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SkinnyPupp 02-27-2022 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp (Post 9056099)
Swiss people trying to get their government to sanction Russia. Sanctions from them would obviously hold a lot of power

https://streamable.com/jj7jld

Here we go:

Neutral Swiss poised to freeze Russian assets - president

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Asked whether Switzerland -- a major financial centre and commodities trading hub -- would follow the EU in freezing Russian assets, he said: "It is very probable that the government will decide to do so tomorrow, but I cannot anticipate decisions not yet taken."

El Bastardo 02-27-2022 02:21 PM

Like quasi, I'm also ethnically (partially) Ukrainian so there is no question where my position is on this war. That being said; this being posted by the Ukrainian National Guard's official Twitter account is immoral.




The famous Azov Battalion is shown dipping their bullets in pork lard in anticipation of fighting Kadyrov's (likely Muslim) Chechen forces.


No matter where you stand on the side of this conflict, this is not okay.


Its not even an original idea:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...25d_story.html

Rallydrv 02-27-2022 02:31 PM

Yep. Sorry but The guy shooting at me from the other side to kill me and my family makes it ok.

And most likely they are using ak rifles so I don't think rifle will mind or jam either

SkinnyPupp 02-27-2022 02:38 PM

If they're afraid of being shot by pork bullets they should go home

Manic! 02-27-2022 02:53 PM

Twitter banned Russia bots and some Canadian politicians are getting a lot less likes on twitter.


68style 02-27-2022 02:59 PM

I really hate the way the world has become information wise... I'd gladly trade not being able to google something quickly for less bullshit every day.

The Producer 02-27-2022 03:23 PM

wait...twitter can actually find and remove russian trolls/bots?

how about we go and do that - permanently. the amount of real damage these guys do to people as unbelievable.

SkinnyPupp 02-27-2022 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by The Producer (Post 9056183)
wait...twitter can actually find and remove russian trolls/bots?

how about we go and do that - permanently. the amount of real damage these guys do to people as unbelievable.

They're constantly banning Russian and Chinese bots, but new ones get made constantly - until now

Tegra_Devil 02-27-2022 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by 68style (Post 9056180)
I really hate the way the world has become information wise... I'd gladly trade not being able to google something quickly for less bullshit every day.

As long as pornhub isn't hurt by this plan :alone:

320icar 02-27-2022 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by The Producer (Post 9056183)
wait...twitter can actually find and remove russian trolls/bots?

how about we go and do that - permanently. the amount of real damage these guys do to people as unbelievable.

That was exactly my thought!!!! If it was so fucking easy why didn’t you do it already

Hehe 02-27-2022 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by 68style (Post 9056180)
I really hate the way the world has become information wise... I'd gladly trade not being able to google something quickly for less bullshit every day.

Well, the problem is what's defined as "bullshit"? More importantly, who gets to decide it?

Because of all the woke and cancel culture "bullshit", it's now ok for media to act as gatekeepers. They can choose what information to feed you and what to fact-check and what not to. It's so deeply embedded into our society that if it's something that "most" don't agree with, then it must be bullshit.

In an ideal world, all information should be posted as is, with rebuttal/fact-check from different sources. Then readers can make their own judgment.

This is what's causing the divisive society. Each side only want/can hear what they want to hear, with no respect to the other side whatsoever.

The moment we stop respecting or at least hearing the argument from other side, we stopped being fair and respectful to the society. Sadly... too few understand this.

I'm not saying that Russia isn't posting bullshit. It's just what's fair and what's appropriate really? So, be careful what you wish for.

The Producer 02-27-2022 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp (Post 9056184)
They're constantly banning Russian and Chinese bots, but new ones get made constantly - until now

so what's changed? if the ability to block these bad actors exists now, today - hasn't it always existed? will it exist moving forward?

let's try a world w no social media bots for a few months and see how things go.

SkinnyPupp 02-27-2022 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by The Producer (Post 9056190)
so what's changed? if the ability to block these bad actors exists now, today - hasn't it always existed? will it exist moving forward?

let's try a world w no social media bots for a few months and see how things go.

