[willystyle]

Hmmm...

So with the Big guys and now Teksavvy charging for overages, is there anybody else we can fall back on to use as leverage against these guys?
If by guys, you mean small ISPs. The answer is NO.

The only way we can fight back now is to write letters to the CRTC and Industry Canada to raise awareness, as other have pointed out.

[unit]

nope, not at the moment. i say just dont sign any contracts right now and give it a little time to see what happens over the next month or two. most likely nothing will change tho and you'll have to live with it.

[Manic!]

Hmmm...

So with the Big guys and now Teksavvy charging for overages, is there anybody else we can fall back on to use as leverage against these guys?

Nope they got a Monopoly of sorts.

[ForbiddenX]

Guess I was a little too late in posting the link from Telus' FAQ they took it down lol

http://www.michaelgeist.ca/content/view/5608/196/

http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r25409871-Telus-on-qUnlimited-Internetq

[E_Fahlman]

today was the first I heard of this new UBB over lunch with my brother and it's really got me worried. I spoke with Shaw tonight to get an idea of average monthly data use and in October 2010 I was 368G and have been steadily above 250G since then. In Jan. alone I've used 59gigs in 9 days. My Billing cycle is the 22nd of each month!

Needless to say I'm fucked!

[tgill]

Liberals are making this an election issue. http://www.liberal.ca/ubb/

[Soundy]

Of course they are. If they were that worried about having even a slight chance of getting elected, they'd ditch Ignatief first :troll:

[Ch28]

Looks like this is really gaining a lot of steam the past couple of days


PmoSoudas (http://twitter.com/#%21/PmoSoudas) Dimitri Soudas
We're very concerned about CRTC's decision on usage-based billing and it impact on consumers. PM has asked for a review of the decision.

^ He's the Communications Director to Stephen Harper

[Ch28]

http://www.theprovince.com/Clement+hints+feds+reverse+Internet+billing+ruling/4205219/story.html

OTTAWA — Industry Minister Tony Clement hinted the Conservative government is leaning toward quashing last week's controversial decision by Canada's telecommunications regulator, which effectively kills unlimited Internet pricing packages.

[qwertyuiop]

http://www.cbc.ca/technology/story/2011/02/01/internet-usage-based-billing-clement.html

Prime Minister Stephen Harper requests review on CRTC decision, will decide before March 1st!

Keep the letters/emails/signatures going!

[freakshow]

If they DO keep up with the UBB, there is a better, cheaper way to get around the data transfer limits.

http://www.thepaltrysapien.com/2011/02/cheaper-than-the-internet-in-canada/

:D

[Manic!]

Things are looking up, but if we really want to put pressure on them we should protest in front of Shaw offices.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xmckWVPRaI

[Volvo-brickster]

http://www.torontosun.com/news/canada/2011/02/02/17131626.html

victory of sorts?

[underscore]

^ sounds good to me.

reading the comments, you can tell who's either dumb as a fucking post, or working for one of the providers

[StylinRed]

yea also on news1130

OTTAWA (NEWS1130) - The Canadian government may soon be hitting the Escape Key on the plan to charge people based on their Internet usage.

A government source has confirmed to News1130 if the CRTC doesn't reverse its recent decision, the Prime Minister and the Industry Minister will overturn it.

Last month, the CRTC ruled large internet providers will be able to charge smaller providers on a per-byte basis starting March 1st.

The CRTC chair will appear before an industry committee Thursday.
http://www.news1130.com/news/local/article/178282--exclusive-pm-could-overturn-crtc-s-internet-usage-decision

[TOS'd]

So....how are the ppl that jumped on to the telus bandwagon and signing up for new contracts feeling now?



Another article

The Harper government will overturn the CRTC’s decision that effectively ends “unlimited use” Internet plans if the regulator doesn’t rescind the decision itself.

Industry Minister Tony Clement made the surprise announcement late Wednesday night via his closely followed Twitter account.

He confirmed reports by The Globe and Mail and other media that the Tories were prepared to take this step.

“True. CRTC must go back to drawing board,” he tweeted after being asked if it was true the government would act “if the CRTC does not back down.”

Given this ultimatum from the Tories, the options facing the independent regulator are to reconsider the ruling of its own volition or see the cabinet use its power to reverse it.

Mr. Clement later defended his decision on Twitter, saying: “This is about forcing a single business model on all competitors. I'm for market choice.”

The Harper government has taken a keen interest in the CRTC ruling that’s sparked a massive consumer backlash and caught the attention of all political parties in Ottawa.

Mr. Harper has personally intervened on the file to signal his displeasure this week.

If the Harper government is forced to act, it would mean that independent Internet service providers would not be forced to switch to per-byte billing from “unlimited access” accounts.

It would not prevent the big Internet providers from continuing to use metered billing as they have for years. But the fact that smaller providers could offer unlimited accounts has likely acted as a competitive check on the market and helped keep prices from rising.

Earlier Wednesday night, Mr. Clement turned up the heat on CRTC chair Konrad von Finckenstein on the eve of the regulator’s Commons committee grilling over the decision.

The minister used his Twitter account to broadcast his unease about the ruling, raising the stakes for Mr. von Finckenstein’s appearance Thursday.

The regulatory chief has been called on the carpet before MPs to explain the Canadian Radio-television and Telecommunications Commission ruling.

Mr. Clement, who only this week announced his government is probing whether to overturn the decision, late Wednesday served notice that he will be closely scrutinizing the comments of Mr. von Finckenstein, the very regulator whose decision he’s now second-guessing. The CRTC is independent but cabinet has the power to amend or rescind its rulings.

Using his Twitter instant messaging account – followed by more than 8,300 people, including journalists and many in political circles – Mr. Clement hammered home how skeptical he is of the CRTC decision concerning what Internet providers call “usage-based billing.”

“I’m looking forward to the CRTC chairman’s appearance before the House Industry Committee … to explain his support for the UBB decision,” the Industry Minister said via Twitter.

To drive home his point, Mr. Clement quickly added: “I remain very concerned by the UBB decision of the CRTC and look forward to my review being completed ASAP.”

Mr. Clement is the most avid Twitter user in the federal cabinet, having posted more than 2,500 messages. He’s shown a knack for careful tweeting that avoids missteps. While he discusses music and his personal life, his political-themed messages are normally worded to make a point rather than repeat blandishments.

Mr. Clement and the Harper cabinet have overturned the CRTC before, of course, by striking down the regulator's ruling that Globalive, which now operates Wind Mobile, couldn't launch service in the regulated sector because of foreign financial backing.

A CRTC official said this week the agency has received thousands of complaints about its decision, which allows large Internet providers such as BCE Inc.'s Bell Canada to charge smaller providers who lease space on their networks on a per-byte, or usage, basis.

On Tuesday, Prime Minister Stephen Harper himself took the unusual step of intervening in the controversy, putting more heft behind Mr. Clement's move to review the CRTC ruling – a strong sign of the Conservatives’ displeasure with the regulator’s decision.

It's an unwelcome development for major Internet providers, which have fought for years for the CRTC ruling that effectively ends “unlimited” Internet download plans.

The Conservatives have made it clear they are on the side of consumers and small business in this dispute.

“We want to ensure that the Internet is available for consumers, small businesses, innovators and creators. That is what we are all about,” Mr. Clement told the Commons Wednesday.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/tories-to-overturn-crtc-decision-on-bandwith-billing/article1892522/

[tgill]

Not over by a long shot, this only affects the competition from the smaller ISP's using the big guys networks. Shaw caps are still going from 125gb to 100gb, and on march 1st shaw will still be enforcing their cap with $1+ per gigabyte fees.


From what the Globe reports, major telecom companies (Bell, Shaw, Rogers, Videotron), will still be allowed to impose UBB on their retail customers.

[Carl Johnson]

I will believe it when I see it. So let's not to get carried away. Much of this is just politicians trying to score some political points. But they should know this will be a big issue come election time.

[kyoshiro]

yea shaw is also bumping price by 2 dollars on internet and pushing everyone to digital boxes and also going with UBB.
Im lovin my Telus Optik TV + Optik Turbo. Remote recording PVR ftw as well.

[Soundy]

^Be sure to let us know if you're still loving it after Telus implements overage fees as well... which they WILL do if the regulation stands.

[Ch28]

^Be sure to let us know if you're still loving it after Telus implements overage fees as well... which they WILL do if the regulation stands.

http://images3.makefive.com/images/entertainment/television/best-snl-sketches-ever/debbie-downer-7.jpg

[qwertyuiop]

As others have pointed out, this isn't going to stop UBB but if the small isps are going to be offering unlimited plans then hopefully the big telcos will have to follow in order to stay competitive. That's IF the regulation is rescinded and the CRTC doesn't come up with some revised crafty bullshit. I'm thinking they might just up the wholesale discount and hope that satisfies the small isps.

[kyoshiro]

yep its not gonna stop UBB, even on telus. I can only assume by the time they do charge for overusage, they will also have data packs to compete in the market. Else I will be probably getting Teksavy installed as well so i'll have my bw spread between the 2 in the household.
But yeah I was fed up with Shaw's CS hotlines as well, wait times are way too long sometimes and then you try to call up tech support only to have someone to answer after 2 hours and not even able to do jack. Also them changing their terms and pricing without any notification to me despite having been their customer did the final blow and I switched.

[Manic!]

What we need is some real competition. They should open it up to intentional providers.

