The Raptor R is a supercharged V8 FYI...

I kinda want a raptor r. i might get it after my hitlerbox lease is up.

what am i gonna tow? shaddup!

why do i need a 1/2 ton pickup? shaddup!

what about the gas money? shaddup!

where you gonna park that pos? shaddup!

Raptor R is nice, but the trade-off is payload rating is low at only 1400lbs. (If towing is your goal that kind of sucks, factor 10-15% tongue weight and you're only a couple of big passengers away from capacity, with an empty bed

I would LOVE to see Hobz tow anything. :D

Please trade in your hitlerbox early - you need the Raptor for driving over the West Dyke Trail to shoot wildlife photography.

i dont even know what to do with it... kinda wanna take it to a beetle meat and lay a fat 11 infront of all those fags.

I see more and more of badhobz compatriots driving raptors around richmond, maybe it's the new G-wagon? It's funny though cause the raptor is too tall for aberdeen mall for dim sum, but also too wide with the fender flares that it legally needs orange clearance lights.

Just get a cyber truck, get it to self drive you to dim sum or holt Renfrew so you can get bj on the way.

Having a truck with less payload capacity than a Toyota Sienna is a bit funny. Looks like it's rated for 8k towing. In BC I like to stay under 75% so say a 6k trailer and 1050 payload. 600lbs tongue weight + me and the family is 1030lbs without any gear or snacks. That's not super practical.

I don't like this segment because there are a lot of compromises unless you're really looking for an off roader.
Tiny cabins, terrible powertrains, rough ride quality, etc.

Tacoma? That 4 cylinder is criminally bad, there's nowhere to put shit, and hybrid loses under seat storage WTF.
Ranger? The center console deflects ike 3CM if you press it down hard enough .. but at least it has the best powertrain.
Colorado? Things are looking up; great interior, AT4X trim slaps, and is a half size larger than the rest.

Other options I like
Gladiator - I actually really like this, it gets all the Wrangler development dollars so it's actually kinda good ... but ugly.
Rivian - Similar footprint to other mid sizers but it's full sized inside and drives like a sports car.

https://i.ibb.co/Jwdjvksz/128285d6-7...eaf7e91bd.webp
https://i.ibb.co/tPxZKsW9/shelby.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/20gS2Z1M/OIP-2.jpg

Ohhhhh yeaaaaahhhh...

I find it interesting that nobody talks about the Nissans. My parents had a 2020 Frontier and it was a good vehicle. I know people knocked it for being dated but it was well built and drove well. It felt like an SUV to drive rather than a truck which was nice. I liked it way better than the Tacoma I had for a couple days, the ride quality in it was way worse and even being empty and on a flat highway it was so gutless it was genuinely a hazard so I can't even imagine what it'd be like in BC.

Now they have a Titan, that feels like every other truck to drive which is to be expected for the size but it tows well at least. Pulling a 23ft camper that weighs about 6k and you barely knew it was back there.

I think folks here on the forum generally don't care for Nissan. :p

Yeah the Tacoma is just so terrible, really need someone to help me understand why it’s well loved.

Looks like Frontier actually offers a 6 foot bed? And it has the Mercedes 9 speed paired with VQ too?

Because Toyota, I always kinda wanted an armada or qx90 whatever they call them now, but then gas prices here.

They hold their value like crazy

I just realized the Tacoma had 2 engines available in the year I rented, and being a rental I'm assuming it had the I4. The V6 would've had power in line with the Frontier. The Frontier was looking pretty dated by then, I still liked the look of the Pro 4X, but the base models weren't as cool as the Tacoma and the interior felt a bit out of style as well. Unless somebody went and test drove both they're not going to know about the difference in driving feel so I can see why a lot of people went for Tacomas.

I don't know anything about the current Frontier but the styling is nice and if it's as long-lived as the previous model then servicing it should be a breeze.

Honestly I like the Frontier, it's being slept on for a mid-size truck these days.

Anecdote: I thought my V6 rental was a 4 cyl - it was so gutless.

Turns out the trans refuses to downshift/constantly gear hunts is the #1 complaint of that gen. The Atkinson cycle V6 even has a torque dip between 2700 and 4k rpm wtf!

Got same fuel economy as a 2.7 Ecoboost F150…

Ranger wise the 2.3T feels way stronger than Tacoma current and previous gen V6, let alone the 2.7/3.0T

That Ranger centre console screen is so ugly. I prefer the Horizontal > Vertical for screens that size.

I wonder if Nissan has any fire sales, I heard they had pretty good deals on Pathfinder and new Murano in us

Yeah with the ranger you’re really buying the engine/suspension/noise insulation and the rest of the truck comes free

Sierra EV?

Looking to get back into a truck and until this thread never would have considered an EV

i don't drive much. may be 12K kms a year, my work commute is like 12kms and should be for a while.

i used to have an 18 ram 1500 laramie and liked it. miss it.

Random other upside:

It's been getting pretty hot outside, and I use both our ICE car and our EV.

With the EV, I've just kept the climate control running out in the parking lot while running errands, and it's nice and cool when I get back in 10-15 minutes later. It's called dog mode or pet mode etc.

While with the ICE, there's no such option unless I wanted to be leaving the car idling out there.

When I'm gone longer I can get the vehicle to start the climate back up before I'm ready to go, and it's nice inside by the time I get back to the car.

It can do the same thing with the heating in the winter, except I mind that a lot less. Getting into a hot car to me is way more annoying.

What did you like about Ram? I'm going to guess it's ride and interior quality, lots of space to put things, very comfy feeling.

Sierra EV has a lot of tradeoffs unless you're driving or towing super long distance. Big battery means it rides rough, the interior is low quality and the door panel armrests slim because of the midgate.

If you like the nice interior and lots of usable storage for laptop / gear, the Rivian is the closest thing; rides a bit rough but you're rewarded with sports car dynamics and steering feel.

A heavily depreciated Lightning Platinum with the massaging seats is a better truck than Sierra for most people; rides and drives super smooth, great app, better self driving than super cruise.... not many tradeoffs.