[MegaHurtz]

As most in here probably know, I recently picked up a brand new 20d. Right now, I'm only shooting with the kit lens. What are some good lenses that I should be saving up for? I still haven't figured what would make a good selection of lenses, so please, offer your advice.

[Bonjour43MA]

shoot with the kit lens for bit longer, keep an eye on which focal lengths you use the most, then you look for lenses in that focal range that suits your style.

always hitting the 18mm side? you might want to try a wide angle lens

55mm? maybe something that goes to 70 or 80mm.

mostly below 55mm but above 18mm? find an "upgrade" to your kit lens.

I think that may be the best way to pick a good lens without too much confusion and wasted time/money.

The most COMMON setup I know is something wide (17-40, 18-55... etc) and something long (70-200, 85...etc). I think those 2 will cover pretty much everything you'll ever need.

cheers

[unit]

17-85 IS pretty common for a walkaround lens

[Pochacho]

24-70

24-105

[Mananetwork]

Originally posted by Pochacho
24-70

24-105
It depends on how much you wanan spend becuase both those lenses are $$$.

Tamron 28-75 F2.8 is a good lens to look at. Only 500bucks

[lowside67]

kit lens is 18 at its widest... if i wanted a wide angle, wouldnt buying a 17 or 16 or something not be enough of a difference to merit it?

[Gopher]

I was thinking the same thing, wouldn't you have to go down to like 14mm to really see a difference?

[WarCrab]

Everyone needs a EF 50mm 1.8 @ 100 bucks you can't go wrong

Tamron 28-75 F2.8 around 400
Canon 70-200 F4L around 800

Pretty much covers all focal ranagers unless u want to get into the ultra wide angle

Best bangs for the buck.. Both are super sharp and excellent qualuty lens..

[MegaHurtz]

^^ I was thinking about getting that lens, where can I get one locally? I'll pick one up tomorrow :p

I was thinking something with a good zoom too, what are opinions on this one? http://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?logon=&langid=EN&sku_id=0665000FS10009174&catid=

Are there any good alternatives to the EF-S 10-22mm? I saw some of Domani's shots with that lens and they were amazing. I think I would make great use of a wide angle like that.

[Bonjour43MA]

if you want to go wide

Sigma 12-24
Tokina 12-24
Canon 10-20
Sigma 10-20

x1.6 for your focal length and that's about right for wideangle stuff.

is 14mm the widest lens ever? In 35mm/Full Frame format, I mean.

[Senna4ever]

Doesn't Nikon have a 6mm?

A 35mm f1.7ish lens would approximate a 50mm lens on a 1.5x camera.

[laurencepak]

Voigtlander has a 12mm rectilinear lens



Nikon's 6mm is just a fisheye, which is something else.

apparently there is a big different between a 12mm and a 14mm lens.

http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/lenses/ultrawide.shtml

[Senna4ever]

^^^ great article! I want an Xpan so badly...

[lowside67]

Originally posted by Bonjour43MA
Canon 10-20Do you mean the 10-22?

Does anybody besides Jackson use this lens here?

I've been looking for a really good wide angle to shoot with and this seems to be the one to buy...

[Bonjour43MA]

yeah I think I meant 10-22

:D

[Meowjin]

Now that I have a 20d... I need some more lenses to go with it

I'm planning to buy a 50 mm f/1.8

but I need a decent zoom lens... And I have no idea what to buy.

Also for a good price.

[Bonjour43MA]

if you don't know what you need to buy, then go with one of those all-in-ones and shoot for awhile.

THEN you'll know exactly what to buy.

I'd say get the 17-85 IS for now and shoot with that for a bit, then take a look at how you use the focal range and go from there.

The 50mm is a good lens and it's cheap but I think you'll soon find that it's too long for indoor people shots. It's good for low-light stuff, though.

Hmm... didn't we have a similar thread like this already? lol

[Senna4ever]

An 18-200mm would be an excellent choice, IMHO.

What are you going to use the 50mm f1.8 for? If you're going to be shooting portraits or indoor portraits it is a great choice because with the 1.5x crop factor it becomes a 75mm equivalent lens. Other than that, I don't see the use for one. I have two 50mm lenses - one is a f1.7 and the other is a f3.5 macro - and I find I never use the f1.7 even though it is probably the sharpest lens I own.

[DARKSUN]

I say go for a 18-200, its the perfect all-in -one

Wide for party shots and it has enough reach for 90% of the shots needed. You can geta deal on the New Tamron XR DiII LD (won the new Tipa 2005 award) or get a Canon version.

IS is great to have as well, but if your steady, you can get away with having no IS under 200

[Jomo]

Use the kit lens, it's not as bad as people make it out to be. Why do you need more lenses, just because your one lens is lonely? Shoot with what you have, learn what you need.

[XtReMe9898]

I agree....

[Bonjour43MA]

oh I thought you only had the body.

if you have the kit lens then heck yeah, just keep it and use it for a bit longer until you know what focal lengths you like to use more often, then you pick something in that range.

[Meowjin]

Oh I need a zoom lens for sports.

[Bonjour43MA]

70-200 f4L is popular but you won't be able to shoot indoors with it.

anything indoors without strobes require at least a f2.8 lens and they're pricey.

so... it depneds on your budget i guess

[Meowjin]

bleh! This is an expensive hobby.

[Bonjour43MA]

it is

so you really have to see if it's worth it for you to get certain lenses.

you can always start out with a 70-300 lens that shouldn't cost more than 400 bucks or if you want a cheaper 70-200 f2.8 lens you can always checkout Sigma's version, as it is very good for the price as well.

and buy used, you'll save a ton of money that way.

[Rikaro]

Originally posted by DARKSUN
I say go for a 18-200, its the perfect all-in -one

Wide for party shots and it has enough reach for 90% of the shots needed. You can geta deal on the New Tamron XR DiII LD (won the new Tipa 2005 award) or get a Canon version.

IS is great to have as well, but if your steady, you can get away with having no IS under 200

18-200? there's no good lense for the canons with this range, not even the Tamron
infact there's none that is good at this range
even the 18-200 VR from nikkor is overrated. distortion, bad bokeh, and a slow zoom. It happens to be not that sharp as well.

[dub.dub]

Go used. Both of my lenses are 2nd hand and the condition has been great while saving me $ as well.

[Bonjour43MA]

Originally posted by Rikaro
18-200? there's no good lense for the canons with this range, not even the Tamron
infact there's none that is good at this range
even the 18-200 VR from nikkor is overrated. distortion, bad bokeh, and a slow zoom. It happens to be not that sharp as well.


the distortion is no worse than any other super-zooms. at 18mm it's quite bad but so is everything else out there.

bokeh... find me a consumer zoom lens that has good bokeh, please. it's not just the 18-200 VR.

slow zoom... again, find me a super zoom that is faster than this. at 200mm , f5.6 is acutally pretty good. With VR you get a couple more stops for handholdability.