We need to still keep the pressure on Shaw even if they change the law back.

[Soundy]

What we need is some real competition. They should open it up to intentional providers.
I wAnder if there are any UNintentional providers out there??

[woob]

I wAnder if there are any UNintentional providers out there??

My neighbour? :troll:



Overturning the recent CRTC decision on UBB is a good thing, but it is just a small step. The CRTC needs a shakeup, since most of their higher-ups are friends/ex-board members of the big telcos. Otherwise, I am sure that they will find some loophole and institute something more subtle in the future, still with the aim of gouging the consumer.

TekSavvy's George Burger shits on a pro-Bell journalist (fuck yeah) - Skip to 5:04
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYizoh_r6D0

[StylinRed]

great interview im a fan of Teksavvy now and its great watching Kevin get smacked down (if u google Burger's name + teksavvy you get pages and pages of results on this very interview lol)

[Ch28]

That Kevin guy is also on Dragon's Den and acts the exact same way.

[Mananetwork]

That Kevin guy is also on Dragon's Den and acts the exact same way.

He's not even human, how can you sleep at night knowing you're riding on pure greed. This man, like many others invest when there's a way for exponential profits, aka screwing consumers. These people take fair price out of the equation and bank that when you're corned, you'll pay.

[tomiesto]

He's not even human, how can you sleep at night knowing you're riding on pure greed. This man, like many others invest when there's a way for exponential profits, aka screwing consumers. These people take fair price out of the equation and bank that when you're corned, you'll pay.

couldn't agree more

[Carl Johnson]

If you listened to Senior VP guy from Bell, he did not actually answer any of the questions, especially when pushed about how they can provide the same services at a much lower price. That Dragon Den's bald fuck reminds me exactly why I don't watch that show.

[unit]

affects maybe 30,000 people?
they forget that familes share internet.
4-6 people in a family sometimes share internet, and so 60gb is really easy to hit if even one or two of them are heavy users.

[qwertyuiop]

Anybody watch "Frankenstein" get grilled on CPAC today? CRTC needs some change!

[woob]

Oh my GOD THIS MAN PISSES ME THE FUCK OFF. He doesn't know two shits about a computer, let alone the internet. Why oh WHY is he the chairman of a regulatory body of the internet?

"IPTV doesn't use the internet." - Konrad von Finckenstein.

Are you serious?????? Internet Protocol Television





...this isn't over, guys and gals.

EDIT: Also, I saw this on reddit today
http://i.imgur.com/cpNjV.png

[qwertyuiop]

Some quotes from "Frankenstein":
http://openmedia.ca/blog/classic-quotes-our-crtc-chair

[underscore]

I hate that bald fuck from the video above. I hope everything he's invested in bombs til he's a fucking hobo. Such a slimy sack of shit...

As for TekSavvy, massive props to them. I had only heard of them a few times before but now I'm gonna look into them, and seriously consider switching if I can.

[qwertyuiop]

Woman gets conned by Shaw CSR into buying an extra data pack before UBB has even started... FUCKING SHAW.

http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r25442404-Shaw-charging-for-data-packs-NOW

[kyoshiro]

shaw president's talk also ridiculous.

[RC0310_EJ]

just got my Telus Optik High Speed Turbo 25Mbps installed today..

http://www.speedtest.net/result/1144852709.png

highest download speed on BT for me was up to 2.8MB/s! Pretty happy so far :)

[cliffhanger33]

was it unlimitedbefore?

[fs604]

was it unlimitedbefore?

No, you got x amount depending on what kind you have. You got so much that you didnt need to worry unless you torrented a bunch of 1080p movies like Avatar.


This is stupid, think about the netflix users. Their bill is going to be so high that they wont be able to use it anymore.
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[J____]

wow, i share my net with my 2 other roomates, maybe download a few torrents every 2 weeks and already at 300gbs per month on extreme (according to shaw's site). wtf is this. Does telus not have limits?

[MrGoodbar]

taking things away but charging the same price?? hmmm where have i heard that one before? SONY?!? COKE???? Frito lays????

Where is my OtherOS support? where is the 9ml per bottle I'm missing that I used to have with my 600ml bottle? why the fuck do those shorty cans cost as much as a regular 355ml can of coke? WHY THE FUCK ARE 300g BAGS OF DORITOS NOW 280g?!?!?!? fuck these companies....

this thread is now about companies that cut back on product and freeze/increase prices.

[Mananetwork]

Where is my OtherOS support? where is the 9ml per bottle I'm missing that I used to have with my 600ml bottle? why the fuck do those shorty cans cost as much as a regular 355ml can of coke? WHY THE FUCK ARE 300g BAGS OF DORITOS NOW 280g?!?!?!? fuck these companies....

this thread is now about companies that cut back on product and freeze/increase prices.

Glad someone else has noticed the same thing

[mrks]

Saw this today and it really puts things into perspective.



http://s3.amazonaws.com/data.tumblr.com/tumblr_lfxzf7G3p91qf0jqco1_1280.png?AWSAccessKeyId =0RYTHV9YYQ4W5Q3HQMG2&Expires=1297216133&Signature=6MsjZHiGVE%2BMy7hGme0OijXvXe8%3D (http://blog.pault.ag/post/3048351262/i-thought-this-was-clever-as-hell-seriously-data)

[!MiKrofT]

lol. That was posted a couple pages back.

[ForbiddenX]

Called shaw earlier because I had to cancel something from my dad's TV package. I then brought up the issue of UBB and how it was affecting me. A big chunk of my bandwidth this month was eaten up because of school. Version control, backups, downloading examples all take a big chunk. Downloading a few 100mb examples and uploading my project every so often all adds up.

He didn't really care so I told him I'd cancel and transfer over to telus. He laughed and said you're kidding yourself if you think telus isn't going to charge. I said I know but they still don't have an implementation to meter their Optik services and he said they eventually will. Just kept saying I'm kidding myself.

He then tells me its necessary that they're doing this to limit people from overusing the internet which is a complete joke. I went on about how it was going to destroy net neutrality in Canada. He just says It's necessary because you pay for what you use. I tell him yea I know but it's not fair to be charging a huge markup for it. Told him the $.02/GB compared to $2/GB they're charging. Decided to give me the electricity example. Threw it back at him and told him they don't charge an extreme amount for going over.

Didn't really offer anything even though my dad's been with them for almost 16 years. I think it was just the CSR though, last time I called they offered me a pretty good deal to stay. This guy sounded a lot like Schwarzenegger lol.

Oh well will try and call again tomorrow.

[Manic!]

They had a rally to stop UBB in Toronto.
http://www.cultureget.com/2011/02/ubb-rally-in-dundas-square-toronto/

[Ch28]

Switched to Telus Optik and downloading consistently around 2600-2800KB/s. It dips down to around 2100KB/s whenever we have a TV on but still much faster compared to Shaw Xtreme.

I'm really happy with the switch so far

[Soundy]

2800 Kbps <3 Mbps...

[Manic!]

Caps are coming and we are all screwed. There is nothing stopping:2finger: it.

[qwertyuiop]

Now is not the time to give up! Join in below:


Shaw puts usage-based billing on hold, take part in customer discussions from Feb. to March here:
http://www.shaw.ca/Internet/New-Data-Usage/


CRTC reveals review process, submit your thoughts/suggestions/criticisms! More info here:
http://forums.redflagdeals.com/how-kill-ubb-good-1002133/

[bigrig]

shaw announces they have suspended any UBB.

http://www.vancouversun.com/Shaw+backs+away+from+usage+based+Internet+billing/4246226/story.html

[Ch28]

Shaw Communications announced today it is suspending its plan to charge customers for going over their Internet usage limits.

And company president Peter Bissonnette suggested one of the options that could be considered in Shaw's newly revised Internet plans, to be released following a two-month public consultation, could be a no-cap, unlimited Internet service.
Good luck with having decent speeds if that's the case. They'll need to upgrade their infrastructure or else it's going to be balls to the walls non-stop downloading for people.

[!MiKrofT]

2800 Kbps <3 Mbps...
He says: 2600-2800KB/s.. KB/s = kilobytes/second.. not Kbps.

[kyoshiro]

KBps = KBytes/s
kbps = kbits/s

so yeah guys remember to capitalize the B if you want bytes and not bits :)
on the other hand, shaws too late, they lost me as a customer and theres no remedy for them being dishonest and doing things without notifying me.

[woob]

shaw announces they have suspended any UBB.

http://www.vancouversun.com/Shaw+backs+away+from+usage+based+Internet+billing/4246226/story.html

So.... it looks like we have 3 months to download whatever we want!

[JesseBlue]

i say...screw shaw ... they are still full of :failed:

[woob]

Yeah I'm not too happy still with this whole situation, and TekSavvy's prices are a LOT cheaper ($20 cheaper for Extreme + double the cap).

[goo3]

at the end of the day.. no competition means we will get screwed in other ways

[Mananetwork]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-Mg6pq33Zc

[Ulic Qel-Droma]

http://i.imgur.com/LJCKv.png
sorry if the image expires. pretty lame though eh?

[goo3]

But if Rogers doesn't rip us off, how else are they gonna buy naming rights to sports stadiums and arenas?

[corollagtSr5]

buddy its shaw, not rogers

[Soundy]

buddy its shaw, not rogers

SS;DP.

