[woob]

Personal preference. Stack, cuff, or hem is up to you.

[ForbiddenX]

I hemmed my N&F but I'm cuffing my Tellason's until I can find somewhere that can hem them using a chain stitcher that isn't too far away (Seattle) or I'll have to wait until I go to San Fran.

I got these Tellason's a couple weeks ago but I've been a little bit busy to post them up. I picked them up from ABC Denim (http://shop.abcdenim.com) (they're having a huge sale on their inventory right now). Got it before the sale though unfortunately :(

I love the overall construction of the denim and it feels really nice to wear. I got the Ladbroke Grove (slim tapered) and it fit TTS but you can probably size down one for an even slimmer look. I'm going for a more relaxed look instead of a skinny one though :D. Everything that was used to make the pair of Jeans are made in the USA. From the denim all the way down to the rivets.

Here are some pictures from today:
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8452/7919626484_6b24d05136_z.jpghttp://farm9.staticflickr.com/8302/7919623348_ec1083b80e_z.jpg

I'll take a picture of the details a little later when I have some more time.

[RESN]

For slim jims in a larger size, I would hem them. You won't get much stacking from slim jims past a 28-30 waist

[areyounoob]

Cool boots.

[RacingMetro92]

For slim jims in a larger size, I would hem them. You won't get much stacking from slim jims past a 28-30 waist

Know a quality place that'll do a good job? I'd go to my regular tailor, but they're more a chain than anything. I REALLY want to protect my investment.

[MindBomber]

Forbiddenx,

I love those boots; very cool, and they look great. I ordered a very similar pair a few days ago.

[nabs]

bought true's! 60 percent off at boysco, my size!!!

[Expresso]

I hemmed my N&F but I'm cuffing my Tellason's until I can find somewhere that can hem them using a chain stitcher that isn't too far away (Seattle) or I'll have to wait until I go to San Fran.



blue owl in Bellevue has a union special for chain stitching now. Never used them before tho.

[areyounoob]

Not denim related, but I just noticed that local stores that stock clarks dbs increased their prices.. :okay:

[speeed]

Yup just bought a pair of clarks dbs in beeswax
Browns Shoes hiked their price up to $160. Your best bet is to order them online.

Anyways, I'm looking for a brown/natural leather belt. any recommendations?

[RESN]

I always buy Clarks in Seattle. DB's for $60 usually in beeswax or brown

[areyounoob]

I went to the Clarks store at the premium outlets a week ago, but they had a terrible selection of desert boots.
I guess I should venture off into the city a little bit more.



Anyways, I'm looking for a brown/natural leather belt. any recommendations?

If you're cheap, there's a Tandy Leather factory in Surrey right after the pattullo bridge. Mine is just about a year old and it's got the patina to prove it. Here's a guide (http://www.reddit.com/r/malefashionadvice/comments/k6uro/how_to_make_a_100_belt_on_the_cheap/) of what you're going to need, if you decide this route. You'll be left with a basic full grain leather belt, assuming that you didn't dye it.
If you want something more known, there's Tanner Goods and Corter Leather, but there are always other brands that aren't so mainstream.

[zetazeta]

Yup just bought a pair of clarks dbs in beeswax
Browns Shoes hiked their price up to $160. Your best bet is to order them online.

Anyways, I'm looking for a brown/natural leather belt. any recommendations?

Go google Tanner Goods. They have some pretty good belts I'm told.

[bcedhk]

Clarks at the premimum outlet is more for the older crowd. Db will be a rare find.

The little burgendy (i think they are the same company as footlocker?) sometimes sell DB's for less than 80.
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[unit]

hey speed, what size is your waist? i have a natural tan leather belt from corter i bought for $60. he made it in the wrong size for me, it'll probably fit in the middle hole if you're a 31. takes like 6 weeks for him to make one so if you're interested i'll sell it. wore it like twice and just the slightest amount of blue transferred from my jeans. pm me if you're interested.

[fs604]

grabbed the last pair of new idc x n&f collab in size 28 from dutil just now!
inside pocket signed by brandon svarc (founder of n&f)
buffalo hide patch
http://blog.dutildenim.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/idcxnfpatch-300x225.jpg
so excited to break these in :fullofwin:

[dasani604]

Someone school me on denim.

For the past two years I've been wearing A&E jeans (their slim fits my legs well). I think it's time I upgraded. I don't understand how tight is acceptable because I hear that most denim stretch (raw or not raw). My mentality is to also not go raw because I always tend to drop food on my clothes (happens almost every week). I'm still open to the idea of raw but I'm also curious if there are good brands/fits for non-raw jeans.

[Cr33pUh]

Someone school me on denim.

For the past two years I've been wearing A&E jeans (their slim fits my legs well). I think it's time I upgraded. I don't understand how tight is acceptable because I hear that most denim stretch (raw or not raw). My mentality is to also not go raw because I always tend to drop food on my clothes (happens almost every week). I'm still open to the idea of raw but I'm also curious if there are good brands/fits for non-raw jeans.

True Religeon
Seven for all man kind
Rock & Republic

Those are good brands for non-raw jeans.


















:ilied:


But I would consider going raw because quality of denim is much higher imo. If you drop food on your jeans, then just put a napkin over your thighs when you eat....no shame in that.

[Energy]

What's your price range? Eh for me food stains just add to the character of my denim. Not that I spill food on them regularly.

[RESN]

There is no rule that exists where you CANT wash your raw denim for 6 months. Wash regularly if needed, they can still turn out great! I don't think you should take raw denim out of the equation.

If you want non raw, LVC, RRL, Nudies, Ralph Lauren Denim Supply

[incubus]

since we are on the topic of shoes going to vegas dont feel like rocking dress shoes

anything else i can wear?

tia

[dasani604]

But I would consider going raw because quality of denim is much higher imo. If you drop food on your jeans, then just put a napkin over your thighs when you eat....no shame in that.

What's your price range? Eh for me food stains just add to the character of my denim. Not that I spill food on them regularly.

There is no rule that exists where you CANT wash your raw denim for 6 months. Wash regularly if needed, they can still turn out great! I don't think you should take raw denim out of the equation.

If you want non raw, LVC, RRL, Nudies, Ralph Lauren Denim Supply

Ideally, anything below $200 if possible. I'm going to give those brands a try and see which fits best for me.

I'm convinced that I should try out raw as well. Could I have some recommendations as well? (I have googled some brands but I have no idea what's good and not).

[RESN]

For raw denim you could try Nudies, APCs, Naked & Famous is really popular on this forum, Unbranded

[PJ]

In terms of raws.. for the price, Naked&Famous should be a no-brainer.

For non-raw, I personally like Sevens and Levi's. And Nudie's non-raw styles.

[PJ]

since we are on the topic of shoes going to vegas dont feel like rocking dress shoes

anything else i can wear?

tia

Got back from Vegas a few weeks ago. I didn't feel like wearing dress shoes either.
So.. I rocked Naked&Famous with black Vans classics :fuckthatshit:

[RESN]

jack purcells, they work with anything :D

[dasani604]

For raw denim you could try Nudies, APCs, Naked & Famous is really popular on this forum, Unbranded

In terms of raws.. for the price, Naked&Famous should be a no-brainer.

For non-raw, I personally like Sevens and Levi's. And Nudie's non-raw styles.

I'll check out Naked&Famous. I saw a few while looking around at Holt Renfrew.

I hear Dutil is the mecca for jeans in Vancouver. Besides raw denim, would they also carry Nudie's non-raw styles?

[fs604]

I'll check out Naked&Famous. I saw a few while looking around at Holt Renfrew.

I hear Dutil is the mecca for jeans in Vancouver. Besides raw denim, would they also carry Nudie's non-raw styles?

yes they non raw styles. from brands other than nudies too.