Sharpness, the copy I tried was good, about the same as the 18-70 ,and that says a lot about it because the 18-70 is pretty good for a cheap zoom lens.

If you compare any of these lense with the pro ones (any Canon L lens or any Nikon ED lens) then sure it's not as good, but it also doesn't cost 1500 or 2000 bucks.

At $899 (it was $799 when announced but stupid Nikon jacked up the price), find me a lens that goes from 18 to 200, with VR and AF-S, and produces similar image quality.

The closest is the 17-85 IS and that thing is nowhere near as good as nikon's 18-200.

Overrated? Only beucase of the huge demand.

[Doc]

Hmmm....to combine these lens threads all into one or not.....that's the question....



~S

[Jomo]

We do consolidate a lot of threads around here, I dont think it'd hurt to have "The Lens Thread"

[dub.dub]

Go for it.

[Meowjin]

where can You find used?

[Bonjour43MA]

www.camerabuysell.com
www.craigslist.org
www.bccamera.com (buy/sell forum)

and if you don't mind buying things sight-unseen:

www.fredmiranda.com (probably the biggest inventory of used camera stuff but most are in the US)

www.keh.com

lots and lots of used stuff out there.

[Senna4ever]

Originally posted by MajinHurricane
where can You find used?
Kerrsdale Cameras
Leo's

[Meowjin]

I checked the richmond location for kerrisdale... they were pretty rude to me when I asked.

Wheres leos?

[Senna4ever]

You need to go to the main store in Kerrisdale or check their website.

Leo's is on Granville st between Nelson & Helmcken.

[MegaHurtz]

Is there much of a difference between the Tamron and Sigma 18-200's?

I'm in the same situation, I want to get a better array of lenses for my 20d.

I was thinking of the 28-135mm IS, and the 10-22mm. I probably do a lot more wide angle than zoom, but I'd like to have the capability... so maybe a 10-22 and 18-200?

[Senna4ever]

Read the user reviews at http://www.photographyreview.com/

[Meowjin]

I'm actually thinking about saving my bones and buying the 70-200 f/2.8L

Those things look sick.

[Jomo]

Originally posted by MajinHurricane
I'm actually thinking about saving my bones and buying the 70-200 f/2.8L

Those things look sick.

Why not get a 600 f/4, they look even more sick.

[Mananetwork]

Originally posted by MajinHurricane
I'm actually thinking about saving my bones and buying the 70-200 f/2.8L

Those things look sick.

Hey I got 1200mm L4 in storage.. Trade you your first born for it!

[Jomo]

You know what, I should correct myself. If you want a cool looking lens you need to get a Nikon 200-400 f/4 VR. Nevermind that it doesn't fit your camera, it looks MEGA SICC though.

[Bonjour43MA]

oh, you mean this thing? nah it's not sick at all

it's GROSS

http://www.look.com.hk/nikon/200VR/3vr.jpg

[Soundy]

You need an X-ray lens that will see through women's clothing!

[Mananetwork]

Originally posted by Soundy
You need an X-ray lens that will see through women's clothing!

:werd: I like the way he's thinking!

[Senna4ever]

Originally posted by Soundy
You need an X-ray lens that will see through women's clothing!
All you need is a very slightly modified SONY digicam with the Nightshot feature. ;)

[Meowjin]

sick as in image quality and performance :P

[Senna4ever]

^?

[supra123]

IM not too familiar with the IS system. How dependable are they for low light indoor use?

Ive read both of these lenses reviews and got mixed results. I cant afford L lenses so these 2 are within my budget range.

Anyone use these lenses before? can you tell me how the quality of the pictures are? Pros and cons of these lenses? Any rec. for other lenses?

Rite now i got a 28mm and a 50mm prime lenses. Both are very good for indoor use, im just getting lazy switiching em all the time when im taking party shots. so i need to replace em with one of the suggested lenses.

[Meowjin]

very. My s2 is actually could shot 1/60th with the focus being a little soft or if the subjects were sitting still sharp.

[Mananetwork]

Lets start off by saying 17-85IS can only be used on the rebel or 20D, while the 28-135IS is for all EOS cameras.
Alot of people use the 28-135IS, but they don't like it on a 1.6x crop camera. So Canon decided to release the 17-85IS which is the smaller brother of the 28-135IS
ex. 17-85 x 1.6 = 28-135IS

Same lenses. It just depends if you want more wide, or more telephoto

[supra123]

thx mananetwork. i have the rebel. i dont mind the wideness of teh 28 cuz i only use it to take party pictures so i could careless.
i guess in terms of resale value its easier to sell the 28-135 if i decide to.

Now how is the quality on these things? i heard its soft, but some say sharp. can anyone tell me this from exp?

[Bonjour43MA]

My friend's got a 17-85 and I swear to god he got one of the BEST copies evermade... at 70mm his lens is just as sharp as some L lenses, I kid you not.

It really depends on sample variation and what "copy" you happend to get... if it's good, then it's REALLY good.

Go buy from a store and try out 2 or 3 copies, and get the one that seems to be the sharpest at the focal range that you'll be using the most.

[Acuracura]

The 28-135 would be a very good walk-around lens. If you got it I think it would rarely leave your camera.

Do IS lenses let you pan?

[Meowjin]

yes, I believe you have to turn off the is or set it to tripod mode or something.

[Jomo]

Originally posted by Acuracura
The 28-135 would be a very good walk-around lens. If you got it I think it would rarely leave your camera.

Do IS lenses let you pan?

Many of them have a mode that'll only stabilize one axis so that the other can blur. I haven't done much panning myself so I can't really verify if it works in full IS mode, but you can always turn IS off if you find it undesirable for the shot you're taking.

[Mananetwork]

Originally posted by Acuracura
The 28-135 would be a very good walk-around lens. If you got it I think it would rarely leave your camera.

Do IS lenses let you pan?

the basic IS ones no, but the more advanced ones IS2 will

[dub.dub]

what lenses have IS2?

[Mananetwork]

Originally posted by dub.dub
what lenses have IS2?

24-105 IS *I THINK*, 70-200 2.8 IS, 300 IS, 100-400 IS, + the rest of the expensive lenses

[dub.dub]

oh... hmm.. is it a switch or just a feature within the IS? :o

[MegaHurtz]

70-200 F4L or 70-300 F4-5.6 IS?

I'm sure everybody will say the L lens, and call me a noob, but what is better about the L series vs the non-L?

Depending on where you look, the prices aren't too far apart.

[ridetrials]

...

[Jomo]

Bonjourma listed your basic options if you want wide.

And to answer your question: 14mm is pretty close to as wide as you can go and be rectilinear. The 6mm Senna mentioned is a circular fisheye, which means it doesn't fill a frame.