[goo3]

buddy its shaw, not rogers

watch the vid above..

and out east, it's rogers doing the same thing.

[qwertyuiop]

Bell's Mirko Bibic and Teksavvy's George Burger go at it again on The Agenda (37:49 minutes but worth the watch):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWn1Gg7NGv8

[Ulic Qel-Droma]

Mirko Bibic is retarded. I can't believe the stuff that's coming out of his mouth.

[q0192837465]

Mirko Bibic is retarded. I can't believe the stuff that's coming out of his mouth.

I dun think he's really retarded. The poor man has to say what the board tell him to say to keep his job. Burger on the other hand can say whatever he wants cuz he IS the board.
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[Gnomes]

If cable company were to charge extra for over use of cap, should they also give price reductions for people who underuse the cap? Too bad it doesnt go both ways.

[woob]

^^ pure UBB works, but again, if it costs $2 per GB then EVERY consumer is getting ripped off.

[Manic!]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0ZGkqQvAVw&feature=topvideos

:lol:lol:lol

[KingDeeCee]

Ok just wondering, is this still going on or is it canceled?

[unit]

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/22/technology/22iht-broadband22.html?_r=2&ref=technology

[imp>dom]

so can anyone confirm if Shaw is charging for overuse?

[kyoshiro]

wont know till a month or 2 later

[imp>dom]

oh why is that? so is it safe to go over for the time being?

[kyoshiro]

its cuz theyre having the "meeting" first and stuff, its safe at the moment, kinda i guess. I already switched over to Telus, hate shaw for doing shit behind my back

[imp>dom]

i hear you. thinking about switching over to teksavvy cable cuz they have the best deal but teksavvy runs on shaw's network so i really dont know

[TOS'd]

I wouldn't change anything until something is actually set in stone.

[WannabeSi]

Ive got extreme and I've never used more then 58G. Maybe I should amp up my usage...lol

[imp>dom]

im gonna download like crazy now

[hotjoint]

Ive got extreme and I've never used more then 58G. Maybe I should amp up my usage...lol

damn you should take advantage. I average about 150 a month. Not as much as some people here :lol

[sulos]

I am with shaw. How do I check my usage?
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[StylinRed]

so is it still clear to download ridiculously ?

[J____]

fuk i dont download ridiculously at all and am using up 330g's a month wtf. mostly video streaming though =(

[Mr.HappySilp]

^^ That will use a lot of bandwidth. Avg 2Hour of HD movie on Netflix is about 4 to 6 GB.

[saiko]

I am with shaw. How do I check my usage?
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head to:

www.secure.shaw.ca, create an account using act#, postal code, phone#.
- Click int, int usage, voila.

[hotjoint]

so is it still clear to download ridiculously ?

yup

[mrks]

Is anybody using Shaw Warp? Wondering if it's worth getting over extreme.

[!MiKrofT]

I don't think anyone's willing to pay $100 a month for internet.

[underscore]

I'm pretty sure that regardless of how this turns out, I will leave Shaw for TekSavvy, based purely on the bullshit Shaw is/may pull, and how honest TekSavvy seems to be.

[!MiKrofT]

Except that Teksavvy also uses Shaw lines. So there will still be downsides if this goes through.

[mrks]

I don't think anyone's willing to pay $100 a month for internet.

I'm actually looking at the Shaw bundles. It's only $20 more for Warp.
HD TV + Extreme =$85
HD TV + Warp =$105

I don't mind paying $20 more if I can get 50Mbps and 3Mbps up.
I'm just wondering if anyone has it to see what their speeds are currently like.


I'm pretty sure that regardless of how this turns out, I will leave Shaw for TekSavvy, based purely on the bullshit Shaw is/may pull, and how honest TekSavvy seems to be.

After seeing this post I'm not that interested in Teksavvy.

http://www.revscene.net/forums/teksavvy-and-monthly-t637494p2.html

[!MiKrofT]

I doubt it'll be much faster for downloads. No matter how fast your connection is you're still dependant on how fast the source is. I think the key point is the additional 75gb of downloading which for $20 is not bad.

[MikeyStyle]

oh why is that? so is it safe to go over for the time being?
so is it still clear to download ridiculously ?
it's your chance to go over without being billed for it

I am with shaw. How do I check my usage?
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myshaw (http://secure.shaw.ca)

it'll look like this

http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/1714/warpg.jpg

Is anybody using Shaw Warp? Wondering if it's worth getting over extreme.
for the past few months, i've been using warp

whenever i load up webpages.. the whole page loads at once

for downloads.. give or take

hd tv shows (around 1 gb) - 5 minutes
music albums (around 700 mb) - 2 minutes
blu-ray movies (around 8 gb) - 30 minutes

for the newer packages, $20 is not bad to upgrade. i'm currently paying $97 for the internet alone on the old package

I doubt it'll be much faster for downloads. No matter how fast your connection is you're still dependant on how fast the source is. I think the key point is the additional 75gb of downloading which for $20 is not bad.
it works great with newsgroups

[JesseBlue]

Except that Teksavvy also uses Shaw lines. So there will still be downsides if this goes through.
teksavvy also has dsl lines through telus

[Peturbo]

so is it still clear to download ridiculously ?

I'm very close to switching over to telus so I'm wondering if shaw started charging yet as of today.
Planning to switch over to telus only when shaw starts charging.
I'm averaging just under 500GB of usage a month.

[skholla]

as per shaw csr's they are currently not doing UBB... now does that mean you can just ignore the bandwidth limit for your internet plan (highspeed/extreme/nitro/warp)???

[way2quik]

It's almost certain shaw will go ahead with per usage billing in late May or June.
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[whitev70r]

Anyone else experience periodic no signals? It's as if there is a rotational blackout. It lasts for about 20-30 seconds.

[willystyle]

Shaw planning to revive metered internet billing: critics

Andrew Weichel, ctvbc.ca

Updated: Sun. Apr. 24 2011 10:17 PM ET
Critics of usage-based Internet billing say Shaw Communications is moving forward with the much-maligned pricing scheme, despite widespread public opposition.
The system, which would see customers pay a flat rate for Internet then surcharges for exceeding their monthly data limit, was proposed by the company early this year. In February, amid a mounting chorus of disapproval, Shaw agreed to stall implementation pending a series of customer consultations.
Now, OpenMedia.ca, a non-profit advocacy group, has released a purported recording of a Shaw executive conference call hosted by CEO Bradley Shaw to discuss findings from the meetings.
In it, Shaw says customers have shown "a recognition that the principle of ‘if you use more, you should pay more' holds true."
Related: Listen to the recording here
He then attests that customers professed little willingness to switch providers if usage-based billing is imposed. "We are of the mind that we still have a tremendous upside in terms of pricing power on our Internet services," he said.
The recording, dated April 13, 2011, outlines a May or June date for clarifying pricing and packaging plans. It is unclear whether those plans are to be made public at that time.
Phone and email requests for comment from Shaw were not returned by Sunday evening.
Steve Anderson of OpenMedia said Canada already has among the highest fees in the world for Internet and phones – and the change, if implemented, would mean even higher costs for heavy web users.
"People could end up paying, you know, double their Internet bill if they watch a lot of videos, for example," he said.
Anderson said a gigabyte of data costs between one and eight cents to deliver, but some companies have proposed charging between two and 10 dollars per gigabyte downloaded above a user's data limit.
Telus spokesman Shawn Hall told CTV News his company will also be implementing usage-based fees later this year for anyone exceeding their monthly cap.
"It's going to be really customer friendly," he said. "You'd be forgiven for the first month you go over. You'd get lots of warning, lots of notice that you were going over with options of moving to other plans."
Telus says most of its customers use an average 15 gigabytes per month. For about $35 per month, they offer 75 gigabytes – suggesting few people would be affected by the change.
"It's only fair that people pay for how much Internet capacity they use," Hall said.
Liberal Leader Michael Ignatieff has spoken out against usage-based billing, while NDP Leader Jack Layton has promised to ban it outright if elected to power.
The prospect of usage-based billing has proven wildly unpopular among the public; an OpenMedia petition against the practice has been signed by more than 484,000 people.
Bell Canada, of which CTV is a subsidiary, also proposed usage-based billing in 2011. Plans were pulled in late March, also in response to public outcry.
With a report from CTV British Columbia's Brent Shearer
No point of jumping to Telus in hopes of unlimited Bandwidth. Teksavvy is the ONLY solution for unlimited internet.

http://www.ctvbc.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20110424/bc_metered_internet_110424/20110424?hub=BritishColumbiaHome

[Peturbo]

^ I'm changing over to telus anyways now since it will save me A LOT of money.
I'm signing up with no term contract so I can change over to something else when ever I want.

[!MiKrofT]

I'm on Extreme 19.95 retention for a year. I'll look at teksaavy after June depending on what the charges from Shaw will be.

[canucks_fan2]

It's been like this in the US for a while, we're lucky in Canada not to have it yet, but you guys should be careful because the bills will actually rack up fast if you're not aware you're over

[J____]

i hate shaw's interface. i can NEVER log in. either gives me "something went wrong" or "your login info is incorrect" when it is.

[Mr.HappySilp]

Time to steal someone wirless network!

[rich80]

A bit off topic but I'm trying to access www.thepiratebay.org and I can't access it......getting a page not found error. I'm wondering if shaw is blocking their site which will really piss me off if thats the case.

Anyone else having problems accessing www.thepiratebay.org and on shaw?

