[Mike Oxbig]

I got the pack B lulz

[dbaz]

Southsiders got told to sit down for a reason, its not a standing area. They were blocking people who had paid to sit, and watch the game. If there was a standing room area only, it would be great to have them there.

[b0unce. [?]]

Related note to the Derek Boogaard death.

They arrested 2 people that wrote prescriptions and supplied him with the pain killers.

Arrests made in connection with Boogaard's death (http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=461343)

Arrests have been made in connection with the 2011 death of NHL forward Derek Boogaard.

The Manhattan U.S. Attorney's office announced Tuesday that Jordan Hart, the son of former New York Islander Gerry Hart, was arrested on Long Island on Tuesday morning by the Drug Enforcement Administration's New York task force while physician's assistant Oscar Johnson was arrested in Utah.

According to the office's release, Hart supplied Boogaard with prescription pain killers that killed him, while Johnson is accused of writing bogus Percocet prescriptions for Hart on a near-monthly basis over two years.

"As alleged, for more than two years, Oscar Johnson casually provided Percocet prescriptions to a former minor league hockey player without once treating or examining that player during that period," said Manhattan U.S. Attorney Preet Bharara in the release.

"The minor league player, Jordan Hart, then filled those prescriptions and sold the corresponding drugs to Derek Boogaard, an NHL player, feeding Boogaard's growing, debilitating addiction. Ultimately, that addiction, fueled at least in part by the drugs that Johnson illegally prescribed, and Hart peddled for cash, culminated in Boogaard's tragic overdose death. We have seen far too many tragedies from prescription drug overdoses. This Office will continue to warn people of the dangers of prescription drug abuse and investigate and prosecute those who illegally deal in pain medications wherever we find them. And finally, the sports world is not exempt from federal narcotics law and should not expect to be."

None of the allegations have been proven in court.

Boogaard was found dead in his apartment in Minneapolis on May 13, 2011 of drug and alcohol overdose, five months after he sustained a season-ending concussion with the New York Rangers.

The Hennepin County Medical Examiner announced the following week that his cause of death was an accident due to a mix of alcohol and the pain killer oxycodone.

[Hondaracer]

wanna watch canucks games on value?

pick Ice Pack A. at the $550 level per seat
I love my corner row 15s

its affordable..plus the fact that you can do 7 monthly payments. its not bad

Ice Pack A includes

Washington
Montreal
Anaheim
San Jose
Minnesota
Florida
New Jersey
Dallas

why not.

550 per seat for all 7 games? Upper bowl row 15?

[Gumby]

I'm still surprised that the "long" waiting list for season tickets disappeared as a result of last season's debacle.

[Hondaracer]

Shows the fan base true colors. Leafs will never even stutter in their season ticket waiting list.

Shitty though cause both of my connections for free tickets gave up their seasons on non-performance related issues :(

[HonestTea]

I'm still surprised that the "long" waiting list for season tickets disappeared as a result of last season's debacle.

Wow. So you're able to get full season tickets without a wait list now?

[CRS]

Wow. So you're able to get full season tickets without a wait list now?

Yes.

[murd0c]

wow that's so pathetic, the Vancouver fans are such bandwagon jumpers and it really drives me crazy...

[CRS]

wow that's so pathetic, the Vancouver fans are such bandwagon jumpers and it really drives me crazy...

Considering how much it costs to be a season ticket holder, I can understand why some would have bailed.

If we had Florida or Phoenix prices, I guarantee our waitlist would not go down.

[6o4__boi]

^ true dat, some people just aren't gonna pay the exorbitant prices to see shit on ice
maybe if they infused the current lineup with more youth instead of the stale mid thirty somethings that will be next season.

anyone know what's the deal with rogers center ice?
apparently it's free til dec 31st, 2014 if you're a rogers customer
anyone signed up yet?

edit: just found it lol
http://forums.redflagdeals.com/rogers-game-center-live-free-subscription-rogers-customers-december-31st-2014-a-1546325/4/

[PiuYi]

Shows the fan base true colors. Leafs will never even stutter in their season ticket waiting list.

Shitty though cause both of my connections for free tickets gave up their seasons on non-performance related issues :(

you're comparing a fan base of 6 million to a fan base of hardly 3 million....

[Hondaracer]

Green Bay packers have somthing like a 40 year waiting list in the smallest town in the NFL..

It says way more about the fan base than it does the population.

[murd0c]

My buddy just pointed this out to me lol

http://i.imgur.com/f5SaQQ6.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/rln1jx7.jpg

[Tim Budong]

550 per seat for all 7 games? Upper bowl row 15?

Thats right
if they are still available
its 550 upper bowl ends i think


its not bad for 11 games

[Ronin]

Made my post about the new Canucks concession menu today: Vancouver Canucks ? Rogers Arena?s New Menu (http://edeats.com/vancouver-canucks-rogers-arenas-new-menu/)

Or if you just want pics...

http://edeats.com/blogpics/canucks14-30.jpg

http://edeats.com/blogpics/canucks14-31.jpg

http://edeats.com/blogpics/canucks14-12.jpg

http://edeats.com/blogpics/canucks14-28.jpg

http://edeats.com/blogpics/canucks14-17.jpg

http://edeats.com/blogpics/canucks14-25.jpg

http://edeats.com/blogpics/canucks14-22.jpg

http://edeats.com/blogpics/canucks14-10.jpg

http://edeats.com/blogpics/canucks14-6.jpg

[Mike Oxbig]

What are the price for those food especially the lobster roll and smokie poutine

[b0unce. [?]]

why are they wearing just hard hits INSIDE lol

[Gumby]

;8527503']why are they wearing just hard hits INSIDE lol
I thought about that too, but maybe they came from an area that is still under construction.

[Hondaracer]

perogie dogs look pretty killer

[Gumby]

The unfortunate thing is that during real events, the food is not going to look like that. :(

Edit: Hopefully the quality is maintained though.

[Ronin]

Most of Rogers is under construction and we were given a tour of the new facilities

[Mike Oxbig]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BxNNvpPIIAM3z2d.jpg:large

#NHL15 Launch with Eddie Lack - YouTube

[Jmac]

perogie dogs look pretty killer
That's definitely what I'm having tonight. Looks delicious

[7seven]

Report: HBO has ?walked? from ?24/7? partnership with NHL | ProHockeyTalk (http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2014/09/11/report-hbo-has-walked-from-247-partnership-with-nhl/)

Well this sucks, HBO has walked away from their partnership with the NHL to make the 24/7 series. TSN tried a similar series with the Oilers, but that was just beyond horrible with just brutal production value, editing, filming, etc... HBO does these sports series the best with NFL's Hard Knocks and 24/7 for Boxing.