[instantneedles]

will be getting a pair of apcs sometime this coming new year. but first, must cawp a decent pair of clarks before i do

[incubus]

Got back from Vegas a few weeks ago. I didn't feel like wearing dress shoes either.
So.. I rocked Naked&Famous with black Vans classics :fuckthatshit:

jack purcells, they work with anything :D


lol i guess aslong as they dont look like runners i guess il do that

i normally buy my n&f online or at pauls dont forget every 13th they have a sale on 13 or 30 % flip a coin

how are prices at dutil?

[Expresso]

Ideally, anything below $200 if possible. I'm going to give those brands a try and see which fits best for me.

I'm convinced that I should try out raw as well. Could I have some recommendations as well? (I have googled some brands but I have no idea what's good and not).

For raw denim, other options would be anything from abcdenim like Big John, Tellason, Rogue Territory. Really curious about Big John especially with their history and from Japan. Or consider spending $50 more and get some 3sixteens from Self Edge or use a coupon code if you can and get it from Revolve.

[PJ]

lol i guess aslong as they dont look like runners i guess il do that

i normally buy my n&f online or at pauls dont forget every 13th they have a sale on 13 or 30 % flip a coin

how are prices at dutil?

Dutil's all MSRP, not many sales there, I find.

But they're kind of the go-to place if there's a specific pair you're looking for.

[FOREVER]

What's the best way to keep jeans from fading onto shoes? :okay:

[unit]

dont wear white shoes

[Energy]

What's the best way to keep jeans from fading onto shoes? :okay:

Cuff them to minimize stains.

[zetazeta]

Ideally, anything below $200 if possible. I'm going to give those brands a try and see which fits best for me.

I'm convinced that I should try out raw as well. Could I have some recommendations as well? (I have googled some brands but I have no idea what's good and not).

Imo, raw jeans shouldn't be 'treasured' but worn out, because it's only then that you get really nice jeans. For my first pair of raws (first pair of expensive denim), I was always careful wearing it and after a year ish, the fades were still very minimal. Got another pair a while later, and wore them out and after a year-ish, it had much nicer and more distinct fades.

For your first pair of raws, I would give N&F a shot. If you are interested in crazy fades, then do some research to see which colours fade better (iirc, regular indigo fades pretty slow). Other good first-pair brands are APC, Nudies and unbranded (sold at Urban Outfitters and I think Plenty)

Non raw jeans: I like wings + horns and LVC (Levis vintage clothing). Other nice ones that are a bit pricier are PRPS and Dior Homme.

[PJ]

Just started a Nudie Grim Tim 46-dip selvedge.. and holy fuck are these stiff.
Wish me luck :concentrate:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-AiM2fd4WErs/T1-XUIs74WI/AAAAAAAAGRM/yywFVcg2aSc/s1600/7951000.1b.JPG

[Energy]

Those look crispy. I miss that feeling lol.

[hongy]

I have a pair of naked and famous weird guys that's about it hit 5 years this december... And then a second (or third, I honestly don't remember) crotch tear appears.... should I even fix them lol.

[instantneedles]

I have a pair of naked and famous weird guys that's about it hit 5 years this december... And then a second (or third, I honestly don't remember) crotch tear appears.... should I even fix them lol.

lol serious? so it actually tore through the patch?

i'd just get a new pair man haha 5 years is antique

[CorneringArtist]

Just picked up a pair of NF Slim Guy Tweed Selvedge via Tate and Yoko. 40 waist so I jumped on that shit. Can't wait to switch from generic jeans haha. I get it might fit a little slim, but that's what the wear-in period is for right?

[PJ]

Those look crispy. I miss that feeling lol.

So. Damn. Stiff.

This is my first new pair in almost 2 years, I forgot how rough fresh raw denim is.

It feels like wearing cardboard. I sized down too, so this is going to take quite a bit of work to break in.

[dasani604]

Got a pair of Levi's Made and Crafted black jeans from Dutil. It feels great and it has the right tightness/tapered look.

Didn't have enough time to find a blue pair but I'll look more into N&F. Thanks for all the help guys.

[Mike Oxbig]

What are you guy's experience with suede shoes and raw jeans?

Does the denim color bleed on to the suede if it rains? I have a pair of 8.5 clark's desert boot in beewax, which im going to be posting to sell and get a pair of the clark's gray distressed suede.

[dual]

What are you guy's experience with suede shoes and raw jeans?

Does the denim color bleed on to the suede if it rains? I have a pair of 8.5 clark's desert boot in beewax, which im going to be posting to sell and get a pair of the clark's gray distressed suede.

Yeah the ink will bleed like any other material. It just depends on how 'bleedy' the jeans are. You probably shouldn't be wearing suede in the rain anyways since suede gets stained by water.

[zetazeta]

ugh my APC PS stretched so much in the thigh area... looks baggy as fuck. Might sell it and get a 28..

On the other hand... any suggestions as to what type of boots look nice with raws? I'm currently looking into H by Hudson, wolverine, and maybe clark's DB's. Preferably chukkas or db's.

[kazuki]

I think h by hudson is awesome for the price.

[Energy]

^^ Yeah in my experience APCs don't really keep their shape well over time.

[ForbiddenX]

Check out Red Wing boots as well. They've got quality boots.

From simpletrheads (simplethreads.co) :
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7188/6813185516_364b689a2b_b.jpg

They have a lot of different styles too.

Looking at getting 875's sometime this week! They have a store right across metro

[J.C]

thinking about trying out some raw denim i have a few questions

do i wash them regularly?
is it worth going raw if i just wear these normally? i tend to never drop anything on my jeans or damage them. so there's not going to be a lot of personalization

sorry for the noob questions

[ForbiddenX]

thinking about trying out some raw denim i have a few questions

do i wash them regularly?
is it worth going raw if i just wear these normally? i tend to never drop anything on my jeans or damage them. so there's not going to be a lot of personalization

sorry for the noob questions

It's really up to you how you want to take care of your jeans. The more often you wash them the "healthier" the jeans are, less bacteria build up, less stronger fibers, etc. If you choose not to wash them regularly your fades will be of higher contrast.

I personally choose to hold off on washing and have only washed my pair of N&F once since I've had them. I've been wearing my Tellason's almost every day for a month and a bit now with no washes.

No need to worry about dropping stuff on the jeans or damaging them to give it personalization, just wearing them the way you want to will give it it's own character.

Check out:
ABC Denim (http://blog.abcdenim.com)
Rawr Denim (http://rawrdenim.com)

Great resources for some raw denim ;)

[Expresso]

thinking about trying out some raw denim i have a few questions

do i wash them regularly?
is it worth going raw if i just wear these normally? i tend to never drop anything on my jeans or damage them. so there's not going to be a lot of personalization

sorry for the noob questions
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If you are not concerned about the process or personalization then try a pair of first. Cause you might not like the feel. Cause it'll take a while before they get comfortable. So if you aren't liking them then go for non raw stuff.

[J.C]

how is naked & famous? very interested in getting a pair of them

also, where can i get them cheapest?

[buddy]

Check out Red Wing boots as well. They've got quality boots.

From simpletrheads (simplethreads.co) :
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7188/6813185516_364b689a2b_b.jpg

They have a lot of different styles too.

Looking at getting 875's sometime this week! They have a store right across metro

Red Wing's cool, but I am thinking Danner boots

http://stumptown.danner.com/lfi-catalog/stumptown/product/style/30825

[PJ]

how is naked & famous? very interested in getting a pair of them

also, where can i get them cheapest?

Naked&Famous is probably the most readily available raw denim you can get, for the best price. You can find them at Holt Renfrew, Plenty, Hills, Dutil, BoysCo.. anywhere. Average price is I think $150? I've seen some on sale for around $100.

Also check out Unbranded. They're made by Naked&Famous. Doesn't have any branding on it, just solid raw denim. I think I saw some at Below the Belt for $80. For the price, these should be a no-brainer. Especially if they're your first pair of raws.