[willystyle]

A bit off topic but I'm trying to access www.thepiratebay.org and I can't access it......getting a page not found error. I'm wondering if shaw is blocking their site which will really piss me off if thats the case.

Anyone else having problems accessing www.thepiratebay.org and on shaw?
Calm down, site might be down.

[rich80]

Calm down, site might be down.

I don't think the site is down because I can access their website from my iphone on rogers.

[willystyle]

I don't think the site is down because I can access their website from my iphone on rogers.
Ok, you may be right. I think Shaw is blocking access to thepiratebay.org, as I successfully got on using a VPN.

[dub.g]

its 8:18, and i cant access piratebay either

im with teksavvy........ piratebay been randomly going down alot this past 3 months

[willystyle]

its 8:18, and i cant access piratebay either

im with teksavvy........ piratebay been randomly going down alot this past 3 months
Teksavvy rents Shaw's line, so I am not surprised that it doesn't work. However, I am on Shaw and was able to access it using a VPN.

So, Shaw is definitely restricting their users access.

Screenshot: http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/8088/thepiratebay.png

[!MiKrofT]

Works fine for me. I'm on Shaw.

[Manic!]

A bit off topic but I'm trying to access www.thepiratebay.org and I can't access it......getting a page not found error. I'm wondering if shaw is blocking their site which will really piss me off if thats the case.

Anyone else having problems accessing www.thepiratebay.org and on shaw?

It's not Shaw works fine for me. The sites been having some problems.

http://torrentfreak.com/comcast-offers-help-to-the-pirate-bay-110512/

[Mr.HappySilp]

When are they going to start this UBB? Coz as soon as they start I am doing to crazy on download first month, then swtich the acct to my mom's name and use that for one month, switch to my sister name, then my name then back to my dad's name.

I won't pay a penny for any over limit SHAW have impose.

[Meowjin]

comcast? te same comcast who merged with NBC universal?

[Ch28]

A bit off topic but I'm trying to access www.thepiratebay.org (http://www.thepiratebay.org) and I can't access it......getting a page not found error. I'm wondering if shaw is blocking their site which will really piss me off if thats the case.

Anyone else having problems accessing www.thepiratebay.org (http://www.thepiratebay.org) and on shaw?

I signed up for Telus Optik Highspeed Turbo and found some sites were being blocked.

I changed my DNS server to Google's DNS server settings and pages would load fine afterwards

[rich80]

Update: So I called shaw tech support last night and told them how I could not access www.thepiratebay.org. She told me they don't block any sites. When I tested it this morning...it was working again. No idea what happened if it was Shaw or the site's problem...but my iphone was acessing it no problem last night. Oh well....all is good now!

[-| TIRAMISU |-]

Questions to anyone who's with Teksavvy now:

1. Were there installation charge for starting the service with Teksavvy? (Besides the $49.99 activation fee)
2. I've been to Teksavvy site and gone through the online submittion forms. I'm questioning about the transferring process from Shaw, were there transferring fee and how long was the process to take effect?
3. I also have noticed that the billing cycle starts on the day you sumitted the forms, is this correct? Or is the billing cycle starts on the first day of activated service? (5~7 buisness days after submittion of the forms)
4. How stable is the connection and did anyone verified the down/upload speed using speedtest or its alike?

Thanks

[JesseBlue]

1) only the activation fee
2) no clue as i was going from tek dsl to cable...better to just call them but usually there is a long waiting time
3) when you submit the form technically but when i asked them they said it was the first day of service...conflicting but meh...i'm saving $12/month doing what i did
4) for 7.5 / 0.5 profile, done a few seconds ago

http://www.speedtest.net/result/1302469134.png

[-| TIRAMISU |-]

1) only the activation fee
2) no clue as i was going from tek dsl to cable...better to just call them but usually there is a long waiting time
3) when you submit the form technically but when i asked them they said it was the first day of service...conflicting but meh...i'm saving $12/month doing what i did
4) for 7.5 / 0.5 profile, done a few seconds ago

http://www.speedtest.net/result/1302469134.png

wow that dl speed of urs looks awsome on a 7.5 line, and thanks for ur reply :)

[JesseBlue]

this is usually the worst case result...there is a teksavvy topic that i created then and it was usually 23+ during non-busy times and 0.49 upload

[Gh0stRider]

http://shaw.ca/newpackages/?WT.mc_id=C995A2047S98

Today we are excited to share our new direction on Internet pricing and packaging with you, our customers. With your help, we’ve created a model that we hope you’ll agree is fair, flexible and offers a variety of options for customers today and into the future.

We’d like to thank the hundreds of customers who took time to come out to the 34 sessions and those who shared their ideas online. Many of those who participated are the technology innovators who told us they wanted an Internet experience that worked not only today, but for the needs of tomorrow. We also heard that our customers wanted transparency, more choice of internet speed and data options, increased flexibility to meet their varied needs, and above all, fairness.

The decisions we have made coming out of those sessions are far reaching. We went into the session thinking it was a discussion about pricing and packaging, and came out with a new vision for the future.

One of the biggest decisions we have made is to undertake a major upgrade of our network by converting our television analog tiers to digital. In making this move we will triple the capacity of our network, freeing up space for more Internet, HD and On Demand programming. This conversion will start in June and will take sixteen months to complete. As a result of this upgrade, it will open up opportunities for Shaw to offer industry leading broadband performance.

[!MiKrofT]

Woot. I just saw this on twitter.

[ForbiddenX]

Woah Shaw actually listened to their customers?

Hopefully I can switch to the Broadband 50 from Extreme keeping the same price plan since they are similar in prices. These packages are actually pretty good.

[Gh0stRider]

but right now, i can't connect to shaw hahah

im using my phone to tether internet...android FTW

[Meowjin]

http://shaw.ca/newpackages/?WT.mc_id=C995A2047S98

wern't they suppose to do that by federal law? lol

their priceplans still suck.

The government needs to starts funding novus to advance to all households in metro vancouver. then we can see real compition.

[Manic!]

So to get faster speeds than 25 Mbps you have to get TV. What type of crap is that!!! and why is Unlimited
100 and Unlimited 250 the same price?

[!MiKrofT]

So to get faster speeds than 25 Mbps you have to get TV. What type of crap is that!!! and why is Unlimited
100 and Unlimited 250 the same price?
Cause unlimited 250 is not available until they do their major upgrades. See the phase 1 and phase 2.

The bundling is pretty common. Telus does the same thing with their Optik service.

[mrks]

That's pretty good. I think I'll be switching to a Broadband 100 package.

[TOS'd]

Too bad they dont list the TV part of the bundles.

Like what is Legacy TV?

I still have the old Cable/HD bundle where as if I upgraded I would be put on the personal plan, and basically have to pay another $50-$60 to get the channels back which I originally had for much less.

[!MiKrofT]

Too bad they dont list the TV part of the bundles.

Like what is Legacy TV?

I still have the old Cable/HD bundle where as if I upgraded I would be put on the personal plan, and basically have to pay another $50-$60 to get the channels back which I originally had for much less.
It's not June 1 yet so I'm guessing we'll have to wait till then before the complete details are out.

[StylinRed]

i imagine legacy tv means current television customers?


why is there a difference between Shaw Extreme and Broadband 50 ?? there must be something different in the user policy or something... else why not just turn Extreme into Broadband 50??


Customers who choose one of the new packages will enter into an automatic upgrade program. Those who go over their data consumption will be placed in the next higher package for the remainder of the month. The following month's data will be reset and customers will return to their original package unless they choose to stay at the higher level.

this made the most sense I dont know how/why they didnt propose that in the first place instead of that milliondollar/gb idea

[JesseBlue]

Is it me or the pricing is still pretty expensive? I pay $34/mnt including taxes with teksavvy and I'm more than happy with the speeds I get... From their pricing I should be paying $49+taxes a month...

[-| TIRAMISU |-]

I hope to see TekSavvy is going to increase their bandwidth cap in reflect to the changes that Shaw has made. :)
450GB Cap, 25Mbps/2.5Mbps and $36.95 Xtreme plan would be the perfect sweet spot for TekSavvy to continue staying ahead of the competition.

[trip]

legacy tv is like classic/basic cable
ch2-28 // 2-58

[JesseBlue]

I hope to see TekSavvy is going to increase their bandwidth cap in reflect to the changes that Shaw has made. :)
450GB Cap, 25Mbps/2.5Mbps and $36.95 Xtreme plan would be the perfect sweet spot for TekSavvy to continue staying ahead of the competition.
what are you talking about? they had 300gb or unlimited...shaw just annouced the cap limits only a few days ago...

looks like shaw was behind the game all along...

who knows..they might just say unlimited for everything...

[Manic!]

So Shaw increased there caps. So what happens now if someone goes over there caps. before they did nothing but now what?

[clowe]

So...if I'm on extreme, my cap is increased to 250gb now? That's a pretty big increase for 100gb

[TOS'd]

So Shaw increased there caps. So what happens now if someone goes over there caps. before they did nothing but now what?
Bumped up to higher plan for the remaining period.

[Manic!]

Bumped up to higher plan for the remaining period.

But the biggest I can get is Shaw extreme with a 250GB cap because I don't use them for TV. One month I'm going to have go over 250GB to see what happens.

[!MiKrofT]

The automatic bumps are only for the new plans. The original plans according to that post say it'll fall under their standard acceptable use policy.