[6o4__boi]

lol some rule changes for next season...no more spin-o-ramas!


NEW YORK -- The National Hockey League announced today a series of rules changes for the 2014-15 season, following approval earlier in the summer by the League's Board of Governors and the National Hockey League Players' Association:

Rule 1.8 – Rink - Goalkeeper's Restricted Area

The trapezoid will be expanded by two feet from the goal post on both sides of the net.

Rule 23 – Game Misconduct Penalties

A new Game Misconduct category will be created. Clipping, charging, elbowing, interference, kneeing, head-butting and butt-ending move from the general category into the same category as boarding and checking from behind ("Physical Fouls"), whereby a player who incurs two such game misconducts in this category would now be automatically suspended for one game.

Rule 24 – Penalty Shot

The 'Spin-O-Rama' move, as described in Section 24.2 of the 2013-14 NHL Rule Book, will no longer be permitted either in Penalty Shot situations or in the Shootout.

Rule 38 – Video Goal Judge

Video review will be expanded in the following areas:

* Rule 38.4 (viii) has been modified to allow broader discretion to Hockey Operations to assist the referees in determining the legitimacy of all potential goals (e.g., to ensure they are "good hockey goals"). The revised Rule will allow Hockey Operations to correct a broader array of situations where video review clearly establishes that a "goal" or "no goal" call on the ice has been made in error. The new expanded rule will also allow Hockey Operations to provide guidance to referees on goal and potential goal plays where the referee has blown his whistle (or intended to blow his whistle) after having lost sight of the puck.

* In reviewing "Kicked in Goals," Hockey Operations will require more demonstrable video evidence of a "distinct kicking motion" in order to overrule a "goal" call on the ice, or to uphold a "no goal" call on the ice.

Rule 57 – Tripping

The rule relating to "Tripping" will be revised to specifically provide that a two minute minor penalty will be assessed when a defending player "dives" and trips an attacking player with his body/arm/shoulder, regardless of whether the defending player is able to make initial contact with the puck.

But, in situations where a penalty shot might otherwise be appropriate, if the defending player "dives" and touches the puck first (before the trip), no penalty shot will be awarded. (In such cases, the resulting penalty will be limited to a two-minute minor penalty for tripping.)

Rule 64 – Diving / Embellishment

The supplementary discipline penalties associated with Rule 64.3 (Diving/Embellishment) will be revised to bring attention to and more seriously penalize players (and teams) who repeatedly dive and embellish in an attempt to draw penalties. Fines will be assessed to players and head coaches on a graduated scale outlined below.

Incident # Player Fine(s) Head Coach Fine(s)
1 Warning N/A
2 $2,000 N/A
3 $3,000 N/A
4 $4,000 $2,000
5 $5,000 $3,000
6 $5,000 $4,000
7 $5,000 $5,000
8 $5,000 $5,000
Rule 76 – Face-offs

To curb delay tactics on face-offs after icing infractions, in situations where the defending team is guilty of a face-off violation, following an icing, the defending player who is initially lined up for the face-off will be given a warning, but will be required to remain in the circle to take the face-off. A second face-off violation by the defending team in such situation will result in a two minute minor bench penalty.

Rule 84 – Overtime

* Teams will switch ends prior to the start of overtime in the regular season.

* The entire ice surface will undergo a "dry scrape" prior to the start of overtime in the regular season.

* The procedure requiring the head coach to submit a list of the first three shooters in the shoot-out has been eliminated.

Rule 85 – Puck Out of Bounds

There have been further rule changes made relating to face-off location to avoid penalizing teams for plays intended to create bona fide scoring opportunities. Specifically, the following are "categories of plays" where face-offs will remain in the attacking zone despite the fact that the attacking team was technically responsible for the stoppage in play: Shots at the net by a player on the attacking team where: (i) the shot breaks the glass; (ii) the shot goes off the side of the net and deflects out of play; (iii) the shot goes off the dasher boards or glass and deflects out of play; (iv) the shot is tipped or deflected out of play by a teammate; and (v) the shot becomes wedged in or on the exterior of the goal net.

In addition, the following rule change will be enacted for the 2014 preseason and may be continued for the 2014/15 regular season if approved by the League and the NHLPA.

Rule 1.9 – Rink – Face-off Spots and Circles – Ice Markings/Hash Marks

The hash marks at the end zone circles will be moved from three feet apart to five feet, seven inches apart (international markings).

[Ronin]

BOOOOOOOOO

That means we're going to get some bullshit Canadian production version that will look like high school kids made it. C'mon...no way Rogers will match HBO's production value.

I was always more excited to watch 24/7 than the actual Winter Classic.

[7seven]

BOOOOOOOOO

That means we're going to get some bullshit Canadian production version that will look like high school kids made it. C'mon...no way Rogers will match HBO's production value.

I was always more excited to watch 24/7 than the actual Winter Classic.

Yup same here and this year should have been awesome featuring Patty Kane and Ovie. Last years was kind of boring though, no real fun personalities on the Leafs or the Redwings.

[highfive]

Bob McKenzie ‏@TSNBobMcKenzie 1m

VAN's 2014 1st rounder (24th overall) Jared McCann will not participate in Penticton rookie tourney. Sidelinedwith mononucleosis.

hahaha wtf? First Cassels and now McCann?

[6o4__boi]

inb4 it is what it is with McCann not participating

[murd0c]

team love? lol

[Jmac]

No suspensions and only wrist slaps for diving = lame

[highfive]

team love? lol

Working on team chemistry. lol

Benning's Depth-Chart Wall 09/11/14 [HD] - YouTube

Pretty cool how Benning has ratings next to the players name.

[CPE]

I think its just the year they were born in

[jeedee]

I think its just the year they were born in

at first i was like :suspicious:

Benning plays NHL PS4 errrr

[AzNightmare]

Working on team chemistry. lol

Benning's Depth-Chart Wall 09/11/14 [HD] - YouTube (http://youtu.be/SG16Bh_6P9A)

Pretty cool how Benning has ratings next to the players name.

lol. Canucks power ratings are a secret.
:troll:


Edit: nvm, those are just birth years, not EA NHL Power ratings :okay:

[Jmac]

First screen shows Pittsburgh ... Which should've been a dead give away that it's not ratings

[slicrick]

the video is kind of choppy but what a goal by Gaudreau in the young stars game

Johnny Gaudreau goes backhand shelf at 2014 Young Stars Classic - YouTube

[flawless]

Gaudreau has sick skills.