My first pair of raw denim was Unbranded, I still wear them every now and then.

[ForbiddenX]

Red Wing's cool, but I am thinking Danner boots

http://stumptown.danner.com/lfi-catalog/stumptown/product/style/30825

Does are some pretty nice boots! Might have to think about getting a pair of them now lol

[buddy]

^

more styles to choose from:

Danner - Stumptown (http://stumptown.danner.com/)

I wonder if anyone knows any local store carries them ...

[ForbiddenX]

Pretty sweet website haha. I might pick up a pair when I head to NYC or when I go to Portland.

In the mean time I ended up getting the Red Wing 875s! Really comfy boots. Quality is top notch!


Only pic I have of them right now :P
http://distilleryimage11.instagram.com/0d9b257e07f511e2aa6822000a1ea033_7.jpg

[Energy]

Nice. I'm wondering how many times you cuffed the hems?

[ForbiddenX]

A little bit too much, it's cuffed maybe 4-5 times. Want to keep the chain stitching on this pair so I'm waiting until I can get them hemmed at Self Edge when I go there in Oct.

[CorneringArtist]

So my NF's came in. 40 waist is surprisingly loose in the calves, considering mine are pretty big (rugby player's legs). Just need to wear them in a little more to loosen up the waist a tad. Other than that, they're comfortable as hell already, and I look forward to the end result once they're totally broken in!

[buddy]

Pretty sweet website haha. I might pick up a pair when I head to NYC or when I go to Portland.

In the mean time I ended up getting the Red Wing 875s! Really comfy boots. Quality is top notch!


Only pic I have of them right now :P
http://distilleryimage11.instagram.com/0d9b257e07f511e2aa6822000a1ea033_7.jpg

nice boots .. just in case if someone is looking for black ones ...

Red Wing 'Classic Moc' Boot | Nordstrom (http://shop.nordstrom.com/s/red-wing-classic-moc-boot/3102742?origin=category&BaseUrl=All+Men%27s+Sale)

[J.C]

what is a "tapered" fit?
is that where it is wider in the thighs and it goes slimmer below?'

planning to find some weird guy left hand twill selvedge as my first pair

[ForbiddenX]

^Yea that's exactly what a tapered fit is. That's also a nice first pair of raw denim!

Pretty good interview with Brandon Svarc about Nakend&Famous:
Brandon Svarc Likes It Raw — An Interview with the Founder of Naked & Famous | Hypebeast (http://hypebeast.com/2012/09/brandon-svarc-likes-it-raw-an-interview-with-the-founder-of-naked-famous/)

[J.C]

i tried out the weird guy dirty fades today and holy crap they're stiff, probably won't get getting anything above 14oz
i also saw some nudie jeans that felt really comfortable and looked nice, but didn't get a chance to try them on

[PJ]

Remember not all Nudies are raw

[incubus]

forbidden where did you get your jeans stacked/ hemmed

[ForbiddenX]

I got my N&F jeans hemmed at this place on 45th and Fraser called Centre Laundry.

The lady has always hemmed my jeans!

[zetazeta]

Probably gna get a mij dior 19cm's in sz 28 as soon as I can find one for sale. Fml LVR doesn't stock mij's anymore :( :(

[RESN]

To those who are in the market for a new pair of jeans, I am getting a new shipment of APC PS's again. Many RS members here have purchased these from me, have had no problems.

[Energy]

What sizes are you getting?

[daval]

I do have two pairs of diors for sale and a pair of cut-off new standard shorts. Feel free to pm me for detail.

[RESN]

What sizes are you getting?

I'll be getting sizes 29-32

[ForbiddenX]

How much were they again? I might actually get a 29 this time lol

[exdee]

only thing i hate about sizing down on apcs is that your ass pocket looks smaller -_-

[Energy]

I'll be getting sizes 29-32

Aww I wish you had smaller sizes. I'm not too familiar with sizing for those but my apc ns from 3 years ago is a size 26 sized down 3 sizes.

[RESN]

I can order your particular size if you like, its just I don't get many orders in sizes smaller than 28

[PJ]

Was bored at work today and took a walk over to Dutil to look around.
And holy fawk, one of the workers there is a hottie.

That is all.
/coolstorybro

[areyounoob]

Yeah whenever I call or email them its always a girl replying lol
/coolstorybro

[G]

Hopefully this works or else I look like a retard.

http://i.imgur.com/figCh.jpg

Imgur doesn't work on iPhone, at least for me it doesn't :( but got the pic working now :lawl:
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[PJ]

^ :lawl:
Try imgur?

imgur: the simple image sharer (http://www.imgur.com)
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[Energy]

Ooooh pink means Momotaro.

[Gerbs]

how much do u guys normally pay for nudies?

[PJ]

I have 1 pair of raw Grim Tim and 2 pairs of non-raw, Slim Jim and Thin Finn. Bought them all on sale.
I paid roughly 150 for the raws, and 100 for the nons.

As much as I love denim, I can't get myself to pay over $150 for a pair of jeans.

[Energy]

^ You know what, I'm starting to feel the same way. I used to love super premium raw denim in the $300 range but now I feel like my next pair will be some simple Levi's.

[incubus]

those with clarks db hows the sizing/ fit?

cant pick on color between beeswax or oakwood haha

[ForbiddenX]

I wear 8.5 for Vans/Nikes and I got 7.5 for my Desert Boots. I personally went with the beeswax but want a pair of oakwoods as well lol

[ToddPacker]

those with clarks db hows the sizing/ fit?

cant pick on color between beeswax or oakwood haha

size down 1 from your true size.

beeswax leather is better for fall as it's more water resistant

oakwood suede is a great color, very versatile.


both are easy to style and wear with, can dress up or down.

[unit]

^ You know what, I'm starting to feel the same way. I used to love super premium raw denim in the $300 range but now I feel like my next pair will be some simple Levi's.

no hate on levis i just hate recognizable branding on clothes, so that red patch and stitching kills it for me. i hear where you guys are coming from with denim though. after spending $350 on my last 3 pairs and not having them last more than 2-3 years tops before needing serious repairs, im starting to think $300 denim is nowhere near as worth it as say, $300 shoes.

[hundredone]

Ive been wanting to try out naked and famous,, but levis STF is just too awesome. I can can like 4 pairs of levis for 1 pair of naked and famous lol

unit: i hate that levis red tab, stitching and the patch as well. It looks bad so i take it all off.

These Levis STF 501 cost me $36 on sale. For levis shrink to fit, the waist doesnt really shrink, but length shrinks about 2 inches. I actually sized 1 down on the waist, usually wear 31 waist straight leg and 32 in skinny leg. Im wearing 30x36 which shrunk to 30x34. Heres a fit picture of my levis stf 501 with all the tags taken off. What do you guys think of fit?

http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i236/vvind/clothing/levis30x36soaked_zpsfb2c6409.jpg

[PJ]

no hate on levis i just hate recognizable branding on clothes, so that red patch and stitching kills it for me.

Levi's and Nudie are the only jeans I have with distinct branding. But I actually respect what the brands stand for - which in turn, I don't mind sporting their logos.

Then there's flashy logos that are just flashy for the sake of being flashy. I'd take a pair of blank N&F over those any day.

[unit]

no hipster but i think nudie is getting up there with being one of those recognizable brands that are a little too mainstream.

not saying its a bad brand but once a brand gets too popular, people who buy clothes just for names sake start buying it to show off the logo and it waters the brand down. same thing happens with all popular recognizable brands that are trends. just my opinion!

hundredone: i think the fit is ok. its about the right looseness for your body proportion.

[bcedhk]

well as long as the fit is good, branding for me, at least, is not that big of an isssue. Heck, if true religion had better fits and quality, i would wear them.

Currently breaking in a pair of Japan Blue's (same as momotoro). been rotating 3 pairs of n&f wierd's for around 3 years now and decided it was time to 'upgrade'. So far, fit is great and the material feels like it will last me a lot longer than n&f.