[Great68]

I'm going to be pretty unhappy if/when they get rid of analog service, because I use a TV tuner with Win7 Media Centre on one of my PC's as a 2nd TV/PVR unit in my house.

I'd be so happy if Shaw could offer an add-in card that lets me use the Media Center interface.

[willystyle]

Just upgraded to Broadband 50 with the new WiFi modem, has anyone reached 50Mbps?

http://www.speedtest.net/result/1336308467.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

[ime2006]

With my Usage, Whats ganna happen to my shaw ?? anyone knows ?

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y275/coolalalalala/shaw.jpg

[!MiKrofT]

Just upgraded to Broadband 50 with the new WiFi modem, has anyone reached 50Mbps?

http://www.speedtest.net/result/1336308467.png (http://www.speedtest.net)
I get 22mbps on extreme which is 25mbps. Did you reboot your modem afterwards?

http://www.speedtest.net/result/1336353979.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

[Mr.HappySilp]

Upgrade to the Boardband 50 and here is the speed test
http://www.speedtest.net/result/1336382617.png
I am still using the old modem.

[TOS'd]

That is a lot of porn.With my Usage, Whats ganna happen to my shaw ?? anyone knows ?

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y275/coolalalalala/shaw.jpg

[willystyle]

I get 22mbps on extreme which is 25mbps. Did you reboot your modem afterwards?

http://www.speedtest.net/result/1336353979.png (http://www.speedtest.net)
Yup, been cycling like mad.

Upgrade to the Boardband 50 and here is the speed test
http://www.speedtest.net/result/1336382617.png
I am still using the old modem.
If you're on Broadband 50 and you're using the old Motorola then you're getting ripped cause it can only supply up to 25Mbps, you need the new WiFi modem from Shaw which is a SMC Networks modem.

[StylinRed]

Just upgraded to Broadband 50 with the new WiFi modem, has anyone reached 50Mbps?

http://www.speedtest.net/result/1336308467.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

this is what im @ with extreme
http://www.speedtest.net/result/1336491111.png (http://www.speedtest.net)
(almost never up in the 20s guess nobody is home tonight in the area :alone:)

[terkan]

so broadband 50 bundled with tv is 84.90
and shaw extreme bundled with tv is also 84.90

one of them i get 50mb down 3mb up along with 400gb limit while the other is 25mb down 2.5mb up with only 250gb limit.. so why don't they just switch everyone over to the broadband 50 if they have TV bundled already?? am i misreading something?

[terkan]

Yup, been cycling like mad.


If you're on Broadband 50 and you're using the old Motorola then you're getting ripped cause it can only supply up to 25Mbps, you need the new WiFi modem from Shaw which is a SMC Networks modem.

or just go get the docsis3 modems.. the SMC wifi modem are a pos.. they are so cheaply made half the time they don't even work

[StylinRed]

if you're on the old tv plans ur actually paying about $10 less a month

but if you're on SPP then yeah ppl should just migrate up



as for the Bump Up Program (getting bumped up to the next tier package) on shaws website it says it wont take effect until February 2012 and you get a 1month grace if you go over

[willystyle]

or just go get the docsis3 modems.. the SMC wifi modem are a pos.. they are so cheaply made half the time they don't even work
What other docsis 3.0 modem can I choose? I hate the SMC networks modem.

[StylinRed]

a motorola one? but looks like they cost much more

cisco wireless residential gateway modems? (not under Linksys)

[mrks]

What other docsis 3.0 modem can I choose? I hate the SMC networks modem.

They gave me a Motorola SB6120. It's rock solid, never had to reset the thing since I had it for the past few months.
No wifi, but that's what I asked for.

I've always had around 45 down and about 2.8 up with Warp. Just switched over to Broadband 50 yesterday and still have the same speeds.

http://www.speedtest.net/result/1336976917.png

[willystyle]

They gave me a Motorola SB6120. It's rock solid, never had to reset the thing since I had it for the past few months.
No wifi, but that's what I asked for.

I've always had around 45 down and about 2.8 up with Warp. Just switched over to Broadband 50 yesterday and still have the same speeds.

http://www.speedtest.net/result/1336976917.png
Yeah I missed my old Motorola, it was solid like rock, think they would swap the current modem with me?

I am not hitting ANYWHERE close to those speeds. I am gonna give them a call now.

[SaviorSelf_666]

Got the Broadband 100 today, with the SMC modem/router (which I hate already).

http://www.speedtest.net/result/1337182043.png

I upgraded from Extreme, didn't cost me a penny more (friends are good)

[willystyle]

Got the Broadband 100 today, with the SMC modem/router (which I hate already).

http://www.speedtest.net/result/1337182043.png

I upgraded from Extreme, didn't cost me a penny more (friends are good)
How did u get Broadband 100 for the same price?

[TOS'd]

Got the Broadband 100 today, with the SMC modem/router (which I hate already).

http://www.speedtest.net/result/1337182043.png

I upgraded from Extreme, didn't cost me a penny more (friends are good)

dat speed :fullofwin:

[SaviorSelf_666]

A friend of mine put some discount on my acct. Broadband 100 was supposed to be around $10 more but she put a discount on it.

I'm trying to find a way to disable the SMC router/modem's router function. I know the Rogers customers have figured out a way.

[willystyle]

dat speed :fullofwin:
Im jealous. I called Shaw and they told me that there was nothing they could do about my shitty speed as my signal is strong, but to send a tech in, hopefully that will fix the problem.

[terkan]

looks like they are force feeding the cheap smc down ppl's throat regardless of if u want wireless or not... i bitched and complained and they keep saying they stopped giving out the sb6120 -.- that aside.. if i go over the 400gb limit on the broadband 50 i get bump up to broadband 100 lol does that also change the speed? XD

[willystyle]

looks like they are force feeding the cheap smc down ppl's throat regardless of if u want wireless or not... i bitched and complained and they keep saying they stopped giving out the sb6120 -.- that aside.. if i go over the 400gb limit on the broadband 50 i get bump up to broadband 100 lol does that also change the speed? XD
What? They discontinued it?

Yeah, your speed and cap will be bumped up if you go over, so will the price. lol

[trip]

just an FYI if you go over and get bumped to the next cap

you pay the flat fee of the next tier and it is not pro-rated

[StylinRed]

on shaws website they say they wont start bumping people up when you go over ur Cap until Feb 2012

[!MiKrofT]

For me I only subscribe to extreme internet. So 84.90 is a lot than my current $20

[striderblade]

yeah im using just extreme here as well. Is the boardband 50 faster? And how much is it after the 3 months periods?

[Oleophobic]

wow I wish i had some friends of friends who are connected working at shaw

on a serious note though, too bad the increase in speed isn't too noticeable if you're streaming youtube or other sites since you are limited by the speed on their end.

youkv and tudou still slow as fuck

[StylinRed]

wow I wish i had some friends of friends who are connected working at shaw


we've got some RS members who work @ shaw

RS Discount? :D

[JayEch]

Yes parent deciding whether to go with shaw or telus. They are leaning towards telus but i want shaw. So hope some of my RS buddies could gimme an edge.

btw we are currently with shaw for the last few years (5+ i dunt remember exactly)

[willystyle]

youkv and tudou still slow as fuck
The servers are in China, what do you expect?

[Oleophobic]

I'm perfectly aware of that.

[!MiKrofT]

For myself I've nothing but good experiences with Shaw under their Extreme package. Downtime negligible. Maybe in total an hour or 2 over 5 years? Customer service has always been a good experience for me.

[skholla]

Yes parent deciding whether to go with shaw or telus. They are leaning towards telus but i want shaw. So hope some of my RS buddies could gimme an edge.

btw we are currently with shaw for the last few years (5+ i dunt remember exactly)

i would go the telus route because of the contract. i enjoy my freedom with shaw and the ability to ditch them if they piss me off and dont make things right.

the only way i would go with telus is on a 1 year deal with free pvr rental and a good bundle deal.

[JayEch]

i would go the telus route because of the contract. i enjoy my freedom with shaw and the ability to ditch them if they piss me off and dont make things right.

the only way i would go with telus is on a 1 year deal with free pvr rental and a good bundle deal.

You make it sound like telus isnt a good choice and you would only choose them under certain circumstances lol

[skholla]

Oopps I meant "I would not go the telus route"....

I believe that their HD picture quality is inferior to shaws, also signing a 3 year agreement for basic/essential services is ridiculous.

I would only consider telus when the HD PQ improves and a great deal pops up on month to month or on a 1 year agreement.... That way if they pissed me off half way through I wouldn't mind paying them off or touching it out for 6 months. I can't say the same about a 36 month agreement..
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[JayEch]

yeah thats what i was thinking as well. contracts are lame

[terkan]

yeah im using just extreme here as well. Is the boardband 50 faster? And how much is it after the 3 months periods?

broadband 50 is 50mbps down 3mbps up with 400gb limit compared to extreme at 25mbps down and i think 3mbps up still. stand alone price is $74.90 but if you bundle it with regular tv and or phone it's +$59. or if you bundle it with the shaw personal planner thing for TV it's flat rate $84.90 i switched my normal tv package to the SPP i think i pay about 5bux more than before with internet and stuff but my limit is now 400gb with 50mbps i watch everything on internet anyways

[strykn]

just got broadband 50, they said they didnt have any motorola modems got the smc one...

http://www.speedtest.net/result/1360604664.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

[Oleophobic]

yeah they are short on the motorola modems
I think when I went to switch up my modem they only had 3 left.
That SMC one sucks ass IME, weak signal and keeps disconnecting. Tenants started complaining about not being able to connect. After switching to the motorola one and using my existing Router instead of the SMC router/modem everything is back to the way it was signal-wise.

