back in 2024...with Type-R engine. I hope it is true

https://www.motor1.com/news/457956/h...rn-rumor-2024/

yray 12-02-2020 01:27 PM

like the next gen T4R

a lie and waste of time

twitchyzero 08-15-2021 04:51 PM


twitchyzero 09-23-2021 09:32 PM


AzNightmare 09-26-2021 08:42 PM

wow...
that power in the dyno makes it look like they severely underrated the specs.
On paper, the GR86 specs only seem to be a bit more than the prev gen 86.
But on the dyno, it's 209whp/175wtq vs. 162whp/130wtq

twitchyzero 01-28-2022 08:14 PM


G0rilla 02-03-2022 08:33 AM

2008 Yellow CR - $71K as of now, 4 days left

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...a-s2000-cr-47/


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