We got a gas delivery this morning. We were out of regular gas for less than 6 hours. If people did not hoard we would have been fine.

Every gas station I have driven past in the city today, lineups or out of gas.

Am I the only one that thinks that if we had not announced the restrictions AND allowed prices to just naturally rise due to expected shortages we would have seen people complain about high gas prices and price gouging, but maybe an actual reduced demand temporarily.

Maybe it's a way to create revenue for taxes from the pumps so they can have fixed all the roads in the region it was affected by the floods? Bit of a stretch but who knows...

impressive

Lol, sounds like something Hondaracer would say…

Sold my 5.4L v8 150 in the summer and got a civic instead. Price can jump to $2/L and I'd probably still be laughing at how much I'm saving in comparison.

From reddit: Cars on a residential street in burnaby had their tanks siphoned by thieves

https://www.burnabynow.com/local-new...ctions-4781687

smh

^ just hope the gas thieves did the honourable thing and siphoned only 30L.

No it didn't, price actually went down today.
It's more readily available for thieves to steal. every cars in the city has full tank of gas now lol

It's really a great time to start thinking going EV. The gas situation is pretty bad. My in-law just gave up after hitting stations after stations of either out of gas or a huge line-up. He dropped off his X5 today so that he could take my Model 3 that he's going to charge with a 110V at his place. :fuckthatshit:

The so-called "convenience" of ICE cars relies heavily on a very fragile logistic system. When shits happen, that convenience ceases to exist or price goes through the roof. EV, otoh, depends on electricity that's pretty much the most important infrastructure. We could go days without water/gas, but during any major disaster, electricity is the first thing to be restored as many things in our life, as well as the equipment needed for the repairs, depend on power. Heck... even gas station can't operate when the power goes out.

Anything that see's a 40% to 50% increase overnight is going to have problems including the electrical grid. Last time there was a major power outage some people in Nanaimo were out of power for more than 7 days.

LOL i'm sure that's why all the emergency services rely on EV

did you already forget about the texas winter storm this year

as long as infrastructure is maintained, sure. once the grid goes, i think diesel will age better than a battery in the zombie apocalypse. but then again you can put your home on a backup genset...running on diesel Kappa :troll:

@twitchy funny you should say that, CoV just released the 1st pilot model of an EV fire truck

Any gas station in the lower mainland that has a mechanical backup pump in case of a power outage? :lawl:

When power is out, it doesn't matter if it's EV or ICE car. None of them will get refueled. What I'm suggesting is that electricity is much less affected by market fluctuation and events. BCHydro adjust the price every what? 5yrs? And it requires going through some bat shit political fight whenever it's changed. And any BCHydro outage, including those that happened this time during flood... except those extreme cases where water prevents the repair, all system has been brought back within 48hr with most within the first 8hrs.

Fuel is more easily transported as a storage form... I give you that. But a normal family is not going to store thousands of liters of diesel at home unless they are running some generator system.

I used to feel that EVs can never replace ICE... until a trip in 2019 when I saw an EV fast charger installed by BCHydro at Britton Creek rest area and Manning Park Resort. For those who aren't aware, these are between Hope-Merritt and Hope-Princeton, where you'd see "Check your fuel, next service station 120km" on each side. Or in other words, the middle of fucking nowhere.

Wherever you can bring a powerline is wherever you can have an EV charger. Gas station... not so much considering all the environmental study one need to go through to make sure a tank can be installed assuming the zoning allows a station in the first place.

So, what I'm trying to say is... this event should serve as a wakeup call. I know for many of my F&F, it did the trick. A buddy of mine went from having a Porsche Cayenne on order (for delivery next summer) to a Tesla Model X just yesterday. ICE is no more convenient than EV for 95% of the time. And EV is going to get more and more convenient while ICE is going the other way around in the next decade. Imagine that we are having 1.6x/litre in the fucking winter... what's the gas going to be for next summer?

When is the last time power went out in all of the lower mainland? We don't have one but you could have a back up generator.

fuel rationing has pushed some to EV, sure i can believe it

to suggest it's superior than petro/diesel when apocalypse arrives, maybe in a generation

if everyone has to hightail it outta here i'd like to see how long the queue to charge is at hope/squamish will be like

and our grid will need to be beefed the hell up to support majority on ev

Do you have the Gas Buddy app? They tell you which station is out of gas, and there is no shortage of 24 hour gas stations in the Lower Mainland.

At this point, I'd hardly say EV is superior to ICE as far as emergencies are concerned. Gas might be sold out at certain stations. Power could get knocked out in weather events as well. For the most part, they are just as vulnerable, although their vulnerabilities are, of course, a little different.

If anything, I'd say that the gas rationing this time has highlight a need to diversity your powertrain. Best to get 1 gas car, 1 diesel -- hello, used cooking oil~! -- and 1 EV. Then you've got all your bases covered. :D

https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/pcr-...ites-refuel-us

Because of BC’s fuel limit order, we can now drive down to the states to “get fuel” and be exempt from the covid test. Unintended consequence or planned all along?

filled up in coq yesterday. signs everywhere for 30L max but the worker said I could fill up my tank if I wanted lol

said there wasent a supply or delivery issue at all. just gov regulations

And somehow my in-law can't fill up the gas without wasting 30+ minutes in line which he'd only get 30L?

I'm not saying that there are no ways to mitigate. But gas is extremely sensitive to both supply and logistic disruption.

EV is certainly not absolutely free of such. Power can get disconnected and power plant can go out. However, it is much less likely for electricity to require 10+ days of ration and pretty much 0 fluctuations in price.

People out in Abby, how are the gas stations doing out there?

So they can’t waste 30 minutes looking for gas but they can take an EV and charge with 120v for 8 hours? Lol

EV owners like Vegans

What if the gas restrictions get extended past Dec 1 :troll: