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StylinRed · 07-31-2022, 09:23 AM

Go Max!

Ferrari should just quit

Great68 · 07-31-2022, 09:38 AM

Calling the championships lost for Red Bull after Austria isn't aging too well now

StylinRed · 07-31-2022, 09:39 AM

SkunkWorks · 07-31-2022, 10:14 AM

Lol ferrari

You'll see in 6 months

sonick · 07-31-2022, 10:29 AM

Norris did well hanging on the hard tires, perhaps would it have been worth sticking with the hards for Leclerc instead of losing time pitting again for the softs?

TypeRNammer · 07-31-2022, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by supafamous

I watched the first 25 laps before pausing it and I figured this was going to be an easy Ferrari 1-2 then I opened up Reddit and WTF?!?!

Now I gotta watch the rest of the race out of morbid curiosity.

I was watching the highlights on YouTube thinking it was going to be an easy win for Ferrari.

I see that Max spun, but still wins the race.

And Ferrari out of the podium positions?!

I definitely need to watch this race in its entirety to fully understand what happened.

snowball · 07-31-2022, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Great68

Calling the championships lost for Red Bull after Austria isn't aging too well now

They still have the fastest car, Leclerc just needs to be in the car and in the booth at the same time.

At this rate we'll be seeing a Red Bull & Mercedes 1-2 at the end of the year

snowball · 07-31-2022, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by TypeRNammer

I was watching the highlights on YouTube thinking it was going to be an easy win for Ferrari.

I see that Max spun, but still wins the race.

And Ferrari out of the podium positions?!

I definitely need to watch this race in its entirety to fully understand what happened.

It was exactly what was shown in the highlights, they made Leclerc drive on hards even though he wanted to extend his stint on mediums. Dunno why the engineers don't listen to their drivers when they can feel what's happening in the car.

TypeRNammer · 07-31-2022, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by snowball

It was exactly what was shown in the highlights, they made Leclerc drive on hards even though he wanted to extend his stint on mediums. Dunno why the engineers don't listen to their drivers when they can feel what's happening in the car.

Thanks for the clarification, I was half awake when I was watching the highlights

TypeRNammer · 07-31-2022, 07:18 PM

After watching the race in its entirety

Max with a super solid drive winning from 10th place and a 360 spin on top of that

Lewis finding that extra pace out of no where on the second half of the race.

George being Mr. Consistency

Charles vs Ferrari Strategists when he got pitted for hards and then back in again for softs, talk about a race being ruined in epic proportions

Lando once again carrying the entire team on his back.

sonick · 08-01-2022, 08:06 AM

Alonso to Aston Martin in multi year deal. Not sure why he would do that unless Alpine did not want him. AM just seems like a bad situation all around, slow car, fucked up owner-son dynamic.

Oscar Piastri likely to take the second Alpine seat.

The Producer · 08-01-2022, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by sonick

Alonso to Aston Martin in multi year deal. Not sure why he would do that unless Alpine did not want him. AM just seems like a bad situation all around, slow car, fucked up owner-son dynamic.

Oscar Piastri likely to take the second Alpine seat.

StylinRed · 08-01-2022, 02:25 PM

Alonso to take Vettels place at Aston Martin him n Otmar must really dislike each other

And Danny Ric may end up in Alonsos seat

But I read comments saying Ocon is gone too?! didn't see an article for that though

HonestTea · 08-01-2022, 02:50 PM

Piastri's gonna take the Alpine seat unless McLaren decides to offer something ridiculous to Piastri and buyout Danny's contract lol

Koflach · 08-01-2022, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by StylinRed

Alonso to take Vettels place at Aston Martin him n Otmar must really dislike each other

And Danny Ric may end up in Alonsos seat

But I read comments saying Ocon is gone too?! didn't see an article for that though

There's almost no way that Danny Ric is going to Alpine as they will probably promote Piastri. The only way that I can see something like this happening is if Piastri is loaned to Williams for a year or two so he can cut his teeth in F1 there and then come in and hit the ground running at Alpine.

It's really nice to see that Merc is able to keep up with Ferrari and RB as the races are so much more interesting when there are three teams fighting for first instead of 2.

sonick · 08-01-2022, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by StylinRed

Alonso to take Vettels place at Aston Martin him n Otmar must really dislike each other

And Danny Ric may end up in Alonsos seat

But I read comments saying Ocon is gone too?! didn't see an article for that though

Sounded like it was more an issue of the owner not wanting to sign Alo to a Multi year deal. Otmar seemed to be quite positive to him.

FN-2199 · 08-01-2022, 08:21 PM

Alonso: “I still have the hunger and ambition to fight to be at the front, and I want to be part of an organization that is committed to learn, develop and succeed.”

