[KaOsTiK]

Originally posted by wouwou
I am paying 4.95 with Questrade for up to 500 shares

or I can pay 10 for unlimited shares.

that PWNS 29 anytime

this is a little misleading..and can bite you if you're playing pennies and sub-pennies.

the deal is.. 4.95 per trade and 1 cent per share for any trade over 500 shares.

having said that...to make decent money off pennies and such, perhaps you'd wanna buy more than 1000 shares in a given stock. well, then the 9.95 unlimited trading package would be more suitable.

i use questrade too...and i like them very much.



now...i wanna know who cashed in on cctc today? and who plans on buying in when ppl start selling off tomorrow....and holding or just skimping a mere profit at the least?

[KaOsTiK]

btw...if anyone wants questrade referral requests...PM me. i think you get 5 free trades or something out of it.

[RFlush]

Originally posted by KaOsTiK
btw...if anyone wants questrade referral requests...PM me. i think you get 5 free trades or something out of it.
Can you PM a referral? I tried to sign up earlier but it kept getting stuck after the first page.

[KaOsTiK]

Originally posted by RFlush
Can you PM a referral? I tried to sign up earlier but it kept getting stuck after the first page.


sure, PM me your first name, last name, email and contact #. They are required fields on the referral form.

[vl_86]

Originally posted by Synarchist
what happens when a stock gets delisted due to not maintaining the minimum requirements?

when a stock gets de-listed, it just means they aren't on a stock exchange anymore

getting listed on the stock exchange includes having a minimum price, annual reporting requirements, etc

usually the main reason stocks are de-listed is not meeting a minmum price, and might have a reverse stock split in order to get back on there

A really bad thing about not being on the stock exchange is that they might be able to screw around with the annual reports, not having enough equity funding

[forgamez]

Originally posted by vl_86
when a stock gets de-listed, it just means they aren't on a stock exchange anymore

getting listed on the stock exchange includes having a minimum price, annual reporting requirements, etc

usually the main reason stocks are de-listed is not meeting a minmum price, and might have a reverse stock split in order to get back on there

A really bad thing about not being on the stock exchange is that they might be able to screw around with the annual reports, not having enough equity funding

Actually two things can happen if a stock gets delisted:

1) It gets kicked down to a junior exchange.

(ie. NASDAQ to OTCBB) (OTCBB to Pinksheets)

2) It just no longer trades. You are left with stock which will have very little to zero liquidity.

[Feint*]

Originally posted by Feint*
SIRF looks really interesting with the GPS product growth in phones / apps. Quite cheap given its huge drop today... definitely watching

Interactive Intelligence (ININ) dropped huge recently like SIRF, they offer call center services to companies like Capital One. missed earning potentials and dropped on consumer confidence imo.

I lucked out on Yahoo last week at $22 or so, let's hope the buyout goes through! Keep the tips coming!

Interactive Intelligence up nearly 10% today! Should've bought some last week. Now let's see if SiRF do the same despite getting dropped by Garmin...

Last Trade: 17.36
Trade Time: Feb 11
Change: Up 1.53 (9.67%)

[Mananetwork]

I had GRIN this morning.. I let it go to early because I didn't think the news was good enough to hold and the thing shot up 400%+

[l4d2_sarge]

just put an order in for DISK.. cmon baby fly this could be a diamond in the rough before word hits the street on this one

basically it has been getting owned the past month because of a buyout deal that fell through. But they released very good earnings last night so it looks like the company is doing great on their own, hopefully it shoots back up fast to the levels it was before shit hit the fan

[l4d2_sarge]

damn was hoping for a pop at the open guess it will take a bit of time

[Mananetwork]

DISK did well this morning, but it couldn't hold the overnight buys. It's made a profit though.

I picked up TUBR. Super quiet stock with very little volume but after reading about it it look promising, but very risky. Internet video sharing ftw! It's well for me

[Synarchist]

think TUBR will go down a bit on monday next week or rise?

[Mananetwork]

Originally posted by Synarchist
think TUBR will go down a bit on monday next week or rise?

No idea. There was no news, not sure why the spike, might be internal. The rest of the day it was quiet, resistance at .5 and .45. I have to now do some research over the weekend.

[KaOsTiK]

cctc has readjusted between $6-7 per share, giving a presplit value of $30-35 per share. I think i told you guys about this when it was $18-20

news is coming out from india after their meeting with gov't officials on feb 26. it's also rumored that a PR maybe seen next week.

i'm loading up on shares while she's low.

[White_TSX83]

there's huge potential with cctc. got some at 5.75 today, very happy about that. good luck to all of you guys with this stock!

[bossxx]

Originally posted by Synarchist
think TUBR will go down a bit on monday next week or rise?

Monday the markets are closed..

Prob gap down on tuesday and close around the support from this week (.2 or less). I say this because it gapped up with no news and very little volume. Everyone and their mom is going to be dumping this tuesday.

Always take your profits. Esp with pinkies..

jmo

[bossxx]

On a sidenote, anyone own any CIGI? this is ridiculous

http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=CIGI.PK&t=1d

+0.14 (27900.36%)

[Synarchist]

no fucking way!!!
i was gonna buy this
but wanted to do more research first
damn damn damn
god dammmmn

[Mananetwork]

Originally posted by redliine
Monday the markets are closed..

Prob gap down on tuesday and close around the support from this week (.2 or less). I say this because it gapped up with no news and very little volume. Everyone and their mom is going to be dumping this tuesday.

Always take your profits. Esp with pinkies..

jmo

You don't need news for everything. Sometimes stock move because people talk, some people might know something I don't know. It's a gamble though, I don't want to say TUBR is going to be stable at opening, that's why i'll watch it. If I see a downtrend, i'll sell, take my profits and move on.

[KaOsTiK]

^ or stock manipulation, insider trading, paying off debts with shares, etc.


Synarchist: hindsight is always 20/20. I've learned, that if you leave the shoulda woulda coulda's behind you...it keeps your stress at a minimum

[KaOsTiK]

anyone into etfc longterm?

[bossxx]

Originally posted by Mananetwork
You don't need news for everything. Sometimes stock move because people talk, some people might know something I don't know. It's a gamble though, I don't want to say TUBR is going to be stable at opening, that's why i'll watch it. If I see a downtrend, i'll sell, take my profits and move on.

ic.

I think this move today was pretty abnormal. Don't you think average joes will sell off at the next bell or sell half and keep the free shares? I think people who bought from september till last week will be selling.

I realize you don't need news for everything. I used to base my picks on what kind of company it was and news and all that stuff but I soon realize that even if pk's and ob's have great news the stock will either hit the moon or sink. it pisses me off. Now i base my trades 90% TA and seem to find better exits and entry points.. instead of guessing and holding bags and watching stocks sink hoping and praying for PR's to push it back up. if you learn ta you take out the guess work and save urself a lot of stress and money imo..

[Alphamale]

Sorry to ask, but what is "TA"?

[KaOsTiK]

technical analysis

[forgamez]

Originally posted by Mananetwork
You don't need news for everything. Sometimes stock move because people talk, some people might know something I don't know. It's a gamble though, I don't want to say TUBR is going to be stable at opening, that's why i'll watch it. If I see a downtrend, i'll sell, take my profits and move on.

and most of the times its promoters selling stock between themselves trying to "create" volume and luring in outside buyers...

[Mananetwork]

Originally posted by forgamez
and most of the times its promoters selling stock between themselves trying to "create" volume and luring in outside buyers...

We'll see what happends, it's a gamble right. If that's the case, i'll sell and still come out with a profit.

[Mananetwork]

MEVT

http://www.emailwire.com/release/11423-MSE-EnviroTech-Announces-Breakthrough.html

Some hot news that came out over the weekend.

[Mananetwork]

Originally posted by White_TSX83
there's huge potential with cctc. got some at 5.75 today, very happy about that. good luck to all of you guys with this stock!

FutureGen Goes Up in Smoke... and Clean Coal Technologies Fail Again

http://www.insnet.org/ins_headlines.rxml?id=6259&photo=

[Jonydakiller]

Originally posted by KaOsTiK
anyone into etfc longterm?
i'm in etfc all the way to $10 or maybe more!

[bossxx]

Originally posted by redliine
Monday the markets are closed..

Prob gap down on tuesday and close around the support from this week (.2 or less). I say this because it gapped up with no news and very little volume. Everyone and their mom is going to be dumping this tuesday.

