[BrRsn]

just drop bcrdukes' name at most RS sponsors for instant discount and savings

[TypeRNammer]

My winters only stayed on for 1.5 months, I'm already back to my regular wheels.

[bcrdukes]

just drop bcrdukes' name at most RS sponsors for instant discount and savings

You'd get banned from the establishment in no time for being associated with a racist.

[BrRsn]

You'd get banned from the establishment in no time for being associated with a racist.

hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAH H!


Yu so funny la

[Lomac]

So... who else is experiencing snow right now?

:fullofwin:

[GabAlmighty]

So... who else is experiencing snow right now?

:fullofwin:

Hahaha, ya got about 2-3" of "snow" at work today by Centennial high school in Coquitlam. Pretty impressive but the roads were clear within an hour haha.

[Graeme S]

Sorry about the snow guys. I swapped my summers on, and posted a picture of the sun to a friend in Winnipeg.


My bad.

[Amuse]

Anyone put their snow tires back on?

[westopher]

Next week for me if my stud kit gets here. If not I'm waiting until the week after.

[roastpuff]

Already on... But that's probably because I'm moving to Burns Lake (near Prince George).
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[dared3vil0]

Still deciding if i should bother to buy them, or rock the stock all seasons all winter... Hmm...

[Energy]

This thread makes me sad :(

[dared3vil0]

What? Why?

[Volvo-brickster]

remembrance day long weekend ill swap

[cho]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/1452546_10151796934677515_1374226240_n.jpg
:okay:

[dared3vil0]

Hella sunk.

:troll:

[Acura604]

Noticed a lot of tire slippage today with the wet roads and low 6 degrees but I think I can hold out until the Remembrance Day Weekend also. My all seasons have 80% tread and simply didn't feel right when driving today.

[Lomac]

Figures. Booked an appointment a couple weeks ago to get my winter tires installed this upcoming Tuesday and it's currently snowing.

:rolleyes:

[Skittlez160]

Yup, just got my stock wheels with winter tires back on today. Got the wife's CR-V done today too.

[GabAlmighty]

Next week for me if my stud kit gets here. If not I'm waiting until the week after.

You're putting studded tires on...

[fliptuner]

You're putting studded tires on...

Prob means studs vs. bolts

[StylinRed]

was going to wait a couple weeks but wow temps are down this week

[thumper]

put my snows back on during thanksgiving while it was still sort of dry and warm(ish). never going to run summers through the winter ever again after the one season i did that and my z-rated tires were never right afterwards and i busted an aftermarket wheel in a pothole i couldn't see under the leaves covering it.

this morning i had to scrape my windows in the 2'c (indicated) weather after spending 30 minutes trying to find out where i left the scraper from last winter.

cold.

and it's only the start of november...

sigh.

[dared3vil0]

You're putting studded tires on...

No no, on his M3 the wheels are held on with bolts, which makes it exceedingly difficult to get everything to line up properly, so he's replacing the bolts with studs so you can put the wheels on normally.

[Acura604]

I assume most of you with summers havE switched out already....anyone rocking all seasons and waiting it out further? Still relatively mild during daytime temps.

[fsy82]

So BCAA has changed my summer to winter and winter summer tires every year for the last two years. I called in today and they said they never do it and that its probably just the driver doing a courtesy. I told the dispatcher I called in specifically to have the my rims swapped out every year and why is this year any different. She said she will get her supervisor to call me back. (My winter tires are already mounted and balanced on my winter stock rims)


1hr and still waiting...

[westopher]

In one hour you could have already done it yourself twice. You are on an automotive website and won't even swap your own wheels?

[fsy82]

In one hour you could have already done it yourself twice. You are on an automotive website and won't even swap your own wheels?

Nope dont have a low jack. have a baby that travels with me so I prefer to have the wheel locks torqued properly and again I have a baby so I'd prefer using my time with him. Not everyone on RS wants to change tires themselves. If you do great that's your preference. I prefer otherwise.

[westopher]

Teach the baby to work on cars. :)

[fliptuner]

Taught my last 5-6 gfs how change wheels, oil, brakes and jumpstart their car. :awwyeah:

[meme405]

I put my winter wheels on on friday. Looks so sad now...:okay:

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s52/meme405/IMAG0314_zpse6477bdf.jpg (http://s149.photobucket.com/user/meme405/media/IMAG0314_zpse6477bdf.jpg.html)

That sunken in look. :ahwow:

[MindBomber]

Changed over this morning.

I took me 16 minutes total using the spare tire jack (as my proper jack is at my other place). I torqued the lug nuts down with a torque wrench, and I'll re-torque them in 100 kilometers or so as a precaution.

[fliptuner]

MB went pitstop style, no fucking around lol

[Lomac]

Got my winters put on last week, and not a moment too soon. That very night we got 6 inches of snow up at my place. Kept it out of 4x4 for a little while and decided to have some fun :lol But, man... so glad I've got four wheel drive. Tried going up the switchbacks on my road in just rwd and it wasn't doing very well. Swapped to four wheels and voila... not a problem at all.

Yokohama Geolander I/T. Love 'em. :love:

[MikeyStyle]

got my winter tires put on last friday! all ready for the snow!

[MindBomber]

MB went pitstop style, no fucking around lol

I only live out boyhood dreams of being on a NASCAR pitcrew twice a year, dammit!

:okay:

(lol at NASCAR).

[fliptuner]

One solution: MORE CARS!!!!

Can imagine your neighbors.... "why the fuck is he running?"

:lol

[Iceman-19]

Winter tires? If we see snow in the next 2 months in the lower mainland I will be surprised. Rocking 35" mud tires allllllll winter. Won't even use 4x4 unless I go snowboarding.

[meme405]

Winter tires? If we see snow in the next 2 months in the lower mainland I will be surprised. Rocking 35" mud tires allllllll winter. Won't even use 4x4 unless I go snowboarding.

They are winter tires, not snow tires. Maybe we won't see snow, but we will surely see sub-zero temperatures. Some of us like to be able to maintain decent stopping distances, safety first...

[dared3vil0]

I'm going to rock all seasons for this winter, (brand new michelins) if it snows, i just won't drive it.

[westopher]

Winter tires? If we see snow in the next 2 months in the lower mainland I will be surprised. Rocking 35" mud tires allllllll winter. Won't even use 4x4 unless I go snowboarding.Oh so you're the guy in the jacked up truck going 50km/h that I pass in a slammed car every winter on the way to whistler. I can understand not giving a shit if you don't plan on leaving the city, but that is no bueno on an icy highway. Its pretty rare to encounter a ton of snow on the S2S but the last 30 minutes of driving is pretty slick, and pretty busy. Not somewhere thats good to be sliding around.

[Lomac]

I remember driving down to Seattle a few years back and travelling the I5. Lots of snow had fallen the day before and the highway was still a little slippery in the mountains. There I was, trundling along in my slammed GTI, and my girlfriend at the time and I counted no less than ten SUV's and trucks that had slid off into the ditch. :lol

[dared3vil0]

That's because people think no matter how inappropriate their tires, no matter how inexperience at snow driving they are, as soon as they snick that little lever into "4hi" they are unstoppable.

[Iceman-19]

Oh so you're the guy in the jacked up truck going 50km/h that I pass in a slammed car every winter on the way to whistler. I can understand not giving a shit if you don't plan on leaving the city, but that is no bueno on an icy highway. Its pretty rare to encounter a ton of snow on the S2S but the last 30 minutes of driving is pretty slick, and pretty busy. Not somewhere thats good to be sliding around.

I grew up driving in the snow, I am the guy driving around the idiots that think 4x4 means SNOW DOESNT AFFECT ME, that are on their roof in the ditch. I was making a sarcastic, inflammatory comment, which got you square in the feels. :ilied:

It was also a true comment, which also hurt your feels even more.

[Iceman-19]

That's because people think no matter how inappropriate their tires, no matter how inexperience at snow driving they are, as soon as they snick that little lever into "4hi" they are unstoppable.

To me, 4hi is more like the YEE HAW switch.

[Iceman-19]

Maybe Ill even offer my services to pull out lousy drivers this winter, like was set up a few winters ago. Havent washed my truck in months, winter ready. Lets do this. Just gotta get a tow strap and some other stuff.

[westopher]

I grew up driving in the snow, I am the guy driving around the idiots that think 4x4 means SNOW DOESNT AFFECT ME, that are on their roof in the ditch. I was making a sarcastic, inflammatory comment, which got you square in the feels. :ilied:

It was also a true comment, which also hurt your feels even more.
So it was true... or you lied? I also grew up driving in central alberta, snowboarding 40+ days a season since I got my license, so I'm well aware how knowing how to drive in the snow on race tires is probably better than an idiot with winter tires. Someone who isn't an idiot on winter tires is my ideal situation though.

[MindBomber]

Winter tires aren't an extra cost, per se. The net tire wear is roughly unchanged whether one uses winters/summers or all-seasons, so why not use the best performing arrangement?

[thumper]

Changed over this morning.

I took me 16 minutes total using the spare tire jack (as my proper jack is at my other place). I torqued the lug nuts down with a torque wrench, and I'll re-torque them in 100 kilometers or so as a precaution.

dammit, it takes me more than 16 minutes to get my car ramped on on 2x10's i cut up so that i can get the car high enough to barely get the jack under it :okay:

[Iceman-19]

So it was true... or you lied? I also grew up driving in central alberta, snowboarding 40+ days a season since I got my license, so I'm well aware how knowing how to drive in the snow on race tires is probably better than an idiot with winter tires. Someone who isn't an idiot on winter tires is my ideal situation though.

Ill never tell. :ifyouknow:

[Iceman-19]

Winter tires aren't an extra cost, per se. The net tire wear is roughly unchanged whether one uses winters/summers or all-seasons, so why not use the best performing arrangement?

Because the net loss of time wasted is not worth the effort, when the chances of the external weather temp is probably not going to dip much below -3, and thats at night, in Jan/Feb. Gonna be a mild winter folks.

[meme405]

Iceman you made a stupid comment, don't come back and try to defend it.

Winter tires exist for a reason, your make or model of car has absolutely no bearing on whether or not you need them or not. People say stupid things like I have AWD or 4x4 so I can go anywhere even without winter tires. These people should be banned from driving. Your tires are the only thing that connect you to the ground in your car. They are the single most important safety device on any car. Having AWD or 4x4 only helps you get going, eventually you are going to need to stop, and since all cars have 4 wheel braking, this is where good tires come into play. To allow you to transfer that braking power into actual stopping power.

From October 1 to April 30 in the province of BC, your car can (and will) be deemed un-roadworthy if you do not have winter tires. This means your insurance company can place you at fault for any accidents you are involved in.

Your winter driving prowess is not going to do shit for you when the guy with studded winter tires in front of you slams on his brakes to avoid "all the idiots" who are piling up in front of him. Instead you will go barreling into him and join "the lousy drivers" on the side of the road.

[meme405]

Because the net loss of time wasted is not worth the effort, when the chances of the external weather temp is probably not going to dip much below -3, and thats at night, in Jan/Feb. Gonna be a mild winter folks.

Sorry so now you are a meteorologist to?

[Iceman-19]

Iceman you made a stupid comment, don't come back and try to defend it.

Winter tires exist for a reason, your make or model of car has absolutely no bearing on whether or not you need them or not. People say stupid things like I have AWD or 4x4 so I can go anywhere even without winter tires. These people should be banned from driving. Your tires are the only thing that connect you to the ground in your car. They are the single most important safety device on any car. Having AWD or 4x4 only helps you get going, eventually you are going to need to stop, and since all cars have 4 wheel braking, this is where good tires come into play. To allow you to transfer that braking power into actual stopping power.

From October 1 to April 30 in the province of BC, your car can (and will) be deemed un-roadworthy if you do not have winter tires. This means your insurance company can place you at fault for any accidents you are involved in.

Your winter driving prowess is not going to do shit for you when the guy with studded winter tires in front of you slams on his brakes to avoid "all the idiots" who are piling up in front of him. Instead you will go barreling into him and join "the lousy drivers" on the side of the road.

I sense some serious jimmy rustling.:lawl:

[Iceman-19]

Sorry so now you are a meteorologist to?

Im on the internet, I know things. :fullofwin:

[dared3vil0]

Iceman, Mud tires suck in literally every single weather condition except... well... Mud. (and yes, mud tires do function relatively well when you are trying to churn through 5+ feet of snow, but we simply don't get that in BC unless you go snow wheeling... Kind of a moot point). Your truck already doesn't stop very well in the dry, with mud tires + snow? I sure hope i'm not in front of you if i need to do a panic stop, cause you're coming right through my back window. Sure with 4x4 you'll be able to get going, but that means 100% nothing in winter driving. Stopping and steering are the only things that matter. If you can't do that, get the fuck off the road.

[Iceman-19]

Jimmies. Much Rustling.

[Iceman-19]

Ill bet anyone $100 that I will drive all winter, and no get into or cause a single accident.

[meme405]

Jimmies. Much Rustling.

Were doing you a favour, but you are to stupid to see it. I honestly hope when you crash this winter you don't take someone innocent out with you.

EDIT:

Ill bet anyone $100 that I will drive all winter, and no get into or cause a single accident.

I hope you don't crash either, as I wouldnt wish that on anyone. BUT if you you, I really hope someone else doesnt get caught in your stupid decision...

[dared3vil0]

Ill bet anyone $100 that I will drive all winter, and no get into or cause a single accident.

I'm not taking you up on that, as that would imply i WANT you to get into an accident to win said $100...

[dared3vil0]

Jimmies. Much Rustling.

If you were the only driver on the road, i couldn't care less what tires you run, the only person you could hurt is you. When we bring other people into it, it just becomes a bit dumb...

[Iceman-19]

Were doing you a favour, but you are to stupid to see it. I honestly hope when you crash this winter you don't take someone innocent out with you.

EDIT:



I hope you don't crash either, as I wouldnt wish that on anyone. BUT if you you, I really hope someone else doesnt get caught in your stupid decision...

What favor, pray tell, was that? Telling me things that I have known for 15 years of driving?

[bcrdukes]

C'mon guys. We all know that Iceman-19 is a proud supporter of green initiatives and takes Translink while shopping for fresh organic produce all while proudly rocking his lensless frames. He can't drive any better than the Asian moms in Richmond on No. 3 Road during rush hour.

[Iceman-19]

Heres a thought for you amazing drivers. Have you ever thought that people that with winter tires, might develop the same habits of the average money with an AWD SUV in the winter, feeling invincible, and there fore, thinking they can drive just as fast as usual, causing crashes? Drivers cause crashes, not the tires.

Here's a special secret I will let you in on, something I have learned. When conditions worsen, you can and should slow down and drive within your abilities.

[Iceman-19]

C'mon guys. We all know that Iceman-19 is a proud supporter of green initiatives and takes Translink while shopping for fresh organic produce all while proudly rocking his lensless frames. He can't drive any better than the Asian moms in Richmond on No. 3 Road during rush hour.

Sadly I am apparently out of thanks. I owe you one.

[meme405]

What favor, pray tell, was that? Telling me things that I have known for 15 years of driving?

So you admit to knowing that winter tires are the appropriate choice for driving, yet you are too arrogant in your driving skill to be bothered to change out your tires?

Cause apparently thats all it is, it's not a cost issue, as MB made clear. It's simply the fact that you are too lazy to swap out your wheels...

EDIT: Jesus bud we are not talking about driving speeds here, obviously we all know just because I have winter tires on my AWD SUV doesn't mean I should go 150 in 6 inches of snow...There is obviously no getting through to you so I will give up here.

[bcrdukes]

Sadly I am apparently out of thanks. I owe you one.

See, guys? He's harmless.

[fliptuner]

dammit, it takes me more than 16 minutes to get my car ramped on on 2x10's i cut up so that i can get the car high enough to barely get the jack under it :okay:

On one of my cars, I'm lucky enough to have a jacking point under the rad support and a rear tow hook. I just drive up on blocks to get the jack under the front and the rear is high enough that I don't need blocks.

On the other cars, there's no place to jack the front and the crossmember, under the engine is too far in for the jack to reach (lowered or not). In that case, I'll just drive up on a 1' long 2x4 and jack the whole side up from the reinforced pinch weld on the rocker (ebrake and wheel chocked on the other side). Less than ideal, sure but you can always chuck a stand under the control arm brace while you swap the tires.

Heres a thought for you amazing drivers. Have you ever thought that people that with winter tires, might develop the same habits of the average money with an AWD SUV in the winter, feeling invincible, and there fore, thinking they can drive just as fast as usual, causing crashes? Drivers cause crashes, not the tires.

Here's a special secret I will let you in on, something I have learned. When conditions worsen, you can and should slow down and drive within your abilities.

First thing I do when the road conditions go to shit, is find an empty road/parking lot and do a few sharp turns at speed and slam on my brakes a few times. Nothing like knowing how your car's going to react, beforehand.

[Iceman-19]

So you admit to knowing that winter tires are the appropriate choice for driving, yet you are too arrogant in your driving skill to be bothered to change out your tires?