[woob]

Note on CDBs: crepe soles absorb water so as waterproof the outside leather may be, you'll still get wet through the sole. Clark's Bushacre may be a better choice for Vancouverite since it has a rubber sole instead of crepe. And I guess I'm just not a fan of how crepe looks in general.

[MindBomber]

I have 1 pair of raw Grim Tim and 2 pairs of non-raw, Slim Jim and Thin Finn. Bought them all on sale.
I paid roughly 150 for the raws, and 100 for the nons.

As much as I love denim, I can't get myself to pay over $150 for a pair of jeans.

^ You know what, I'm starting to feel the same way. I used to love super premium raw denim in the $300 range but now I feel like my next pair will be some simple Levi's.

My thoughts,

the overall difference in quality narrows and the separation between price points widens the further one climbs the retail ladder.

A $150 pair of jeans may have a 100% improvement in quality over a $60 pair,
but a $200 pair of jeans may only have a 25% improvement in quality over a $150 pair,
and a $300 pair of jeans may only have a 10% improvement in quality over a $200 pair.

I'm quite happy with the quality of N&F; I can appreciate the quality of the more expensive brands if I sit down and pay attention, but in day to day wear, I honestly don't notice the difference. I would rather purchase the mid-tier brand that is good but not amazing quality, and dedicate the savings towards other pieces, travel, eating out, etc.

[Energy]

Haha diminishing returns in raw denim. It's true though.

[areyounoob]

As much as I love my Japan Blues, I'm probably not going to buy another pair of this expensive raw denim. I can't justify it. I don't know how I justified spending $225 on these. I love them to death but they're just jeans. Jeans are just jeans. Hell, my twill rigid Levis are fading too. And it's weird to think that wearing jeans becomes a chore when you wear them everyday, but for some reason, it just does. As easy as it is to just slap on the same jeans everyday without thought, it becomes a chore, yet I find myself doing it repeatedly.

I'll probably wait for another pair of N&F to go on sale next time. My first pair of raw denim were N&Fs, and I got them for $40 right after Christmas. Best investment I've ever made.

Also, there's more woolite free samples. The only hump now is that you have to like a page on facebook. Woolite® Laundry Detergent Official Site: Liquid Detergent & Fabric Care (http://www.woolite.ca/en/) I don't use woolite, but it may interest those that do.

[Expresso]

I try to look for denim that pay attention to the small details things like reinforced pocket lining, hidden rivets, selvedge fly, etc... Unfortunately mainly pricer ones do. Hopefully someone can incorporate the small details in a reasonable price in the future.

[zetazeta]

Well, in addition to quality, there is also things that are unique regarding each brand of jeans. For example, APC fades easily and distinctively

Personally, I love DH as it has the nicest slim fitting cut for me (as well as a unique 38' inseam). Quality wise, it definitely isn't worth it, but the fit and fades are amazing!

[Energy]

^^ Same here. Its the details that count. Everything you mentioned plus the quality of the hardware- all the buttons, plated rivets, etc. Maybe some darting in key locations, hand dyed denim, chain stitched hems, completely hand made denim. I find that cheaper denim tends to lose their shape easily too.

Unfortunately, I'm doing school full time right now with no job so my disposable income is quite small and I can't justify getting a new pair if my current pair is still ok although its needing more and more repairs.

Which is kind of a good thing because I'll just keep wearing my current pair and make it look even better lol. I miss the stiffness and color of brand new raw denim though.

[daval]

have a pair of APC New Standard cut-off shorts in size 29 for sale. Nice fade too.

Also, i usually tailor my suits at that store right across oakridge, but for jeans altering, you guys recommend any places?

I need to make the bottom hem skinnier.

[Expresso]

^^ Same here. Its the details that count. Everything you mentioned plus the quality of the hardware- all the buttons, plated rivets, etc. Maybe some darting in key locations, hand dyed denim, chain stitched hems, completely hand made denim. I find that cheaper denim tends to lose their shape easily too.

Unfortunately, I'm doing school full time right now with no job so my disposable income is quite small and I can't justify getting a new pair if my current pair is still ok although its needing more and more repairs.

Which is kind of a good thing because I'll just keep wearing my current pair and make it look even better lol. I miss the stiffness and color of brand new raw denim though.
Feel the same way. I cant wear denim to work so it takes a loooong time for me to put any fades on them. I'm still working in a pair of NF for over year plus and they have barely any fades lol. So I might get a new pair once every 2 or 3 years.

[zetazeta]

^^ Same here. Its the details that count. Everything you mentioned plus the quality of the hardware- all the buttons, plated rivets, etc. Maybe some darting in key locations, hand dyed denim, chain stitched hems, completely hand made denim. I find that cheaper denim tends to lose their shape easily too.

Unfortunately, I'm doing school full time right now with no job so my disposable income is quite small and I can't justify getting a new pair if my current pair is still ok although its needing more and more repairs.

Which is kind of a good thing because I'll just keep wearing my current pair and make it look even better lol. I miss the stiffness and color of brand new raw denim though.

It just sucks that all those small details that make the pair of jeans unique, skyrocket the price :( Still hunting for a pair of 28 MIJ raws to finish off my collection!

Oh man, I was in your shoes as well during my 2nd/3rd year. Gladly internship and co-ops in my 3rd/4th year gave me a bit of disposible income to spend on jeans :fullofwin:

[unit]

My thoughts,

the overall difference in quality narrows and the separation between price points widens the further one climbs the retail ladder.

A $150 pair of jeans may have a 100% improvement in quality over a $60 pair,
but a $200 pair of jeans may only have a 25% improvement in quality over a $150 pair,
and a $300 pair of jeans may only have a 10% improvement in quality over a $200 pair.

I'm quite happy with the quality of N&F; I can appreciate the quality of the more expensive brands if I sit down and pay attention, but in day to day wear, I honestly don't notice the difference. I would rather purchase the mid-tier brand that is good but not amazing quality, and dedicate the savings towards other pieces, travel, eating out, etc.

luxury goods are not about value.

[zetazeta]

Has anyone here experimented with dying the stitching on a pair of jeans?

I'm not too big of a fan of contrast stitching and am wondering if its possible to dye it to look like tonal stitching. In particular, APC's.

[MindBomber]

luxury goods are not about value.

If it were about value, I would buy exclusively unbranded denim.

It's not about value, it's about logically allocating the finite pool of funds dedicated to discretionary spending to produce the greatest overall pleasure.

If I settle for mid-tier selvedge denim, I do feel a bit of a sense of missing out on the fabulous subtle details of high-tier selvedge denim. Settling enables me to indulge multiple interests simultaneously instead of choosing one over the other however, and in the end, I'm more happy with denim and something else as well. That's just me though, we're all different. I also have ridiculously expensive interests, so it's sort of a necessity to pursue them all actively.

[unit]

It's not about value, it's about logically allocating the finite pool of funds dedicated to discretionary spending to produce the greatest overall pleasure.


getting the most for the least... sounds like value to me.

[Isaiah11]

what are your expert opinions on Cheap Monday jeans? mediocre at best?

I just love that skull

[Expresso]

what are your expert opinions on Cheap Monday jeans? mediocre at best?

I just love that skull

At that price, I get unbranded. From what I've read they don't fade easy so you are putting a lot of work and not much reward.

But if you want them for just the skull, why not they are very affordable.

[Isaiah11]

that's a good thing if they don't fade if I get a black pair though right? no sarcasm

[areyounoob]

uhh..
if you want fades that's a bad thing. if you dont want fades thats a good thing?
but i kind of like black jean fades.

The fades on these Cheap Mondays are incredible, though. http://www.denimarchive.com/2010/06/17/cheap-monday-tight-original-unwash-2/

[Energy]

It just sucks that all those small details that make the pair of jeans unique, skyrocket the price :( Still hunting for a pair of 28 MIJ raws to finish off my collection!