Always take your profits. Esp with pinkies..

jmo

As expected TUBR took a big hit today dropping 33%, (although I was predicting more of a loss)..

Hope you got out before noon haha

-----

On a side note I made money today with HPOL (8.4%), going to be picking up NXCN tomorrow morning.

GL everyone.

[Mananetwork]

Originally posted by redliine
As expected TUBR took a big hit today dropping 33%, (although I was predicting more of a loss)..

Hope you got out before noon haha

-----

On a side note I made money today with HPOL (8.4%), going to be picking up NXCN tomorrow morning.

GL everyone.

Yes, it was quite crazy, down to .32 then up to .49, then back down again. I sold the second the market opened so I made what I needed. MEVT was good, but before the market even opened it was up 18%

[bossxx]

Good thing my buy order didnt go thru.

Buying tomorrow morning at .05.

I'm up 6.1% for february *twirls finger* haha

[KaOsTiK]

MCEL...it'll bounce soon with their NR

[Jonydakiller]

any of u guys have any comments on tclt? dropped to 0.0015, looks like a company with potential

[bossxx]

i think the company has a lot of potential too.. i bought that thing at .014 and sold it at .008 in one trading day (feb 8th).. i was so pissed. haha now its worth a fraction of that.

if i were you i'd wait till the dust settles.. this thing is out of control imo.

[bossxx]

Looking into ACTU tomorrow morning..

happy trading!

[KaOsTiK]

Originally posted by Jonydakiller
any of u guys have any comments on tclt? dropped to 0.0015, looks like a company with potential

based on TA alone, i wouldn't.
i didn't research too much into techalt, but i don't see anything that would make me wanna invest.

[KaOsTiK]

Originally posted by redliine
Looking into ACTU tomorrow morning..

happy trading!


same. ...was just looking at their macd and rsi

[iEatClams]

stocks i have in portfolio:
so far only canadian companies and no penny stocks.
POT, AGU (fertilizers will always be in demand plus the way our soil is treated and the environmental problems, i dont see these going anywhere)
YRI, G, OIL, LLL, ECA

I have RIM right now ( i bought back at 91, but i dont know about this holding anymore, so i might sell it next week).
Also LLL i might dump - picked it up at a good price but need some money for other stocks so will prob sell tomororw)

I think PCA - petrocanada is harsh undervalue and will prob pick it up once i sell LLL.

I think gold and oil stocks will do well in the short term.

[Mananetwork]

Can anyone say dead market. This whole week hasn't been very good. I'm sure there's the occasional jumpers, but not enough of them?!

**PS, 4 on my watchlist have 0 volume. Anybody getting those?

[Scoobysnax]

Originally posted by azndude69
stocks i have in portfolio:
so far only canadian companies and no penny stocks.
POT, AGU (fertilizers will always be in demand plus the way our soil is treated and the environmental problems, i dont see these going anywhere)
YRI, G, OIL, LLL, ECA

I have RIM right now ( i bought back at 91, but i dont know about this holding anymore, so i might sell it next week).
Also LLL i might dump - picked it up at a good price but need some money for other stocks so will prob sell tomororw)

I think PCA - petrocanada is harsh undervalue and will prob pick it up once i sell LLL.

I think gold and oil stocks will do well in the short term.

nice portfolio, i had a few of those in mines as well.. I would sell OIL for now. ~ $100 for oil in a recession is outrageous. RIM had a nice bump yesterday so take your profits, and look for another pull back :).

LLL I don't know.. they got hit lately due to personnel leaving, but they also got upgraded today as well as earnings in a month, which they should do really good..

[iEatClams]

good thing i held onto LLL. ill still hold on for a few more days. i just broke even on this stock though cause i bought it at around the same price so didnt make any money.

personally i think crude oil prices will be increasing even more so im gonna hold tight for a bit.

[l4d2_sarge]

patience pays off DISK has started its run watch out next week

[Jonydakiller]

Finally, another + 5% in AH, things are looking good next week!

Originally posted by MASTER WA
patience pays off DISK has started its run watch out next week

[bossxx]

Bought TYM @ 7.19 friday.

Looking for the greeeen babyy. This is going to determine how february goes.

GL everyone

[bossxx]

Originally posted by MASTER WA
patience pays off DISK has started its run watch out next week

Nice chart, looks nice!

Good luck!

[McDick]

how much are you guys buying anyways?
over $10K?

[bossxx]

Last year:

Start $8,500.00
End $27.00 lol

This year:
Start $3,000

Now I go slow. Make little gains and im doing a lot better. Last year I made like 2 trades. Fuck holding a sack of nuts all last year hahaha oh well. This year I start little and see how good I do. So far I am doing GOOD so i'm a happy guy. Learning every step of the way.. I just ordered a new book! wooop

[Jackwimmer]

with how the financials are hit so far this year, i shoulda just did what ur doing redliine, atleast im losing my money ON MY OWN and learning something for the future
god damn risk officers

[Jonydakiller]

DISK is on a run! buyout news very VERY soon..imo...

[KaOsTiK]

Originally posted by Jonydakiller
DISK is on a run! buyout news very VERY soon..imo...


if there's a buyout (or news of it) .. i hope it sticks this time. last time i got out with some profits before their merger was a bust.

i'd definitely watch DISK..but i dunno if i'd drop any cash in it yet


MCEL has some potential, for anyone wanting to do their DD

[Supa.Azn]

SAE - TSX-V on the move. just take a loook. do your dd.

[Synarchist]

pgsw.ob on a nice run

[KaOsTiK]

^ haha..i just msged that to Tom a little while ago

[Synarchist]

whos tom?

[TurtMcDirt]

Originally posted by Supa.Azn
SAE - TSX-V on the move. just take a loook. do your dd.

looks good to me. NR this week

[KaOsTiK]

Originally posted by Synarchist
whos tom?

mananetwork

[Mananetwork]

Originally posted by Synarchist
pgsw.ob on a nice run

Reminds me of LTVS! I've been looking at it since last week because it went up 650% 10 minutes before closing. The funny thing just before it closed everyday, it went up just a bit. I bought in and friday it closed at a minus just before closing .. FUCK!

[Synarchist]

visa will be trading on march 20th under the ticker V
share prices will be anywhere from 37-42 per
definitely a good solid one to buy into

[KaOsTiK]

i got about half a mill i'mma dump into it for sure

thanks for the heads up. i thought they weren't gonna start trading until the fall..but i'll double check.

[Bender Unit]

^^^ newbie question

I'm interested in VISA IPO for long run.
Wondering how can I get some shares before it get listing on NYSE . or I can't ??
Thank You

[l4d2_sarge]

Originally posted by Jonydakiller
DISK is on a run! buyout news very VERY soon..imo...

up another 5.5% AH! what are you planning to do? I think I will keep holding... I am also hoping for big news this week

[Mananetwork]

Originally posted by MASTER WA
up another 5.5% AH! what are you planning to do? I think I will keep holding... I am also hoping for big news this week

hmm after market trading is up.. Looks nice. Lets hope it drops so I can pick it back up at 1.5 :D

Good call on DISK .. It was ugly after first now it's going up

[Mananetwork]

In more news CCTC is annouching ANOTHER 5 to 1 split!!

http://www.freepressreleases.co.uk/Press_Releases/Economy/Clean_Coal_Technologies,_Inc._Announces_5-for-1_Forward_Split_2008022513176/&Itemid=60

[Synarchist]

uhh dood it already happened
and its not doing well now
seems like solar is winning the race

[Mananetwork]

Originally posted by Synarchist
uhh dood it already happened
and its not doing well now
seems like solar is winning the race

It's ANOTHER one

Clean Coal Technologies, Inc. Announces 5-for-1 Forward Split
Written by BreconGlobal
Monday, 25 February 2008

[KaOsTiK]

Originally posted by Mananetwork
It's ANOTHER one

Clean Coal Technologies, Inc. Announces 5-for-1 Forward Split
Written by BreconGlobal
Monday, 25 February 2008


that was just the date of the article in Free Press Releases archive.. but the date of the news was Jan 28.

i wish there were another split.. i'd ride the hype on that too

[Mananetwork]

Originally posted by KaOsTiK
that was just the date of the article in Free Press Releases archive.. but the date of the news was Jan 28.

i wish there were another split.. i'd ride the hype on that too

Confusing title as it's an announcement that was announced a month ago :S

[fa48]

got EBOF @.04 ....man OTC moves slow.



