F150 Lightning - 42k, 550hp, 800lbft, 300 mile range, 10k lbs tow capacity
 

Holy shit they are going to sell so many of these.
Here are the greatest hits:

• Starting price 42k (~5k cheaper than equivalent V6 spec + 7.5k EV credit in US)
• 230 mile standard range, 300 mile long range
• Range estimator accounts for payload, trailer weight, grade, etc.
• Hands free 'Bluecruise' adaptive cruise on 100k miles of mapped highways

• 14.1 cu ft front trunk
• Full size spare in the back
• 9.6kw generator can provide up to 3 days of power for a house

• 563 hp and 775lb-ft of torque
• 0-60 somewhere between 4 seconds flat and 4.3 seconds (PR people arguing in the background of Biden's video)

Reservations might be up to 800k already (friend made a reso and was given #10835557)

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Glad Ford came out with this before Tesla. Hope it wins the market for e pickup trucks.

Too bad they couldn't exchange some of that power for more mileage. Otherwise, this is a winner.

motorized shifter :badpokerface:

Cool but a lot of pickup buyers are in it for "lifestyle".How is that range going to work if you're towing a trailer good luck getting up the coq. Then if you're camping better hope there's a charger somewhere. for trades you better have a charger wherever you park it.

Seems like pickups would have been a great market for a hybrid but there's only the f150 hybrid which just came out and that's the only full hybrid pickup out there.

Really hoping Toyota gets a new plug in hybrid tundra.60-100km electric range would mean minimal fuel costs and the ability to go anywhere and not have to worry

How many of the trucks that you see on the road are actually carrying anything other than 1 person? This'll be fine for the vast majority of truck owners.

I'm curious how crash testing with a frunk works, since they have no way to know what you'll put up there.

Sort of want a truck now, murica can't vi:accepted:

What you described falls perfectly under a diesel category. 95% of f150’s are city or town based vehicles

Glad they kept the styling pretty close to a stock F150. Would be nice if companies started doing midsize EV trucks so it would fit in my garage and I could actually charge it lol

I wonder if the 7.5k credit will be gone instantly with all the reservation. Even without the credit, it's still a good buy

20k reserved so far

why's it starting at $68k? do we not get the 40k usd base trim?

How do you know those people don't have a trailer or some other recreational hobby at home that would necessitate a truck?

I agree that there are people out there who buy trucks simply for status and never put anything in the bed or tow anything, but I don't think that's the "vast majority"

From CBC

"In Canada, the base model will start at $58,000. That's about $10,000 more than what it would cost to simply convert the cheapest U.S. model into Canadian dollars"

I wonder where the hell that extra $10k is coming from. Even with incentives, that still pins it above exchange.

Even if you're only commuting you still want to know it has the capability. I'm sure all these TRD Tacomas and Rubicon Wranglers plan on overlanding one day...

Well I mean that's just it. Obviously I don't haul our trailer daily, but when we need to haul it we need that capability ready and available.

Why do people care so much about what others do or don't do with their own shit?

Looks way nicer than the cyber truck

Aside from hardly ever seeing a truck with anything behind it on the road, when you drive through residential areas very few houses have a large camper or a boat. All the trucks at apartment complexes are obviously out as well. Out of all the people I know with trucks, one has a trailer. It's no different from all the Wranglers that never go offroad, all the supercars that never see track days, etc.

I assume the generator that can power a house can be used to charge the batteries too. So tradies are fine, camping is fine, and the Coq you're going to be recharging like crazy on all those downhill sections with a trailer behind you so you're probably fine there too. Worst case fast charging seems to be coming along well these days.

I'm friends with a Ford powertrain engineer - apparently the EV platform under this is already 'obsolete'.

Mach E and E-Transit used LG Chem, F-150 Lightning use SK batteries, and electrified Edge/Nautilus are going to use another supplier.

I fully expect to see Ford building their own cells in a few years.

Lol, if you would even make it to the coq before needing to recharge.

I've posted these before, they're relevant to towing with any EV. Barring some breakthrough new battery capacity technology they just do not have the energy density to compete:

This Model X example got only 1/3 of it's range pulling 2000lbs, and that was the long range version:


And here they pull a 5000lb trailer up a mountain burning through 50% range in just 8 miles of 6% grade.

On the way down, regeneration only got them 4% range back.


So yeah, I guess if you all your towing is within the lower mainland you'd be fine with an electric F150... Further than that, they're still way too impractical.

I guess we live in very different neighbourhoods, every second house in my neighbourhood does have a recreational vehicle of some sort.

It’s no different than why it will be a generation or more before things like excavators, dump trucks etc. Will be EV if ever

The torque and power required is just too much. Big 300+ excavators are just screaming when you’re really into the mess digging hard pan, moving rocks etc. There’s no way in hell you could create a machine that made any sort of sense or had any long term efficacy. Time is money in the construction industry and you can’t be swapping batteries or taking down time to charge.

Same goes for these electric semis etc. The fuel savings are being negated by the downtime you lose in charging

Can you elaborate on what's outdated about them? I understand testing takes time and by the time most vehicles are for sale for the first year, they are already outdated in terms the latest tech available.

But being available and being tested able to be manufactured en mass is a different thing.

I wonder if it would make more sense to just plug in a cable from the powerline instead for semi-stationary equipment.

I agree with you the power delivery over time for heavy equipment just doesn't make any sense with batteries.

I know lots of people who keep their trailer or boat stored at a yard during the months they don't use it because they don't want it taking up space at their house, of they have nowhere to keep it at their townhouse etc.

Owning a truck doesn't necessarily mean using it as one year round.

Lol there always seems to be this argument as to why own a truck here

Isn’t the same argument applicable to an SUV etc. ? Why do you need an SUV with 4x4 and ground clearance to pick up the kids from school, you should be in a mini van if the only rationale for any vehicle is it’s day to day functions