Cause apparently thats all it is, it's not a cost issue, as MB made clear. It's simply the fact that you are too lazy to swap out your wheels...

EDIT: Jesus bud we are not talking about driving speeds here, obviously we all know just because I have winter tires on my AWD SUV doesn't mean I should go 150 in 6 inches of snow...There is obviously no getting through to you so I will give up here.

:woot2:

I have owned a half bald set of winter tires on a Toyota Cressida I had one winter when I lived in the Okanagan. I threw them on because I had them. Other then that, I have never owned a set of winter tires. Suck it Trebek.

[Iceman-19]

See, guys? He's harmless.

Some might say I am harmful.:nyan:

[Acura604]

:troll: ... Saturday ...


http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/4185/qig0.jpg

METRO VANCOUVER - Whether you love the first snowfall of the season or dread its arrival, you’ll probably want to get out the woolly hats and gloves.

Environment Canada forecasters are predicting snow and freezing temperatures are on the way for Metro Vancouver.

The federal weather agency says the region can expect snow flurries on Saturday, and again on Tuesday, with temperatures dipping down to minus 2 C early next week.

Doug Lundquist, a meteorologist with Environment Canada, said a cold front is moving in, but the snow likely won’t stick in the city on Saturday.

“This is not a crippling snow event for Metro Vancouver,” he said. “But we may see some snow stick on the ground at higher elevations.”

There’s still time to enjoy the sunshine and mild temperatures though. Forecasters say today will be sunny with highs of 12 degrees C, and tomorrow is expected to be a mix of sun and cloud with highs of 10 degrees C.

Lundquist said despite the winter forecast, November has been unseasonably warm. He said Tuesday’s highs of 14.6 degrees C broke the record set in 1953.

ticrawford@vancouversun.com

[Kilinim]

Where's a cheap place to have snow tires installed in Surrey?
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[Iceman-19]

Might have snow stick to the ground, at higher elevations. In other words, it won't snow.

[dared3vil0]

It never does...

[Iceman-19]

That would mean fun for all.

[hk20000]

It got so warm today I sweated bullets.

[Iceman-19]

It got so warm today I sweated bullets.

You should box and sell them.

[fsy82]

Where's a cheap place to have snow tires installed in Surrey?
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Alpi's on 128th

[booge_man]

Anyone know a good cheap place that installs? and stores your tires?
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[LuHua]

Volco tires do storage for $60, I think

[thumper]

Volco tires do storage for $60, I think

i caught the tail end of a radio commerical from canadian tire saying they are now also offering storage service... does anyone know how much it costs?

[booge_man]

Would be sweet if we could get someone like NTW or Kal Tire to do a RS Members swap and store deal.
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[Spectre_Cdn]

Got mine on today :fuckyea:

[JSALES]

thinking of putting mine on tomorrow

[dared3vil0]

Oh, for the shocking amount of people i see doing this... Snowies that have so little tread left that they look like slicks are going to be 100% useless in ANY condition.

[LuHua]

Oh, for the shocking amount of people i see doing this... Snowies that have so little tread left that they look like slicks are going to be 100% useless in ANY condition.

Except maybe when driving in an ice rink. Honestly though, it's pretty sketch since minimum tread depth for snow is around 4-5/32".

[Iceman-19]

BUT THEY HAVE SNOW TIRES ITS WAY BETTER.

[meme405]

BUT THEY HAVE SNOW TIRES ITS WAY BETTER.

I assumed people were not completely retarded... I should really stop giving people the benefit of the doubt...

In other news, I just put on my snowboard racks and I am off to whistler in about a 1/2 hour. OPENING DAY HERE I COME!!!!

[thumper]

i was in deep cove tonight and all the cars coming down from mt. seymour are covered in snow... snowboarding season is here!

[Noran]

Put them on both Jettas on Monday. RSX gets garage treatment once the roads start being salted.

[Acura604]

Quick question.

FWD.

WINTEr Tires with most tread front or rear?
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[Lowered_Klass]

^Front

[Acura604]

^^ I dunno as per this article



Two Tires Done Wrong. New Tires must go on the Back.

The depth of tread on a tire directly impacts at what point a tire will begin to hydroplane.

FACT: Tires on the front will typically wear more than tires on the rear of a vehicle.

FACT: If the tires are rotated every 5,000 to 8,000 miles, the tires on the vehicle will have reasonably even tread.

FACT: Many people don't rotate their tires every 5,000 to 8,000 miles. Thus, when they have their tires looked at, the front tires have worn out and the back tires still have some tread life left on them. It is thus necessary to only replace the front tires.

FACT: If one pair of tires has more tread on them than the other pair, then the pair with less tread will begin to hydroplane with less water on the road surface than the other pair.

FACT: If the pair of tires which begin to hydroplane first is on the front of the vehicle, it is far easier to regain control of the vehicle. First, the driver will feel the skid in the steering when the skid begins. Second, the intuitive action of taking your foot off the accelerator and steering into the direction of the skid will prevent loss of control. When it is the back tires which begin to skid, it is much more difficult to control. The loss of control is much harder to detect because it isn’t felt in the steering wheel and the actions to control are counterintuitive (turning away from the direction of the skid).

Thus: Every tire manufacturer recommends that the new tires (or in a rotation situation) that the tires with the most tread be mounted on the rear.
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[smoothie.]

I'm ready for SNOWWW

[Iceman-19]

I assumed people were not completely retarded... I should really stop giving people the benefit of the doubt...

Wtf, are you new here? Welcome to earth Daven Dingus.:suspicious:

[Lomac]

Drove the Coquihalla last night. Got stuck behind some semi trucks that didn't bother chaining up before attempting the peak of the Summit going towards Hope and ended up waiting for a good couple hours before the tow trucks and snow plows could make enough space for us to squeeze by. Lots of snow between Hope and Merrit, but around the Snow Shed had a good 6 inches on the unplowed lanes, and it was covering a nice thick sheet of ice.

First real workout for my new tires in 4x4 mode and they rocked like a champ.

https://scontent-b-sea.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/1459260_10153492630025080_490070023_n.jpg

I'll try to pull some sketchy dash cam footage later, though. Have I ever mentioned I hate being passed by semi trucks while driving in slush? :rant:

[a00755836]

just put on winter tires (on rims) last tuesday. $25 at openroad toyota richmond.

[v_tec]

just put on winter tires (on rims) last tuesday. $25 at openroad toyota richmond.

I assume this is $24.99 + tax?

How much in "shop fees" did they tried to charge you?

[Kaolinite]

put on my snow tires today.. but 1 of them has a delamming sidewall fuuuu

[a00755836]

I assume this is $24.99 + tax?

How much in "shop fees" did they tried to charge you?
actually, $24.95 + tax.

no shop fees for me.

[JesseBlue]

good price..i went with kal tire in surrey and it was around 50 bux but they were very accommodating and stayed longer than their normal business hours so i'm good with that..

[dared3vil0]

All-seasons only. :troll:

http://i738.photobucket.com/albums/xx27/dared3vil0/Mobile%20Uploads/photo_zpsbd4c5826.png?t=1384711516

[Iceman-19]

Where is that? I want to go play............I just see rain.

[maksimizer]

Snow tires cause accident due to over confident drivers.
Stick with my HPF summers / all seasons / car based.

Because we get SO MUCH SNOW in Hongcouver.

:facepalm:

[dared3vil0]

Where is that? I want to go play............I just see rain.

Cypress.

[thumper]

pics from last year of my epic 3 hour commute from burnaby to surrey that normally takes an hour... i still remember people posting "oh it dosen't snow in vancouver" and then this crap fell from the sky. i especially have a soft spot for the big courier truck sitting in the slow lane of the first pic. we were all lined up behind it thinking there was traffic in front of it, but in reality, it was just abandoned there with no hazard lights or a driver. good times.

[eason_c]

Putting on snow tires today. Can't wait to hit the mountain.

[IMASA]

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3088/3107059965_9b186e7cca_z.jpg?zz=1

[meme405]

Snow tires cause accident due to over confident drivers.
Stick with my HPF summers / all seasons / car based.

Because we get SO MUCH SNOW in Hongcouver.

:facepalm:

I thanked this because I couldn't fail him, and I had to do something...LOL

SkinnyPup I need my fail button back...

[dared3vil0]

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3088/3107059965_9b186e7cca_z.jpg?zz=1

replace "Winter tires" with "driving skill" and "em" with "it", and you have Vancouver.

[HondaGuy]

Both work van and suv are equipped with toyo g-02 winter tires/steelies on...
Feels nice with new tread, bit road noise but common...