Oh man, I was in your shoes as well during my 2nd/3rd year. Gladly internship and co-ops in my 3rd/4th year gave me a bit of disposible income to spend on jeans :fullofwin:

Yeah, grad school is different from undergrad. I didn't care too much about where my money went back then... car mods, clothes, toys, social stuff. But my priorities have changed a bit.

Oh and update. Gave them a soak. Its been almost 2 years now and this pair is still going strong. They look amazing in the sun. But man all those little repairs start adding up haha.
http://i479.photobucket.com/albums/rr153/randomstuffaccount/A32B35F9-0FD5-4F18-AC2F-6A908AB031C3-39161-00001C9BA6FF50C5.jpg
http://i479.photobucket.com/albums/rr153/randomstuffaccount/7823BBC9-37A1-4132-9DC8-621BB2E563E1-39161-00001C9BB2F59EC1.jpg
http://i479.photobucket.com/albums/rr153/randomstuffaccount/3476D55B-B880-46BD-94AE-7B43AB2FD855-39161-00001C9BBB84D4A5.jpg
http://i479.photobucket.com/albums/rr153/randomstuffaccount/7C8353BE-5FC1-45AC-9317-E037A61E709E-39161-00001C9BC1B2F50A.jpg
http://i479.photobucket.com/albums/rr153/randomstuffaccount/22BB8328-7F1B-4B88-A23D-2E9D1ADAE0B4-39161-00001C9BCA8C1D6A.jpg
http://i479.photobucket.com/albums/rr153/randomstuffaccount/4E745812-D657-4265-B042-20961F1B6822-39161-00001C9BD916FFB5.jpg
http://i479.photobucket.com/albums/rr153/randomstuffaccount/30407B9E-77DB-4585-84C3-8F105BFA5A74-39161-00001C9BE581436C.jpg
http://i479.photobucket.com/albums/rr153/randomstuffaccount/409A04D0-DA9F-448B-98B0-D04AA2569A12-39161-00001C9BDF8B5A6C.jpg

[hongy]

^^
Energy what are those? And god damn I regret not buying a pair of diors when I could.

[Expresso]

I think they are somets
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[Energy]

Yup, Somet 008. Fits really great and feels good to wear which is why I've stuck with them for so long.

[areyounoob]

:ahwow:
Those stacks.. my god those stacks.

[woob]

That is Fade Friday worthy hot damn.

[Razor Ramon HG]

I spilled red pepper oil all over my APCs at work the other day.. Resolve spray didn't work. So I had to throw it in the washer.

Noob me forgot to put it on cold water mode. Then afterwards, not sure if the oils came out and I really wanted to put them back on... threw them in the dryer.

Result... tight ass jeans, FUUUUUUUUU! But first wash in over a year, so it's okay I guess... hahahaha

[zetazeta]

I spilled red pepper oil all over my APCs at work the other day.. Resolve spray didn't work. So I had to throw it in the washer.

Noob me forgot to put it on cold water mode. Then afterwards, not sure if the oils came out and I really wanted to put them back on... threw them in the dryer.

Result... tight ass jeans, FUUUUUUUUU! But first wash in over a year, so it's okay I guess... hahahaha

Same here... i spilled red pepper oil and sriracha sauce on my fave blue oxford shirt.... tried everything and it wouldn't wash off :( Time to save up for another one...

[Energy]

Got some Wings + Horns slim fit denim so its time to start a new project and let my Somets rest for a bit!

[unit]

same here they actually fit really well for me but just so long as they dont stretch a whole lot.

[Energy]

Yeah, fits great now maybe a little bit tight but I'll see if it stretches as bad as APC and looses shape.

[PJ]

APC and N&F stretch like fawk.

Contrary to what people say, my raw Nudie Grims have actually been staying pretty consistent with no stretching.

[kcl38]

Saw a friend of mine downtown. He's a big guy (6'6, 250) and has never spent more than $40 on a pair of jeans. When I saw him he was complaining about how he couldn't find a 36 inseam anywhere so I sent him to Dutil.

Saw him today rocking some new N&F and he was super stoked on raw denim.

:victory:

[Calbeee]

Saw a friend of mine downtown. He's a big guy (6'6, 250) and has never spent more than $40 on a pair of jeans. When I saw him he was complaining about how he couldn't find a 36 inseam anywhere so I sent him to Dutil.

Saw him today rocking some new N&F and he was super stoked on raw denim.

:victory:

n&f is such good denim for the money you pay.

too bad i can never find one that fits well one me

[incubus]

love nf and dutil

did anyone pick up the idc collab yesterday?

have too many n&f need to try another brand lol

[zetazeta]

Converted another frd to raw denim!!

[keitaro]

Was hoping to get some NF Elephant 2s at Dutil today. Apparently it's special order item. It seems to be discontinued on NF website for the WG. Hopefully they got some 32s in the warehouse still. So wanting some heavy selvedge..

[Isaiah11]

I need more tapered jeans

[areyounoob]

Does anyone know the paint that Evisu or Momotaro uses on the seagull/battle stripes?

[woob]

Most likely acrylic or latex since it stays through washes.

[Meowjin]

I'm in serious need of some denim without breaking the bank. Any suggestions?

Dutil is the place to go?

actually just reading about dutil, it's not time yet. I still got a ways to go with my fitness goals.

hmm ebay again it is.

[keitaro]

So Naked and Famous doesn't have any Elephant 2 any more until August 2013. Can anyone recommend some heavy selvedge denim for winter?

Thanks!

[G]

Not sure if people know about this site but blue owl workshop is a really good provider of raw denim and etc. They have fair prices and it's I think 5-10$ shipping to Canada...
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[woob]

I'm in serious need of some denim without breaking the bank. Any suggestions?

Dutil is the place to go?

actually just reading about dutil, it's not time yet. I still got a ways to go with my fitness goals.

hmm ebay again it is.

If you are looking for entry-level selvedge, start with Unbranded or Uniqlo MIJ ($80-90).

Or for non-selvedge, but still raw, any of Levi's "Rigid" jeans (50-60).

[incubus]

Not sure if people know about this site but blue owl workshop is a really good provider of raw denim and etc. They have fair prices and it's I think 5-10$ shipping to Canada...
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noticed that site to, if i dont go dutil or pauls, karmaloop and codes :fullofwin:

[kcl38]

Got caught in the rain today with my APCs. Legs are currently stained blue. :okay:

[RESN]

Getting more APC PS sizes 29-31 soon (MAYBE 28's too) Mostly Indigo, some black

[ForbiddenX]

Let me know if you get a 28 please

[keitaro]

Does anyone have any suggestions for some brown coloured boots that would work well with slim/skinny selvedge? Some boots for the winter season - rain, slush, snow).

[DemonsBlood]

red wing iron ranger? wolverine 1000?

[woob]

Dayton Service Boot, Bexley Enfield

[Hondaracer]

If you are looking for entry-level selvedge, start with Unbranded or Uniqlo MIJ ($80-90).

Or for non-selvedge, but still raw, any of Levi's "Rigid" jeans (50-60).

with a cheap pair such as the Levi`s can you still work in the fades

[unit]

red wing iron ranger? wolverine 1000?

yeah you dont really wanna wear nice leather shoes in the rain.
when its raining more than a drizzle i go out in canvas sneakers.

[MindBomber]

I have Red Wing Iron Rangers. I've spent ample amounts of time wearing them through the rain, snow, slush, a bit of mud, and heavy construction dust and they're just fine. They're made of basic boot leather, not paper... a bit of water won't hurt them.

I have other goods made of far more delicate leather, which again, despite some exposure to the rain, are just fine.

[unit]

so you're saying water has no effect on leather?