[Shark Tank]

REPORT: Demand for Canucks tickets is way down!

Demand for Canucks tickets is way down: broker | News1130 (http://www.news1130.com/2014/09/12/demand-for-canucks-tickets-is-way-down-ticket-broker/)

INB4 ---> $30 tickets coming soon...

http://i.imgur.com/7ZK3Mg4.jpg

[Ch28]

Broker = scalper

Hope he loses money

[Mike Oxbig]

Lol Florida gonna be moved for sure. Hello Quebec City... maybe thats why they have been selecting QMJHL players lately

[Tegra_Devil]

Gaudreau has sick skills.

Johnny hockey has the slickest goal so far at the tourney. He has been playing really well. Valk stepped up with the Hattie last night, but Edmonton looked pretty dominant for the first 2 periods and then in OT. Darnell nurse is a man among boys out there

[Ronin]

Go snipe some scalper tickets. Miss 10 minutes of the 1st and you can find lower bowl for like $30 on the street outside.

[Mike Oxbig]

^ the best part of going to a game is going there early exploring the arena, watching players warm up, the anthem and the first puck drop. Anything else is just hockey... Vancouver hockey. Once in a while you'll hear Ooo and ahhhh when Sedins cycling (best passing skill ull ever see). Other than that, im just there to watch other teams star players.

[winson604]

Totally agree that the demand is down. I've been a half season ticket holder for 8 years or so now and every year I pick a few games I want to go to and sell the rest for Ticket Master Face or lower to recoup my money + interest and in the odd occasion maybe some profit to cover a game or 2. Making money is the least of my interest, I just want to go to a few games and break even on the rest. The first 6 years, tickets were easy to sell and at this point in the year I would have sold them all already.

Last year I definite saw a decline. I still managed to sell them all in September but it took more work and was the first time I would constantly see people selling for cost on Craigslist etc throughout the year.

Forward to this year, 11 game ice packs available even up until this moment. These icepacks had wait lists in years past. Scan Craigslist and even Revscene Classifieds and everyone is selling for cost. Not even Ticket Master cost, but their cost just to break even vs being greedy and lose money. Times a changing, we'll see how this season turns out.

[m3thods]

I hope Gaudreau can translate that into the real NHL (not a Flames fan). It's not too often you see skill like that from a guy that small. Judging by his performances among his age group he's clearly got NHL talent. Take into account his WHC performance, and one might think he can hang with the big boys.

But just looking at his size stats makes me so scared for him. If PK ever lined him up the way he lined up Marchand Gaudreau might actually explode. I consider the Nug small and this guy is even smaller.

[Tegra_Devil]

Bennett and gaudreau with a goal and assist tonight. Unfortunately too many penalties...

[Tegra_Devil]

Hunter Smith Huge Hit on Kale Kessy - 2014 Young Stars - YouTube

[cdizzle_996]

Rypien like upper cuts

Klarc Wilson vs Connor Boland Sep 12, 2014 - YouTube

[Jmac]

Kessy is Eager 2.0

[Jmac]

Shinkaruk!

[Tegra_Devil]

Good game today!

[Tegra_Devil]

Sparks vs Orca Pups tomorrow. Gonna be a hard fought game!

[604778]

https://twitter.com/ochocinco/status/511563468214784000

[Hondaracer]

Can barely suit up for a CFL team..chara and lucic be like, who?

[Ronin]

Yeah, Chad, you'd get your ass handed to you by either. Can he even stand on skates let alone fight?

[Gumby]

Yeah, Chad, you'd get your ass handed to you by either. Can he even stand on skates let alone fight?
Chad can headbutt, but that would get him suspended in the NHL... :troll:

[Ronin]

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-puck-daddy/nhl-moves--24-7--franchise-to-epix-for-two-outdoor-game-series--report-160028230.html

24/7 moves to some network no one has ever heard of.

And that’s of course why EPIX is willing to ante up for the NHL. Burnside writes that EPIX is available to 50 million subscribers. It’s still fighting for carriage deals – AT&T U-verse recently added it – and having a property like the NHL is important. Hockey fans are activists. If we want to see “EPIX Twenty-Faux/Seven” and don’t get the network, then we’re going to (announcer voice) “call our local cable provider” and ask for it.

Fuck off...are you kidding me? It's 2014. If something isn't on TV, you torrent that shit or wait for Netflix. "Ask your local cable provider" is something that only baby boomers might do. Get with the times, you dorks. Just give a production company $500k and then put that shit ON YOUTUBE.

[Majestic12]

Bush league elbow on Gaudreau by Corrado

https://vine.co/v/OaYwxTzJ0uz

[68style]

Well... in Corrado's defense, on a normal height player that would just be a chest shot pushing him back into the boards haha

[Tegra_Devil]

I wouldn't call that game a spanking, definately more of a bludgeoning.

[murd0c]

I wouldn't call that game a spanking, definately more of a bludgeoning.

The Flames have been at the bottom of the league for so many years they really should have better prospects then the Canucks ;)

[Tegra_Devil]

The Flames have been at the bottom of the league for so many years they really should have better prospects then the Canucks ;)

my thoughts exactly. so with the canucks(NHL) being projected as a mediocre team for the next few seasons, you would hope they would have some quality prospect pools which they dont. so it looks to be mediocrity for a while until your playoff(contender) ready 5+ years down the road. your just hitting were calgary was 9 years ago. Dont get me wrong, i am not calling calgary a contender, i still think we have a couple years till we can actually be a threat for a cup(baring a cinderalla run). Though the canucks are trying to pull a 2005-2006 calgary by putting in pieces that they think they can improve them, but will most likely keep them average. The longer they keep trading for cog pieces, and not draft pics, the more years they will be out of the stanley cup picture. It took calgary 8 years to realize this....i hope it doesnt take the canucks that long

[murd0c]

the last couple of years they have stocked some really nice prospects but the previous 5 years of nothing doesn't help much. That being said they don't have many roster spots for rookies which hopefully will allow them to develop but we need to start tossing some young kids into the lineup to get some good experience.

[highfive]

my thoughts exactly. so with the canucks(NHL) being projected as a mediocre team for the next few seasons, you would hope they would have some quality prospect pools which they dont. so it looks to be mediocrity for a while until your playoff(contender) ready 5+ years down the road. your just hitting were calgary was 9 years ago. Dont get me wrong, i am not calling calgary a contender, i still think we have a couple years till we can actually be a threat for a cup(baring a cinderalla run). Though the canucks are trying to pull a 2005-2006 calgary by putting in pieces that they think they can improve them, but will most likely keep them average. The longer they keep trading for cog pieces, and not draft pics, the more years they will be out of the stanley cup picture. It took calgary 8 years to realize this....i hope it doesnt take the canucks that long

But trading away core players for draft picks doesn't always work. Look at Edmonton or Buffalo...hell even Florida.

For the team to stay competitive, you need your core players, your leaders, and you have to have everyone to buy into the team. Not be like we're not making the playoffs anyways, lets plan our trip to Vegas.

Look at teams like Detroit or San Jose, they have aging core players (Zetterberg, Datsyuk, Kronwall / Thorton/ Marleau / Boyle (gone now). They retooled the team with Nyquist, Tartar, Hertl, Couture.

[Tegra_Devil]

I dont think vancouver should get rid of most of their core, yes there are a few that probably should go. But they are trading away picks and players and getting average players and worst pics.

San jose, won the lottery on Hertl, but yes, the rest were good pics.

Vancouver is not going to have a competitive cupboard, with a bunch of 5 round pics. I am not too sure where they stand in the next couple years in picks, but you need to get a couple 1st rounders in a draft year or a few 2nd rounders if possible..but they seem to have an influx of 4th and 5thers.

And from watching the games, I would say Bo and Hunter are still at least another year from being NHL ready, they were pretty invisible during the tourny. Hunter was the better of the 2 though, and their best player for the prospect canucks was curtis valk, and he isnt even drafted or signed to the canucks

Vancouvers prospect teams were pretty man handed by all three of the teams at the tourney. They just didnt seem to have the skill to match the oilers or jets speed, and certainly didnt have enough to match the flames size and speed.

http://i59.tinypic.com/zme4wp.jpg

[Jmac]

Bush league elbow on Gaudreau by Corrado

https://vine.co/v/OaYwxTzJ0uz
If that's the worst thing that happens to Gaudreau in his NHL career, he'll be a lucky guy. Good thing he didn't play in the NHL prior to 2011 ...

[Mike Oxbig]

As much as the canuck suck trying to win the lottery... winnipeg, edmonton, ottawa, new jersey, calgary are still worst than Vancouver on paper :lol

[Tegra_Devil]

As much as the canuck suck trying to win the lottery... winnipeg, edmonton, ottawa, new jersey, calgary are still worst than Vancouver on paper :lol

paper isnt gonna help u compete this year, but u can use it to write golf scores down

[Tegra_Devil]

anyways, on a different topic, whats everyones views on analytics that is taking the nhl by storm?

do you think that it is useful as it is in MLB?

[Grandmaster TSE]

it will be in a few years

there isn't as much things quantitative in the NHL compared to the MLB. But given time they will find a way to weigh or scale and it should become a common practice with most teams

[Jmac]

The advanced stats aren't very advanced. Neither Corsi nor Fenwick really say much.

[Liquid_o2]

A lot of these "analytics" seem to be basic stats plugged into an excel sheet and turned into a graph. Maybe I should get hired by the Canucks since I can do basic excel modelling.

I think there is some value, but MLSE is making way too big of a deal over this, most likely due to the fact that they are grasping at straws by this point.

[UFO]

One of the things i read for hockey analytics says that the "better" hockey team wins a hockey game 23% of the time, the remaining 77% is up to chance and all the other variables. David Booth was and is a strong possession player and play driver, but we all know how that story plays out.

So yes advanced stats currently don't say a whole lot. They should be part of the equation for sure but should not be leaned on as THE driving force behind personel decisions, with what we currently know anyways

[Tegra_Devil]

i personally...and this is a personal opinion, dont think analytics works in hockey as it would in MLB. I dont view baseball as a sport that involves a lot of character or push. they can analyze hitting, pitching, steals all that shit. but besides that, i dont believe it requires much heart or character.

There are too many variables in hockey to analyze a player strickly on their stats, there is so much push/pain/heart behind a hockey player, injuries on hits, plays at different transitional speeds, positioning etc. you cant possible believe you can calculate the best possible collection with all these variables.

MLB, you run in a designated line, you stop, continue to a new position. there isnt many variables compared to other sports.

I am not entirely sure how analytics works with NFL and NBA, but i could see NHL and NFL being so near impossible to use analytics to provide a winning formula

[PiuYi]

Though the canucks are trying to pull a 2005-2006 calgary by putting in pieces that they think they can improve them, but will most likely keep them average. The longer they keep trading for cog pieces, and not draft pics, the more years they will be out of the stanley cup picture. It took calgary 8 years to realize this....i hope it doesnt take the canucks that long

this is why i was (and still am) so frustrated with the ryan miller deal, fck
lack's not an elite goalie but he could very well be one in a year or 2, let him play and get experience while at the same time side-betting jacob markstrom... lack's already had good mentorship from luu who he keeps in close contact with

instead we locked up a 34yr old for 3 years and what, 6m a year? :failed:

[Mike Oxbig]

Shoulda let lack gain some losing experience while we tank for mcdavid/echiel and trade our core players excluding sedins/hamhuis for prospects who they can learn from

[Jmac]

this is why i was (and still am) so frustrated with the ryan miller deal, fck
lack's not an elite goalie but he could very well be one in a year or 2, let him play and get experience while at the same time side-betting jacob markstrom... lack's already had good mentorship from luu who he keeps in close contact with

instead we locked up a 34yr old for 3 years and what, 6m a year? :failed:
So go with a tandem of Lack and Markstrom that was absolutely awful down the stretch last season and resulted in Lack staying up all night arguing with trolls on Twitter?

Sweet, sounds like a great way to run a team ...

[PiuYi]

you're right, we should sign miller and re-do the whole schneider/luongo fiasco again cuz it was so fun the first time around.... nevermind no goalie will want to play in vancouver for the next decade, but at least we'll get a 9th overall pick out of it right?

[Jmac]

you're right, we should sign miller and re-do the whole schneider/luongo fiasco again cuz it was so fun the first time around.... nevermind no goalie will want to play in vancouver for the next decade, but at least we'll get a 9th overall pick out of it right?
Yeah, only got us to game 7 of the Stanley Cup Finals and 2 Presidents Trophies. The horror ...

First, Miller has a limited NTC (compared to the full NTC Luongo had save for the two "trade windows") ... If Lack surpasses him, Miller can't just outright refuse a trade. He has to submit a list of teams.

Second, Miller doesn't have a decade-long contract saddled by new penalties introduced after signing it, making it practically untradeable.

Third, ownership didn't want to trade Luongo. I doubt they have any such attachment to Miller.

Fourth, Lack is not Schneider.

[LUUUUUUUU]

https://soundcloud.com/993thefox/the-jeff-oneil-show-vs-canucks-d-man-kevin-bieksa

[jeedee]

anyways, on a different topic, whats everyones views on analytics that is taking the nhl by storm?

do you think that it is useful as it is in MLB?

ironic a post like this is coming from a Flames fan whose team has been irrelevant since 2004 :lawl:

[AzNightmare]

i personally...and this is a personal opinion, dont think analytics works in hockey as it would in MLB. I dont view baseball as a sport that involves a lot of character or push. they can analyze hitting, pitching, steals all that shit. but besides that, i dont believe it requires much heart or character.

There are too many variables in hockey to analyze a player strickly on their stats, there is so much push/pain/heart behind a hockey player, injuries on hits, plays at different transitional speeds, positioning etc. you cant possible believe you can calculate the best possible collection with all these variables.

MLB, you run in a designated line, you stop, continue to a new position. there isnt many variables compared to other sports.

I am not entirely sure how analytics works with NFL and NBA, but i could see NHL and NFL being so near impossible to use analytics to provide a winning formula

I would think something like "moneyball" would only apply for hockey shootouts. :lol

In a way, every pitch is like a shootout.

As you said, there's way too many variables in the other sports to compare it like baseball.
Relatively, the interaction between the two opponents in baseball is very minimal.

[Jmac]

ironic a post like this is coming from a Flames fan whose team has been irrelevant since 2004 :lawl:
And before that, they had been irrelevant since 1989.

Seriously, how do you go 25 years and only advance past the first round ONCE?

[UFO]

Shoulda let lack gain some losing experience while we tank for mcdavid/echiel and trade our core players excluding sedins/hamhuis for prospects who they can learn from

Right because great players like the Sedins love to play every game in which they may have only a chance to win. Lack got plenty of losing experience last year. If the young players all know how to lose, who are they going to learn from on how to win? See Edmonton

this is why i was (and still am) so frustrated with the ryan miller deal, fck
lack's not an elite goalie but he could very well be one in a year or 2, let him play and get experience while at the same time side-betting jacob markstrom... lack's already had good mentorship from luu who he keeps in close contact with

instead we locked up a 34yr old for 3 years and what, 6m a year? :failed:

you're right, we should sign miller and re-do the whole schneider/luongo fiasco again cuz it was so fun the first time around.... nevermind no goalie will want to play in vancouver for the next decade, but at least we'll get a 9th overall pick out of it right?

Lu and Miller's situations are in no way similar. Lu still has 7 years left on his contract, the major issue with that cap hit moving forward, which really isn't that big a deal in several seasons anyways. Lu wouldn't have had to be traded if he was managed properly last season. But then again no guarantee he would have even reported to training camp for this season as a Canuck without the lure of showcasing for the Olympics.

Miller signed a 3 year deal, nothing saying you can't move him after 1 or 2 years at the deadline to a contender needing goaltending help if/when Lack is ready and whoever the new backup will be is also ready. As mentioned previous Miller has a much more flexible NTC. And Miller would be worth at least a mid-round draft pick or two as well, if not more.

[Tegra_Devil]

And before that, they had been irrelevant since 1989.

Seriously, how do you go 25 years and only advance past the first round ONCE?

and the canucks have been irrelevant with no stanley cup..........forever..

those participation ribbons must be cool though. dont listen to what your parents tell you....they arent special 'try hard' ribbons.



let me put this into perspective for you, since you dont seem overly knowledgeable:

Stanley cup finals appearances as the Calgary Flames: 3 Finals appearances, 1 stanley cup

Stanley cup finals appearance as the Vancouver Canucks: 3 Finals appearances, 0 stanley cups

.....so let me break this down The Calgary Flames have be a more successful franchise since they were put together in 1980, than the canucks have been since 1970. you have had an extra 10 years in the league, and youre still not up to par. Welcome to the big leagues though




/next

[murd0c]

and the canucks have been irrelevant with no stanley cup..........forever..

those participation ribbons must be cool though. dont listen to what your parents tell you....they arent special 'try hard' ribbons.

It's funny how you are talking smack now when the Flames do decent in the young starts tournament and then you disappear once the regular season starts :whistle:


:hotbaby:

[Tegra_Devil]

It's funny how you are talking smack now when the Flames do decent in the young starts tournament and then you disappear once the regular season starts :whistle:


:hotbaby:

I never disappear during the regular season. There was no need to put you in your place last season. you were well aware your werent on your high horse. and plus you guys were having a civil war last season. I just grabbed the popcorn and watched as you ate each other alive :hotbaby:

[meme405]

I miss Louu.

That is all.

[jeedee]

let me put this into perspective for you, since you dont seem overly knowledgeable:

Stanley cup finals appearances as the Calgary Flames: 3 Finals appearances, 1 stanley cup

Stanley cup finals appearance as the Vancouver Canucks: 3 Finals appearances, 0 stanley cups

.....so let me break this down The Calgary Flames have be a more successful franchise since they were put together in 1980, than the canucks have been since 1970. you have had an extra 10 years in the league, and youre still not up to par. Welcome to the big leagues though

using the Stanley Cup won argument from DECADES ago is hilarious as the Leafs and their 1967 championship :lawl:

but hey, you're forgetting the Canucks have technically won a cup....as the Millionaires that is :troll:

$500 or an avatar bet (for the year) that the Canucks finish higher in the standings than the Flames this season? :)

[Spoon]

Why bother posting in a Canucks thread if you're not a fan of the team. You're like that girl with oversized implants screaming at people for looking at her tits. :drunk:

[quasi]

Stop the drama, I think we can all agree both teams are no where near where they want to be. I also think we can agree the flames are worse, we'll just leave it at that and move along. :)

[Bouncing Bettys]

Generally I hate buzz words, especially in sports. Clearly the way things were being run in Toronto wasn't working. Watching the team repel huge amounts of shots each night was nerveracking and frustrating to watch. Shannahan is moving the Leafs into the 21st century with all the analytics guys and scouts he's acquired and its about time. It will be interesting to see if Carlyle and Nonis are able to adjust. I don't see Carlyle lasting the season but I could be wrong. With all the 1 year contracts, the team is either well poised to have guys earn a bigger contract, or to have a fire-sale and get McDavid.