Hibernating the garage queen as usual and new bigger suv

Drive safe everyone
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[hk20000]

Both the FWD and RWD battle mobiles are snow tires equipped right now.

[falcon]

Still rocking the Advan Neovas... lol. Good thing for TC.

[ScratchedMy991]

Snow tires cause accident due to over confident drivers.
Stick with my HPF summers / all seasons / car based.

Because we get SO MUCH SNOW in Hongcouver.

:facepalm:

Snow tires do not exist. Winter tires do, and they exist for the purpose of doing what their name implies: winter use.

All-season rubber does not grip as well as winter rubber does in cold weather, hence the term winter tires. Snow is not a prerequisite to slap on winter tires.

Don't be an ignorant clown. Put on some winter tires.

[GG]

Snow tires cause accident due to over confident drivers.
Stick with my HPF summers / all seasons / car based.

Because we get SO MUCH SNOW in Hongcouver.

:facepalm:

ignorance is a bliss

[henry604]

Where do you guys go to get your winter tires mounted?

[bloodmack]

at a tire shop :derp:

[dared3vil0]

Where do you guys go to get your winter tires mounted?

Safeway.

:derp:

[jing]

Brand new Blizzaks on yesterday... Hoping for a good snow dump this year to utilize my AWD and practice what I learned at Dirtfish
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[fliptuner]

practice what I learned at Dirtfish


jelly.

Hoping a session GC is in my stocking this year.

[XplicitLuder]

Brand new xi2 on couple says ago n raised the car. Feels good to not flinch everytime I go over a pothole LOL
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[GabAlmighty]

Still not using winter tires in Saskatchewan here, where you know we actually get a winter. MT's are doing just ok with a little bit of common sense.

Although having a lunchbox locker in the back makes things interesting...

[meme405]

Although having a lunchbox locker in the back makes things interesting...

What do you mean?

I used to always dump a good pile of snow at the very back of my bed to keep the back end weighed down. really helped stop the wheel spin on hill starts.

[dared3vil0]

What do you mean?

I used to always dump a good pile of snow at the very back of my bed to keep the back end weighed down. really helped stop the wheel spin on hill starts.

:lawl:
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
LOOOOOOOL
LOLOLOL

He doesn't literally mean a metal cabinet that holds lunches (lunchbox locker)

He means a device in the rear differential that makes the two rear tires spin at the same speed. It's like a Limited Slip differential in a sense.

[Lomac]

Lunchbox Lockers - What is a Lunchbox locker? (http://www.offroaders.com/tech/Lunchbox-lockers.htm)

;)

[iPee]

Just picked up my set of blizzaks from Pt.Roberts this morning, lucky that I didn't get taxed.

[v_tec]

Where do you guys go to get your winter tires mounted?

Safeway.

:derp:

Got mines done at Superstore yesterday, no tax ftw :fullofwin:

[dared3vil0]

:fullofwin:

[T4RAWR]

:fullofwin:

[mekaw]

Is there snow up at cypress right now?

[dared3vil0]

Considering they're open, i would assume so. :derp:

[fliptuner]

Is there snow up at cypress right now?

Brb, looking out the window.

[dared3vil0]

Brb, looking out the window.

So, what did you see?



:troll:

[westopher]

A bunch of dirt and a 10x30 foot patch of man made ice rain pushed together on one run.

[dared3vil0]

Definitely not worth it. This heavy rain should be giving all the mountains a nice dump on "real" snow!

[thumper]

maybe tomorrow then? if those news reports about flurries in the lower areas are true, that should translate into real snow on the mountains hopefully?

[dared3vil0]

Yeah they got a dumping last night.

[Lomac]

Lotsa snow dumped this weekend. Can't wait to get the Pathfinder back so I can start doing some snow 4x4'ing. :fullofwin:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/lomac/20131201_090048_zps238b2a85.jpg

[Amuse]

Vancouver, British Columbia - 14 Day Weather Trend - The Weather Network (http://www.theweathernetwork.com/14-day-weather-trend/canada/british-columbia/vancouver)

[Lomac]

Woot!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/lomac/20131201_095744_zps8581d427.jpg

[Hondaracer]

Was happy to notice that the BF Goodrich all terrains I got for my truck are actually winter rated as well!
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[mekaw]

Considering they're open, i would assume so. :derp:

Guess I wasn't clear enough. mainly the parking lot.

checked today and it's bone dry.

[thumper]

black ice today people. i was heading out to work at 5am and saw tow trucks pulling out a civic in the ditch in front of gardenworks burnaby on lougheed.

weather forecast said -4'c but i saw -11'c on the temp display in the car?!?

the plow trucks are out deicing but too little too late i guess for some.

[Acura604]

A friendly reminder... Michelin MXM4 are crap on snow/ice... get your winters on NOW.


THIS was the incident back in our last BIG dumping of 2008 that made me a firm believer in winter tires. Alley way was a sheet of ice covered with snow. absolutely no traction... it didn't help that the TL was an auto though.

GO GO TL - YouTube

[GabAlmighty]

It was -45 this morning and no amount of cranking would start the Toyota. Finally got it started this afternoon.

How cold is it in Vancouver again?

Oh, and I don't have winter tires. Just mud terrains and a locker.

[dared3vil0]

Supposed to be -17 tonight with wind chill.

[zx7rrrr]

A friendly reminder... Michelin MXM4 are crap on snow/ice... get your winters on NOW.


THIS was the incident back in our last BIG dumping of 2008 that made me a firm believer in winter tires. Alley way was a sheet of ice covered with snow. absolutely no traction... it didn't help that the TL was an auto though.

GO GO TL - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWKQQsdLJGA)

No offense but u suck at winter driving.

[meme405]

A friendly reminder... Michelin MXM4 are crap on snow/ice... get your winters on NOW.


THIS was the incident back in our last BIG dumping of 2008 that made me a firm believer in winter tires. Alley way was a sheet of ice covered with snow. absolutely no traction... it didn't help that the TL was an auto though.

GO GO TL - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWKQQsdLJGA)

Smart move getting out of your car while it is in gear and the wheel is spinning. Would have been hilarious if you had gotten traction and it went through that fence...

[Mr.Stubbz]

A friendly reminder... Michelin MXM4 are crap on snow/ice... get your winters on NOW.


THIS was the incident back in our last BIG dumping of 2008 that made me a firm believer in winter tires. Alley way was a sheet of ice covered with snow. absolutely no traction... it didn't help that the TL was an auto though.

GO GO TL - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWKQQsdLJGA)

Ghost riding the whip, winter edition :fullofwin:

[Acura604]

No offense but u suck at winter driving.

No offense but I don't give a shit what u think jackass.
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[Acura604]

Smart move getting out of your car while it is in gear and the wheel is spinning. Would have been hilarious if you had gotten traction and it went through that fence...

Relax. Car wasn't going anywhere. Would be more hilarious if you were standing in front and I GOT traction!
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[Acura604]

Smart move getting out of your car while it is in gear and the wheel is spinning. Would have been hilarious if you had gotten traction and it went through that fence...

Relax. Car wasn't going anywhere. Would be more hilarious if you were standing in front and I GOT traction!
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[dared3vil0]

Relax. Car wasn't going anywhere. Would be more hilarious if you were standing in front and I GOT traction!
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Car wasn't going anywhere unless it found traction!

Also, implying it would be hilarious to run someone over with your car is... Not the brightest thing to say...

[Acura604]

Car wasn't going anywhere unless it found traction!

Also, implying it would be hilarious to run someone over with your car is... Not the brightest thing to say...

Relax... car wasn't going anywhere.. no way in hell it would have gotten traction that day.. we used everything... cat litter..sand... cardboard... it was stuck. stuck stuck. ..and chill about the running over someone ..sheesh... this is RS... no one takes anyone seriously, who r u? Father Teresa?

[dared3vil0]

Relax... car wasn't going anywhere.. no way in hell it would have gotten traction that day.. we used everything... cat litter..sand... cardboard... it was stuck. stuck stuck. ..and chill about the running over someone ..sheesh... this is RS... no one takes anyone seriously, who r u? Father Teresa?

1) I'm quite relaxed, comfy chair, fireplace... good book... macbook.... etc.
2) Who's Father Teresa? :suspicious:
3) Ever heard of pushing/shovelling? Not sure cardboard is going to help when you're stuck...
4) Keep a set of these with you... Amazon.com: Portable Tow Truck (orange): Automotive (http://www.amazon.com/Portable-Tow-Truck-orange/dp/B0046CZKIA)

[meme405]

1) I'm quite relaxed, comfy chair, fireplace... good book... macbook.... etc.
2) Who's Father Teresa? :suspicious:
3) Ever heard of pushing/shovelling? Not sure cardboard is going to help when you're stuck...
4) Keep a set of these with you... Amazon.com: Portable Tow Truck (orange): Automotive (http://www.amazon.com/Portable-Tow-Truck-orange/dp/B0046CZKIA)

LOL I LAUGHED SO HARD AT THE FATHER TERESA THING.