Anyone have any suggestions EBOF?? or the OTC market in general?

[vl_86]

Originally posted by Bender Unit
^^^ newbie question

I'm interested in VISA IPO for long run.
Wondering how can I get some shares before it get listing on NYSE . or I can't ??
Thank You

i doubt normal investors can get it when it first comes out, their usually sold to institutional firms kinda like what happened with Lulu when it first came out

i wonder how this stock is gonna turn out with credit crunch fears, and the possibility of a looming recession around, i know whoever invested in mastercard and held made a killing

[tyauzer1]

be quiet vl_86

[McDick]

Originally posted by Bender Unit
^^^ newbie question

I'm interested in VISA IPO for long run.
Wondering how can I get some shares before it get listing on NYSE . or I can't ??
Thank You

Call your broker to find out.
I am interested in VISA too.. but most likely I will have to buy it at their opening price when they go public in March.

[Bender Unit]

Will do ^ Thanks

[vl_86]

Originally posted by tyauzer1
be quiet vl_86

what are you doing in this forum, get outta here!

[Jonydakiller]

I don't think it could move higher without any news, might get out this week, take the gain and run :), what are u at? i'm $1.25
Originally posted by MASTER WA
up another 5.5% AH! what are you planning to do? I think I will keep holding... I am also hoping for big news this week

[l4d2_sarge]

Originally posted by Jonydakiller
I don't think it could move higher without any news, might get out this week, take the gain and run :), what are u at? i'm $1.25

all in at $1.30 like 2 weeks ago...i'd like to get out soon but this train just cant be stopped, the profit just keeps piling up day after day. Getting kind of greedy now, and playing like that has burned me in the past. I put a stop loss on today but it never hit

[Jonydakiller]

Originally posted by MASTER WA
all in at $1.30 like 2 weeks ago...i'd like to get out soon but this train just cant be stopped, the profit just keeps piling up day after day. Getting kind of greedy now, and playing like that has burned me in the past. I put a stop loss on today but it never hit
I guess it's good i didn't sell any yesterday, but yah, it's hard to sell when it's up big times everyday INCLUDING today :D Continue holdin...

[l4d2_sarge]

Originally posted by Jonydakiller
I guess it's good i didn't sell any yesterday, but yah, it's hard to sell when it's up big times everyday INCLUDING today :D Continue holdin...


oh man this goldmine is just too sick im so pumped let it ride!

[Mananetwork]

I bought in also this morning.. Good ride, i hope it keeps up

[Mananetwork]

Everyone is holding!
Great push last minute before closing.

Good call Master Wa!

[KaOsTiK]

MCEL cc tomorrow at 7am.

if you're gonna play this..get in BEFORE the cc

[KaOsTiK]

fyi: http://www.millenniumcell.com/fw/main/default.asp?DocID=92&reqid=1111025

[A]

KaOsTiK, i'm still curious on how you screen for these stocks. Care to share?

[KaOsTiK]

equityfeed.com (my platform), amongst newsletters i subscribe to, etc., and then doing dd on what i read. there's a few penny stock forums out there too, but half of them are scams. if you can identify who the scammers/pumpers are, you can make plays based on how they pump the stock.

Tom's been over and has seen a couple ways i screen my plays via my MCF filters

[McDick]

Originally posted by KaOsTiK
MCEL cc tomorrow at 7am.

if you're gonna play this..get in BEFORE the cc

Hmmmmm... your pick is down 6.5% after the CC.

[White_TSX83]

was hoping for some good news w/ the cc on mcel, turns out they acquired losses for the 4th qtr.

[KaOsTiK]

Originally posted by McDick
Hmmmmm... your pick is down 6.5% after the CC.

yes sir, but this one has huge potential. i dunno if anyone else bothered listening in on the conference call, but they announcements and issues discussed were positive. i'm invested in this now for a couple month hold.

it's something definitely worth doing you dd on, if you're interested. i've done mine...and i'm sticking with this until april/may for sure.

Originally posted by White_TSX83
was hoping for some good news w/ the cc on mcel, turns out they acquired losses for the 4th qtr.

i'm taking it that you didn't listen to their call either. they announced some very good news. also, their 4th quarter losses were less than they expected and they provided justification..in addition to a projection for 2008 and 2009.


if you wanna review their Q4 financials: http://www.millenniumcell.com/fw/main/default.asp?DocID=92&reqid=1113424

[White_TSX83]

ya, missed their cc. just read the link above and good news indeed. thanks!

"Commercial Launch of HydroPak(TM) Power Expected in Second Half of 2008"

[KaOsTiK]

Originally posted by White_TSX83
ya, missed their cc. just read the link above and good news indeed. thanks!

"Commercial Launch of HydroPak(TM) Power Expected in Second Half of 2008"

if nothing else, keep your eye on it for fun

edit: back last year, i went to CES in vegas, and external battery packs providing power for pda/other devices via usb were getting some attention.

this is something mcel is getting into here, in addition to powered gurneys for the military. they talked about working with protronics and jadu, their hydrogen cells, and a few other things. i have notes from the call written in my notebook, but i'm sure you get the point. it would be nice if a nr comes out sometime in the next few days, if nothing else, summarizing the cc.

[bossxx]

FRGY made another leap today going up 111%.

This might keep going into tomorrow..

[KaOsTiK]

EEVT may have another run this afternoon (est). i've more than doubled up and am staying in this one..but i'm not gonna hold on to it over the weekend. there's good volume (over 1 million) and yes, it's an otc. as always, do your own dd. gluck

[McDick]

Originally posted by McDick
Hmmmmm... your pick is down 6.5% after the CC.

MCEL down another 10% today! Ouch!

[KaOsTiK]

yup...MCEL is down, but i'm holding until april/may. i'm not even looking twice at it until then. if she tanks, she tanks. i like what i see in the company and the management, so i'm confident in this investment.

i think it'd be wise if they had a NR sometimes pre-market monday or on monday summarizing their cc.

in other news :P .. cctc spiked, as did eevt, and bdrr

for those that invest in the mining/exploration sector: PDAC is next week
http://www.pdac.ca/

[Hondaracer]

what do u guys think of LLL?

hit an all-time low today, i'm somewhat interested but havent read much so far

[bossxx]

Watching FRGY this week and holding LLEG .

[KaOsTiK]

watching RLTR and RFMD tomorrow..and as always, cctc

mcel .. it's forgotten about until april-may

[bossxx]

GL buddy! Hope we start march off with a bang.

[Gt-R R34]

Hoped you guys check'ed out aph.v when i posted here.
it's a 10bagger now officially for me.

[peter.c.g]

ANyone know a good school where it teachs good methond of investing stock market or anything similar to forex

[wouwou]

Originally posted by peter.c.g
ANyone know a good school where it teachs good methond of investing stock market or anything similar to forex for any school, consider the following question:

"if they are really that good, why aren't they RICH?"

:D

[KaOsTiK]

langara college had a good course back when i used to teach there, via part-time studies.

i forget the old guy's name, but he taught an intro to investing/stocks. he's very knowledgeable and ppl seem to like his course.

[bones]

Just wondering if someone could give me their opinion on MTX? seems promising

[Jonydakiller]

Recommendation: put all your investment in ETFC and come back in a year, you will be glad!:D imo...

[KaOsTiK]

Originally posted by Jonydakiller
Recommendation: put all your investment in ETFC and come back in a year, you will be glad!:D imo...


well..i'd rather put in all my money into Visa :p


but i do have a huge chunk in etfc. it's an awesome hold

[Jonydakiller]

Originally posted by KaOsTiK
well..i'd rather put in all my money into Visa :p


but i do have a huge chunk in etfc. it's an awesome hold

haha...me 2...but we lost 10% because they didn't annouce the CEO last friday, and today they did, but gained like 2%...where did that 8% go?!...i guess 300 pts down on friday also in play...god bless etfc

[Synarchist]

wow aph.v went up reall gud

[bossxx]

I hope everyone had a good day today.

Holding:

LLEG was up 42% today but slid a little after lunch to finish up 6%. Still holding as thing one looks great. I'm guessing a lot of people took their profits. A lot of buying today at 18 which I believe is the new support for this one.

Watching:

FRGY up 7%

[McDick]

Originally posted by KaOsTiK
well..i'd rather put in all my money into Visa :p


but i do have a huge chunk in etfc. it's an awesome hold

You got into Visa IPO? How so?