[Tegra_Devil]

Why bother posting in a Canucks thread if you're not a fan of the team. You're like that girl with oversized implants screaming at people for looking at her tits. :drunk:

Learn to read the title of the thread noob :whistle:


$500 or an avatar bet (for the year) that the Canucks finish higher in the standings than the Flames this season?

what split are you looking for..how much difference in points, etc? if we put point differential in than im willing to go say $1000, sound good with u?

[Hondaracer]

Ohhh lol...pretty fair bet id say

[Mike Oxbig]

Why cant the canucks ever do something like this? Instead they spend time on charity

Season Ticket Delivery 2014 - YouTube

[6o4__boi]

Why cant the canucks ever do something like this? Instead they spend time on charity

Season Ticket Delivery 2014 - YouTube (http://youtu.be/7kPy92LkUmo)


lolwut...not sure if sarcasm or actually legit...


so you'd prefer the Canucks players do all this pointless shit for the lulz instead of actually making a difference in the community...?

did u mean something like "why cant the canucks ever do something ilke this?" which would be nice if they did...but not at the expense of charity lol

[bobbinka]

i wish we had ice girls :(

[Spoon]

i wish we had ice girls :(

http://cdn.nhl.com/canucks/images/upload/2009/08/iceteam_b.jpg

girls. and boys. :troll:

[Gumby]

http://cdn.nhl.com/canucks/images/upload/2009/08/iceteam_b.jpg

girls. and boys. :troll:
I have seen pictures of a new potential ice team uniform for the girls from an inside source from the summer. Assuming they end up using them, we shouldn't be disappointed. ;)

[Jmac]

and the canucks have been irrelevant with no stanley cup..........forever..

those participation ribbons must be cool though. dont listen to what your parents tell you....they arent special 'try hard' ribbons.



let me put this into perspective for you, since you dont seem overly knowledgeable:

Stanley cup finals appearances as the Calgary Flames: 3 Finals appearances, 1 stanley cup

Stanley cup finals appearance as the Vancouver Canucks: 3 Finals appearances, 0 stanley cups

.....so let me break this down The Calgary Flames have be a more successful franchise since they were put together in 1980, than the canucks have been since 1970. you have had an extra 10 years in the league, and youre still not up to par. Welcome to the big leagues though




/next
So your point is that the Flames have been more successful as a franchise because of what they did in the 1980s?

I sure hope you were born in the 70s or earlier so you at least had a chance to enjoy it because there hasn't been anything to enjoy since then except a single Cinderella run 10 years ago.

I'll take my (for the most part) annually competitive team, even if they come up a little short of the ultimate goal, than a team that does something of significance every 10-15 years surrounded by complete ineptitude ... clinging to a single Stanley Cup victory 25 years ago.

/next

[Majestic12]

So you're happy being the bridesmaid over and over again, but never being the bride? I'll take winning the prize once any day instead of clinging to division or conference banners, which in the end, mean nothing.

[jeedee]

if we put point differential in than im willing to go say $1000, sound good with u?

Deal.

Higher number of points in the standings = winning team (just to be clear)

[Tegra_Devil]

Deal.

Higher number of points in the standings = winning team (just to be clear)

Pm'd ya for details :woot2:

[RRxtar]

i would much rather be a fan of a winning team that goes out and has a good chance to win every time but not quite have the luck and timing to win the cup.... over a team that has been mired in mediocrity its whole existence, with nothing to believe in for the last decade, but managed to win a cup 25 years ago. calgary has only been out of the first round once since they won the cup and more often than not misses the playoffs. who cares if you won a cup a generation ago if you're literally garbage every year since.

calgary is as bad (actually much worse since it has been so long) than carolina or tampa bay.

perennial competitor > one and done luck run

im not saying the canucks have the greatest track record, but my god is calgary a losing organization.

[murd0c]

Deal.

Higher number of points in the standings = winning team (just to be clear)

You still owe me $20 you prick lol

[Majestic12]

Ok, so if you want to take cup wins out of the equation, fine.

Take series wins out of it then. Because I can just as easily argue that Calgary didn't have the "luck and timing" to take it out of the first round in 1990, or in 2006 despite having some really strong teams, just as Vancouver didn't have the luck or timing to close the deal in 1994 or 2011.

If the Flames are such a poor organization, the Canucks are even worse. Calgary holds 123-87-33 against Vancouver all-time. Source (http://www.hockey-reference.com/teams/CGY/head2head.html)

And independently, Calgary holds a 1491-1279-379 record, well over .500, for a win-loss differential of 212. Vancouver holds a 1415-1504-391 record, win-loss differential of -89.

Vancouver would have to win 301 more games to match Calgary's all-time win number to date. They'd have to win every single game for almost the next four seasons. And that's despite the Canucks being in the league for what, ten more years?

Yes, Flames suck right now, yes they've sucked for a few years now, and many years before too. But hey, the Canucks are far, far, far from a shining beacon of success. If Calgary is "a losing organization", Vancouver is "THE losing organization".

[jeedee]

You still owe me $20 you prick lol

for what :suspicious:

[CRS]

:lol

Better PM a mod the details if you guys want to ensure members have avatar changes or if you want a referee/mediator.

[Tegra_Devil]

Ok, so if you want to take cup wins out of the equation, fine.

Take series wins out of it then. Because I can just as easily argue that Calgary didn't have the "luck and timing" to take it out of the first round in 1990, or in 2006 despite having some really strong teams, just as Vancouver didn't have the luck or timing to close the deal in 1994 or 2011.

If the Flames are such a poor organization, the Canucks are even worse. Calgary holds 123-87-33 against Vancouver all-time. Source (http://www.hockey-reference.com/teams/CGY/head2head.html)

And independently, Calgary holds a 1491-1279-379 record, well over .500, for a win-loss differential of 212. Vancouver holds a 1415-1504-391 record, win-loss differential of -89.