I just read it as mother teresa and moved on, but then I went back and read it and I actually ROFL'ed.

EDIT: Thats going into the siggy.

[bcrdukes]

Traction is overrated.

[dared3vil0]

LOL I LAUGHED SO HARD AT THE FATHER TERESA THING.

I just read it as mother teresa and moved on, but then I went back and read it and I actually ROFL'ed.

EDIT: Thats going into the siggy.

:fullofwin: :lawl:

[GabAlmighty]

I let my truck idle along in gear while I walk alongside it. This is to check and make sure that my hubs are disconnected.

[thumper]

Winter Tyres or 4x4: which is best? - Auto Express - YouTube

[thumper]

i think someone has posted this before but it is worth watching again:

Winter Tyres v Summer Tyres: the Truth! - Auto Express - YouTube

[thumper]

Winter tyres test: reviews and prices 2013 | Auto Express (http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/accessories-tyres/66645/winter-tyres-test-reviews-and-prices-2013)

[inv4zn]

20131209 201442 N - YouTube

From today: winter tires vs low rolling resistance tires!

I saw a forum somewhere where prius owners were erecting massive boners while bragging about the advanced technology that is their fuel-saving tires. :fuckthatshit:

[BoostedBB6]

When the lows get to 7degrees a few times is when I put the winters on the TL.

That is when the regular rubber in an AS tire gets to hard to deal with the cooler temps and you will begin to see the benefits of the winters......or so I am told from the manufacturers :P

[rk604]

Takes a bit longer for the tires to warm up, but I don't see any disadvantages until it actually snow.

[meme405]

Takes a bit longer for the tires to warm up, but I don't see any disadvantages until it actually snow.

No... Just no.


I saw a girl in a 335 stuck on a steeper section of lonsdale in NV. There was barely even a dusting of snow on the ground.:lawl:

[LuHua]

They're better on snow and ice for one, and are likely better in the wet too. At around 7 deg I doubt there'd be much of a difference, but considering that by the time we're under 7 consistently it's likely mid-November, so really why not put them on. By then there's a chance that we'd get a blast of arctic air.

[jing]

Too much grip with my underpowered car on Blizzaks, but very predictable when hooning.
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[thumper]

Takes a bit longer for the tires to warm up, but I don't see any disadvantages until it actually snow.

no. too many times have we seen a car spinning its wheels in one spot going nowhere heating up the tires to the point that they are smoking like it is in a burnout box at the drag strip?

[rk604]

In vancouver weather when its NOT snowing, is it really necessary? I don't think so. All seasons will be sufficient

[thumper]

In vancouver weather when its NOT snowing, is it really necessary? I don't think so. All seasons will be sufficient

just because there is no snow doesn't mean there isn't ice and sub-zero temperatures. your all-seasons will have the grip and ride quality of hockey pucks in either condition.

[BoostedBB6]

In vancouver weather when its NOT snowing, is it really necessary? I don't think so. All seasons will be sufficient

Necessary, no. Good idea, OH YEAH.

Your AS tires are hard as a rock when the temps drop. This means lack of grip, cold temps mean less friction on the road and easier to slide or skid even when there is no snow.

Winter tires does NOT mean snow tires.

[BrRsn]

Driving to school with a friend off RS yday, almost got into two accidents lol.

IDK about you guys, but my snowtires saved my ass twice -- in both cases I stopped with inches to spare.

Oh yeah, in vancouver I'll take a small FWD car with winters over a heavy AWD SUV anyday, when there's weather like this anyways.

[BoostedBB6]

Heavy SUV's tend to not fair well in the city when it comes to snow. Sure they have weight to get the initial traction, but it is that weight (momentum) that makes it harder to stop.

A little EG hatch with some snow tires is a great winter car. Light so it does not sink in deep snow, has the traction to get moving and not as much weight to bring to a stop.

[Iceman-19]

But boring as fuck to drive in the snow.

[meme405]

In vancouver weather when its NOT snowing, is it really necessary? I don't think so. All seasons will be sufficient

It might be sufficient, but come crunch time chances are you will end up stuck or sliding into the back of the other car who just stopped.

The videos thumper posted proved that winter tires make a difference in even just the rain, and not just a slight difference either.

AND FOR THE LAST FREAKING TIME, THEY ARE WINTER TIRES, NOT SNOW TIRES, AND ICBC SAYS YOU HAVE TO HAVE THEM. SO STOP BEING LAZY AND/OR CHEAP AND GO GET YOURSELF A SET. WITHOUT THEM YOU AREA HUGE HAZARD TO OTHERS ON THE ROAD.

Heavy SUV's tend to not fair well in the city when it comes to snow. Sure they have weight to get the initial traction, but it is that weight (momentum) that makes it harder to stop.

This is so true. I have very good winters on my car, and when it snows I still have to drive extremely defensively, because there is a lot of other cars who can stop more quickly then me. My car simply has so much weight to slow down that it just takes more time than other cars... I mean at the end of the day we are talking about a car with a curb weight well over 4000lbs.

[thumper]

circa 2010, but it still applies:

What You Need to Know About Winter Tires - YouTube

[Iceman-19]

ICBC SAYS SO. DO WHAT THE MAN SAYS.

[BoostedBB6]

Costal
http://www.th.gov.bc.ca/SeasonalDriving/winter/maps/3516-Tires&Chains_R1Map.pdf

Interior
http://www.th.gov.bc.ca/SeasonalDriving/winter/maps/3516-Tires&Chains_R2Map.pdf

Here is a PDT showing what roads REQUIRE you to have winter tires (have the snowflake on the side). If you do not have these tires on them you are not legal for driving on that road. If you are involved in an accident you are 100% at fault, and will not be insured.

If anyone crashes into me in the snow and I see no snow flake I will sue you out of house and home....and be warned, if my kids are in the car the lawyer is the least of your worries. GET WINTERS ON YOUR CAR!!
If you cant afford winters YOU CANT AFFORD TO DRIVE IN VANCOUVER. Go buy a bus pass.

[BoostedBB6]

Regardless of tires used or the vehicle driven, use caution when driving. Slow if your friend, smooth application of brake and gas.


Frequently Asked Questions (http://www.th.gov.bc.ca/popular-topics/faq.htm#winter_tires)
Click on "Winter Tires" if you need more clarification.


Winter Tires

Where are winter tires and chains required on BC highways?

There are Regulatory Signs (R047) posted in various locations on numbered highways throughout the province.

The R-047 Regulatory sign “Use Winter Tires or Carry Chains – Beyond This Point – October 1st – April 30th“ when placed upon a highway will prohibit vehicles from being driven or operated on a highway that are not equipped with winter tires or chains beyond that point when enforced by the police, ministry or other enforcement officials.

R-047

R-047 Sign

W-041

W-041 Sign

The W-041 Warning sign when placed upon a highway is to inform motorists that winter driving conditions can be expected on provincial highways from Oct 1st -Apr 30th. Therefore, motorist should be properly equipped with appropriate winter safety equipment between Oct 1st – April 30th, and may be prevented from proceeding on highways which have R-047 regulatory signs “Use Winter Tires or Carry Chains – Beyond This Point – October 1st – April 30th“ placed upon the highway.
Click on the maps below to see the regional highways requiring winter tires and/or chains. See also Tires and Chain-up Information.



Are there any regulations in B.C. that deal with winter tires?

See BC Motor Vehicle Act - (Chapter 318 - Part 3)

Safety equipment

208 (1) For the purpose of this section, “winter tire” means a tire that is

(a) advertised or represented by its manufacturer or a person in the business of selling tires to be a tire intended principally for winter use, and that provides, or is designed to provide, adequate traction in snow or mud; and

(b) in the condition respecting tread wear and other particulars the regulations prescribe.

(2) The Minister of Transportation and Highways may, by public notice or by placing signs, prohibit vehicles from being driven or operated on a highway that are not equipped with chains, winter tires or sanding devices, or a combination of these the minister considers adequate and necessary in view of prevailing road conditions.

(3) For the purposes of a prosecution under this section, the onus is on the defendant to prove that a tire alleged not to be a winter tire is in fact a winter tire.