Russia has banned twitter completely and blocks all the popular VPNs... Twitter never considered blocking entire countries, though some argue it should be the case for both China and Russia

The Producer 02-27-2022 04:04 PM

russia has banned itself from maintaining it's constant disinformation feeds into western social media? they have no ability to maintain that output while simultaneously quashing it's own citizens internet access?

i haven't taken a computer course in 20 years - but that doesn't seem plausible to me. :pokerface:

silver lining i guess for us - good luck w your socials alt right provocateurs

yray 02-27-2022 06:32 PM

just bought car parts from Russia before the war

guess I won't be getting it anytime soon

dachinesedude 02-27-2022 06:53 PM

The guy is really like a villain in a movie


Teriyaki 02-27-2022 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by yray (Post 9056206)
just bought car parts from Russia before the war

guess I won't be getting it anytime soon

Dang didn't know you drove a Lada

CRS 02-27-2022 07:06 PM

With that kind of dressing down, I can imagine that people are just waiting for a convenient moment to rid themselves of their tormentor.

whitev70r 02-27-2022 07:21 PM

Seriously need a mutiny ... need a Brutus and Cassisus to this Julius Caesar

AzNightmare 02-27-2022 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp (Post 9056127)
Here's a good video explaining why Putin "might" invade Ukraine (as it came out about 3 weeks before it happened). It explains the situation going all the way back to the empire days.

dark0821 explained it pretty much above. They are worried about being next to a NATO country with no defense. So instead of saying "shit maybe we should make peace with those people so we can live harmoniously without actually having to worry about our border", they just invaded them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Egjeeb8lux0

Why the fails on this post? Is there an issue with what's said in the video?

Eff-1 02-27-2022 10:58 PM

RTE interviews the Russian Ambassador to Ireland and the interviewer gets a lot of praise after for telling this doofus like it is.

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Russian: Will you let me explain some basic facts?
RTE: Please, try your best.

SkinnyPupp 02-28-2022 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by AzNightmare (Post 9056220)
Why the fails on this post? Is there an issue with what's said in the video?

I assume it was an accidental click for one; same thing happened to someone else just the other day that took me aback at first LUL

The nikko account fails almost every post I make, so I just ignore them

pastarocket 02-28-2022 08:17 AM

Mental health issues for Putin? :considered:

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canad...cid=entnewsntp

Normally regarded as coldly rational, Russian President Vladimir Putin has alarmed influential figures in Washington with his angry outbursts as the Ukraine crisis unfolded.

Canadians urged to avoid non-essential travel to Russia amid Ukraine war
Ukraine updates, Day 5: Ukraine submits request to join the European Union

Normally regarded as coldly rational, Russian President Vladimir Putin has alarmed influential figures in Washington with his angry outbursts as the Ukraine crisis unfolded.

Russian President Vladimir Putin announces he is putting nuclear deterrence forces on high alert, in this still image obtained from a video, in Moscow, Russia, February 27, 2022.© Provided by National Post Russian President Vladimir Putin announces he is putting nuclear deterrence forces on high alert, in this still image obtained from a video, in Moscow, Russia, February 27, 2022.
Florida senator Marco Rubio, who is vice-chair of the Senate Intelligence Committee, was among those to question Putin’s mental health.

“I wish I could share more, but for now I can say it’s pretty obvious to many that something is off with Putin,” he tweeted.

“He has always been a killer, but his problem now is different and significant. It would be a mistake to assume this Putin would react the same way he would have five years ago.”

Rubio added that the Russian president appeared to have: “some neuro/psychological issues”.

He added: “But most telling is this is a man who has long prided himself on emotional control. His recent flashes of anger is very uncharacteristic and show an erosion in impulse control.”

68style 02-28-2022 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Hehe (Post 9056189)
Well, the problem is what's defined as "bullshit"? More importantly, who gets to decide it?

Because of all the woke and cancel culture "bullshit", it's now ok for media to act as gatekeepers. They can choose what information to feed you and what to fact-check and what not to. It's so deeply embedded into our society that if it's something that "most" don't agree with, then it must be bullshit.

I meant all of it... people are campaigning constantly left and right on stuff that, if people just sat down and closed their eyes for a few minutes, they'd realize that precisely none of it affects their life in any way... just people getting wound up about stuff and turning the smallest issues into snowballs rolling down a mountainside.

I for one could do with a lot less opinions around me... lol... sometimes ignorance truly is bliss no?

EvoFire 02-28-2022 09:11 AM

So my wife was telling me about conspiracy theories and that some people think Ukraine and Russia are actually in on this. I told her I can come up with plenty of weird conspiracy theories but it doesn't mean it's really true.

Don't ban me @Skinny.

I told her this is the shit I came up with:
1) It might be a ploy for Putin to be the bad cop, push Russia so far to one side of the spectrum that the country rebounds to become pro west and pro democracy. If he doesn't push it far enough the people won't have enough resolve to make it happen.
2) Ukraine and Russia are in on this, invade Ukraine to the point where the West would sell them the best weapons, so Russia has unlimited access to them to reverse engineer and copy all the tech in it, and also develop countermeasures.

I reiterate to her just because someone can come up with it doesn't mean it's actually true.


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