Vancouver would have to win 301 more games to match Calgary's all-time win number to date. They'd have to win every single game for almost the next four seasons. And that's despite the Canucks being in the league for what, ten more years?

Yes, Flames suck right now, yes they've sucked for a few years now, and many years before too. But hey, the Canucks are far, far, far from a shining beacon of success. If Calgary is "a losing organization", Vancouver is "THE losing organization".


^^ what he said. I was unaware of those records:whistle:

[jeedee]

if we put point differential in than im willing to go say $1000, sound good with u?

Cmon man...don't pussy out

http://i61.tinypic.com/2qxm3pu.jpg

Anyone wanna be the middle man lol

[Tegra_Devil]

Cmon man...don't pussy out

http://i61.tinypic.com/2qxm3pu.jpg

Anyone wanna be the middle man lol


awww muffin. if you were trustworthy you probably wouldnt be a canucks fan ahahaha

I wouldnt trust any of you fappers with following through with giving me my winnings

[Mike Oxbig]

:hat:

https://img0.etsystatic.com/000/0/5693247/il_fullxfull.275099866.jpg

[Tegra_Devil]

^^ i dont get it....

[SkinnyPupp]

They are both shitty teams overall, and bitching about each other makes both fan bases look bad. Although a rivalry is always great, saying one team is better than the other, in this case, is kind of silly.

[Ch28]

:hat:

https://img0.etsystatic.com/000/0/5693247/il_fullxfull.275099866.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/qknKEYh.gif

[Jmac]

Ok, so if you want to take cup wins out of the equation, fine.

Take series wins out of it then. Because I can just as easily argue that Calgary didn't have the "luck and timing" to take it out of the first round in 1990, or in 2006 despite having some really strong teams, just as Vancouver didn't have the luck or timing to close the deal in 1994 or 2011.

If the Flames are such a poor organization, the Canucks are even worse. Calgary holds 123-87-33 against Vancouver all-time. Source (http://www.hockey-reference.com/teams/CGY/head2head.html)

And independently, Calgary holds a 1491-1279-379 record, well over .500, for a win-loss differential of 212. Vancouver holds a 1415-1504-391 record, win-loss differential of -89.

Vancouver would have to win 301 more games to match Calgary's all-time win number to date. They'd have to win every single game for almost the next four seasons. And that's despite the Canucks being in the league for what, ten more years?

Yes, Flames suck right now, yes they've sucked for a few years now, and many years before too. But hey, the Canucks are far, far, far from a shining beacon of success. If Calgary is "a losing organization", Vancouver is "THE losing organization".
And, again, I don't give a fuck that the Canucks sucked shit in the 70s and the 80s while the Flames were awesome in the 80s ... I wasn't even alive through most of that.

That was 30+ fucking years ago. It's like listening to Oilers fans and Leafs fans brag about cups they won before they were born. No one gives a shit.

Over the 5-10 years (aka recent history), the Canucks have been the FAR superior team and it's not even close.

You may find this shocking, but most people watch hockey for entertainment value, which winning plays a significant part in most markets (Toronto exempt). Why do you think ticket prices were sky-high in Vancouver when the Canucks were winning Presidents' Trophies and dropped through the floor when they sucked shit last year?

So, since this spawned from me saying the Flames have been irrelevant for the past 25 years (and jeedee saying they've been irrelevant since 2004), please explain to us how the Flames have been relevant over that time span (in other words, prove us wrong rather than just deflect it onto another target like a bitch).

Past 25 years (24 seasons)
Canucks: 16 playoff appearances (4 in past 5 seasons), advanced past the first round 9 times (2 times in past 5 seasons), 13 playoff series wins (4 in past 5 seasons), 2 Stanley Cup Finals appearances (1 in past 5 seasons), 2 Presidents' Trophies (2 in past 5 seasons), 9 Divisional Titles (4 in past 5 seasons).

Flames: 11 playoff appearances (0), advanced past the first round 1 time (0), 3 playoff series wins (0), 1 Stanley Cup Finals appearance (0), 0 Presidents' Trophies (0), 3 Divisional Titles (0).

[Tegra_Devil]

No need to get angry there buds. I can guarantee it isn't just the flames oilers and leafs saying your not a winning franchise. It's most of the league. Ya ur a tough team to play against. I'll give you that, but u are not a franchise with a championship. Ur one of those floater teams that has no finish. Yes, the flames haven't had any finish in a long time.

But ur just like 70% of the other fans out there. A greasy haired, mocha latte sipping hipster, who lets the world know how great they are but never actually accomplishing what an NHL franchise sets out to do.

It doesn't matter when cups have been won. It matters that the NHL had a storied history of great teams, teams that have made a name for themselves on Lord Stanley's Cup. And you good sir, are not one of those teams. I like to bug leaf fans, but in the end my team isn't nearly as storied as them or successful. I am a fan of my team and it's history, I am also a fan of hockey and it's history. Detroit dynasties, islander power houses, your Canucks are not in that history. Yes, your a team in the league, but so are the Florida panthers. Only true hockey fans cheer for their team as a 'Whole' not just the now. That's why Vancouver is known as a bandwagon team.

If it upsets u that I bring up the past...too bad. In your 40+ year history your team should have done something about it, but they didn't. So don't be a whiny baby lol

One day the Canucks will win a cup and u will earn ur place in history, and I guarantee that 20 years after that Stanley cup win, some
Fans are gonna be super proud of that victory and love looking at that banner hanging in the arena.

So If u don't like a passionate history, get the fuck away from hockey, u aren't a real fan.

[Teriyaki]

I vote for. Less chatter. More pictures of those Ice Girls plx.

[Not really racist!]

:facepalm:

the annual who sucks more pissing contest

http://lh4.googleusercontent.com/--FTRj_Z5B1w/UolwlntYlkI/AAAAAAAAUxg/FZy4BOpxFS8/s504/Sutter%20Unsatisfied.GIF

[AzNightmare]

Such a stupid pissing contest.
This is why I never take jabs at other teams or their fans, but only choose to support and criticize my own.

Everyone's going to have their own biased opinion on their favourite team.
And there's never going to be a clear way to determine a winner with all the different variables in defining the "better" team.
If you guys are going to bitch about it, at least break it down into categories.

[rsx]

Any thoughts on Ryan Johansen's contract? I'm due to set my keepers and I'd love to 'keep' him for the season, but how likely is it that he'll suit up come regular season?

It's either Johansen, Pominville, Schwartz, or Zuccarello...