See BC Motor Vehicle Act – Motor Vehicle Act Regulations - (Division 7 - Other Equipment)

Winter tires

7.162 A winter tire as defined in section 208 of the Act shall have not less than 3.5 mm of tread depth across the surface of the tire in contact with the road.

[en. B.C. Reg. 161/76, s. 1; am. B.C. Reg. 343/77.]

Are studded tires permitted on BC highways?

Yes, from October 1st to April 30th. Use of studded tires outside of this period may result in a fine.

See BC Motor Vehicle Act – Motor Vehicle Act Regulations – Section 19.03

See BC Motor Vehicle Act – Motor Vehicle Act Regulations – Section 20.

What are tires with a “severe winter service” rating?

Winter-Rated Snow Tires

Tires marked with the pictograph of a peaked mountain with a snowflake meet specific snow traction performance requirements, and have been designed specifically for use in severe snow conditions.

See Transport Canada - Safe Vehicles

There are all kinds of vehicles: cars, trucks, vans, school buses, scooters, motorcycles and more. All of these have to share the road, together, so it is important to understand what is different about each type and why all vehicles must be safe and well-maintained.

See Transport Canada - Winter Tires

What tires do you need for your driving conditions?

How many winter tires should be used on a car?

To help maintain control and stability of your vehicle in icy conditions, Transport Canada and the Rubber Association of Canada recommend that you install winter tires in sets of four.

See Transport Canada - Winter Tire Safety Tips

Does your ministry have information on winter driving in B.C.?

[SkunkWorks]

Here is a PDT showing what roads REQUIRE you to have winter tires (have the snowflake on the side). If you do not have these tires on them you are not legal for driving on that road. If you are involved in an accident you are 100% at fault, and will not be insured.

If anyone crashes into me in the snow and I see no snow flake I will sue you out of house and home....and be warned, if my kids are in the car the lawyer is the least of your worries. GET WINTERS ON YOUR CAR!!
If you cant afford winters YOU CANT AFFORD TO DRIVE IN VANCOUVER. Go buy a bus pass.

:suspicious:

Your insurance doesn't get 'voided' if you drive without winters. You'll just be more likely to be assessed fault and/or have an increase in premiums as a result.

Straight from their site:

Will driving without winter tires void my insurance?

No. Driving without winter tires will not void your insurance if you have a claim. It also won't mean you're automatically at-fault in a crash. However, if you get in a crash where winter tires could have helped, not having them may affect whether—or how much—you are at-fault.

[FatalCloud]

i don't know why you guys are so adamant about winter tires, i think it depends on your lifestyle too. i'm mostly just back and forth richmond-vancouver-burnaby on all seasons and i've experienced zero slippage. of course when it snows (like yesterday and today) i take the bus but for black ice and heavy rain in winter, all seasons are more than adequate.

[BoostedBB6]

:suspicious:

Your insurance doesn't get 'voided' if you drive without winters. You'll just be more likely to be assessed fault and/or have an increase in premiums as a result.

Straight from their site:

Will driving without winter tires void my insurance?

No. Driving without winter tires will not void your insurance if you have a claim. It also won't mean you're automatically at-fault in a crash. However, if you get in a crash where winter tires could have helped, not having them may affect whether—or how much—you are at-fault.


Thats true, they word is PC.

Speaking from experience (an ex who crashed 7 times in winter months). Your insurance is not void, but you will be 100% at fault, and you will be sited as driving a vehicle that is unsafe for the driving conditions. AKA, you pay out your nose, your rates go way up and you get a bucket load of tickets and points.

So yes, you are correct, you still have insurance.....but you may wish you didnt.

The total for those 7 accidents (including the points, tickets and raised rates) was over $70k.....she had to declare bankruptcy.....needless to say she was not bright....but my life is ever since she left it hahahaha

[BoostedBB6]

i don't know why you guys are so adamant about winter tires, i think it depends on your lifestyle too. i'm mostly just back and forth richmond-vancouver-burnaby on all seasons and i've experienced zero slippage. of course when it snows (like yesterday and today) i take the bus but for black ice and heavy rain in winter, all seasons are more than adequate.

You must have not read anything that was posted.
No they are not "adequate" as the compound they are made of becomes VERY hard. If you were to need to stop suddenly you would have a significant increase in the stopping distance because of this. This is why winters are made out of a soft compound that does not harden as much when its cold.

You are taking a risk every time you drive in cold temps on all seasons. Many people do, and many people will only ever run all seasons but when it comes to a situation where you need to stop quickly you will find out that hard way that winters are the educated choice when you experience colder temps.

[FatalCloud]

You must have not read anything that was posted.
No they are not "adequate" as the compound they are made of becomes VERY hard. If you were to need to stop suddenly you would have a significant increase in the stopping distance because of this. This is why winters are made out of a soft compound that does not harden as much when its cold.

You are taking a risk every time you drive in cold temps on all seasons. Many people do, and many people will only ever run all seasons but when it comes to a situation where you need to stop quickly you will find out that hard way that winters are the educated choice when you experience colder temps.

so for more than 15 years when i've been on all seasons during winter, i guess i must have been dreaming or extremely good luck that i haven't experience any slippage or accidents or even close calls? and why would i need to stop suddenly? winter driving you have to drive cautiously and give yourself time to brake so i'm not in that situation where i have to suddenly stop.

i know winter tires are definitely recommended but i don't understand ppl's mentality that if you don't have them, gtfo the road, for MY driving needs and lifestyle, all seasons are all i need.

[BoostedBB6]

so for more than 15 years when i've been on all seasons during winter, i guess i must have been dreaming or extremely good luck that i haven't experience any slippage or accidents or even close calls? and why would i need to stop suddenly? winter driving you have to drive cautiously and give yourself time to brake so i'm not in that situation where i have to suddenly stop.

i know winter tires are definitely recommended but i don't understand ppl's mentality that if you don't have them, gtfo the road, for MY driving needs and lifestyle, all seasons are all i need.

Congratulations, many people do things that are not advised to do so in this world and do it for there entire life with no problem.
Only takes one time, one mistake, one time you go a little to fast or one time that a person other than yourself does something stupid and you need that extra traction.

Do what you like, but at the end of the day you put your own life/car/money on the line.
Your driving needs are point a to point b, no different than my own. I can just appreciate my family's safety as well as the safety of others on the road.

[LuHua]

Honestly if he's smart enough to park it when it snows, and drive carefully to account for the conditions then it's fine as long as he doesn't hit anyone. Personally I just like to know that I'll be able to drive my car around in almost any condition.

The only thing is that I'll have to insist that there is no way all seasons will be able to deal with ice. You'll have all the control of a hockey puck sliding forward or spinning out. There's not even a guarantee that winters'll solve that problem, but most of them will provide a little more control than AS.

[fliptuner]

Ahhhh, the annual pissing match: to run snows vs. good enough to run A/S

Always entertaining. :woot2:

[dared3vil0]

On the flip side, way too many people are so overconfident because they have winter tires. YOU CAN'T DRIVE LIKE IT'S DRY AND 30c WHEN THE ROAD IS SNOW COVERED!

[fliptuner]

No way dude. 4x4 + snow tires automatically =

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/84/GAZ-71_tracked_vehicle.JPG

[BoostedBB6]

Ahhhh, the annual pissing match: to run snows vs. good enough to run A/S

Always entertaining. :woot2:

The funny part is that it not really a pissing contest.
Its more like;

post1: Uninformed person asks about winter tires
post2: Informed person tells them the ins and outs
post3: Cheap person tries to justify running all seasons by saying we don't get much snow, they can drive just fine etc etc

Last I checked, they are called WINTER tires, not snow tires. They are made for cold weather as all seasons can not function properly in the lower temps. The facts are there, if people want to keep telling themselves they know better than the billions invested into R&D for winter tires then so be it but WHEN you wreck, you better only take out yourself and not some poor sap in another car because you were to cheap to run the proper tires for the road conditions.

And the comment about people being over confident....thats an understatement haha. I see it all the time, guy puts snows on his car and things its like driving in the dry....slides into a curb on the first turn,

[v_tec]

and why would i need to stop suddenly? winter driving you have to drive cautiously and give yourself time to brake so i'm not in that situation where i have to suddenly stop.

:facepalm:

[meme405]

:facepalm:

Glad someone else picked up on the stupidity.

Its called an emergency stop for a reason, it can't always be avoided.

Driving defensively is great, and if you stay off the roads when it snows thats awesome too. But just because you have not had an incident does not make what you are doing intelligent by any means. It just means that you are committing a stupid act intelligently...