[notic]

Sigma 18-200

[Meowjin]

I probably going to buy in the next year

70-200 f/2.8L 1200 can with ship
50 mm f/1.8 (cheap glass with such sharp results) 100 dollars used
An Is lens... i think the 24-105 is (or somethign liek that) goes for around 600

[Mananetwork]

Originally posted by MajinHurricane
I probably going to buy in the next year

70-200 f/2.8L 1200 can with ship
50 mm f/1.8 (cheap glass with such sharp results) 100 dollars used
An Is lens... i think the 24-105 is (or somethign liek that) goes for around 600

he's asking about advice on what lenses are good to buy, not what your getting and how cheep you can get it for :gay:

[Meowjin]

Originally posted by Mananetwork
he's asking about advice on what lenses are good to buy, not what your getting and how cheep you can get it for :gay:

Actually those are probably 3 good lenses anyone should buy with a canon system, so why you gotta be a troll?

[Mananetwork]

Originally posted by MajinHurricane
Actually those are probably 3 good lenses anyone should buy with a canon system, so why you gotta be a troll?

24-105 (http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=productlist&A=details&Q=&sku=397662&is=USA&addedTroughType=search)

No idea how your gonna get that for 600bones

[Meowjin]

i think i ment this...

I think

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=productlist&A=details&Q=&sku=149629&is=GREY&addedTroughType=categoryNavigation

[Jomo]

Originally posted by MajinHurricane
Actually those are probably 3 good lenses anyone should buy with a canon system, so why you gotta be a troll?

Do you have any firsthand experience with any of the aforementioned lenses that you're giving purchase advice on?

[Meowjin]

Originally posted by Jomo
Do you have any firsthand experience with any of the aforementioned lenses that you're giving purchase advice on?

sorry no, its advice that other photographers have given me.

[laurencepak]

i reallly think either buy the 70-200mm f4 or the IS


the f2.8 is so heavy...it'd be hard to use without IS

saying this because i used an IS two weeks ago shooting a music concert

the pics are so damn sharp



i was at about 30 feet (?) away...take shots at 200mm f2.8

and u can still see single hairs on the pictures.

everyone needs a 70-200mm f2.8 IS!!!



well, if u can't buy it, at least rent it for $35!!!

[Meowjin]

its 500 dollars more american though :/

[Senna4ever]

I have a 70mm~210mm f2.8, but I get a lot of CA on my 7D. Super sharp on film, though.

[DARKSUN]

After all th weight, I find that I leave my BIG lens and Big Primes at home, Unless I KNOW I am having a Dedicated Photo Day. They my BIG Pelicans with Wheels come out.

I use my tamron 28-300 XR and it works great for parties, and Spur of the moment shots ;) (oh I also pack my 17-35 wide just in case)

All fits in a light shoulder bag and I just go out and have FUN.

[Meowjin]

Is this a good deal on a lens?

Its a canon 100-300 usm zoom lens, and I don't want to buy it right now but the guy is selling it for $100.

[Bonjour43MA]

you get what you pay for with lenses (in most cases), so a wide-range telephoto zoom for 100 bucks? Hmmm yeah, might be ok at f8 or up but I dont' know about the rest.

[Meowjin]

Yeah I dunno right now, I'm not in desprate need of a telephoto, but its so cheap... I'd rather just save up for a f4 or a f2.8

[Jomo]

300 f/2.8 is going to break your bank.

[Bonjour43MA]

but it's so yummy

[Meowjin]

Originally posted by Jomo
300 f/2.8 is going to break your bank.

ment the 200 f/2.8

and its 1200 which isn't bad.

But in the future if i improve my skills, i've chosen to be a sports illustrated photographer, so ill need to buy this one day and go to sport venues (or at least rent one)

[dub.dub]

and a 1D Mark II

[Senna4ever]

Originally posted by MajinHurricane
But in the future if i improve my skills, i've chosen to be a sports illustrated photographer, so ill need to buy this one day and go to sport venues (or at least rent one)
I think Sports Illustrated chooses YOU, not the other way around. I'd rather shoot the swimsuit issue instead of sports. :D

[Meowjin]

^True, But I have dreams dont I? :D

Actually while im taking nursing at langara, i plan to take photography as an ellective (once i get out of kwantlen...) /shakes fist

[Senna4ever]

Can you take part time courses in photography there?

[Meowjin]

I'm not sure, but according to my friend they do have courses (hes in photojournalism). I'm going to go tommorow and talk to a counciller.

[Senna4ever]

I heard that the photography courses are only for the students enrolled in the photography program.

[Doc]

Wait a minute, you're a male nurse?


LOL...that's awesome.





~S

[dub.dub]

^ LOL

anyway, practice your photography so u can take pics of female nurses for us

[Meowjin]

Originally posted by Doc
Wait a minute, you're a male nurse?


LOL...that's awesome.





~S

Damn rights!

The best part is the guy to girl ratio.

[Gopher]

I have a dilema... I don't know which way to go.

I've been looking through our list of available parts for my XT. Admittedly, our lenses are a little overpriced (and only by like 20 bucks anyways), but I know my employee discount greatly outweighs this price difference.

I don't know whether I want to get myself a 50mm f1.4 macro for 5XX.00 + discount, or if I want to get a 10-22mm EF-S for 1118.00 + discount.

Any ideas?

I know I want both, but I just don't know what order... :(

[Meowjin]

whats the macro range on the 50mm gopher?

And I suggest the 10-22mm, I've heard nothing but amazing things about those lens's.

[endless402]

^ i like the wonderful world of macro :p

esp if ure into creeepy crawlies

[Senna4ever]

50mm is way too short to use for (live) creepy crawlies usually.

Canon has a f1.4 macro?

[dub.dub]

I don't think the super wide is worth it...

[dub.dub]

For macro lenses, do you have to turn on the macro mode or is it auto?

[Senna4ever]

Macro lenses open up whole new worlds to explore. :)

[Senna4ever]

Originally posted by dub.dub
For macro lenses, do you have to turn on the macro mode or is it auto?
A macro lens is just that, a macro lens. Some lenses that are advertised as macro really aren't, and I think some of those have a switch, but a macro lens doesn't have a switch.

[dub.dub]

So you said 50mm is too close. Would 60mm be enough or would it have to go to the 100mm (regarding Canon's)?

[Senna4ever]

With my Minolta 50mm macro, the closest focusing distance at 1:2 ratio is 23 cm. With my Nikon 55mm micro, the closest distance is 25cm @ 1:2. A 1:1 ratio Minolta 50mm macro lens focuses at 2 inches. A little too close. The Canon 60mm macro close focuses at 4 inches.

[Ch28]

So after a little bit of procrastinating and saving up, I went ahead and ordered a Nikon D50 (body only) I was debating between this one or a Canon but from reading online reviews and user feedback, it seemed that the D50 was a better camera to start out with.

I've been doing some reading and I can't figure out which one is a good lens to start with. It seems that everybody recommends a different one as their "must have" lens: 35-70, 18-55, 55-200, 24-85, 18-70 etc.