My guy, do you realize who you signed with

StylinRed · 08-01-2022, 08:37 PM

Supposedly Alpine was offering Alonso a 1yr deal while AM gave Alonso a 1+1+1+1 open deal entirely up to Alonso @20million plus AM built a new state of the art factory etc etc

inv4zn · 08-01-2022, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by sonick

Alonso to Aston Martin in multi year deal. Not sure why he would do that unless Alpine did not want him. AM just seems like a bad situation all around, slow car, fucked up owner-son dynamic.

Oscar Piastri likely to take the second Alpine seat.

AM is opening a brand new (ie. state of the art) factory by 2023. Alonso will likely be involved in developing the car.

sonick · 08-02-2022, 10:22 AM

awkward:

Shot:

Chaser:

EvoFire · 08-02-2022, 10:38 AM

Awkward. Now I am very curious where Piastri lands.

68style · 08-02-2022, 10:57 AM

Nobody makes mistakes like this in business this big... you can't tell me this stuff isn't being done for the sake of theatre

inv4zn · 08-02-2022, 11:58 AM

Rumours are he's replacing DR...which makes no sense because DR has the option to extend into 2023, unless I guess McLaren buys him out...and he can then go to Alpine? Bring Cyril back?

Eff-1 · 08-02-2022, 01:33 PM

After reading way too many articles today, I am certain all this chaos was was triggered by Alonso haha.

- Alpine had no clue Alonso was going to leave. They found out by reading the press release! lol

- Alonso's move took everyone by surprise, except Toto Wolff knew! He would have had to sign off on Aston doing the deal as Aston's engine supplier. Which is crazy to me that Toto (and thus Mercedes) has so much sway across everything in F1, but makes sense I guess.

- Alpine already has a contract in place with OP as a Renault junior driver and believes that contract ties him to a seat with Alpine F1 next year.

- If OP is willing to turn down his first seat in F1 with Alpine (solid mid-pack team) just like that, he must already have another seat. i.e. McLaren. i.e. i.e. So long Daniel.

- Because Alpine didn't know Alonso was about to jump ship, Alpine was instead lobbying for Williams to sign OP next year. But OP didn't want to go there and that was the main reason he started talking to others.

- I feel bad for Daniel. He's such a good guy and talented, it's a shame things just never seem to 'click' for him throughout his entire F1 career in the way they did for say Sainz or Russell. Going back to Renault would be rough for him. Kind of like when Homer Simpson quit the power plant but then was forced to ask for his job back lol.

- If OP and Alpine end up in a contractual dispute, the FIA has an independent arbitration panel they can use. The last time this arbitration panel was used was when Jenson Button tried to leave BAR for Williams but Williams put up a block. The FIA sided with BAR so JB had to stay. But then BAR eventually became Ross Brawn's racing team and Jenson won his first and only championship, meanwhile Williams ended up down in the dumps and has been ever since.

- If OP ends up at McLaren, then keep in mind OP's agent is Mark Webber, who was replaced at Red Bull by Daniel, lol

Eff-1 · 08-02-2022, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by 68style

Nobody makes mistakes like this in business this big... you can't tell me this stuff isn't being done for the sake of theatre

Funny enough this same exact scenario is happening in the USA right now with Indycar and Alex Palou who said he signed a deal with Zak Brown to be part of the McLaren family next year, possibly F1 or something else. Chip Ganassi was like no way, we have him under contract already.

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On 12 July, Chip Ganassi Racing put out a press release stating that it had taken up its option on Palou’s services for 2023, the driver having signed a two-year-plus-one-year-option contract towards the end of his rookie season with Dale Coyne Racing.

The statement contained a quote from team owner Chip Ganassi, stating: “Alex’s track record speaks for itself. He’s a proven champion and one of the most formidable drivers in the world. We are very excited to continue working together.”

Perhaps the most remarkable aspect was that this same press release included a quote from Palou himself. This read: “It’s a great feeling knowing I’ll be back with Chip Ganassi Racing next season.

“The team welcomed me with open arms from Day 1, and I’m excited to continue working with Chip, [CGR managing director] Mike Hull, the folks on the #10 NTT DATA Honda and everyone within the organisation. The goals remain the same and we will continue to work relentlessly towards achieving them.”

Why would a driver who had just signed a McLaren contract say that? Turns out, according to Palou, he didn’t.

Some hours later he tweeted: “I have recently learned from the media that this afternoon, without my approval, Chip Ganassi Racing issued a press release announcing that I would be driving with CGR in 2023. Even more surprising was that CGR’s release included a “quote” which did not come from me.

“I did not approve that press release, and I did not author or approve that quote. As I have recently informed CGR, for personal reasons, I do not intend to continue with the team after 2022. This evening’s unfortunate events aside, I have great respect for the CGR team, and look forward to finishing this season strongly together."