[KaOsTiK]

Originally posted by McDick
You got into Visa IPO? How so?

re-read my post ;)

visa hasn't started trading yet.

[KaOsTiK]

i thought i'd do some digging..and i actually do have a resource that can hookup visa shares on the 'grey' market (premarket) @ 35 p/s guaranteed.


if any of you guys know high end brokers..hit them up and see if any of them can pull strings for you.

[sh0n]

Originally posted by Jonydakiller
Recommendation: put all your investment in ETFC and come back in a year, you will be glad!:D imo...

Am I missing something here?

ETFC as in Etrade?

It's almost at a 52 week low.

[KaOsTiK]

Originally posted by sh0n
Am I missing something here?

ETFC as in Etrade?

It's almost at a 52 week low.

:confused:

that's his point...
get in now for a bottom bounce



tom...feel free to pipe in with our plays today with etfc :D

[fa48]

Originally posted by KaOsTiK
i thought i'd do some digging..and i actually do have a resource that can hookup visa shares on the 'grey' market (premarket) @ 35 p/s guaranteed.


if any of you guys know high end brokers..hit them up and see if any of them can pull strings for you.


I can't seem to find anyone with that kinda hook up. You have someone in mind you can refer us to?

[fa48]

looking to play TER tommorow looks good in its sector

[KaOsTiK]

Originally posted by fa48
I can't seem to find anyone with that kinda hook up. You have someone in mind you can refer us to?

sure thing, pm me your first and last name, and daytime phone number.

i'll pass your contact on to my contact...that way you can deal directly with the broker.

[Mananetwork]

STEN you tease!! I should of held onto you longer .. Bought yesturday when I saw the news. Made a good amount, sold it, re bought it low and sold again..
No action in the morning till now .. GRR!! could of made myself somemore, oh well

[bossxx]

Originally posted by redliine
I hope everyone had a good day today.

Holding:

LLEG was up 42% today but slid a little after lunch to finish up 6%. Still holding as thing one looks great. I'm guessing a lot of people took their profits. A lot of buying today at 18 which I believe is the new support for this one.

Watching:

FRGY up 7%

Today:

Holding: LLEG up 31% :D
Watching: FRGY up 32% (wish I bought)..

[fa48]

Originally posted by redliine
Today:

Holding: LLEG up 31% :D
Watching: FRGY up 32% (wish I bought)..


Good picks wondering if you ever have problem selling OTC at prices you want?

[Mananetwork]

Originally posted by fa48
Good picks wondering if you ever have problem selling OTC at prices you want?

Just make sure they have good volume trading and it shouldn't be a problem.

[bossxx]

Originally posted by fa48
Good picks wondering if you ever have problem selling OTC at prices you want?

Depends what i'm trying to do.

Usually not tho. I am forcing myself to make more market orders these days but I find I get shafted once in a while. Like if the stock is pretty volatile but on an uptrend I make a market order and it will fill on the bottom dip and shit like that. Even if I have RT quotes it seems to do this once in a while.

What I do mostly is setup a sell stop price so if it hits, it hits and I don't really have to worry about it. But then you get probs like it goes like .002 away from your target price and then it dips.. that sucks.

Is this what you're talking about? or what? and yea like mananetwork mentioned, it's important a stock has steady volume so that your order gets filled.

I hope you guys are watching LLEG and FRGY throughout this week and the rest of the month. Should be a good ride.

[bossxx]

LLEG up 14% already today.

[Mananetwork]

^^ Good stuff. I don't have a good trade price to buy sub penny stocks :(


I hope everyone put there money into OIL today. I was watching the news last night and said oil is hitting new prices. I found a good stock this morning and put money into it.. Wow thank you SOIGF - up to 59%. sold at 1.95, that should be peak price

[GoGOgo]

Damn.. I am new to this and for sure will watch this thread often.

An newbie Q and thank you for helping in advance. What do you use for trading and why? E-Trade?

[bossxx]

Holding LLEG up 29% today.


I'm up 59% on this one.. still holding.

[rb]

I dont know why but i have not really checked out this thread until now. Some good tips in here. Will def look into buying into ETFC.

Here's one that i'm tempted to buy into.
http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=sno.v

[Jonydakiller]

GO US ECONOMY!!!
I WANT TO LOSE MONEY!!:2finger:

[bossxx]

^ everyone is leaving the big boards and investing in pennies!

[SiRV]

Originally posted by GoGOgo
Damn.. I am new to this and for sure will watch this thread often.

An newbie Q and thank you for helping in advance. What do you use for trading and why? E-Trade?

another nub question.. but how much does it cost per trade? is there a certain percentage of your money that goes towards making the trade? or is it just a flat fee?

[bossxx]

Originally posted by GoGOgo
Damn.. I am new to this and for sure will watch this thread often.

An newbie Q and thank you for helping in advance. What do you use for trading and why? E-Trade?

I use credentialdirect.com. I chose this because my bank (vancity) is affiliated with it. Since I have been trading for sometime I am thinking about jumping ship but I honestly haven't had the time to research the brokerages out there. I pay a flat rate of $19 per trade and if I trade more than 25 trades per quarter it price gets cut in half if I consistantly do this but I am not that active anyway.. (i've made 15 trades this year)

There are a few posts in this thread about brokerages, just do your research.

I wish we had an investment forum.

[chun]

^ Even better question...

Are there any investment forums that you guys frequent?

[bossxx]

www.investorshub.com !!!!!!!!!

I am an addicttt

[Mananetwork]

Etrade is super cheap this morning.. before opening it's at 3.58 .. pick up for a quick sell

[Mananetwork]

whoever bought in at 3.5, Thumbs up to you!

[Mananetwork]

Redliine, going strong, good job on LLEG +14%

[bossxx]

Yep. looking for .0065's at next resistance point. Once we knock out those hopefully pennies come. This could be a longer hold for me.

I am adding more @ .003

EDIT: a few people selling here haha i don't blame them cuz most bought at the high teens and are looking to make a decent profit. No problem with that I guess!

EDIT: LLEG up 25%

Im up 106% since last friday when I bought.

[Mananetwork]

SRCH has a good chart. Now sure how this spike is going to play iin today or even the long term.

[Jonydakiller]

Originally posted by Mananetwork
Etrade is super cheap this morning.. before opening it's at 3.58 .. pick up for a quick sell
good job on picking that up for cheap, i didn't know it will dip that low, i'm long on this one, averaged down couple times, just gonna sit on the sideline for now

[fa48]

Redline, you made me about 3,000 on LLEG,

Thanks

[Mananetwork]

E-trade is dumping again.. If you sold nice and high.. it's going to be time to pick it up again .. maybe not today, but monday!

[bossxx]

Up 118% on LLEG since I bought last friday..

ok i'll stop with the updates haha.

[Gt-R R34]

anyone shorting??

Good money to be made!

[willcls]

Originally posted by Gt-R R34
anyone shorting??

Good money to be made!

ya i have short positions in gold and oil stocks/etfs
also index puts
oil is going to roll over hard!
i entered the oil shorts yesterday and made an early call on gold short couple days before that but overall im happy with how im positioned right now


some of you guys are going to get super burned from playing stupid penny stocks, they are the worst investments ever. i dont even look at stocks under $10

[McDick]

Originally posted by willcls
ya i have short positions in gold and oil stocks/etfs
also index puts
oil is going to roll over hard!
i entered the oil shorts yesterday and made an early call on gold short couple days before that but overall im happy with how im positioned right now


some of you guys are going to get super burned from playing stupid penny stocks, they are the worst investments ever. i dont even look at stocks under $10

I agreed with you about the penny stock comment.
Some of the stocks that recommends here (for example "MCEL" found in page 15 of this thread), .. it was down nearly 60% (from 0.27 to 0.16) in a week after the guy said he will hold for couple months. Good luck to him! I never looked at stocks that are valued under $15-20.

Oil/gold might have a pullback in coming week. It was due for a pullback. However, overall trend is heading up as US economy is going into a deeper hole. Investor is buying oil and gold.
Just a side note, lots of shorts are shorting oil at $100, and now shorts are covering, that's why we will see a sharp raise from $100 to $105 in a day.

I am guessing the stock market will be in a much better shape in April. I would recommend to buy "GS" and Visa IPO in the coming future.

