Still over $60k

Kei is always the answer like Miata

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My dad's building manager bought one, got sideswiped in it, and turned into an amputee. sooo yeah DONT BUY A KEI CAR.

^^ I mean a container full of illegal Mexicans can also fall on you :pokerface:

Ridgeline was the worst truck I've ever experienced. Small gas tank meant frequent stops with poor efficiency (mine was 6-speed, newer ones are 10-speed), tiny cabin. However the trunk inside the bed feature and dual opening of the liftgate is great innovation by honda.

That’s my biggest detractor with EV trucks for me. I think HEHE makes valid points, however about 4-5 times a year I’ll go to the cabin, go hunting, etc. the cabin we go hunting to is hardly “remote” it’s about an hour drive into the bush from Kamloops airport. However, we will drive probably 200-300km during the 4-5 days we are there. It’s basically a house and you could plug 120v in however, you fill up the F150 back in Kamloops and I could do all that driving in the bush, drive all the way home back to Vancouver, and never once think about it.

Same can’t be said with the EV. If I did that once a year, might be a consideration, but 4+ times, nah

"Just rent a truck when you need it" All rental companies ban off-road use and have extreme restrictions on towing.

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Nothing like a few dead deer and blood all over the u-haul lol

I would say the exact same things about EVs had I not rented a PHEV before the EV, and then a couple brands of EV for road trips.

Sure, but when you wanna do hillbilly things like muddin', going deep into the bush to hunt bear/moose, having a cold one with the broskis while towing the malibu wakesetter to cultus lake; you need a gasser, and nothing commands more respect at the boat launch than a lifted Cummins dually.

Another nit picky thing about the flash trim...No sliding rear window. Not sure how much i would actually use or need it but you'd think for a 85K truck they would put it in.

The ActiveX "leather" is trash to the point id consider getting aftermarket leather put in. Id prefer cloth over those tbh.

You missed out last year when ford had a firesale on leftover 2023 lightning platinum for $80k. Maybe they’ll do it again. Occasionally they have really good 2year lease promos too.

FSRs are legally roads, so if you're sticking to those a rental should be fine. Any of the proper offroad trails around here you're not getting far with a truck either way so it should be a non issue for most people.

Katzkin is like $2300; you can also swap in Platinum seats for real leather (Lariat is also activeX in more recent model years).

Some guys have put heated/cooled Lariat seats into Lightning Pro before.
ICE HVAC, airbag, and seats are compatible.

You can also just swap the cushions onto the existing seat frame.

Lol, buying a travel trailer but renting a truck when you need to move it doesn't make a lot of sense to me.

It's all about planning with EVs. If you are anywhere within 200km radius from decently sized town (like at least with a commercial street of some form), chances are, you have a DC charger except once past Prince George. All you have to do is to make sure you charge it for as much as you need and that's it.

EVs, given the relatively limited charging stations, need preparation for longer/more remote trips. But it can be done, and many of my friends who had the idea of "just rent when needed" almost never ended up renting one.

Once you go EV, you just adjust your driving habits around it. It used to be just drive until the light comes on, now you either plug it in whenever you get home or you get used to how much charge you need for whatever itinerary you might have.

Yes, an EV is not going to allow you to cannonball all the way to LA or Toronto. But realistically, how many times would you do for the entire duration of ownership?

People like to have Jack of all trades where the x thing you are buying today allows you to do every possible thing. But the fact is, you end up with something that barely does everything ok if not downright suck at everything.

For me, a pickup truck is a tool to get me from point A-->B while carrying some stuff I need say snowboard, bike... etc. I just want something extremely good and efficient at it. Towing/RV-ing/roadtrip... yeah, maybe... but if I'm really into that, I'd buy a dedicated vehicle that do them extremely well and efficient but not something I'd DD it.

My eyes glaze over with stats and rationale… end of the day EV will never cut it for me as a car enthusiast.

Planning to drive a sterility instrument of transportation and celebrating its efficiency and silent operating mannerism to arrive at destinations feeling quite pleased with myself for figuring out which charging station is next to the best Denny’s makes my dick soooooo limp.

A lot of people say they find the EV driving experience to be sterile / boring, and I have no intention of suggesting that they subjective opinion on the topic is wrong LOL~ From my limited driving and riding in EVs though, the only tangible difference I feel is the lack of engine / exhaust noise. The lack of it diminishes the experience a bit, but I would say I am only thinking that bcos I am used to all the hustle and bustle from an ICE. In a well-tuned EV, the EV still seems fun and exciting to drive and handle -- except that there is no getting around the weight.

When a car handles well (for its weight), it handles well (for its weight). And I'd say good handling makes a car fun to drive. People say the instant torque makes it a one-trick pony, and you get used to the torque/power. I'd say power and torque is power and torque. They are always fun to have, and EVs have plenty of it, and right away when you ask for it. That makes it fun!

While I agree, driving a truck isn't exactly an exciting experience to begin with.

I found a few sort of fun before, made nice noises at least hahaha

They're fun on logging roads :)

A F150 raptor is awesome, gives you a king of the road vibe and you can hit a pothole at 50km/h and barely feel a thing with that fox suspension. Cant imagine how much more fun the raptor R is with the 5L supercharged V8.

An empty F350 with the powerstroke pushing 1000ft/lb torque is fun doing highway pulls.

Anyone have a Ford Ranger or would recommend one? F150 might be a bit big for parkades or undergrounds.

That new Raptor R is the nicest half ton on the market, beautiful truck, sounds amazing, incredibly versatile

I've seen a few of the new v6 raptors drive by, they sound like ass. Unlike the old V8 ones.