[Hondaracer]

so what would be a good starter pair of jeans to work in a fade etc? ive been reading up on information but havent really come across any direct info in terms of brands etc

i'm a bigger guy usually take a 34 or 36 waist so alot of jeans that are made for smaller people, those sizes are even tight for me but typically Buffalo, Guess, etc i'm usually 34/32

[areyounoob]

I think he's saying that while his boots are of leather material, his boots are still doing fine. Maybe your boots and his boots saw different scenarios of weather, or he oiled/conditioned his boots before wearing them, etc.

I remember when I first wore my crepe soled Clarks DBs out in the rain they were fine. I always heard people say that crepe soles + rain is a bad idea, but for the times that I wore them and still do in rain, I'm fine.

so what would be a good starter pair of jeans to work in a fade etc? ive been reading up on information but havent really come across any direct info in terms of brands etc

i'm a bigger guy usually take a 34 or 36 waist so alot of jeans that are made for smaller people, those sizes are even tight for me but typically Buffalo, Guess, etc i'm usually 34/32

You might want to check out Levis STF. If not you can look at N&F Weird Guys.

[MindBomber]

so you're saying water has no effect on leather?

No, of course not.

I'm saying, rain does not have an effect of any significance on sturdy leather boots. If you want them to maintain the same appearance as the day they were made, I guess you'd want to avoid rain, but in that case, you'd probably not want to wear them at all. That desire doesn't make leather boots inappropriate for wearing in the rain, though..

You're reading too much stuff on the internet.

[Energy]

I wear my good quality leather sneakers (w+h and CPs) in the rain and they're holding up nicely. I don't like shoes that look too clean anyway.

[woob]

Depends on the shoe/boot. For sneakers or boots, aw yeah a bit of dirt makes them look better imo.

But for anything dressy, e.g. Bexley Enfield or any dress shoe, I'll try to keep them out of the rain because I wouldn't use Sno-Seal or anything of the sort on them at all.

[unit]

mb: they're your boots, you can do whatever you want with them. just dont tell others not to care for theirs because of your standards for shoe care.

[keitaro]

I ended up getting some Red Wing Beckman's in Cigar Featherstone...after two years of deciding weather or not I wanted them lol. Awesome pair of boots. Smouldered Obenauf's heavy duty LP on it too.

[PJ]

Has anyone's raws gotten to the point where they feel very soft?

I have some left hand twill N&F's, about 1.5 years old, never washed. But somehow they've softened up so much to the point where it feels as soft as a pair of Sevens or something.

I have older Nudies and Unbranded that don't feel this soft. Maybe it's the left hand twill? :suspicious:

[areyounoob]

Has anyone's raws gotten to the point where they feel very soft?

I have some left hand twill N&F's, about 1.5 years old, never washed. But somehow they've softened up so much to the point where it feels as soft as a pair of Sevens or something.

I have older Nudies and Unbranded that don't feel this soft. Maybe it's the left hand twill? :suspicious:

How many times have you soaked/washed them? My N&F ones because soft after the third soak. It could be because all the starch is washed out.
Another reason could be that you simply wore the shit out of all of it. :fullofwin:

[woob]

Tate+Yoko Black Friday deals on denim: Tate + Yoko (http://www.tateandyoko.com/app/webroot/blog/)

Has anyone's raws gotten to the point where they feel very soft?

I have some left hand twill N&F's, about 1.5 years old, never washed. But somehow they've softened up so much to the point where it feels as soft as a pair of Sevens or something.

I have older Nudies and Unbranded that don't feel this soft. Maybe it's the left hand twill? :suspicious:

Might be the denim weight.

[PJ]

How many times have you soaked/washed them?
Never soaked/washed. Just did the good old freeze n febreeze


Might be the denim weight.

This is what I'm thinking. Might just simply be a lighter weight.

[Hondaracer]

Bought two pairs of Levi's rigid today at the bay, 30% off regular prices = one pair 49 and other was 54 :D
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[RevYouUp]

show us some fade pics PJ! :)

[PJ]

^That's another odd thing. This particular pair hasn't faded that much lol :suspicious:

Maybe I'll post em tomorrow regardless.

[fs604]

i think they become softer because of the bacteria/not washing it?

mine were really soft too and it felt like.. too gross for me to wear anymore without washing.


pre wash 13months 1 soak
http://distilleryimage11.s3.amazonaws.com/3bc92dcc368211e2b22122000a9f12bd_7.jpg

water turn green/yellow :heckno:
post wash 13months 2 soaks
http://distilleryimage5.s3.amazonaws.com/d3436a40374611e2af9022000a1f9a23_7.jpg
different lighting and i dont know if its just me but i can see like.. the softness vs roughness in post wash?

[areyounoob]

:lawl:

http://i.imgur.com/IvYLp.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/oBjFW.jpg

This was my pair in the tub months after their first machine wash. That grimey water :lawl::joy:

[kcl38]

Long story short - over last 8 months combination of not caring what I eat + lifting pretty heavy in the gym = my APCs are getting too tight in the thighs.

Any suggestions for a cheap pair of jeans to take their place over the next little bit while I get my legs back down to an appropriate size? I have a pair of N&F skinny guys in Black Power Stretch that fit pretty well, and also a pair of Joe Fresh denim that are black and like 3% stretch material (so stretch material has been doing well for me). Would get another pair of N&F but I don't want to spend more than $100 on this pair, and the indigo Joe Fresh jeans aren't stretch.

[G]

Hello from Blue Owl,



Twice a year, we do a store wide sale to say “thank you” to our loyal customers. It is because of all of you that we are able to continue to grow, expand our labels, and bring the highest quality items that we hope all of you appreciate it. “Thank you” for your continued support which allows these changes to happen! One very important announcement to those who do not know already, we have a new location. We have moved to the Fremont neighborhood in Seattle. For those in Seattle area or visiting come check out our new space! We continue to operate via appointment only, just e-mail or call us so we know to expect you!



We are proud to announce the Blue Owl Customer Appreciate Sale. This is a private sale exclusively for our customers and will not be advertised. Sale begins today and will end Monday December 3rd, 2012 at 11:59pm Seattle time. Sale includes the following:

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• 25% Off Everything Else (t-shirts, sweatshirts, hoodies, jackets, button downs, knits, etc.)

• Current sale items will receive the above discounts (so a currently discounted denim will receive additional 15% off)

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• BOW points cannot be applied to this sale, but they will be earned

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[ForbiddenX]

Tellason's ripped a little in the crotch area :okay:

[Expresso]

Thought this was interesting. Unbranded 21oz.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-qiyA8sYdT20/UD-SfKH7yzI/AAAAAAAAIFw/7Yu22PaRrcc/s1600/UBA.jpg
Unbranded 21oz Super Heavy Weight Raw Selvedge: Early December! | Blue Owl Workshop (http://www.blueowlworkshop.blogspot.ca/2012/11/unbranded-21oz-super-heavy-weight-raw.html)

[PJ]

Unbranded is legit.

Strangely enough, I like my Unbranded more than my N&F's :lawl:

[unit]

i tried them on thought they fit really odd on me. really wanted to like them but just couldnt.

[woob]

I didn't wear my raw jawnz today. I felt like I was cheating on them.

[Energy]

i tried them on thought they fit really odd on me. really wanted to like them but just couldnt.

Yeah, I bought a black pair but didn't like the color or the fit so I resold them.

[Calbeee]

super interested in those Unbranded 21oz..

how do their skinnies fit like in comparison with levi 511 and nudie thin finns?

[woob]

I have the N&F Skinnies (same measurements) and a few pairs of 511s. They fit more or less the same as Levi's 511. Maybe a slightly smaller thigh but that's all.