[twitchyzero]

meh
my mentality when it comes to winter driving in the city and the winter tire vs AS debate
if your car is that precious...don't drive it when it's below freezing and/or snow/ice on the road...which if you think about it is only 1 week a year in Vancouver.
yeah winter tires are so much safer blah blah blah...you can only do so much on your part...all it takes is one person to lose control and go sliding right into your car. I drive very defensively when there's snow but I know in the back of my mind that the chances of an accident is still significantly higher than it is on a dry surface because of other drivers that drive too fast/doesn't leave enough safety space etc

[mb_]

Anyways...

Winter tires? Managed to snag a winter car from kakucaekz's dad for less than it would cost me to get winters for my mr2 :fuckthatshit:

http://www.imgur.com/UzeXKbI.jpg
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[meme405]

meh
my mentality when it comes to winter driving and the winter tire vs AS debate
if your car is that precious...don't drive it when it's below freezing and/or snow/ice on the road.
yeah it's so much safer blah blah blah...you can only do so much on your part...all it takes is one person to lose control and go sliding into your car.

Lol. That makes zero sense, it has nothing to do with the value of your vehicle or worrying about damage to your vehicle. It has everything to do with safety on the road.

Let me get this straight though; you do not put tires appropriate to the season on your car because other people are not running them on their vehicles and you figure they are going to lose control and crash into you anyways?

By your logic everyone should just neglect maintenance on all aspects of their vehicles because inevitably your car is going to get wrecked by some retard in a heap of shit. Lets all just stop changing light bulbs, you dont need headlights chances are someones going to rear end you anyways. New brake pads? Who needs those, some guy is just going to sideswipe you regardless.

Yeah solid plan there champ...:rukidding:

[BoostedBB6]

@meme405

What you keep seeing is cheap people trying to justify there cheapness. Its that simple.

These people try to talk there way out of needing winter tires based upon there lack o knowledge and assumption that they know what they are talking about. You are wasting your time trying to convince them otherwise. Just smile and nod, and when they post there "wrecked my car" thread in a month you can just sit back and hope that they learned that being cheap is rather expensive.

[GabAlmighty]

Still doing good out here in Saskatchewan with mud terrains (would be very very nice if they were siped though), lots of people rock all seasons year round. Then again, people are actually smart enough to throw in the towel and stay home when the weather sucks enough.

[twitchyzero]

Lol. That makes zero sense, it has nothing to do with the value of your vehicle or worrying about damage to your vehicle. It has everything to do with safety on the road.

Let me get this straight though; you do not put tires appropriate to the season on your car because other people are not running them on their vehicles and you figure they are going to lose control and crash into you anyways?

By your logic everyone should just neglect maintenance on all aspects of their vehicles because inevitably your car is going to get wrecked by some retard in a heap of shit. Lets all just stop changing light bulbs, you dont need headlights chances are someones going to rear end you anyways. New brake pads? Who needs those, some guy is just going to sideswipe you regardless.

Yeah solid plan there champ...:rukidding:

i drive approriate to conditions...and drive extra cautious in poor conditions to ensure I can control my car and not slide into things.

the latter half of your argument is straw man

The facts are there, if people want to keep telling themselves they know better than the billions invested into R&D for winter tires

how many of the recommendations/articles/studies are done by manufacturers/tire shops? I'm not debating the significant benefits of winter tires but this is how informed practice works. Everyone's situation is different. I don't live out in higher elevations/rural areas where the main roads aren't getting cleared. If the roads are really icy and not being cleared I stay away from driving. Simple. It's a difficult concept for 90% of the RS members to understand because of how much they hate transit. The days that vancouver are below freezing for the AS tire to become rock hard are very limited. Of course the manufacturer is going to tell you to change even when the temps are still 10 degrees.

off topic...but do emergency vehicles even run winters?

[GabAlmighty]

Not too sure about the ambulamps but police vehicles all switch over and fire trucks are heavy enough (but when there is snow on the ground they chain up)

[radioman]

I like this video!

-4 and wet conditions. Pretty close to what we might see a lot of Vancouver. Allthough I would argue that the average temp would be above freezing. I think I read something like 3ºC Dec avg.

Honda CR-V with Yokohama Winter Tyres on a Cold Wet Road - YouTube

[Lomac]

Tire Rack Tire Test - Winter/Snow vs. All-Season vs. Summer Tires on Ice - YouTube

[Lomac]

On the flip side, way too many people are so overconfident because they have winter tires. YOU CAN'T DRIVE LIKE IT'S DRY AND 30c WHEN THE ROAD IS SNOW COVERED!

No way dude. 4x4 + snow tires automatically =

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/84/GAZ-71_tracked_vehicle.JPG

I forget which thread was talking about black ice (might have been the one in VOT) but here's a prime example.

I run a set of one of the best studless winter tires money can buy on a vehicle with four-wheel drive. We've had snow and ice up here in the Interior for the last month now and I hadn't experienced an issue yet. However, driving out of town yesterday, my rear wheels hit a patch of ice and slid out from under me.

It's also a prime example of over-confidence (note the speed I was going at the time). Mind you, about thirty seconds prior to this video starting, half a dozen vehicle had passed me at a far higher rate of speed.

BTW, you only need to watch the first 15 seconds or so. My editing software on my laptop is refusing to work so I couldn't shorten the video.

20131122 154547 E - YouTube

[meme405]

Not too sure about the ambulamps but police vehicles all switch over and fire trucks are heavy enough (but when there is snow on the ground they chain up)

All ambulances and police cars in Canada run winter tires. In fact the federal government stepped in on this and forced the Manitoba government to put winter tires on their ambulances after they said they couldn't afford it last year.

Fire trucks might be a different story as I would think the tires they run are pretty specialized.

[dared3vil0]

Fire trucks run big rig tires. They don't make a dedicated snow tire, however they do make an "on/off road all terrain" tire, which is what they run.

[fliptuner]

Black ice.....

some might say you almost got http://i.somethingawful.com/forumsystem/emoticons/emot-iceburn.gif :awwyeah:

[dared3vil0]

^
:lawl:

[mb_]

Also, for those working at dealerships, do you guys put winters on your demo cars, shuttle, etc?

[CorneringArtist]

Also, for those working at dealerships, do you guys put winters on your demo cars, shuttle, etc?

Yes to out shuttle, manager demos are at their discretion.
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[k2_alpha]

The BC ambulances run Blizzaks all year round; even when it was 40 degrees in the summer.

[BoostedBB6]

I work for Toyota.
At the dealer I am at they have the shuttle equipped with winter tires.
The demo cars all have all season tires, however they do not do any test drives in the snow/ice conditions.
The sales staff all drive vehicles with winters on them, so if there is a perspective client that wants to drive them they usually take them out in there personal cars.

[KO7]

I'm dropping my car off at VW this weekend for scheduled maintenance. Wonder if the courtesy car will have winter tires.

[BrRsn]

http://awesomegifs.com/wp-content/uploads/dead-horse.gif

[thumper]

3 hours to get to work from north burnaby to surrey because some moron in a toyota yaris decided to weave back and forth splitting both lanes going up canada way doing 5km/h... IF YOU DON'T HAVE WINTER TIRES GET OFF THE ROAD :bluemad:

[westopher]

Cab couldn't make it to my house in time to take me to the airport today, so I had to say fuck it and drive at 530am. Roads were sketchy even on my nokian winters. I'm glad I'm not driving when other people are on the road today.
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[snails]

snow tires are over rated.. stance/stretched tired on wide wheels ftw!

jk it sucks they go on today!

http://i1154.photobucket.com/albums/p531/langleychrysler/0a9a9cae-ea52-4c27-9a16-4d85082c03d9_zps89c7316f.jpg?t=1387567758

[fliptuner]

snails, I have the perfect snows for your car

[Iceman-19]

Posted this in another thread, but thought I would get maximum anger and hatred in here...snow tires, hah.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/1491784_10152115261550681_978732767_n.jpg

[supafamous]

Just came over from Victoria for the holidays and put the winters on this morning. Just in time it seems.

[Acura604]

so here we are.. while majority of us are still in Winter mode... for the general Vancouver area, aside from that dumping we had in Dec... is this all we gonna get?

Jan is pretty much done with above-normal temps...and yah, its still somewhat chilly in mornings/nights but not even at freezing point. Are we even going to get another dumping of snow by end of Feb?

Cuz once Feb is gone (and it'll be a quick 28 days)... that's it, we be slapping the rims back on ! ! !

[adambomb]

My winter mode is the same as my summer mode.
My summer mode is the same as my winter mode. :pokerface:

[westopher]

Yeah I'm keeping my wheels on in preparation for trips to whistler/baker, but as long as they aren't getting snow there is no fucking point in going. This winter is the worst I've seen in 18 years of snowboarding. If there hasn't been any snow by the end of Feb I'll throw my wheels on with my summers.