I believe Shaw is gonna get a newer modem (not sure if it's Motorola or something else) this summer so you should be able to switch your modem then.

[strykn]

cool, can anyone help me with uploading in utorrent, port is opened and am always only uploading at like 0.5 kbps :S

[ime2006]

cool, can anyone help me with uploading in utorrent, port is opened and am always only uploading at like 0.5 kbps :S

if u wanna seed for torrents. You should just rent seedbox.

A month, u can upload somewhere around 1~2TB

[fs604]

cool, can anyone help me with uploading in utorrent, port is opened and am always only uploading at like 0.5 kbps :S

Did you change your upload settings? I'm not sure how to make it go back to normal but you can google it easily.

[Culverin]

yeah they are short on the motorola modems
I think when I went to switch up my modem they only had 3 left.
That SMC one sucks ass IME, weak signal and keeps disconnecting. Tenants started complaining about not being able to connect. After switching to the motorola one and using my existing Router instead of the SMC router/modem everything is back to the way it was signal-wise.

I believe Shaw is gonna get a newer modem (not sure if it's Motorola or something else) this summer so you should be able to switch your modem then.


When my tech came (2 weeks ago), he said the SMC one was the newest one that just got released, and that I got lucky because I got the first of the new batch.
Was he lying?

This is the one I got.
http://www.thewebtechreviews.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/smcd3gn_cable_modem.jpg

Model # SMCD3GN

[StylinRed]

anyone got any speed tests using the Wifi? im debating on getting broadband50 but im on wifi most of the time

am i going to need one of those new 450mbps wifi routers to get use out of the broadband50 speeds?


can i just buy my own docsis 3.0 modem instead?

[mauricetan]

just got broadband 50, they said they didnt have any motorola modems got the smc one...

http://www.speedtest.net/result/1360604664.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

thats a pretty nice results! Wish telus would increase the speeds for optik high speed turbo to 50mbps from 25mbps... Also, the optik turbo has a data cap of 500gig which is way bigger than the broadband 50 of shaw ...Hopefully when telus has the 50mbps package they would have 1tb or unlimited bandwidth per month...

[willystyle]

anyone got any speed tests using the Wifi? im debating on getting broadband50 but im on wifi most of the time

am i going to need one of those new 450mbps wifi routers to get use out of the broadband50 speeds?


can i just buy my own docsis 3.0 modem instead?
The WiFi modem (SMCD3GN) for the Broadband 50 package is not 450mbps, and yes you will need a new modem.

If you want to buy your own DOCSIS 3.0 modem, call them and make sure it's compatible with their network. The only other DOCSIS 3.0 modem that I know that work with Shaw is the Motorola 6120. Unfortunately, they don't give these out to customers anymore cause they are MUCH better than the SMC Network SMCD3GN shitboxes.

SURFboard SB6120 - Cable Modem - Overview - Motorola Mobility, Inc. USA (http://www.motorola.com/Consumers/US-EN/Consumer-Product-and-Services/Cable-Modems-and-Gateways/SURFboard-Cable-Modem-SB6120-US-EN)

When my tech came (2 weeks ago), he said the SMC one was the newest one that just got released, and that I got lucky because I got the first of the new batch.
Was he lying?

This is the one I got.
http://www.thewebtechreviews.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/smcd3gn_cable_modem.jpg

Model # SMCD3GN
I overheard the other day, which was about 2 weeks ago from a service rep at Shaw Tower and the installation guy, that all of the WiFi modems for the Broadband 50 package were out (SMCD3GN), so I suspect that you are lucky if you managed to get a hold of one.

[willystyle]

http://www.speedtest.net/result/1371066399.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

[Ulic Qel-Droma]

I'm probably gonna shell out money for the 250 unlimited package when it comes out. Mmmmmmmm unlimited internets at sexy speeds.
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[Oleophobic]

When my tech came (2 weeks ago), he said the SMC one was the newest one that just got released, and that I got lucky because I got the first of the new batch.
Was he lying?


No idea. When I exchanged my SMC for a Motorola since I wanted to use my existing router, the guy told me they will be getting a new modem in the summer. Of course that rep could just be saying that and he may not know the exact details.

[willystyle]

No idea. When I exchanged my SMC for a Motorola since I wanted to use my existing router, the guy told me they will be getting a new modem in the summer. Of course that rep could just be saying that and he may not know the exact details.
I asked a installation tech about the Motorola, they said they've stopped installing them.

[Oleophobic]

The motorola I got is an old modem and I guess they don't have any left.

When I first called in about switching the SMC they mentioned they are getting some new modem (don't think they mentioned the brand) in the summer and that I could wait for that or I could try to exchange my SMC with their older motorola modems at the Shaw office.

When I got to the Shaw building in downtown the guy just told me he'll try to find the motorola and that they should have some left. Turns out they do have a few and I got one.

The SMC may not be all bad. It's just IME the signal was kind of weak in my house compared to my existing router and I get disconnected every so often. That plus tenants complaining meant I had to do something.

[willystyle]

The SMC Networks configuration settings are horrible, it lacks many features, and there are some settings that I cannot change cause it's locked down by Shaw.

[strykn]

I still can't upload on Utorrent :okay:

[terkan]

lol the smc router is a pos... the wired works fine but the wireless don't work right

[terkan]

The motorola I got is an old modem and I guess they don't have any left.

When I first called in about switching the SMC they mentioned they are getting some new modem (don't think they mentioned the brand) in the summer and that I could wait for that or I could try to exchange my SMC with their older motorola modems at the Shaw office.

When I got to the Shaw building in downtown the guy just told me he'll try to find the motorola and that they should have some left. Turns out they do have a few and I got one.

The SMC may not be all bad. It's just IME the signal was kind of weak in my house compared to my existing router and I get disconnected every so often. That plus tenants complaining meant I had to do something.

the losers told me they don't give out the motorola even though i went up to the downtown office and talked to them on the phone.. i damn know they do i used to work there.. wtf.. they fuked up my entire network at home with their gay ass wifi gateway

[willystyle]

What would be a good DD-WRT N-router to pair with the SMC modem?

My WRT54GL cannot handle the 50Mbps throughput. :(

[StylinRed]

I'd guess one of the new dual-band ones

like the Cisco/Linksys E4200
Cisco ships dual-band 450Mbps router | Crave - CNET (http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-20028850-1.html)

$160 at bestbuy or it was



and yeah i was planning on ordering a Motorola 6120 from Amazon or something its $82 though + shipp :/

[willystyle]

I'd guess one of the new dual-band ones

like the Cisco/Linksys E4200
Cisco ships dual-band 450Mbps router | Crave - CNET (http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-20028850-1.html)

$160 at bestbuy or it was



and yeah i was planning on ordering a Motorola 6120 from Amazon or something its $82 though + shipp :/
I can't seem to find this locally. I am currently running a G-wireless bridge, so I need something that would work with my existing routers too.

[turbomelon]

What would be a good DD-WRT N-router to pair with the SMC modem?

My WRT54GL cannot handle the 50Mbps throughput. :(

I recently got 100mbps and torrent/newsgroup and game at the same time. Obviously my WRT54GL couldnt handle it.. nor could this asus POS i bought, so I built a new router using my old computer parts, core 2 duo, 4 gigs of ddr3 40gig ssd 2 network adapters and the PfSense software. I havent bothered with the more advanced features, but now my internet is stable, and so far no downtime at all, was surprisingly easy to setup.

http://speedtest.net/result/1372032128.png

[MikeyStyle]

motorola is no longer producing the sb6120 (http://www.motorola.com/Consumers/CA-EN/Consumer-Products-and-Services/Cable-Modems-and-Gateways/SURFboard-Cable-Modem-SB6120-CA-EN) modem. that's why everyone who's signing up for the newer packages are receiving the smc modems instead

there are rumours that a new modem will be replacing the motorola one.. but there's no eta on when that'll be available

there's no current option to purchase the sb6120 elsewhere and to add it onto your account. if you were lucky enough to obtain the modem, don't return/swap it as you will most likely never get it back

[willystyle]

I recently got 100mbps and torrent/newsgroup and game at the same time. Obviously my WRT54GL couldnt handle it.. nor could this asus POS i bought, so I built a new router using my old computer parts, core 2 duo, 4 gigs of ddr3 40gig ssd 2 network adapters and the PfSense software. I havent bothered with the more advanced features, but now my internet is stable, and so far no downtime at all, was surprisingly easy to setup.

http://speedtest.net/result/1372032128.png
Yeah I considered building my own router too, but thought it would be too much of a hassle. How "surprisingly easy" was it?

I have several devices that need WiFi, how would a setup like that work?

Do I must have 2 network adapters?

Is it compatible with an existing wireless bridge?