I'm not made of money :p so I can't afford a lot of lenses right now so I'm looking for some recommendations on which lens is the must have lens. I can start off with that one and then slowly build up from there.

Thanks :D

[MikesJo]

18-70.

You should've bought my canon!

[Ch28]

Originally posted by MikesJo
18-70.

You should've bought my canon!

Haha...Wendy told me about your camera but I got a great deal on the D50 body.

[MikesJo]

Well if you got a really good deal then that's great :).

Now you have to start posting pics too!

[Meowjin]

d50 has probably some of the best anti-noise for any nikon camera... still not a fan. Go to bccamera.com and look on the forums for some used nikon lenses. Hope that helps.

Also 18-55 is always good. You get your wide angle and your small zoom.

[Senna4ever]

Welcome to Nikonia! I'm glad you saw the light and got a Nikon instead of a ergonomic nightmare of a Canon....but a Sony a100 would also have been a good choice too.

Get primes, not zooms. :) If yu must get a zoom, I think a lens 18-70 rang would be great.

[MikesJo]

Originally posted by Senna4ever
Welcome to Nikonia! I'm glad you saw the light and got a Nikon instead of a ergonomic nightmare of a Canon....but a Sony a100 would also have been a good choice too.

Get primes, not zooms. :) If yu must get a zoom, I think a lens 18-70 rang would be great.

The ergonomics on a canon are great! I don't know what you're talking about...

[GFunk]

i agree with the 18-70, if you want something even cheaper though just grab the kit lens, 18-55.

and if money wasn't an issue, i'd say try the 18-200

[Rikaro]

Originally posted by MikesJo
The ergonomics on a canon are great! I don't know what you're talking about...

if you play with both systems, the Canon are more simplified, where the Nikon has more buttons. However if you know how the Nikon systems works, then change settings would be wooping fast! I hate where the ergonomics on the Canon 5D sucked compared to the D200, but when you jump up to the 1 series, it's a whole different story.

[Domani]

Originally posted by MikesJo
The ergonomics on a canon are great! I don't know what you're talking about...


i agree

nikon has like menus within menus...

[Senna4ever]

Originally posted by MikesJo
The ergonomics on a canon are great! I don't know what you're talking about...
Both Canon & Nikon cameras are so menu biased, but the Canon is worse. I hate going through layer upon layer just to change a simple setting. That is why I love my 7D & F4s! :)

[ramir]

hey mikesjo what canon do you have and how much?

[dub.dub]

He has a 20D currently and selling an XT which is posted on the FS section.

[Bonjour43MA]

Congrats.

The 18-70 is a bit of a mystery; if you're lucky and get a good copy, it's as sharp as some pro lenses on a 6MP body. However if you get a normal, or "so-so" copy, you'll neither be blown away nor disgusted by the performence... kind of an "ok" lens by common standards.

If you're familiar with Nikon's systems, the 17-55/2.8 is the best in that range, but many have said that the 18-70 is just as good at similar apetures...

and based on my own comparison between the 2 lenses... I probably got a very good copy of the 18-70 because although there are minor diffrences in sharpness, the difference's not significant enough to justify the big lens over the 18-70 at 3 times the cost if you absolutely need f2.8 and more rugged build.

So yeah, find a good 18-70 and avoid the 18mm end, and you'll be very happy with it as a starter lens.

[Bonjour43MA]

Congrats.

The 18-70 is a bit of a mystery; if you're lucky and get a good copy, it's as sharp as some pro lenses on a 6MP body. However if you get a normal, or "so-so" copy, you'll neither be blown away nor disgusted by the performence... kind of an "ok" lens by common standards.

If you're familiar with Nikon's systems, the 17-55/2.8 is the best in that range, but many have said that the 18-70 is just as good at similar apetures...

and based on my own comparison between the 2 lenses... I probably got a very good copy of the 18-70 because although there are minor diffrences in sharpness, the difference's not significant enough to justify the big lens over the 18-70 at 3 times the cost if you don't absolutely need f2.8 and more rugged build.

So yeah, find a good 18-70 and avoid the 18mm end, and you'll be very happy with it as a starter lens.

[Meowjin]

Originally posted by Senna4ever
Welcome to Nikonia! I'm glad you saw the light and got a Nikon instead of a ergonomic nightmare of a Canon....

hey!

[Ch28]

Would this be a good lens to go with?

Nikon 18-70mm DX G AF-S Lens

http://www.cametaauctions.com/ebay/nikon/digital_slr/d70/nikon_18-70mm.jpg

This versatile Nikon 18-70mm AF-S DX Nikkor lens marks a significant advancement in lens design specifically optimized for all Nikon D-series digital SLR cameras.

The AF-S DX 18-70mm f/3.5-4.5G has a 3.8x zoom capability which covers the popular focal length range equivalent to 27-105mm in 35mm format. It offers wide-angle, portrait and telephoto capabilities in one compact design with outstanding center-to-edge-to-corner image quality.

This DX lens offers a selection of Nikon's highly regarded technologies such as Silent Wave motor (AF-S) for super fast and quiet autofocus operation, Extra-Low Dispersion glass (ED) for minimized chromatic aberrations, and Internal Focusing (IF) for convenient and balanced handling.

In addition, the AF-S DX 18-70mm f/3.5-4.5G ED-IF also incorporates hallmark Nikon features that customers have come to expect from Nikkor lenses, such as distance information guide window, a reliable metal lens mount for years of durability, and a M/A mode for seamless switching between autofocus and manual.

Focal Length: 18-70mm (27-105mm in 35mm format).
Maximum aperture: f/3.5
Lens construction: 15 elements in 13 groups (3xED glass lens elements, 1x aspherical lens element)
Picture angle: 76° - 22° 50'
Minimum focus range: 0.38m (15 in.)
Max. reproduction ratio: 1/6.2 (.16)
Filter Size: 67mm
Dimensions (Diameter x Length): 073 x 75.5mm (2.9 x 3.0 in.)
Weight : Approx. 390g (14.8 oz.)

[endless402]

yes haha thats what they have been talking about for awhile

its around 350-450

[Ch28]

Originally posted by endless402
yes haha thats what they have been talking about for awhile

its around 350-450

Good...I just wanted to make sure :p

[Meowjin]

its decent. does it come in an f/4 constant

[Meowjin]

So i picked up a UK photo magazine called Digital Photographer, and I was reading some of the lens reviews they had, and what suprised me is they recommend sigma lenses over most canon lenses/l lenses.

And the the thing is sigmas are remarkably cheaper. Especially since im considering buying a 10-22 and sigmas cost 450 us will the canon cost around 600 us.

So is there a quality diffrence? slower focusing?