[dared3vil0]

^ I'm heading to big white in mid february because there's literally zero good snow around here... Hoping for a better February.

[Iceman-19]

WOW. Sure sad I kept my mud tires on and drove all winter so far. Its been so scary driving on the dry roads.

[meme405]

Worst snow season in a long time... I am so pissed, I was supposed to hit like 30+ days at whistler this year and I have like 7... And most of those days sucked.

There isn't even enough snow for them to get a half decent park going. At this rate, I better get my mountain bike all fixed up...

[dared3vil0]

WOW. Sure sad I kept my mud tires on and drove all winter so far. Its been so scary driving on the dry roads.

We heard you the first 6 times you said this...

[trollguy]

Worst snow season in a long time... I am so pissed, I was supposed to hit like 30+ days at whistler this year and I have like 7... And most of those days sucked.

There isn't even enough snow for them to get a half decent park going. At this rate, I better get my mountain bike all fixed up...

whistler's that bad too? dang.. thanks for the heads up. i guess we'l see what february brings..

i'm itching to put the summer wheels back on

[GabAlmighty]

Weather sure is nicer back home here, back up to Cold Lake tomorrow to drive the death trap Toyota.

[Iceman-19]

We heard you the first 6 times you said this...

Just want to rub it in for all the stupids that bought snow tires in VANCOUVER.

[FatalCloud]

^they're gonna tell you it's WINTER tires...not snow tires... :alonehappy:

[matrixfwd]

anyone itching to do snowtire changeover back to all/season's yet? I have no plans for hitting the mountains, so wonder if this weekend or next to jack up the car to do the switch.

[Acura604]

anyone itching to do snowtire changeover back to all/season's yet? I have no plans for hitting the mountains, so wonder if this weekend or next to jack up the car to do the switch.

i'm itching...BUT its still less than 7 degrees in the mornings and i'm gonna hang on till end of Feb. According to weather network, there are 'flurries' within the next 2 weeks but we all know how accurate they are.

[meme405]

We heard you the first 6 times you said this...

Just want to rub it in for all the stupids that bought snow tires in VANCOUVER.

Ignorance is bliss...

[trollguy]

Just want to rub it in for all the stupids that bought snow tires in VANCOUVER.

but your name is ice man... i thought you'd love everything to do with winter including snow tires!

[Iceman-19]

Ignorance is bliss...

I was out driving on the snow DAY we had, and I have been to cypress a few times. ZERO PROBLEMS. I was actually passing slow driving retards up to Cypress with snow tires on, and have no traction issues what so ever. Was I cornering like an F1 racer? No, but I dont do that anyways. For fun I went into an empty lot and tried my damnedest to lose control. Couldnt do it. KTHXBEI.

[Iceman-19]

but your name is ice man... i thought you'd love everything to do with winter including snow tires!

I do enjoy winter, but I have been driving in snow for 15 years without snow tires. I grew up in whistler/squamish, and we used to get real winters.

[Lomac]

I do enjoy winter, but I have been driving in snow for 15 years without snow tires. I grew up in whistler/squamish, and we used to get real winters.

Whistler/Squamish doesn't get real winters...

:fuckthatshit:

[meme405]

I was out driving on the snow DAY we had, and I have been to cypress a few times. ZERO PROBLEMS. I was actually passing slow driving retards up to Cypress with snow tires on, and have no traction issues what so ever. Was I cornering like an F1 racer? No, but I dont do that anyways. For fun I went into an empty lot and tried my damnedest to lose control. Couldnt do it. KTHXBEI.

Are you retarded or just trolling?

Mud tires are generally pretty good in snow, the same big thick grooves that help in mud help drag you along in the snow. So it is pretty obvious that you are not going to have many problems. However hit a patch of ice (no pun intended) and you are going to go sliding like a hockey puck.

The problem I have with all your posts is that most people are not running mud tires, nor are they even remotely used to running in the snow, then they read your borderline idiotic comments and believe it is okay for them to continue cheaping out and driving on A/S tires.

I do enjoy winter, but I have been driving in snow for 15 years without snow tires. I grew up in whistler/squamish, and we used to get real winters.

Experience does not fully substitute having the correct equipment. You would think someone in trades would know this...

Do what you want, nobody cares...

And for the record unless you only drive in Vancouver then anyone who put on winter tires still got good use out of them. My FX was in PG for over 3 weeks this winter, it was in williams lake for another 2 weeks, I drove the S2S 12 times, I drove the Coq another 4 times. So I got plenty of worthy winter driving on my tires...

[dared3vil0]

I was out driving on the snow DAY we had, and I have been to cypress a few times. ZERO PROBLEMS. I was actually passing slow driving retards up to Cypress with snow tires on, and have no traction issues what so ever. Was I cornering like an F1 racer? No, but I dont do that anyways. For fun I went into an empty lot and tried my damnedest to lose control. Couldnt do it. KTHXBEI.

If you're telling me you went into a snow covered parking lot and tried to lose control and you couldn't, you're full of shit. Take any vehicle on the planet, any set of tires on the planet, if you try to you can lose control in the snow.

[ScratchedMy991]

Arguing that A/S tire use is adequate in the winter if you're "careful" is as idiotic as arguing that low tread-tire use in warm weather is all right if you're "careful".

How you clowns miss the point that snow is not a prerequisite for winter tires is more confusing to me than how anyone can eat eggplant.

I think the current laws requiring winter tires/chains on certain highways are not enough. If ignorant drivers can be ticketed for using low-tread tires, the same should be done for not using winter tires.

[trollguy]

If you're telling me you went into a snow covered parking lot and tried to lose control and you couldn't, you're full of shit. Take any vehicle on the planet, any set of tires on the planet, if you try to you can lose control in the snow.

but he's the ice man. he can manipulate ice

[hud 91gt]

Haha, Iceman. Your funny. If you've ever driven on snow tires you know they are superior in cold weather. Despite the lack of snow. 15 years in Squamish, i'm sure you have driven on them… So really you are just trying to create a little controversy, and be a big tough guy on some mudders.

I bought my first set of snowies in The Pas Manitoba (Yeah, thats a real winter). The car, RWD with LSD was useless on a flat icy surface. I couldn't even move from a stand still at temps below -20 - -45 with the all seasons. (Not even kidding). I continued to use them in Thompson MB, Ottawa, then in Toronto and now back in Vancouver. When this set wears out, i'll buy another. Why? They provide awesome traction in the snow when we get it (The car is a bloody tank now), and it saves my expensive summer tires for when they are actually useful.

Your in a 4x4, and acting like a lot of rednecks thinking it'll go through anything. Oh and BTW, my 325i on studs was a hell of a lot better in the snow then my YJ on snow rated A/T's.

Do we have to have them in Vancouver? no, but it certainly doesn't mean you shouldn't have them. Any half competent driver can manage a life in Vancouver in all season's, but if you plan on having your vehicle for any extended period of time, why be a cheap ass? Get two sets and perform well in every season.

[fliptuner]

he can manipulate ice

:okay:

[mos_skeeto]

Iceman's snow tires comments are like when people get in an elevator and make a smartass comment like "haha they can't fit 20 people in here" looking at the maximum load sticker. Never stupid to go above requirements.

For anyone who knocks winter tires in Vancouver I invite them over to Kingsway and Boundary and watch a gong show of cars trying to make it up a tiny hill.

[adambomb]

For anyone who knocks winter tires in Vancouver I invite them over to Kingsway and Boundary and watch a gong show of cars trying to make it up a tiny hill.

I guess we would have to wait until the city receives freezing temperatures and snow begins to accumulate at that intersection to witness this gong show you speak of. :suspicious:


Because for the last few weeks it seems any vehicle has been able to navigate that hill with any grade of tire. Meanwhile, it technically is winter season in Vancouver. :h5:

[BrRsn]

im pulling my winter tires on the weekend

shittier MPG
wearing out faster

no thanks jeff

[Iceman-19]

If you're telling me you went into a snow covered parking lot and tried to lose control and you couldn't, you're full of shit. Take any vehicle on the planet, any set of tires on the planet, if you try to you can lose control in the snow.


Next time it snows I will take you in my truck and show you.

[Iceman-19]

Whistler/Squamish doesn't get real winters...

:fuckthatshit:

15 years ago they did!

[Iceman-19]

:fullofwin:

Jimmies = fully rustled!

[dared3vil0]

Next time it snows I will take you in my truck and show you.

I'll pass, but seriously man... Doesn't take a rocket scientist to realize snow=very little traction
very little traction=ability to lose control...