I am currently holding:
MDR (largest position of the total investment)
FWLT
FLR
GG
MA

Looking to buy in the near future:
AAPL
GS
C
RIMM

[l4d2_sarge]

somewhat agree. Some of the stuff recommended here is garbage. For me anything around the $1 range is a gamble. However I have had to be more lenient on that the past 2 months, as unlike large cap stocks (AAPL, RIMM etc. which I am also very long on) the cheaper stocks don't tend to follow the overall market. I am very sure any of the general casual long term investors out there are in the red so far this year. If you are a serious investor and are out to make money you can't miss out on opportunities even in a bear market. Harder to find but they are still out there.

Originally posted by McDick
I agreed with you about the penny stock comment.
Some of the stocks that recommends here (for example "MCEL" found in page 15 of this thread), .. it was down nearly 60% (from 0.27 to 0.16) in a week after the guy said he will hold for couple months. Good luck to him! I never looked at stocks that are valued under $15-20.

Oil/gold might have a pullback in coming week. It was due for a pullback. However, overall trend is heading up as US economy is going into a deeper hole. Investor is buying oil and gold.
Just a side note, lots of shorts are shorting oil at $100, and now shorts are covering, that's why we will see a sharp raise from $100 to $105 in a day.

I am guessing the stock market will be in a much better shape in April. I would recommend to buy "GS" and Visa IPO in the coming future.

I am currently holding:
MDR (largest position of the total investment)
FWLT
FLR
GG
MA

Looking to buy in the near future:
AAPL
GS
C
RIMM

[rb]

I wouldn't be suprised if there are pump and dumpers in this thread hah. This thread is simply more for day traders looking for the quick flip.

[l4d2_sarge]

Originally posted by McDick
I agreed with you about the penny stock comment.
Some of the stocks that recommends here (for example "MCEL" found in page 15 of this thread), .. it was down nearly 60% (from 0.27 to 0.16) in a week after the guy said he will hold for couple months. Good luck to him! I never looked at stocks that are valued under $15-20.


I mentioned long ago when they were first discussing having an investment area it could be a dangerous idea. As you can see there are a lot of new investors here, for all we know someone could have cleaned out a good chunk of their bank account after reading that post. Either have it closely moderated or make it very well known there are a lot of spec. plays and only invest what you can afford to lose. Something along those lines.

[KaOsTiK]

i agree with you guys too...penny stocks are risky. i dunno about anybody else, but i do know that in ALL of my posts i point it out that you should be doing your own dd before investing.

i have info on mcel which is why i'm riding it. i doubt there are any pump and dumpers in here because this isn't a very active thread. pump and dumpers usually reside on stock forums.

i agree that there should be a disclaimer on this thread, but then again...anybody stupid enough to blindly trust info they read in a forum is setting themselves up to get burned.

excellent guideline to live by when you invest (amongst many others)

plays and only invest what you can afford to lose.

[willcls]

we are in full blown recession in the US which will spill over to the rest of the world.
recession= low demand for everything! how are you going to buy gold when you're unemployed?
sure long term gold will probably hit $2-4000/oz. but you're not gonna like how it gets there with all the inflation. oil inventories have been building up for a couple weeks now.. then opec comes out and says they will maintain output and the price of oil doesn't move?? it's already priced in and oil is going to fall hard.

i know some of you believe that certain sectors or stocks will survive..but reality is that 90% of everything goes down in a recession
even agricultural exports right now is on a freakin rip but will probably fall with everything else

once things start to go down there will be margin calls and people need to shore up capital... they are going to sell their winners to do so. that is why you are going to see good stocks and sectors go down the toilet with everything else that is when the snowballin begins

Mcdick:get out of everything dude... cash is king MDR is making lower lows and lower highs, AAPL is going to below $100!!!!fuxors were all fucked, even tho im shorting everything i hate to see ppl lose money

so join in the fun and start shorting commodities! the most ripest short candidate i can find at least

[willcls]

the pullback in commodities will not be short lived my friends. the financial markets are getting fucked up. the japanese yen and swiss franc have been on a rip with the carry trade unwinding,all that cheap money coming out of japan all these years and we havent even heard from any japanese banks about holding any of that garbage subprime mortgage debt ( the country with the easiest available access to capital and we should believe they dont hold any of that garbage debt? i dont think so) maybe BOJ will make interest rates freaking 0%
disclosure:

canadian holdings: hed.to, hgd.to, hxd.to
us holdings: dug , sds, ewv, fxp, also front month put options on sp500 and bovespa etf (ewz)

longterm: im hoarding renminbi, ahahah i feel so sketchy buying the hard currency every couple weeks in small amounts

[McDick]

Originally posted by willcls
we are in full blown recession in the US which will spill over to the rest of the world.
recession= low demand for everything! how are you going to buy gold when you're unemployed?
sure long term gold will probably hit $2-4000/oz. but you're not gonna like how it gets there with all the inflation. oil inventories have been building up for a couple weeks now.. then opec comes out and says they will maintain output and the price of oil doesn't move?? it's already priced in and oil is going to fall hard.

i know some of you believe that certain sectors or stocks will survive..but reality is that 90% of everything goes down in a recession
even agricultural exports right now is on a freakin rip but will probably fall with everything else

once things start to go down there will be margin calls and people need to shore up capital... they are going to sell their winners to do so. that is why you are going to see good stocks and sectors go down the toilet with everything else that is when the snowballin begins

Mcdick:get out of everything dude... cash is king MDR is making lower lows and lower highs, AAPL is going to below $100!!!!fuxors were all fucked, even tho im shorting everything i hate to see ppl lose money

so join in the fun and start shorting commodities! the most ripest short candidate i can find at least

I agreed with you.
I do sell my stocks when the market looks ugly. Back in January, I did make a bad trade with Apple. I bought it at $185, went up to $200 quickly, and sold at a lost at $175. I am not stupid enough to be a bagholder and hope for a bounce.

As of MDR, I got in 2.5 years ago, therefore I don't need to sell it since I got in really cheap! MDR just reported positive (revenue and profit raising) earning and increasing of backlog of over $10 Billion dollar! Citigroup upgraded MDR with price target of $78.50. With $10 Billion backlog, what can go wrong?!? I am waiting for the market to recover a bit (assumed 4Q in 2008), this can be hitting $70 by the end of the year!

As of MA, FWLT, FLR.. pretty safe as I got in cheap in early 2007.
Those are my long term investment which I don't even care their daily movement.

As of now, I have a chunk of money sitting on the sideline ready to go back into the market for bargain hunting.

VISA and GS are my next target. I might use my margin account on VISA (which will be traded in mid-March).

[Gt-R R34]

Good to see all sorts of different traders here.

Different rides for different people.

There's Long - Mid - Short Term Traders here and the day traders.

Stocks you all recommend needs it's own DD. You can't say penny stocks are a the worst investment ever, or large caps are the best. It's how you play the stocks in the market is how you make money.

Personally, I play only stocks under 1$. Day trading volume swings has made me lots of money. It's not for everyone, nor should it be.

If your playing life-long term that will see you make your retirement goals, see a financial advisor and play the market long term, never worry bout the ups and downs from the stock market (it's as guranteeed as taxes and death.) and always cost average.

[bossxx]

^ good post.

Everyone trades differently. I trade short term. That doesn't make me a pumper or crazy because a lot of my holdings are nder $2. I held APWR last month and it was $18. The fact is, there is a recession, and a lot of big board stocks are shitting the bed. This is no surprise. So then you have penny stocks that, like mentioned earlier, generally do not go with the flow of how the market condtions are. This is where (in my own opinion) the greatest areas of success at this point in time.

I am learning as I go but I have sneaked into a swing trade mindset. I hope people here do not take my advice too seriously because everyone needs to do their own DD. Generally I do not offer advice. I just holler how well im doing or how shitty i've done. ie lleg and frgy on rallies.

[vl_86]

Has anyone looked at the balance sheet for visa?
why are half their assets goodwill??

So whats everyones game plan for the visa IPO?
I'm probably gonna buy in and dump it within the week when the stock is bid up, then get back in a couple of week/months when the stock settles back down

[Scoobysnax]

The market has really gone to shit. Agree with willcls. Stay on the sidelines with cash or short the fuck out of commodities and high p/e stocks (Solar, agriculture, china stocks).

[Cloudy_Hair]

anyone looking at TMA?

one mortgage company down.

[Jonydakiller]

^ LOL, That must be painful, but they knew it's coming, with mortage and housing problem that US is in, ice cold market.