Sigma owners post up :D

[lowside67]

I was at Kerrisdale yesterday comparing the Canon 10-22 and the Sigma equivelant and let me be the first to say when I spend the money I will not be saving $200 by buying that Sigma. What a piece of garbage. The Canon is quiet, super fast to focus with the USM, and very sharp - not to mention the rings are smooth. The Sigma just feels cheap, takes forever to focus, and is really noisy.

[Kasino]

^^
agree on super fast focus and very silent focus :)
been a 10-22 owner for 7 + months and no regrets what so ever.

[Gopher]

Yeah, the 10-22 is definitely going to be my next lens purchase... it WAS already going to be, but yesterday I bought a 50mm 1.8 on impulse and am loving every minute of it.

I played with other lenses, and I just think Canon feels nice and solid, everything else feels like a toy.

[dub.dub]

Is that the UK magazine that cost $16.75CDN?... I like my Tokina.

[Meowjin]

Wicked. My next lens is probably going to be a 10-22 or a or a 70-200 as sport season is around the corner.

[//RacingSpirit>>]

thoughts on th Canon EF 28-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS USM?

[Meowjin]

Hmm do you plan on shooting in low light?

Personally I don't think the IS is worth it on a lens like that. But im too lazy to research right now.

[Senna4ever]

Get the Sigma 12-24...works for full frame, too!

[Meowjin]

Originally posted by Senna4ever
Get the Sigma 12-24...works for full frame, too!

do you own one?

even so I lose that 2 mm.

so 12x1.6 = ~19
while the 10 = 16.

I think ill just go camera root. I might be getting a second job at my friends cousin camera store developing rolls and selling stuff... would be an intresting job to have.

[Senna4ever]

No, but I want one!

[dub.dub]

I read that you cannot screw in filters on top of the Sigma 12-24 lens as the lens bulge out. Is that true?

[Meowjin]

Originally posted by MajinHurricane


I think ill just go camera root. .

What the fuck was I trying to say there?

[dub.dub]

^ no idea but i just ignored it as i didn't understand it.... but now i think u wanted to say Canon ;D

[HyperREV]

Originally posted by Senna4ever
No, but I want one!

me too, that or the sigma 10-20. still works on FF above 13mm so i hear.

[//RacingSpirit>>]

lenses don't lose value do they? if i bought a nice lens, would something else supercede it in the near future like how electronics do?

[Bonjour43MA]

lenses will drop in value no matter what, but usually brand names don't drop as fast as 3rd party lenses.

it also depends on how saturated the market is... if there are a bunch of a certain lens, then the value will drop.

You don't have to worry too much about lenses being superceded in the future because they don't get updated as fast as elecotrnics do. A bunch of Canon Ls have been around for many many years and haven't been updated at all - glass is glass, manufacturing methods may change but the basic physics stay the same.

I personally try not to buy lenses new because you lose a certain amount of money as soon as you walk out of the camera store, but sometimes it's good to buy new (or buy used but get the reciept from the seller) to get the longer warranty offered by the manufactuer.

[Senna4ever]

Originally posted by dub.dub
I read that you cannot screw in filters on top of the Sigma 12-24 lens as the lens bulge out. Is that true?
Yes.

[Senna4ever]

Originally posted by //RacingSpirit>>
lenses don't lose value do they? if i bought a nice lens, would something else supercede it in the near future like how electronics do?
Almost everything loses value.

Presently, the optics of the best lenses are at the best they will ever be. Zoom lenses my improve, but primes have not really improved for over 20 years.

[Meowjin]

17-40mm f/4L or a 10-22mm f/3.5-4.6 (non L)

About the same price but I can only afford one for now.

[Gopher]

Personally, I'd go for the 10-22. You can get some really effective effects with that lens. And you don't really see as much super-wide angle as you do standard portrait types... that's going to be my next lens.

[Mananetwork]

Originally posted by dub.dub
I read that you cannot screw in filters on top of the Sigma 12-24 lens as the lens bulge out. Is that true?

I have a CPL on mine but you'll see vig on the sides :(

[Senna4ever]

Originally posted by Mananetwork
I have a CPL on mine but you'll see vig on the sides :(
Don't you get uneven polarization on that lens? ...and I thought that lens didn't have front lens threads...it's a rear gelatin filter isn't it?

[dub.dub]

I'd go for the 17-40 just because I would put more use to it than the 10-22mm. It doesn't matter what's not popular or popular out there, I'd just get something I'd use for most of my shots. Also, I feel that the Canon 10-22 is overpriced compared to 3rd market lenses which provided similar results.

[Mananetwork]

Originally posted by Senna4ever
Don't you get uneven polarization on that lens? ...and I thought that lens didn't have front lens threads...it's a rear gelatin filter isn't it?

It has front threading on the cap. You can also use gelatin filters in the back too. Not sure about the uneven polarization

[Meowjin]

Quick questions about filters... I'm getting a graduated ND and was wondering if a .6 was enough for bright daytime days.

[Senna4ever]

^^^ WHat kind of GND are you getting...screw-in type or filter holder? With a screw-in type, the boundary will be right in the middle, which will limit you to taking landscapes with the horizon only in the middle. With a holder type, you can move the filter up & down to alter the horizon position.

Get a 2 or 3 stop one.

[Meowjin]

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=cart&A=details&Q=&sku=57842&is=REG

That one.

I also want to pick up one of these

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?A=search&Q=&b=2102&mnp=0.0&mxp=0.0&shs=&ci=8944&ac=&Submit.x=17&Submit.y=8

but im having a little conflict on which one i would use more. The clear one is used for Action shots, while the frosted is used for portraits.

[Senna4ever]

Tiffen is not a very good brand, IMHO.

[Meowjin]

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=productlist&A=details&Q=&sku=101236&is=REG&addedTroughType=search?

[Kasino]

im thinking of getting a
FD 50mm f/1.2 L
or
EF 50mm f/1.4 USM

can anybody do a comparison between the two?

[Meowjin]

Well the FD ain't autofocus and the 1.4 will have the same sharpness as the 1.2L.

[dub.dub]

Does the FD lenses work on newer Canon cameras (the mounts)?

[Meowjin]

Dont think so.

[Girl]

So i'm contemplating on either the D50 or the D70.

I use to be an avid photographer but have stopped over the years and have recently been getting back into it over the last year. Planning on brushing up on my photography skills and potentially partnering up with a friend's business or starting my own.

What do you guys think between is a better commitment? Pros? Cons?

Thanks

[K-Dub]

d70s ftw... :-)

[Jomo]

I think this'll come down to your budget. The D70s to my knowledge is clearly a better camera and has many added features that you may not use at first, but wont want to miss if you end up using the camera a lot (ie: remote flash triggering)

[stuff99]

would you rather get a Tamron 28-75 F2.8 or a Canon 17-85mm IS?

[Senna4ever]

Originally posted by dub.dub
Does the FD lenses work on newer Canon cameras (the mounts)?
No.

[Senna4ever]

Have you considered the new D80?

[K-Dub]

^ you can wait a year for that...