[Calbeee]

I have the N&F Skinnies (same measurements) and a few pairs of 511s. They fit more or less the same as Levi's 511. Maybe a slightly smaller thigh but that's all.

oops i meant the 510s

[woob]

I guess you could just measure your jeans and compare them to BlueOwl's measurements. (http://blueowl.us/scripts/psp/VB_Bridge3.dll?VBPROG=\bin\shop.prodt.detail&SKU=7991202)

[Groot]

Bought first pair of Raw denim....wearing it for the first day today and having the hardest time breathing right now LOL
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[tmc22]

Bought first pair of Raw denim....wearing it for the first day today and having the hardest time breathing right now LOL
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Same thing here, bought a pair of Unbranded today, and my balls are suffocating.. :heckno:

[RESN]

SOLD!
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Getting new shipment for the new year. Start the new year with new denim ;). I will be getting New Standards as well this time around, so PM me your sizes and I can keep them for you. I will have both Petite Standards and New Standards. Price is $150 as usual. Many RS members can vouch for me on these jeans

[Calbeee]

SOLD!
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Getting new shipment for the new year. Start the new year with new denim ;). I will be getting New Standards as well this time around, so PM me your sizes and I can keep them for you. I will have both Petite Standards and New Standards. Price is $150 as usual. Many RS members can vouch for me on these jeans

im guessing i missed out on some kind of APC deal? pm me if you still have some deal going on



also, some of the jeans i want, (NF, APC, etc) the opening is a bit too wide for my liking, is it recommended to get them narrowed, or would that ruin the jean?

i like the fit of the nudies fin thinn a lot

[- kT]

long live the denim thrad.

[ForbiddenX]

im guessing i missed out on some kind of APC deal? pm me if you still have some deal going on



also, some of the jeans i want, (NF, APC, etc) the opening is a bit too wide for my liking, is it recommended to get them narrowed, or would that ruin the jean?

i like the fit of the nudies fin thinn a lot

I got that pair of APCs from RESN :D

You can taper the jeans and it shouldn't ruin them at all.
from abcdenim:
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ma64ddtt551qle6p0o1_1280.jpg

[Energy]

Selvage looks... different. Is it because of the taper?

[kristianhay]

im guessing i missed out on some kind of APC deal? pm me if you still have some deal going on



also, some of the jeans i want, (NF, APC, etc) the opening is a bit too wide for my liking, is it recommended to get them narrowed, or would that ruin the jean?

i like the fit of the nudies fin thinn a lot

I brought my N&F to the tailor and brought along another pair of jeans I liked and he narrowed them to match. Didn't ruin them at all!

[ForbiddenX]

Selvage looks... different. Is it because of the taper?

Yea, I guess the guy who got it tapered didn't want to lose the selvedge.

[Calbeee]

sweet! thanks for the replies guys. also for APCs how much do i want to downsize? the petite standards

[woob]

Yea, I guess the guy who got it tapered didn't want to lose the selvedge.

Can't they alter the inseam, though so as to keep the selvedge like new?

[RevYouUp]

sweet! thanks for the replies guys. also for APCs how much do i want to downsize? the petite standards

if you're buying from RESN i suggest you go down 1 size. I went true to size and they've stretched a little bit. However I still have a pretty decent fit..

[RESN]

I would suggest a size or 2. Personally I went down 2 and they still ended up being a bit loose now lol but maybe it's because I biked in them? Who knows

[EFSi]

where's do you guys take your denim to get tapered and how much did the charge?

[RESN]

I always go to Alberts Tailor in downtown.

470 Granville Street #227
Vancouver, BC V6C 1V5
(604) 683-2890

Nice family owned business and he gets shit done properly

[woob]

To anyone going to Alberts, call before you get there, because he doesn't always come in on time.

[Calbeee]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/533525_10152333754155436_369016794_n.jpg

hey guys just got these. what do you guys think of the fit, do i need to hem them? if so how much, and where would you guys suggest me take it to?

thanks

[zetazeta]

don't hem.

[unit]

i like hemming these days and got rid of the stacking on some of my jeans.
depends on what look you're going for and what shoes you plan to wear with them.
you really have to answer that question for yourself.

[bcedhk]

@ calbee. wait till you wear them for a few months and first wash. if there is still lots of stacking, then hem.

[kcl38]

I would cuff once because I don't like a ton of stacking but still some

[Calbeee]

thanks guys.

you guys have any specific preference for belts?

[RevYouUp]

keep the stacks, it looks great

[PJ]

I would hem a couple inches and then cuff it an inch. But that's just me. Too much stacking looks awkward imo.

Belts is all up to you.
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-6fDcXSHz62w/T_xpwf7gHOI/AAAAAAAAHWs/OQYiPezcYso/s1600/Tan_Belt%255B1%255D.JPG
If you get a natural-leather belt, the more you wear it, the more it will "patina".
That's the before/after of a Naked&Famous belt. Tanner's a popular choice for quality leather too.

Personally I don't care enough to have a fancy belt. I've been rocking a plain black Levi's belt for almost 2 years now lol

[fs604]

a lot of people get natural leather belt.
you can look at corter belts too as a little 'step down' from tanner.

[Calbeee]

I would hem a couple inches and then cuff it an inch. But that's just me. Too much stacking looks awkward imo.

Belts is all up to you.
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-6fDcXSHz62w/T_xpwf7gHOI/AAAAAAAAHWs/OQYiPezcYso/s1600/Tan_Belt%255B1%255D.JPG
If you get a natural-leather belt, the more you wear it, the more it will "patina".
That's the before/after of a Naked&Famous belt. Tanner's a popular choice for quality leather too.

Personally I don't care enough to have a fancy belt. I've been rocking a plain black Levi's belt for almost 2 years now lol

I love it! the tanner goods one looks really good too, but so damn expensive... is it a bad idea to use a natural belt with new raw denim?

i personally hate cuffs so i can't do that. i think i will hem them after a month or so

a lot of people get natural leather belt.
you can look at corter belts too as a little 'step down' from tanner.

corter makes nice stuff but i cannot stand the wait time because of the one-man company. i ordered one of the v2 bottle opener/keychain things and got it after 2 months or so..

if anyone is interested in that, let me know, cause i have no use for it anymore

[Expresso]

I love it! the tanner goods one looks really good too, but so damn expensive... is it a bad idea to use a natural belt with new raw denim?

If you don't want waits then Tanner might not be a good idea as they usually make to order unless you find one of their stockists. Naked and Famous has natural leather belts too, but not cheap.

Should be fine. it might bleed on the backside, but no big deal.

[zetazeta]

I love it! the tanner goods one looks really good too, but so damn expensive... is it a bad idea to use a natural belt with new raw denim?

i personally hate cuffs so i can't do that. i think i will hem them after a month or so



corter makes nice stuff but i cannot stand the wait time because of the one-man company. i ordered one of the v2 bottle opener/keychain things and got it after 2 months or so..

if anyone is interested in that, let me know, cause i have no use for it anymore


Yo bud, Tandy's leather in surrey makes these belts for 35$. I'm rocking one now and its sick!

and how much for the bottle opener :O

[Energy]

Where to buy cheap monday tight original unwashed? Its last minute and for my brother before I go back to Asia for the holidays.

[Calbeee]

Where to buy cheap monday tight original unwashed? Its last minute and for my brother before I go back to Asia for the holidays.

correct me if i am wrong but i remember buying them at plenty. but that was like 3-4 years ago

[PJ]

Yo bud, Tandy's leather in surrey makes these belts for 35$. I'm rocking one now and its sick!

and how much for the bottle opener :O

Wow.

Leathercraft and Leather Craft Supplies - Tandy Leather Factory (http://www.tandyleatherfactory.ca/en-cad/home/home.aspx)

Interested in checking this out. Maybe when I feel adventurous enough to venture out to Surrey... :lawl:

[areyounoob]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/430913_10151319204052369_1609144895_n.jpg
Just a heads up.

[Calbeee]

sucks working retail, cant go to any of these =.=

anyways, got my cousin to finally ditch his trues and get a pair of apcs :fullofwin:

[tmc22]

For those who went to Dutil on boxing day, how was the lineup? Oldest penny I found is 1962 :fullofwin: Anyone have one older??