[StylinRed]

I can't seem to find this locally. I am currently running a G-wireless bridge, so I need something that would work with my existing routers too.
futureshop/bestbuy Linksys Max Performance Wireless N Dual Band Router (E4200-CA) : Wireless N Routers - Best Buy Canada (http://www.bestbuy.ca/en-CA/product/linksys-linksys-max-performance-wireless-n-dual-band-router-e4200-ca-e4200-ca/10169183.aspx?path=c5365820a7deac6c26a1996ee093205 6en02)
Not on sale anymore though so its pricey... not sure about compatibility with your needs :/

so I built a new router using my old computer parts
http://speedtest.net/result/1372032128.png

holy shit you built ur own router :crazy2: that just seems insane to me :P
im gonna have to look @ some tutorials maybe it'd be worth trying that instead with some old parts; got any suggestions?

motorola is no longer producing the sb6120 (http://www.motorola.com/Consumers/CA-EN/Consumer-Products-and-Services/Cable-Modems-and-Gateways/SURFboard-Cable-Modem-SB6120-CA-EN) modem. that's why everyone who's signing up for the newer packages are receiving the smc modems instead


you can buy em from the states, new, but places like Amazon wont ship it to Canada

[willystyle]

futureshop/bestbuy Linksys Max Performance Wireless N Dual Band Router (E4200-CA) : Wireless N Routers - Best Buy Canada (http://www.bestbuy.ca/en-CA/product/linksys-linksys-max-performance-wireless-n-dual-band-router-e4200-ca-e4200-ca/10169183.aspx?path=c5365820a7deac6c26a1996ee093205 6en02)
Not on sale anymore though so its pricey... not sure about compatibility with your needs :/



holy shit you built ur own router :crazy2: that just seems insane to me :P
im gonna have to look @ some tutorials maybe it'd be worth trying that instead with some old parts; got any suggestions?



you can buy em from the states, new, but places like Amazon wont ship it to Canada
I am very iffy about the CA version of the E4200, not sure if it can run with DD-WRT and I don't want to spend $200 on a router.

Might go with the "build my own router" method instead, just need to find space to put/hide the damn tower.

[turbomelon]

yeah its actually not as involved as you'd think. What I did was :

used a cheap small atx case I had lying around,
get a cheap gigabyte motherboard that supports ddr3 and core2duo
popped in my old e6600 core2duo processor
hooked up the power supply ( i used a spare corsair 750w which is overkill)
installed 4 gigs of ddr3 ram
used an old ssd 40gig so the system would load up fast in case it has to restart.
popped in two intel network adapter cards


Note that this created a beast of a router, I use probably 4% of the available memory at max load and 0% processor haha... Oh and to keep temps under control i just installed 2 fans at low speed and a passive heat sink.

Pretty much build a small cheap computer with no graphics card, or sound card
then hook up an external sata CD drive, burn the pfsense image boot off the cd drive, it'll walk you thru the steps, just hook up your WAN and LAN network cables hit the corresponding button. It'll auto configure.. then it'll do some other stuff install to your harddrive just customize.. then hit enter for everything.. it'll do the configuration stuff again
then it should be up and running
from there
you can just hook a computer up to it and login to your new beast router which should have a web interface similar to the consumer grade stuff and configure it like you would a normal router.

Willystyle, I used 2 network adapters one for LAN one for WAN, but those were Intel ones, maybe theres something else out there I dunno haha.. as for being compatible with a wireless bridge at my place I have another wireless router and this router is just a simple wired one, but I'm sure it should support a wireless bridge. I only did a really quick setup so didn't get much into the more complex things.

[skholla]

Build an Untangle box and then reconfigure your existing wireless router to act as a wireless access point and wired network switch.

Multi-functional Firewall Software - Open Source Content Filter & Spam Filter | Untangle.com (http://www.untangle.com/)
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[mauricetan]

I recently got 100mbps and torrent/newsgroup and game at the same time. Obviously my WRT54GL couldnt handle it.. nor could this asus POS i bought, so I built a new router using my old computer parts, core 2 duo, 4 gigs of ddr3 40gig ssd 2 network adapters and the PfSense software. I havent bothered with the more advanced features, but now my internet is stable, and so far no downtime at all, was surprisingly easy to setup.

http://speedtest.net/result/1372032128.png

OMG! thats super fast! how much are you paying for everything? im assuming you also have shaw tv and phone bundled with your internet...

[turbomelon]

Right now I'm paying about $109 a month, which isn't that cheap as I don't have any connections, but I opted out of shaw phone and got the plan personalizer basic + sports1. So I have a bunch of sports channels in HD and the SD channels under 30, Food Network, HGTV and History, in both SD and HD ( I forgot the channel numbers for the HD equivalents of CBS, CNN etc. ).

I was paying $113 a month before as I had 160 ish channels with shaw extreme, but I don't watch much tv these days and if I really want to catch a show I could just download it.

I recall the 100 mbps 500gig limit is about $69 a month. But the limits don't really matter right now as they're not going to be implementing their quasi-UBB plan until Feb next year.

[mauricetan]

Right now I'm paying about $109 a month, which isn't that cheap as I don't have any connections, but I opted out of shaw phone and got the plan personalizer basic + sports1. So I have a bunch of sports channels in HD and the SD channels under 30, Food Network, HGTV and History, in both SD and HD ( I forgot the channel numbers for the HD equivalents of CBS, CNN etc. ).

I was paying $113 a month before as I had 160 ish channels with shaw extreme, but I don't watch much tv these days and if I really want to catch a show I could just download it.

I recall the 100 mbps 500gig limit is about $69 a month. But the limits don't really matter right now as they're not going to be implementing their quasi-UBB plan until Feb next year.

Thats a pretty good price.. im paying like a little bit more for my optik tv + optik highspeed turbo + home phone.. the optik tv right now is still on promotion so we have 9 theme packs included.. but once the promotion is done i might just go back to the basic one so its cheaper too and HOPEFULLY... telus would have 50 and 100mbps plans for optik tv internet and i hope they would have unlmited bandwidth included soon.. i was surprise to see shaw step up pretty fast... when optik tv was introduced.. their extreme was only at 15mbps.. then they made it to 25mbps to be at par with the highspeed turbo of optik and now they offer 50 and 100mbps...pretty good strategy! Im really hoping that telus would do the same and make it also a little more affordable.. internet should be cheaper!

[willystyle]

If you guys really want to cut down on cost of your monthly cable bill, why not switch your phone line to VOIP?

It's saving me $30 per month without Shaw. You get a free phone line and a number. I paid $75.. $50 for configuration file for my ATA, and $25 to transfer my existing number, my line is free for life.

Check it out.

Free Phone Line - Phone Service (http://www.freephoneline.ca)

/SPAM

turbomelon, your build is waaay too much of an overkill just for a basic home router. I was thinking of using a really old 1.6GHz CPU for it. lol

[turbomelon]

yeah haha its definately overkill, but I had all the parts just laying around from my old computer, so just needed to pop it into a smaller case and make use of it. Hopefully it'll last for a long long time.

Since I got about 4 high powered rigs concurrently downloading/gaming brothers haha I wanted to make sure that my in house equipment wouldn't be a limiting factor :p.

[!MiKrofT]

yeah its actually not as involved as you'd think. What I did was :

used a cheap small atx case I had lying around,
get a cheap gigabyte motherboard that supports ddr3 and core2duo
popped in my old e6600 core2duo processor
hooked up the power supply ( i used a spare corsair 750w which is overkill)
installed 4 gigs of ddr3 ram
used an old ssd 40gig so the system would load up fast in case it has to restart.
popped in two intel network adapter cards


Note that this created a beast of a router, I use probably 4% of the available memory at max load and 0% processor haha... Oh and to keep temps under control i just installed 2 fans at low speed and a passive heat sink.

Pretty much build a small cheap computer with no graphics card, or sound card
then hook up an external sata CD drive, burn the pfsense image boot off the cd drive, it'll walk you thru the steps, just hook up your WAN and LAN network cables hit the corresponding button. It'll auto configure.. then it'll do some other stuff install to your harddrive just customize.. then hit enter for everything.. it'll do the configuration stuff again
then it should be up and running
from there
you can just hook a computer up to it and login to your new beast router which should have a web interface similar to the consumer grade stuff and configure it like you would a normal router.

Willystyle, I used 2 network adapters one for LAN one for WAN, but those were Intel ones, maybe theres something else out there I dunno haha.. as for being compatible with a wireless bridge at my place I have another wireless router and this router is just a simple wired one, but I'm sure it should support a wireless bridge. I only did a really quick setup so didn't get much into the more complex things.
pfsense is too complicated/confusing for the average user. I've been having good results deploying Endian Community Firewall.

[willystyle]

Has anyone used SmoothWall? Been hearing great things about it.

[MikeyStyle]

you can buy em from the states, new, but places like Amazon wont ship it to Canada
the only problem with buying from a non-authorized shaw retail location is that they won't add the modem to your account

the equipment must be in shaw's inventory list or you won't be able to use it

i was surprise to see shaw step up pretty fast... when optik tv was introduced.. their extreme was only at 15mbps.. then they made it to 25mbps to be at par with the highspeed turbo of optik and now they offer 50 and 100mbps...pretty good strategy! Im really hoping that telus would do the same and make it also a little more affordable.. internet should be cheaper!
shaw's already planning to go up to 250 Mbps download and 15 Mbps upload in the near future

[mauricetan]

If you guys really want to cut down on cost of your monthly cable bill, why not switch your phone line to VOIP?

It's saving me $30 per month without Shaw. You get a free phone line and a number. I paid $75.. $50 for configuration file for my ATA, and $25 to transfer my existing number, my line is free for life.