[Bonjour43MA]

if you don't shoot high-ISO shots, get the D70s

otherwise the D50 is a better low-light camera because it's got better noise performence when you crank up the ISO setting.

[K-Dub]

^ true. ..but then you lose some features...basically it depends on your style of shootin'

[Meowjin]

Originally posted by spiritofevil99
would you rather get a Tamron 28-75 F2.8 or a Canon 17-85mm IS?

anything that begins with tamron = junk.

[Senna4ever]

Originally posted by MajinHurricane
anything that begins with tamron = junk.
Wtf...that is so not true.

[stuff99]

Originally posted by MajinHurricane
anything that begins with tamron = junk.

The Tamron has some pretty good reviews....

[Girl]

Originally posted by Senna4ever
Have you considered the new D80?

Yes i've looked into the D80 but someone i know is selling either of those camera's for an amazing price + additional lenses. D70 BNIB condition w/ lens and D50 w/ lens. with the D50 i'd be saving myself $260.

[endless402]

body wise, price isnt much of a diff
its the kit lens that makes a big diff with the d70 having a much better lens thats worth roughly 400 bux versus d50's kit lens, which is only $150ish

[dub.dub]

yup, lots of good lenses from tampon i mean Tamron

[K-Dub]

tamron 28-75 is goooood.....friend has it.

[Meowjin]

ment tokina :P

I would go for a sigma 24-70 ex dg macro. But I'm only saying that because im picking one up friday. :D

[stuff99]

Originally posted by spiritofevil99
would you rather get a Tamron 28-75 F2.8 or a Canon 17-85mm IS?

A third option I am considering is just getting the Canon 28-135mm IS

By going with the Tamron or the 28-135mm IS, I can just keep the kit lens (18-55mm), but by getting the 17-85mm I can sell it.

Tamron is cheaper but no IS

Really need your opinion on this guys!

Thanks

[dub.dub]

Originally posted by MajinHurricane
ment tokina :P

I would go for a sigma 24-70 ex dg macro. But I'm only saying that because im picking one up friday. :D

what's wrong with a tokina?! i have one and works totally fine and sharp

[Mananetwork]

Originally posted by dub.dub
yup, lots of good lenses from tampon i mean Tamron

Your not funny, you make babies cry :cry:

[dub.dub]

... ^ eat me

[Jomo]

Originally posted by MajinHurricane
ment tokina :P

How can you possibly be so stupid/ignorant/fullofshit at such a consistant rate?

[Mananetwork]

Originally posted by MajinHurricane
anything that begins with tamron = junk.

I have a tamron and it's par with the pricey canon 24-70

[Bonjour43MA]

Tamron is junk? Have you even used one before?

Like Tom said, the 28-75/2.8 is VERY good, matching the performence of the Canon 24-70 or the Nikon 28-70. I've had it when I shot Nikon and it was VERY SHARP.

The new 17-50/2.8 is also very good even when compared to the Canon 17-55 IS... Sure the Tamron doesn't have IS or USM, but it also costs $1000 bucks less, and certianly not 1/3rd the performence!.

Don't knock a lens if you haven't even used one before. If anything the Tamron 28-75 is a better lens than the Sigma 24-70.

[dub.dub]

He meant to say Tokina, but still, they have good lenses available.

[Senna4ever]

Originally posted by MajinHurricane
ment tokina :P

I would go for a sigma 24-70 ex dg macro. But I'm only saying that because im picking one up friday. :D
Err....Tokina has the ATX range, their pro lenses which are on par with the major manufacturers. Built like a tank. You don't know what you're talking about do you? You just read shit on the all powerful internet and believe whatever is written without confirming anything. Do a little research and tests and form your own opinions instead of being an armchair lens tester. The Tokina ATX version of their 80-200 f2.8 is sharper than my Tamron 70-210 f2.8 SP LD.

Oh, BTW...Tokina is no longer in the Canadian market.

[Jomo]

I have a tokina, and I like it a lot. Other than my 300mm IS, it's the most common lens on my camera.

Majin: Open mouth, insert foot.

[Meowjin]

Originally posted by Jomo

Majin: Open mouth, insert foot.

[HyperREV]

Originally posted by Bonjour43MA


If anything the Tamron 28-75 is a better lens than the Sigma 24-70.

the only downsides to the sigma is lack of hsm (something the tamron doesnt have either) and 82mm filters.

...so what exactly makes the tamron a better lens than the sigma?

[Jomo]

I've heard really good things about good copies of the Tammy 28-75 being a gem as far as standard zooms go.

[Meowjin]

my only complaint so far with the sigma is that it is quite soft at 2.8

[Gopher]

Originally posted by Senna4ever
Do a little research and tests and form your own opinions instead of being an armchair lens tester.

I had a textbook example of this recently... Mark (Lowside) and I were researching to get a couple good tripods and started looking at Manfrotto. More specifically, the 714B. I read a couple reviews about it, and almost didnt get it, then we went to try them out at Kerrisdale Camera... I'm glad I did, cause we both got one. Just got back from a trip I took it on and it's great.

Research is definitely an important part of the equation, but testing is crucial.

That being said, I tested both the 10-22 Canon, and the equivalent Tamron, and have to say that I was quite unimpressed with the Tammy. Comparitively, is was slow, and really just felt cheap. No weight to it...

[Bonjour43MA]

Originally posted by HyperREV
the only downsides to the sigma is lack of hsm (something the tamron doesnt have either) and 82mm filters.

...so what exactly makes the tamron a better lens than the sigma?

with the copies that I've used, the Tamron's sharp at f2.8 and totally usable, whereas the Sigma is soft and to me that defeats the whole purpose of having an f2.8 lens - no point in having one if you can't use it wide open.

your mileadge may vary

:angel2:

[Senna4ever]

Originally posted by MajinHurricane
my only complaint so far with the sigma is that it is quite soft at 2.8
Erm, dude....NO lens other than some Leicas & Zeiss are at their sharpest wide open. Consumer grade lenses are almost always at their sharpest when stopped down to between f5.6-f11. The f2.8 just gives you that much wiggle room to get a useable photo in low light.

[HyperREV]

Originally posted by Bonjour43MA
with the copies that I've used, the Tamron's sharp at f2.8 and totally usable, whereas the Sigma is soft and to me that defeats the whole purpose of having an f2.8 lens - no point in having one if you can't use it wide open.

your mileadge may vary

:angel2:

i think thats the biggest problem with sigma/tamron, they vary so much copy to copy. i have the sigma ex dg macro and love it, older versions arent as good from what i've seen/heard. i just wish it was hsm/77mm.

[ramir]

how much would a

Canon EF 75-300 mm f/4-5.6 IS USM Lens

cost brand new?

[dub.dub]

^ not sure but there's one for sale for $200 something on bcc forum

[ramir]

BCC???

[ramir]

and are you sure its the IS USM one?