On the side note, i guess i am selling DISK tomorrow, don't want to end up with nothing, dammmmm......

[willcls]

good die TMA, last year they were a 4 billion dollar market cap company now they cant even meet a 28 mil margin call lol going to zero

next up is CFC which will also go to zero lol i feel bad for the CEO of CFC angelo mozillo who is being scapegoated by congress for this whole mortgage mess. he sold a fuck ton of shares before the collapse, not his fault for being smart.

[willcls]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJ_qK4g6ntM
heheh have a good laugh

[vl_86]

ouch, bad entry time to short stock

federal reserve just pumped in 200 billion to help the financial markets

[willcls]

Originally posted by vl_86
ouch, bad entry time to short stock

federal reserve just pumped in 200 billion to help the financial markets

translation: bernanke decides that the federal reserve will trade banks, brokers, mortgage lenders their crappy(lol still rated AAA) mortgaged backed debt paper for govt back treasuries for 28 days..oh ya and at the same time there is a housing crash..reallllll good trade off... if your one of those stupid companies that took on way to much risk on their balance sheets cause no one else wants this garbage since there is no market for it. todays move was just a short covering inspired by the fed. will probably do it again next week at the FOMC meeting. trend is still down in the grand scheme of things.foreclosures and deliquencies payments still going on, and people dip in to their savings and mutual funds(which consist of stocks) during rough times thats just the way it is.
it's great that bernanke ignores energy and food prices when calculating inflation( we all know how fast oil has risen, and a bag of flour was $5 last year and $10 this year) and keeps on increasing the money supply but it's ok for the average american if they only buy american goods and no imports. at this rate 10 yrs from now america will have a choice of buying a $130,000 bmw 3 series or a $90,000 camry or $8000 chinese equivalent. thats right gm and ford will go out of business unless the govt bails them out, they also bundled and sold a fuck load of unsecured debt for car loans backed on "stated income". lol time to get in on the repo business, say what? $200 for 30 min repo job.

sidenote: the options activity in bear sterns today was really crazy. over 50,000 march 30 puts traded. bear last traded at $64. 1 of 2 reasons for this activity. people expect it to drop over 50% in a week and somebody wants to get out or there is an unbelieveably upside move coming in the financial sector and investors have hedged themselves for a slight chance of a crash in which case they can load up on the underlying asset big time.

[Feint*]

WINNING BRANDS CORP(Other OTC: WNBD.PK)

Last Trade: 0.0275
Trade Time: 3:59PM ET
Change: 0.0095 (52.78%)

Just got their contract with WalMart, could be an interesting one.

[McDick]

Originally posted by willcls

sidenote: the options activity in bear sterns today was really crazy. over 50,000 march 30 puts traded. bear last traded at $64. 1 of 2 reasons for this activity. people expect it to drop over 50% in a week and somebody wants to get out or there is an unbelieveably upside move coming in the financial sector and investors have hedged themselves for a slight chance of a crash in which case they can load up on the underlying asset big time.

OR Huge Terrorist Attack similar to 9-11. Terrorists are betting that the market will crash. That's what happened during 9-11 terrorist attack. Terrorist bought huge amount of put option on airline companies. They are making billions from the 9-11 terrorist attack.

[Scoobysnax]

lol bsc went to the shitter. Should have bought a few of those march 30 puts like everyone else..

[willcls]

wow i feel like throwing up i was about to buy puts yesterday near the close but didnt get filled...i think i wanna cry

anyways...bear stern will probably get taken over and then let the layoffs begin! woohoo

im glad gold finally got to $1000 so they can print it in the newspaper and put it on the front page of magazines.... im not looking for a crash but just a sharp correction

[willcls]

last time i saw that kind of options activity was in august when CFC had a gajillion puts trading when it was in the $30 dollarish range... now its like a $5 stock
lol

[chun]

Keep your eye on MXD.V!

[McDick]

OMG.. Bear Stearns sold for $2/share! That's a gift to JP Morgan.

Seeing it from $60 to $2 in two trading trades. I can't believe it. I bet tons of investors are going bankrupt on Monday Morning. OUCH!

I am guessing this sub-prime crap is very near the bottom. At least, you can't really get worst than what we expected as Bear Stearns sold for $2 (more like bankrupt).

I am looking for an entry point to buy into the market this coming week.

[Cloudy_Hair]

this is insane....Bear Stearns for $236 million... simply outrageous!

[willcls]

you're surprised? bear stern will not be the only one.
don't you realize the FED is in panic mode now? if you call $2 a share a rescue then it is what it is. there is rumors of Dollar intervention this week as well on top of quadruple witching week lol and fed will cut discount rate by 1% point

[willcls]

this is not insane, bear was leveraged something like 30:1 and they arent the only ones sad to say.

start buying puts and shorting Lehman brothers cause they are next! LEH

this is the trade of a lifetime, they are just as leveraged as bear

[Cloudy_Hair]

Do you think all the investmnet bank are gonna fall hard next week then? GS, LEH, MER etc

[willcls]

what do you think? they all report earnings this week...i dont think your going to hear on the conference call
" great quarter guys keep up the good work" ... the whole banking industry will be going down for the rest of the year at least, stop trying to pick a bottom in this sector; you're just riding the slope of hope down.

the recession hasnt even begun ( on a textbook definition basis) and the fed is using all of its firepower at the beginning and is pretty clear that they are making snap decisions as they go along on a daily basis

they lowered the discount window to banks on a SUNDAY?! they couldn't wait 2 days when they announce fed fund rate? which will probably be 1% cut which is pretty much priced in and wont surprise anyone and any expected pop in the market will be undermined

[Scoobysnax]

^^ This is a guy who knows what he's talking about. The feds already blew all their bullets and the market is still going in a downward spiral. With more bad economic data coming, along with shitty earnings for the financial sector, don't see how the market can recover anytime soon.

LEH will get killed in the a.m along with the other brokerages. If it hasn't fall 30% in value, I would definitely buy puts on it.

[Boostaholic]

I've just started to look into the investment world. I've noticed a lot of medium to expensive stocks had a huge drop in price in the past few months, all in the dec - feb period of time. What caused it?

[McDick]

Originally posted by Boostaholic
I've just started to look into the investment world. I've noticed a lot of medium to expensive stocks had a huge drop in price in the past few months, all in the dec - feb period of time. What caused it?

Sub-prime crises! I hope you read the news during the past few month.

[McDick]

I think GS is the only one that will survive.
I do believe LEH is next in line.

More rate cuts are coming, I expected it will hit 2% by summer. Therefore, I am buying GG today/tomorrow!

US is in recession, no doubt about that. Seriously, I think it's better to let the market fall rather than FED coming in "trying" to help out. FED are killing investors slowly. I would let the market crashes and recovers by itself.

I feel sad for investors who lost everything in BSC. Their retirement funds just went down the drain. I wonder how that going to help US to recover. It will just getting a lot worst.

[Gt-R R34]

Originally posted by McDick
I think GS is the only one that will survive.
I do believe LEH is next in line.

More rate cuts are coming, I expected it will hit 2% by summer. Therefore, I am buying GG today/tomorrow!

US is in recession, no doubt about that. Seriously, I think it's better to let the market fall rather than FED coming in "trying" to help out. FED are killing investors slowly. I would let the market crashes and recovers by itself.

I feel sad for investors who lost everything in BSC. Their retirement funds just went down the drain. I wonder how that going to help US to recover. It will just getting a lot worst.

jst think of the 14,000 employee's whos retirement fund is in BSC stocks.

Can't let the market crash, because this sub-prime mortgage isn't 1 company or a day thing, If they do it's notgonna be a great depression, but ithink they worried that they might hit that far down as the 70's fuel crisis recession.

Recession as will said is inevitable.

[chun]

LEH down 30%, hope some of y'all got in the short!

[97ITR]

It appears the feds are delaying the inevitable depression. What they're doing now is just merely going to drive up inflation which, in turn, will cause even more pain down the road.

[willcls]

bout a few puts on LEH first thing in the morning this shit is making me a nervous wreck the implied volatility is in the thousands for the front month
will see how it plays out

[willcls]

weeee everything is red
http://finance.yahoo.com/actives?e=us

[Scoobysnax]

^^ Which puts did you buy? April $10 puts? Their conference call tomorrow should be interesting to hear.. Probably more BS like what Bears CEO said last week.. "liquidity is fine"..