Check it out.

Free Phone Line - Phone Service (http://www.freephoneline.ca)

/SPAM

turbomelon, your build is waaay too much of an overkill just for a basic home router. I was thinking of using a really old 1.6GHz CPU for it. lol

Thanks for the info! Hows the service? so you only paid $75 in total and its already freephone for life? So the phone has to be connected to the router since its a voip?

the only problem with buying from a non-authorized shaw retail location is that they won't add the modem to your account

the equipment must be in shaw's inventory list or you won't be able to use it


shaw's already planning to go up to 250 Mbps download and 15 Mbps upload in the near future

Ya.. i saw the phase II for shaw and offering it up to 250mbps!

so basically turbomelon will be getting 250mbps when phase II gets completed since the 100mbps will become 250mbps on phase II? Is that right?

Telus should step up with their optik tv internet too! Hopefully they do it asap! i want a minimum of 50mbps download and 10-15mbps upload and unlimited bandwidth.. :) i wonder if vdsl2 can handle those kinds of speeds...

[willystyle]

Thanks for the info! Hows the service? so you only paid $75 in total and its already freephone for life? So the phone has to be connected to the router since its a voip?
Service has been great. I pay a one-time fee of $50 to purchase their configuration file for your ATA, and another $25 to transfer your phone number from your existing telephone provider, and I purchased an ATA (Linksys PAP2T-NA.. from NCIX.. cost was $50).. Total cost was about $125 to switch my services. A one-time fee, and I don't have to worry about paying phone bill again. It's unlimited Canada calling by the way.

Basically, your cordless/corded phone is connected to a ATA adapter (with 2 lines, if you purchase the PAP2T-NA), and the ATA is connected to your router. Change a few settings in your ATA adapter and your router (QOS). Voila, it's up.

In my opinion, it's much better than traditional landline, cause you can track everything online (call logs, voicemail messages, call forwarding, etc). It comes with free call display too.

Ya.. i saw the phase II for shaw and offering it up to 250mbps!

so basically turbomelon will be getting 250mbps when phase II gets completed since the 100mbps will become 250mbps on phase II? Is that right?

Telus should step up with their optik tv internet too! Hopefully they do it asap! i want a minimum of 50mbps download and 10-15mbps upload and unlimited bandwidth.. :) i wonder if vdsl2 can handle those kinds of speeds...

Yeah the 100mbps will automatically be switched to 250mbps down in Phase II. In my opinion, Telus doesn't have the infrastructure in place to achieve the internet speed that Shaw can provide to their customers. Not anytime soon.

Here's why, the technology that Telus uses for their Optik TV is shit. Most of the bandwidth is consolidated for IPTV. They can barely squeeze enough bandwidth for their television users, so it's not much left for their internet users.

Take a look at the HD channels on Telus's Optik TV, it's worse of that of Shaw's HD cause they need to compress their data so much to provide their television service; therefore, the picture and sound quality suffers tremendously. They barely have enough bandwidth to sufficiently provide "HD" content to their televison base customers. Forget internet users.

[JesseBlue]

I just use our cell phone with unlimited incoming and talkatone for outgoing when connected to a wifi...total cost $25/ mnth

[striderblade]

Hmm if you get bumped up to phase II do you still pay the same price now? Or More after you get bumped up?

[striderblade]

BTW anyone else shaw is slow as shit right now or is it just me? Rupert 22 to 29th ave area.

[EmOne]

BTW anyone else shaw is slow as shit right now or is it just me? Rupert 22 to 29th ave area.

my internet went down at 1am last night and was down for the whole night.
My speed has been slow as shit today. I cant even watch youtube videos. WTF

http://www.speedtest.net/result/1374769115.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

[!MiKrofT]

Has anyone used SmoothWall? Been hearing great things about it.
I don't recommend. I had stability issues with it on a 40 device network I setup. As well you have to download a lot of third party plugins to do the things you want. Give endian a try. Its much more refined and based off the same sources. Untangled is decent but requires a decent amount of resources to run well.

[striderblade]

my internet went down at 1am last night and was down for the whole night.
My speed has been slow as shit today. I cant even watch youtube videos. WTF

http://www.speedtest.net/result/1374769115.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

Dude same shit happened to me last night too. I'm getting pretty much the same speed as you when i ran a speedtest. Rebooted the modem couple of times and still the same shit. Maybe i should call in and start bitching.

[EmOne]

Dude same shit happened to me last night too. I'm getting pretty much the same speed as you when i ran a speedtest. Rebooted the modem couple of times and still the same shit. Maybe i should call in and start bitching.

Im near knight and kingsway.
If my speed doesn't return to normal tomorrow I am going to call in and raise hell. Im sick and tired of shaws bullshit.
My friend has telus optic for $15 a month and never has any issues.
I am paying $40

[EmOne]

Even when it is working it fluctuates A LOT. In the evenings I am lucky if I can top 400kb/s download

[ime2006]

Absolutely LOVING ITTTTTTTTTTTT

http://www.speedtest.net/result/1375849595.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

[striderblade]

arg is fucking slowing down again. I'm on Extreme and is fucking Extremely slow.

http://www.speedtest.net/result/1375873927.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

[LsquareD]

BTW anyone else shaw is slow as shit right now or is it just me? Rupert 22 to 29th ave area.

Yeah its been slow as shit past 2-3 days. Sometimes my internet doesn't even work. It's pretty slow right now. Fucking lame!

Glad I'm not the only one though :okay:

[lilaznviper]

^same internet is so shitty
speedtest 50kb/s down and 300kb/s up average

[ime2006]

^same internet is so shitty
speedtest 50kb/s down and 300kb/s up average

dont know wut plan they are on ???

[fsy82]

http://www.speedtest.net/result/1375944757.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

[EmOne]

Absolutely LOVING ITTTTTTTTTTTT

http://www.speedtest.net/result/1375849595.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

are your speeds consistent? how much are u paying?
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[Ulic Qel-Droma]

are your speeds consistent? how much are u paying?
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hes probably paying ~144 package (that's stand alone)
when 250 rolls around he'll be getting 250 down and 15 up.

[ime2006]

are your speeds consistent? how much are u paying?
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Not too bad,

It stays around 85~95mbps

I m using broadband 100, without any bundle.
So, i m paying 84 bux now.

[lilaznviper]

just did a speed test and its horrible

http://www.speedtest.net/result/1376224504.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

on extreme

[ime2006]

just did a speed test and its horrible

http://www.speedtest.net/result/1376224504.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

on extreme

I was on extreme this morning...then i switched to BB 100

When i was on extreme, I never had that terrible speed of yours.....
Mine was consistent at 20~23mbps as i remember.

I think its ur area...Some area has really really terrible speed....Especially in the apartment.

[StylinRed]

Yeah Extreme/internet in general, was really slow in the Early AM / today

they must have been doing some maintenance

this is what im at currently though

http://www.speedtest.net/result/1376246605.png

downloading too

[Oleophobic]

BTW anyone else shaw is slow as shit right now or is it just me? Rupert 22 to 29th ave area.

I live in that area too and for the past few days it's been slow as shit

Broadband 50


0.39 Mbps.....
lol thank god it's not just me

http://www.speedtest.net/result/1376251154.png

fuck gonna call in tomorrow this is ridiculous

[Leetastic]

http://www.speedtest.net/result/1376250988.png
Jesus... I don't know if its just me but holy fuck, ever since I reformatted my computer my rates dropped from like 2.3mb down to 30kb... or is it just Shaw?
I formatted my computer like 6 times in one day and been searching around.

[EmOne]

just did a speed test and its horrible

http://www.speedtest.net/result/1376224504.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

on extreme

My speed is still slow as fuck, after my internet went down 2 days ago.
What the fuck?

http://www.speedtest.net/result/1376253948.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

[lilaznviper]

^which area are you in?
I'm in the Nanaimo skytrain station area

[EmOne]

^which area are you in?
I'm in the Nanaimo skytrain station area

Very close to you. Knight and kingsway.
Looks like there's a problem on shaws end.

[striderblade]

Haha well I was about to post here for more nerd rage and my net went down. So posting this using my phone instead.. July 8 12:20am. Shaw down again. Time to call and raise hell
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[EmOne]

Haha well I was about to post here for more nerd rage and my net went down. So posting this using my phone instead.. July 8 12:20am. Shaw down again. Time to call and raise hell
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my just went down for 10 mins. Back up now

[EmOne]

Nice, speeds are back to normal

http://www.speedtest.net/result/1376339863.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

[ShadowBun]

lol im on extreme and max i usually get here is 2-5Mb/S
http://www.speedtest.net/result/1376342746.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

[striderblade]

Hmm thinking of switching to the 100 bundle. So my dlink 655 router will not work with that plan and i'm force to use that shitty smc router they provide?

[turbomelon]

their shitty smc router probably wont be able to handle heavy loads either. It's slow, and prone to freezing up/restarting. What I did was just turn off the wifi and routing capabilities of the smc modem/router by calling shaw. I tried to change the settings myself but everytime it restarted it'd just wipe my changes.

As for router, I'm sure a cisco unit or custom built router would be ideal. So far I've had 5 days of heavy downloading between 10-11 megabytes a second (80-88mbps) without a hitch.

[Mr.HappySilp]

http://www.speedtest.net/result/1377092788.png
O YEA!!