[dub.dub]

oh no i'm not sure
i just remember seeing 75-300 :p

bcc is broadway camera
i see u on there now :)

[Meowjin]

ramir just get a 70-200 f/4 for 650 can used :D

very very sharp :D

[ramir]

no no coz a friend of mine is selling his

Canon EF 75-300 mm f/4-5.6 IS USM Lens
Canon ET-64II Lens Hood (for 75-300 mm IS)
Hoya 58 mm UV Pro 1 Filter (for 75-300mm IS)

that whole thing for $500 and i wanna buy it for my 30D

[dub.dub]

the 70-200 comes with a hood as well and most may sell their lens with a UV filter too

you get the L colors!

[ramir]

lol but that's more money, money that i don't have... >.<

[dub.dub]

easier to resell back out too!

[ramir]

what's the "L" for anyways???

but yeah please answer my question is the price i got from my friend reasonable???

$500 for

Canon EF 75-300 mm f/4-5.6 IS USM Lens
Canon ET-64II Lens Hood (for 75-300 mm IS)
Hoya 58 mm UV Pro 1 Filter (for 75-300mm IS)

all of that

[dub.dub]

Canon 'L' lenses: http://www.the-digital-picture.com/Canon-Lenses/Canon-L-Lens-Series.aspx

Can't answer your 2nd question though since I don't know what the market price for that lens is. Look around and compare. :)

[ramir]

oh damnit so those are the sexy ones with the red stripe, hahaha shit, damnit man i just got a 30D i am not even pro yet and ur making me buy pro equipment, lol hahaha

imma be like all show no go... lol!!!

but we shall see... maybe i'll save up for that one also

[dub.dub]

hehe u got a 30D though! should have started with an XT or something. :p

i have an XT and after getting the battery grip, i like it more. still learning photography

i'll do the change next year

[Intelude]

Originally posted by ramir
what's the "L" for anyways???

but yeah please answer my question is the price i got from my friend reasonable???

$500 for

Canon EF 75-300 mm f/4-5.6 IS USM Lens
Canon ET-64II Lens Hood (for 75-300 mm IS)
Hoya 58 mm UV Pro 1 Filter (for 75-300mm IS)

all of that

http://vistek.ca/details/details.aspx?WebCode=107281

I don't think its worth it for $500. The 75-300mm is not very good according to my research.

[dub.dub]

Can't compare it with that price since he's asking about the IS version.

[Gopher]

Plus, we can't base a decision solely off af on an armchair tester... we need the advice of someone who's actually owned this lens, or has at least tested it. I had some pretty bad reviews about my tripod, and I'm loving it.

[ramir]

Originally posted by dub.dub
hehe u got a 30D though! should have started with an XT or something. :p

i have an XT and after getting the battery grip, i like it more. still learning photography

i'll do the change next year

i did start with a xt, i had an xt a year ago but it got stolen then i just got an S50 first just so i can take pics then now i got a 30D...

[ramir]

Originally posted by Intelude
http://vistek.ca/details/details.aspx?WebCode=107281

I don't think its worth it for $500. The 75-300mm is not very good according to my research.

actually i just went to a camera store today at downtown and they said its worth 789 or sumtin like that but yeah over 750 for the 75-300 IS USM...

so i guess its worth buying the lens for $500 with the hood and the filter...

[Intelude]

Opps my mistake, forgot the IS.

[Mananetwork]

Originally posted by dub.dub
Canon 'L' lenses: http://www.the-digital-picture.com/Canon-Lenses/Canon-L-Lens-Series.aspx

Can't answer your 2nd question though since I don't know what the market price for that lens is. Look around and compare. :)

FINALLY FOUND IT! Been trying to find the name of this site but no luck. Use to have a whole shit load of camera pages and lost all my bookmarks

Thanks WeS

[dub.dub]

hehe np, i almost forgot that link too when i was finding it! :)

[dink]

Do any of you have the Sigma 18-50 mm f/2.8 DC EX? I want to pick one up... anyone know any stores that might have a good price other than bcc?

[Bonjour43MA]

i'd say get the Tamron 17-50 instead... known to be sharper than the Sigma and I believe a bit cheaper too.

[ramir]

Ok guys oddly enough my piece of shit kit lens from my 30D stopped working, well the autofocus just stopped working.

I would bother getting it fixed since i still have the 3 year warranty of it from bestbuy but i wanna get something to upgrade it with anyways.

basically something with the same range i guess.

i already have the

50mm 1.8
75-300mm 4-5.6 IS USM

but i don't really have the budget to get an expensive lens so yeah.

i will be using this lens that i want to get for taking pictures for clubs so just something decent basically just an upgrade from the kit lens. just need that nice wide angle coz i gotta get those group pictures also.

$400 would be my budget including tax already. I don't mind buying used lenses at all so if you could reffer me to some that would be awesome also!!!



sorry i posted it on the wrong forum since mananenetwork directed me to the other thread but yeah here we go

[[HuCk DuCk]]

just get it fixed if its under warranty. lol

[Mananetwork]

Originally posted by [HuCk DuCk]
just get it fixed if its under warranty. lol

What duck said. Look for some cheap 24mm prime.

[bombs240sx]

this is a great resource for lenses. was reccommended to me by the nikon rep (whom I have known for a while.)

photozone.de

alot of the stuff is above my head, but it gives you a rating and a look into what you are buying. it has EVERY lense made for digital cameras and some the older af and mf lenses.

[thedon]

futureshop has this lens for sale http://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?logon=&langid=EN&sku_id=0665000FS10063548&catid=
is that a good deal? or would i be better off buying the pentax DA 55-200mm for $200?

[Mananetwork]

Originally posted by thedon
futureshop has this lens for sale http://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?logon=&langid=EN&sku_id=0665000FS10063548&catid=
is that a good deal? or would i be better off buying the pentax DA 55-200mm for $200?

http://www.ephotozine.com/article/Sigma-55-200-f4-56-DC

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036&message=23936075
Quote from the site:
"I have owned both the Sigma and Pentax offerings at one time or other, and have been entirely satisfied with both.

In terms of handling, the Sigma has the advantage of being physically shorter at max extension. The Pentax seems all tubes and guts as you extend it, which is a bit alarming to begin with. On the other hand, the Pentax allows you to manually tweak the focus (as with the kit lens).

If I were to choose over again, I'd probably go for the Sigma as it felt more robust and I have a gut feeling (not objectively verified) that it has a slight edge in sharpness.
Mike "

Non of us are really pentax shooters, so it's your call

[IMASA]

Hey guys, I have a Nikon D40X and after being brainwashed by KenRockwell, I went out and got a Nikon 18-200. It's good for what it is, I mainly got it because I didn't have to lug around 2 lenses and swap them.