[willcls]

apr $30 puts

[Gt-R R34]

sold off a lot of my non-core holdings. I can't stress enough rite now, holding on to cash!

Or...if it was 2 months ago..buy futures in GOLD/SILVER/RY LOL

[Scoobysnax]

LEH is a huge roller coaster ride. From 20 to 30 in a less than 2 hrs.. The people holding that stock overnight really have balls..

[Jonydakiller]

So i am in TMA for this week, it's holding quite nice with the market bouncing up and down, anyone else joined ??

[Meowjin]

everyone is going to go broke.

[wouwou]

Originally posted by MajinHurricane
everyone is going to go broke. they will be fine slong as they are not doing margins.

Borrowing to invest is stupid to begin with, especially if you have no means to cover it.

the market will recover eventually, most investors will lose the time value of their money, and feel crappy for a few years.

That's why educated investors spread the cost of investment instead of doing it in one shot.

[RFlush]

FMCN - Focus Media. Dropped 27% yesterday to 32.19. Brokers are estimating it bounce back to 60-80 but will probably hit $50 tomorrow.

[willcls]

Originally posted by Scoobysnax
LEH is a huge roller coaster ride. From 20 to 30 in a less than 2 hrs.. The people holding that stock overnight really have balls..
not me i got out intraday
i dont want to hold before the fed announcement:high:

[Cloudy_Hair]

market turn around? apple break out? waht do you guys think

[Jonydakiller]

TMA is up 32% today, nice nice :)
One thing i was looking at is BSC, it went over $7 today earlier, must be nice if you are a daytrader with guts, coulda got some at 2.xx...dam

[Mananetwork]

Originally posted by Cloudy_Hair
market turn around? apple break out? waht do you guys think

The way I see it is, Monday's opener are usually the worst! Tuesday's ends up being a recovery. The rest of the week will be stagged till Friday.

[Mananetwork]

Originally posted by Jonydakiller
TMA is up 32% today, nice nice :)
One thing i was looking at is BSC, it went over $7 today earlier, must be nice if you are a daytrader with guts, coulda got some at 2.xx...dam

I was slowly following TMA, but because of the market I haven't invested anything right now. I'm saving it for Visa.
Ya, but unless you bought the day before you've made nothing so far

[wouwou]

and I wouldnt touch BSC @ 7ish

I was planning to get in on C yesterday, but my order wasnt filled

THERE GOES MY 46" FLAT SCREEN TV

[McDick]

Originally posted by Cloudy_Hair
market turn around? apple break out? waht do you guys think

US is not out of the wood yet.
US market will test new low before starting to recover in the summer. It's way too early to tell that the worst is over.

Apple is good stock to buy at this level. Their support level is around $119.

I am betting gold will rebound next week. I just got "GG" today after gold stocks got beaten up this week. I don't see why gold is not going to trade any higher especially when interest rate cut another 1% in the past 3 days.

I got really good profit on GS and LEH over the past 2 days. So, I am throwing my profits on GG.
In this market, just do the opposite on what most traders think.

I am taking a wild guess to sell LEH, GS, BCS after today. Today's action sounds like we have bottomed which I don't believed so soon yet~

[bossxx]

Originally posted by Cloudy_Hair
market turn around? apple break out? waht do you guys think

I like Apple right now. I would buy if I didn't have my cash tied up in other holdings.

GL

[willcls]

imo now is not the time to be buying precious metal stocks. US dollar looks like it wants to stop the bleeding at least for a bit. euro down, swiss franc down, yen down, gold down, silver down, platinum down, palladium down. everything is kinda pointing to a relative top for the short term.the line of least resistance for precious metal producers are down.

anyways be nimble and stay disciplined guys cause one thing we can count on to continue is the volatility. for those of you who buy and hold/longterm investors, now isnt a bad time to review your portfolio maybe trim a few losers/lock in profits here and there and sell into this strength and stay safe in cash till this blows over. dont get excited over these 400 point up days cause they mean shit in the long run. the biggest one day gains are usually experienced during bear markets just like after the tech bubble. seems like the market just takes 1 step forward and 3 steps back.. sigh

[l4d2_sarge]

who is buying V this am?

[Mananetwork]

Originally posted by MASTER WA
who is buying V this am?

:D

[l4d2_sarge]

what did you set your limit price at?

[Mananetwork]

Originally posted by MASTER WA
what did you set your limit price at?

Is your ticker messed up too? I'm getting buys for 65 and asking 250 with only 1000 shares traded.
Set my limit to 50, but contemplating at maybe trying this hot potato tomorrow.

[willcls]

bid ask around $61
only 300 shares traded so far

[Mananetwork]

Originally posted by willcls
bid ask around $61
only 300 shares traded so far

With a spread so close, the stock should be moving! Still dead

[wouwou]

God I need more cash

I really wanted to get in on C right now

[bossxx]

^ u mean V? lol

[Jonydakiller]

OMG, TMA dropped, going south for sure, money gone to "long-term investment" again, arrrhhhhh....

[wouwou]

Originally posted by redliine
^ u mean V? lol V is overrated for the moment

It is a good stock, but the demand is just too much.

Citigroup, on the other hand, is pretty much at the bottom unless some major financial institution goes south, AGAIN.

It dropped only 1% today. I would have made a 3% return in 2 days if I got my order through.

I was greedy:(

[bossxx]

That sucks man.

I am not into investing in any big board stocks at the moment. I will watch you guys from the sidelines as I do my penny thing for now.

For me, 3% doesn't even cover the cost to make the trade lol

[Boostaholic]

with all the markets crashing down for the past few months, isn't it better to stay away from investing for a while?

[willcls]

Originally posted by willcls
the pullback in commodities will not be short lived my friends. the financial markets are getting fucked up. the japanese yen and swiss franc have been on a rip with the carry trade unwinding,all that cheap money coming out of japan all these years and we havent even heard from any japanese banks about holding any of that garbage subprime mortgage debt ( the country with the easiest available access to capital and we should believe they dont hold any of that garbage debt? i dont think so) maybe BOJ will make interest rates freaking 0%
disclosure:

canadian holdings: hed.to, hgd.to, hxd.to
us holdings: dug , sds, ewv, fxp, also front month put options on sp500 and bovespa etf (ewz)

longterm: im hoarding renminbi, ahahah i feel so sketchy buying the hard currency every couple weeks in small amounts

took profits and closed all positions this morning on commmodity related shorts :p

[wouwou]

Originally posted by willcls
took profits and closed all positions this morning on commmodity related shorts :p gratz:D

now long them for 3 months

[Scoobysnax]

So how much did everyone made on V so far :D

[vl_86]

gah i was so edgy to get in today

still waiting for the pullback!

[Narayan]

I got in on V at $58 a share... missed the IPO but what can you do...

It closed at 64.35 today so I can’t complain!

And to the poster who said V is over rated... why are you thinking that? Investors are valuing the stock at around 70-80$

[wouwou]

Originally posted by Narayan
I got in on V at $58 a share... missed the IPO but what can you do...

It closed at 64.35 today so I can’t complain!

And to the poster who said V is over rated... why are you thinking that? Investors are valuing the stock at around 70-80$ in the long run.

V is a really good stock but the current hype and the market condition does not promise a solid 70.

[McDick]

Originally posted by willcls
took profits and closed all positions this morning on commmodity related shorts :p

you still shorting Gold and Oil? or you covered the short position today?

I am betting big on Gold will rebound and hit new high before first week of April.

[wouwou]

Originally posted by McDick
you still shorting Gold and Oil? or you covered the short position today?

I am betting big on Gold will rebound and hit new high before first week of April. A week after Easter..?

I seriously doubt that, especially with investors' confidence going back up right now.

[willcls]

Originally posted by McDick
you still shorting Gold and Oil? or you covered the short position today?