[instantneedles]

i got a pair of nudies up for grabs size 31 if anyone's interested.

And lol, never really saw the value in pennies till now

[kcl38]

I know I have a few late 1800s pennies..
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[areyounoob]

inb4 selling old pennies

[Calbeee]

for you guys that went to dutil, are their belts on sale or only their denim?

also where do they sell penfield locally? wanna grab a vest

[exdee]

what are the sale prices like for n&f?

[LC21]

nudies/N&F barely go on sale at dutil

[RFlush]

Hey guys, what type of jeans would you recommend if I'm looking to purchase my first raw denim jeans. My stomach is quite big so I have to wear waist 34 but I'm 5'10.5 so if I get bigger jeans, the knee part is usually too low. I also have the problem that the waist pinches my front too much, but sag low and far in the rear. I tried some slimmer cuts (petit standard) but were to tight in the thighs and the crotch. My body shape is weird, I have African child syndrome where my stomach is big and so is my butt which makes my jeans hard to wear as they go high in the front and low in the back when sitting, but sag when standing. Any suggestions? Thanks
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[KingDeeCee]

Basically no tax for the N&F and 30% off the nudies. Lined up for 2 hours and ended up getting nothing.

They had Edwins for 50% off. All my sizes were gone though.

[zetazeta]

Dutil contest was pretty crazy... you have to have 1859 or older pennies to even get 50% off. The winning ones were all pre-canada era pennies (older than 1857).

Anyways... I have a pair of sz 30, APC New Standards.... lemme know if anyone needs. Brand new with tags. Bought em for my pops but grabbed the wrong size LOL, so I'm letting it off cheap.

[exdee]

winners were 1837 right behind me "province of canada"

[Calbeee]

any sales on belts at dutil? or were they all just jeans and no accessory sales.

i still really want that N&F belt after seeing how thick it is

[Farfetched]

^^ belt wise it's cheaper getting it made by a leather goods maker. much cheaper and who the hell is gonna look at the brand of your belt..

[Calbeee]

^^ belt wise it's cheaper getting it made by a leather goods maker. much cheaper and who the hell is gonna look at the brand of your belt..

yea i definitely wanna get the tandy's belt at a fraction of the cost but to lazy to venture out to surrey haha

[Farfetched]

tandys looks good, but there are others. i did a mail order from another place down in the states that was mentioned on rs a couple of years ago, i think. unfortunately don't recall the name. try doing a search.

[Calbeee]

Bridle Leather Belts (http://www.leathergoodsconnection.com/brlebe.html)

not sure if this is the one you're talking a bout but i got something from here. for that price i think its not bad

[RESN]

Hey guys, you know the deal. More Petite and New Standards.
Sizes I've got available
Petite Standards Indigo: 28, 29, 30, 31, 32
Petite Standards Black: 28,
New Standards Indigo: 29, 30
New Standards Black: N/A

sorry for lack of New Standards and Blacks. I will be doing a special order for a particular RS member, and if you don't see your size or color, I can include it with this order (shipping from Macau is expensive so help me help you! :D) Just please let me know before January 8th if you're firm on grabbing them. Thanks guys

[RacingMetro92]

http://assets.karmaloop.com/vendor/NKF/zoom/013992zoom1.jpg
Naked & Famous The Slim Guys Jeans in Selvedge Chino Beige : Karmaloop.com - Global Concrete Culture (http://www.karmaloop.com/product/The-Slim-Guys-Jeans-in-Selvedge-Chino-Beige/187896)

Picked these up for 90+ 20 in duty...so still cheaper than buying local (I don't know why I got dinged if they're made in Canada :okay:), and they brought the sale back from when I bought them which was 40%+ free ship. If you need some N&F's then this is your best bet.

[henrik33]

I have a pair of New standards but I'm unsure as when I wear them overtime it'll stretch too much. Currently it is tight to my waist but not too tight that it begins hurting my waist.

[unit]

if you can get them on without too much trouble they'll stretch out and be too big some day.

[RESN]

My rule with APC is you should barely be able to button up the top button

[Calbeee]

I have a pair of New standards but I'm unsure as when I wear them overtime it'll stretch too much. Currently it is tight to my waist but not too tight that it begins hurting my waist.

mine are a 27 and have stretched out to about a 30.5.

I could only button one button pulling it all the way up my waist when i first got it. now i can wear it below my waist, all 5 buttons with ease.



also, for those PS blacks, how do they "fade"?

[RESN]

Found a picture of this: http://mynudies.com/gallery/files/7/8/9/3cbdca10124c460d2d85deab69e9aed3.jpg

Don't know if they are PS, but I'm sure you can get the picture

[tmc22]

Picked up a pair of APC PS with the free pair of jeans I wont at dutil. Got a size 28 and have such a tough time putting on the buttons :okay:

[Calbeee]

Picked up a pair of APC PS with the free pair of jeans I wont at dutil. Got a size 28 and have such a tough time putting on the buttons :okay:


grats!

they'll get better. i had a hard time doing anything when i first got them. even crouching down the "honey combs" were cutting into the back of my knees haha

[Expresso]

dutil also got pbj's for half off right now.

[Calbeee]

any recommendations for places to hem my apcs? feel like i want to give them a bit of a hem

[areyounoob]

i really need to stop visitting this thread to keep me from buying a new pair of denim... :okay: :badpokerface:

[axxess]

My pair of hank reys already have a crotch blow, hasn't even been half a year. Fuck, me. Sigh, why does this keep happening to me.

[woob]

any recommendations for places to hem my apcs? feel like i want to give them a bit of a hem

Any decent tailor should be able to do this. I took mine to Albert's and he had mine done in 10 mins while I waited.


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From SuFu's Heavyweight Comp:

http://i1202.photobucket.com/albums/bb378/Dfreshleish/image-2_zpsd415d634.jpeg
http://i1202.photobucket.com/albums/bb378/Dfreshleish/image_1-3_zps11dbf3a2.jpeg

Link to Post (http://supertalk.superfuture.com/index.php?/topic/113711-competition-heavyweight-denim-championship-of-the-world-201112/page__st__4350#entry2871345).

IMO there are nicer, more appealing fades out there but I have never seen such crazy contrast on any pair of denim

[PJ]

The contrast is too extreme for my taste. Maybe it's the denim itself? Or maybe he sandpaper'd it :whistle:

[unit]

yeah i dont like it, looks too extreme.

[kcl38]

Anyone interested in a pair of APC Rescues? 36 waist, not hemmed (but cuffed). Worn around 3 months, but not daily. Whiskers just coming in.

[Calbeee]

yea its so extreme that it looks like one of those honger jeans that have crazy pre-fade/wash on them

[Energy]

Back looks good but something is off with the front, it doesn't look natural. Maybe the guy only ran in those jeans.

[kevin7352]

maybe cuz there's a tear in the fucking crotch area

[LC21]

Got me a pair of N&F weird guy Dirty fades, have to say they're pretty solid jeans. Too bad they're a little bit big on me. :suspicious:

[MonkeyKing]

Naked & Famous

[Calbeee]

Naked & Famous

:suspicious:

[unit]

kiya from self edge on jeans

http://httpthecrosbypressjackthreadscom20130104

i have to agree with his main point. jeans are tough and you dont have to be so caught up over how you take care of them. if they're dirty, wash em. if they're not, then dont.

i dont like to wash every 2 months but i have washed them gently before about 3 months apart (spilled on them). i just put them on the hand wash setting in my washer then hang dry em.

[RacingMetro92]

Naked & Famous

Someone is trying to get to 25 posts for Buy and Sell....:failed:

[MonkeyKing]

Someone is trying to get to 25 posts for Buy and Sell....:failed:

LOL sorry I thought we were naming brands of denim that we wear ...

[tmc22]

Hey, what do you guys think of the naked and famous natural leather belts? Is the price decent for a belt like that?