I am looking for a macro lens, any recommendations? I want to be able to shoot bugs, flowers, etc. The 60mm Nikon seems pricey, anyone try the 90mm Tamron? I think it's a bit cheaper than the Nikon. Thanks

[Senna4ever]

The Tamron is supposed to be a phenomenal lens. I don't think you will be able to use AF with it though.

You can also try to find a used macro lens. Try Kerrisdale Cameras or Leo's.

[trix25]

hello all looking for whatever advice i can get...i am looking to purchase another lens to compliment my current kit lens that i have for my Canon Rebel and was leaning towards the Canon 28-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS lens. just wondering any other lenses or better alternatives i should look that can provide similiar quality at a better price range? anything from Tamron, Sigma?

p.s i don't particularly shoot certain objects just looking for an all-rounder that i can use for portraits, automotive, scenery, etc.

TIA

[Senna4ever]

That new Tamron 18-250mm seems to be getting good reviews.

[IMASA]

Anyone using the Sigma 30mm 1.4 HSM? What's your opinon on that lens for portraits and general purpose? I've considered getting a Nikon 50mm 1.8 since it's much cheaper, but it won't AF on my D40.

[Mananetwork]

Originally posted by IMASA
Anyone using the Sigma 30mm 1.4 HSM? What's your opinon on that lens for portraits and general purpose? I've considered getting a Nikon 50mm 1.8 since it's much cheaper, but it won't AF on my D40.

For portraits use a range which is 50mm+
I'm not a Nikoner, but why wouldn't the 1.8 focus on your D40

[IMASA]

The D40 doesn't have the a built-in focus motor, so only Nikon AF-S or Sigma HSM lenses will auto focus. I didn't think it would matter THAT much before I bought the D40, but now I'm kinda regretting getting it.

As for a portrait lens, even with the 1.6x crop factor, will the 30mm still be too short for portraits? That should give me 48mm vs 80mm for the 50mm.

I keep reading rumours about Nikon releasing a 50mm AF-S lens soon, does anyone know anything about it? Some say it will be a 1.8, others say it'll be a 1.2. If it's the latter, then that doesn't do me any good cuz that'll be way out of my budget.

[[HuCk DuCk]]

loll short explanation is, d40 doesn't have the AF screw. only sonic motors work with the d40/x. thats why i never looked at a d40 seriously. i was lookin at a d50 but they ran out b4 i cud get my hands on one

[Ronin]

I'm also looking for a macro lens...anyone used a Sigma 50mm f2.8 1:1? It's relatively cheap compared to some other options.

[IMASA]

Woooot, I just got my first prime. The Sigma 30mm 1.4. Damn, this lens to sharp, a big improvement of the 3.5-5.6 of my kit lenses, I didn't realize how important having a large apperature is, especially in low light. I guess I was brain washed by Ken Rockwell thinking that VR is good enough. I shoulda got this lens before getting the Nikon 18-200VR.

[Senna4ever]

Originally posted by trix25
hello all looking for whatever advice i can get...i am looking to purchase another lens to compliment my current kit lens that i have for my Canon Rebel and was leaning towards the Canon 28-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS lens. just wondering any other lenses or better alternatives i should look that can provide similiar quality at a better price range? anything from Tamron, Sigma?

p.s i don't particularly shoot certain objects just looking for an all-rounder that i can use for portraits, automotive, scenery, etc.

TIA
The new Sigma 18-200mm f3.5-6.3 DC OS AF is getting good reviews. It's not the same lens optically as the older 18-200mm, much improved.

[[HuCk DuCk]]

i'm waiting for christmas....hopefully i can find a boxing day sale or smth

[ramir]

ok guys i need a good wide or ultra wide angle lens for events at night for my Canon 30D.

so nice big aperture opening would be nice but needs to be affordable also. i'm not rich lol!!!

what's the best bang for your buck do you guys think that takes clear pics?

any suggestions of what lens and where its being sold cheap, used or brand new is fine.

thanks a lot!!!

[MikesJo]

I've used the 12-24 tokina before and was happy with it. Find it used on fredmiranda is my recommendation. If you use flash a lot at the club then you don't really need the fast f stop, plus you probably won't notice it so much on a super wide angle.

[[HuCk DuCk]]

He doesn't use flash at a club (AFAIK), and you never really should. It ruins the ambiance

[BIG]

Anyone have a review of the Canon 28-135 IS USM? Good lens or not?

[d1]

Tamron 17-50 f/2.8 - Any thoughts on the lens?

[OffroadZuki]

any thoughts on whether I should go for a Sigma 18-125 or a Sigma 18-200? I already have a 70-300...thanks...

[OffroadZuki]

man this board/thread is dead...I ended up getting the 18-125...

[[HuCk DuCk]]

everyone's on holidays.

[Marloon]

hey guys.

i want to buy a new Lens. My 17-85 Bores Me. Now i am considering buying Canon L Lenses. I love their design and the RED RING. the next L Lens i am going to probably buy is the 70-200 F4L Lens. Can anyone comment on this lens? I am having a hard time deciding between the F4L or the F2.8L Lens. Thanks for your help! And does the IS really matter?

I heard the best walk around Lens is the 28-70 f2.8L Lens.

Thanks for your help!

[[HuCk DuCk]]

you'd buy the lens just for the red ring? LOL

yeah yeah i know its more than just that

[Marloon]

yeah JuST for the Red Ring. I mean. Come on! Who doesn't want a red ring around their lens?

[mos_skeeto]

Hmm would this be a good upgrade for the kit xti lens. It has IS:

http://www.amazon.com/Canon-EF-S-18-55mm-3-5-5-6-Lens/dp/B000V5K3FG/ref=pd_rhf_f_i_k2a_3

I read a few reviews and it said that it still uses cheap plastic. However the price looks really good.

[[HuCk DuCk]]

Its the same cheap kit lens with IS. they should have just left the regular kit lens alone and spent the money developing a better lens altogether

[d1]

It may seem like the kit lens + IS, but the reviews + MTF for the new canon 18-55 IS has been great. The new IS seems pretty neat too - apparently it's completely silent and claims to be good enough for a gain equivalent of up to 4-stops.

http://www.photozone.de/8Reviews/lenses/canon_1855_3556is/index.htm


I think you should get it, Michelin. For the price, you can't really go wrong.

[boxeraddict]

Just bought a Pentax K10D and a 18-55mm lens for it.

What other lens should a beginner think about for this camera?

[Senna4ever]

What kind of photography do you want to do?

[Full`Throttle]

Hey guys. Brand new to the game here. Just got a Rebel XTI as a christmas gift and I want some advice. I am looking for a "do-it-all" or "do-most" lens that will keep me busy learning. My budget is low so the cheaper the better. I am interested in outdoor photography but also some portrait stuff too.

Now please be nice as I'm totally new. Thanks!

[Senna4ever]

The Tamron 18-250 seems to be an awesome lens in its range. About $500. The Tamron 18-200 is about $400.

The Sigma 18-200 OS lens is about $600.