I am betting big on Gold will rebound and hit new high before first week of April.

took profits this morning, made about 10-15% on each position for holding about a week

the fundamentals for precious metals/ commodities are very sound in the medium and long term.however the technicals are signalling an overbought situation last week which i capitalized on. building a heavy long position last week would have made me nervous as hell but after the latest fall in commodities i would feel more comfortable nibling here and there to build long positions but i wouldnt hold my breath or try to be a hero here

i'll share some charts with u guys
i use stockcharts.com religiously...

these are 2xshort related etfs:

http://stockcharts.com/charts/candleglance.php?HED.TO,HEU.TO,HGD.TO,HGU.TO,HXD.T O,HXU.TO,HFD.TO,HFU.TO,hou.to,hnd.to|B|P14,3,3

major markets with breath indicators:

http://stockcharts.com/charts/candleglance.php?$VIX,$CPC,$TSE,$SPX,$XAX,$TRINQ,$ COMPQ,$NYA,$INDU,$TRIN|B|P14,3,3

precious metal stocks( only the big ones):

http://stockcharts.com/charts/candleglance.php?$XAU,NEM,ASA,ABX,aem,PAAS,KGC,SSR I,GG,SLW|B|P14,3,3

some other stocks i follow (mostly agri business related):
http://stockcharts.com/charts/candleglance.php?VIP,POT,AGU,TNH,MON,SYT,MOS,FTI,M A,chn|B|P14,3,3

currency etfs:
http://stockcharts.com/charts/candleglance.php?FXC,FXE,FXB,FXY,FXA,FXM,FXS,FXF,U UP,$IRX|B|P14,3,3

[Mananetwork]

Anybody check out BSC this morning? :lol
Would of been a great investment :D

[wouwou]

Anybody check out BSC this morning? :lol
Would of been a great investment :D

only if you are the ones getting in at $6.

For those poor guys with a strong position at $30, they are still fucked

[Feint*]

Most stocks are up 2-6% at least today in light of BSC's new bid at $10... is everyone sleeping in? :) Quiet around here

[wouwou]

Most stocks are up 2-6% at least today in light of BSC's new bid at $10... is everyone sleeping in? :) Quiet around here

I think people are debating whether to cash out:D

[jdmsai]

Got out of AAPL... the volume is so low.. not sure if the gain will hold.

Thinking of picking up some V on this pullback? what ya guys think? V @ $55 - $60

[Narayan]

Got out of AAPL... the volume is so low.. not sure if the gain will hold.

Thinking of picking up some V on this pullback? what ya guys think? V @ $55 - $60

If you can get in on V around the 55-58 range i would jump all over it... its having a rough day today but its also only been on the market for 3 whole days.

with in 2 months i bet it will be around 70-80 range...

[Mananetwork]

Got out of AAPL... the volume is so low.. not sure if the gain will hold.

Thinking of picking up some V on this pullback? what ya guys think? V @ $55 - $60

It's bounching around 60 -/+ .5 .. might hold.. I bought more at 60

[Cloudy_Hair]

^the sell off volume is not extremely high compared to the mad buying the past 3 days..

I bought some at 60 too XD


edit: and 1 min after i buy, 59.90 breaks thru ... awesome

[Narayan]

So whats your plans for the V stock? make a quick buck? holding for months? years?

I'm betting it will rally tomorrow

[Mananetwork]

So whats your plans for the V stock? make a quick buck? holding for months? years?

I'm betting it will rally tomorrow


IMO, I think all the people who bought in super early last week are selling off some of their shares (banks mostly). For me this is a super long hold.. If I double up in a year or a couple months, i'll sell half and leave the rest to accumulate for another couple years

[Scoobysnax]

It's a daytraders market. I'm in and out of most of my stocks throughout the day. V, MF, NCC, POT. Made some quick cash when BSC delayed opened and it flew to 13ish within a hour lol. I bought V at the close again, hopefully it'll rally.

[Mananetwork]

So the big question now is, what does JPMorgen have planed for Bear? I'm going to keep a good close eye on them and do some research, 10 bucks for this stock is still a steal and the company has been around for ages!

[willcls]

putting some cash to work here
buying short etf's SKF and HFD.TO and FXP
basically shorting financials and china

[wouwou]

putting some cash to work here
buying short etf's SKF and HFD.TO and FXP
basically shorting financials and china

same here

Got out of C yesterday, and put like crazy

46%:haha:

[wouwou]

After reading through the market data today, I will most likely sell off the puts tomorrow or by Friday.

[willcls]

big put action again in LEH and MER
lehman brothers and merril lynch

just FYI

[wouwou]

big put action again in LEH and MER
lehman brothers and merril lynch

just FYI

I realize that, but my put is Apr 08

and 48% is good enough for me atm;)

[Narayan]

Wow check out that volume

[Synarchist]

whats put? how do i do that too?

[wouwou]

whats put? how do i do that too?

if you don't know what that is, my advice is to not do anything with that.

options have a bigger risk than owning shares.

[McDick]

http://biz.yahoo.com/opt/education.html

All you need to know about Options.. it's called "Options 101" for newbie.. hhahahhaha!
Don't do it if you don't even have a clue on what's "CALL" and "PUT" options are.

[wouwou]

Got out of CPA.X at 2.15, very happy right now.

Anyone has potential stocks on their watchlists that they want to share?

[McDick]

big put action again in LEH and MER
lehman brothers and merril lynch

just FYI

I am just curious, how do you know that? Is that a site to keep track of the call/put options action daily?

[Gt-R R34]

Got out of CPA.X at 2.15, very happy right now.

Anyone has potential stocks on their watchlists that they want to share?

What is your "range" or do you do micro/smalls. If so, i got some i'd share.

[willcls]

I am just curious, how do you know that? Is that a site to keep track of the call/put options action daily?

i get real time quotes from my platform but you can use yahoo finance
for delayed quotes

put in a symbol and get a quote. on the leftside there is a column with summary, options, historical prices etc

click on options
it will bring up an options chain with all the expiries and strikes and stuff open interest, volume

but it wont give u any greeks, no delta gamma rho or theta or i-vol

[KaOsTiK]

i get real time quotes from my platform but you can

what rt platform are you using? i use equityfeed and it runs shitty on my mac since i can't update the jave plugin to the most current. i use parallels to run windows and i can run equityfeed, but sometimes it gets boggy.

a friend suggested stockcharts.com but i haven't looked into it too much yet.

[bossxx]

^ stockcharts is very popular, I was thinking about using this platform.. have you checked out their website?

[bossxx]

Got out of CPA.X at 2.15, very happy right now.

Anyone has potential stocks on their watchlists that they want to share?

BMSN over the next month.

LLEG still chugging a long.. we are waiting on a PR from them to get approval of 100m financing.. the PR is on the horizon as fridays trading definately signalled something out of the ordinary (up 25%).

[willcls]

my platform is free from my broker (tradefreedom) they got bought out by scotiabank over the summer,$10 commision flat no minimum balance. its not the most advanced platform but is the best for it's price. if you are advanced you can open your broker account with tradestation or interactivebroker which have very advanced platforms with ability to program trade, write buy and sell scripts. these usually cost more for the bells and whistle tho through monthly subscription fees




stockcharts.com doesnt have a platform and is a subscription based service for real time charts. but you have to refresh teh page to get real time quotes or can set the explorer to auto refresh page

i just use my broker platform and free stuff from stockcharts.com
all the free stuff they offer at stockcharts.com is already above and beyond


what rt platform are you using? i use equityfeed and it runs shitty on my mac since i can't update the jave plugin to the most current. i use parallels to run windows and i can run equityfeed, but sometimes it gets boggy.

a friend suggested stockcharts.com but i haven't looked into it too much yet.

[willcls]

just to keep everyone updated

treasury secratary paulson let investors know that the days of investment banks and hedge funds using 30:1 leverage is over until some time next year and until then you can keep leveraging. also the fed will provide treasury bills for junk type bonds still labed AAA. paulson announced this on a FRIDAY after the close...(trying to screw some shorts i guess i dunno) , so banks dont have it so hard after all.

financials/ stocks going up and commodities going down is the trade the market is telling us to maneuver into.

gold contracts are rolling over into the next month. i'd like to see gold in the $900 to $800 range. probably a blessing to those that havent caught onto the goldbug wagon.

[McDick]

just to keep everyone updated

treasury secratary paulson let investors know that the days of investment banks and hedge funds using 30:1 leverage is over until some time next year and until then you can keep leveraging. also the fed will provide treasury bills for junk type bonds still labed AAA. paulson announced this on a FRIDAY after the close...(trying to screw some shorts i guess i dunno) , so banks dont have it so hard after all.

financials/ stocks going up and commodities going down is the trade the market is telling us to maneuver into.

gold contracts are rolling over into the next month. i'd like to see gold in the $900 to $800 range. probably a blessing to those that havent caught onto the goldbug wagon.

What do you think about GOLD in the long term (like in the next 3 months)???

I don't know about that paulson's plan... I think there might be selloff right after Friday tho.