[Ronin]

No way the Jackets let their best player walk after the best season they've ever had.

That being said, the kid isn't worth a $6.5m contract. Maybe more in the $4-4.5 range. I have a feeling an offer sheet might be on the way.

[RRxtar]

It's funny because the coach in your gif couldn't win anything in Calgary and won 2 cups in LA immediately after joining the team. Lol

[punkwax]

I love how tegra comes in before every season and rustles jimmies. Srs.

Overall, Canucks fans don't have a lot of bragging rights. Until we've won the Cup, we really can't say shit about any other team that has. The Cup is the ONLY thing that matters. In sports, no championships, no legacy/no care.

I'm as big of a Canucks fan as anyone here, but that is my opinion and I think it is also the general concensus of sports fans not completely blinded by homer goggles welded to their face.

Sure the Flames have sucked donkey balls but they also iced a formidable opponent not too long ago in the WCE era (that would have won the Cup if Cloutier weren't here!!! :rolleyes: )

Canucks sucked donkey balls pretty much after 82 until Bure showed up and we had a shot in 94. Then fucking Messier came in and I'm sure a lot of us remember those days as well.

So let's all get off our high horse and stop bitching about who's legacy is just a little better than the others because, honestly, it's a a fight very near the bottom of the roller coaster that is the NHL standings.

[Majestic12]

And, again, I don't give a fuck that the Canucks sucked shit in the 70s and the 80s while the Flames were awesome in the 80s ... I wasn't even alive through most of that.

That was 30+ fucking years ago. It's like listening to Oilers fans and Leafs fans brag about cups they won before they were born. No one gives a shit.

Over the 5-10 years (aka recent history), the Canucks have been the FAR superior team and it's not even close.

You may find this shocking, but most people watch hockey for entertainment value, which winning plays a significant part in most markets (Toronto exempt). Why do you think ticket prices were sky-high in Vancouver when the Canucks were winning Presidents' Trophies and dropped through the floor when they sucked shit last year?

So, since this spawned from me saying the Flames have been irrelevant for the past 25 years (and jeedee saying they've been irrelevant since 2004), please explain to us how the Flames have been relevant over that time span (in other words, prove us wrong rather than just deflect it onto another target like a bitch).

Past 25 years (24 seasons)
Canucks: 16 playoff appearances (4 in past 5 seasons), advanced past the first round 9 times (2 times in past 5 seasons), 13 playoff series wins (4 in past 5 seasons), 2 Stanley Cup Finals appearances (1 in past 5 seasons), 2 Presidents' Trophies (2 in past 5 seasons), 9 Divisional Titles (4 in past 5 seasons).

Flames: 11 playoff appearances (0), advanced past the first round 1 time (0), 3 playoff series wins (0), 1 Stanley Cup Finals appearance (0), 0 Presidents' Trophies (0), 3 Divisional Titles (0).

I like how you're permitted to dictate whatever criteria that is worthy of consideration. If you can't have a discussion about sports without getting angry and resorting to name-calling, then you need to A) take a step back and re-evaluate your priorities B) calm the fuck down C) grow up.

Congrats, you're better than Calgary has been in the last 5 years? Great, that's when our team was on the decline - aging Kiprusoff, aging Iggy, aging Tanguay, no good prospects, etc, and a series of poor trades like Dion Phaneuf, etc. But all throughout that time, Calgary's still had a full house at the dome (as far as I can recall), and in the past 3 years or so has fully re-stocked the prospect cabinet with some seriously good talent like Monahan, Gaudreau, and Bennett, and Gio has developed into a top 10 defender in the league.

In the same time, you've had playoff appearances, one finals appearance. Yes, Congrats. But throughout the same time, the Canucks developed a terrible rep for being a bunch of whiny, diving bitches, especially Burrows, who apparently likes eating fingers. You've gone from two good goalies, either of whom could be starters in the league, to nothing, in the last couple of years. Since the brawl last January, your team pretty much sank like a rock. You're where Calgary was five years ago. Aging superstars, still clawing away to try and sneak one last cup run through before everyone retires.

Both sides have their good and their bad... and you're not the one that gets to decide the basis for making those decisions.

[Majestic12]

It's funny because the coach in your gif couldn't win anything in Calgary and won 2 cups in LA immediately after joining the team. Lol

Not really, he only coached in Calgary for three seasons. First season we missed the playoffs. Second season was the finals run. Third season Calgary got bounced in the first round. After that he moved up to GM.


So let's all get off our high horse and stop bitching about who's legacy is just a little better than the others because, honestly, it's a a fight very near the bottom of the roller coaster that is the NHL standings.

Agreed.

[murd0c]

for what :suspicious:

Boxing bet :troll:

[Ronin]

Slap bet.

A GENTLEMAN'S AGREEMENT.

[punkwax]

Watching that Ducks video reminded me that Boudreau is the coach. I wonder how his style will rub Kes considering 17 seems to have a problem with authority.

Also heard today that Selanne apparently said he retired because of Boudreau and thinks he still has more gas in the tank..

I could see some potential fireworks down south.

[jeedee]

Boxing bet :troll:

i don't watch boxing so...........

[jeedee]

pens new 3rd jersey....filthy....

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bx5iamvCQAARG0a.jpg

[murd0c]

so classic and wicked

[mb_]

That looks pretty sweet

[6o4__boi]

Pens new alternates looks awesome...those baby blues were hideous

[m3thods]

For such an awesome colour-way, you don't see too many clones in beer leagues. That's too bad because pens colours are so nice.

[Liquid_o2]

Awesome third jersey, love it. Looks like a modernized throwback.

[Spoon]

Isn't it about the same as their old jersey circa Mario Lemieux era?
http://www.hhof.com/graphspot/one_PittsPen9092_08.jpg

[jeedee]

Isn't it about the same as their old jersey circa Mario Lemieux era?
http://www.hhof.com/graphspot/one_PittsPen9092_08.jpg

pretty much a modernized version of it, yes

like the Canucks current 'stick-in-rink' jersey which is a modernized version of the 1970 jerseys

http://cdn.nhl.com/canucks/images/upload/2010/10/Oct25110_orland1_b.jpg

[Grandmaster TSE]

No way the Jackets let their best player walk after the best season they've ever had.

That being said, the kid isn't worth a $6.5m contract. Maybe more in the $4-4.5 range. I have a feeling an offer sheet might be on the way.

from another team LOL

[hotjoint]

Love that pens jersey. I'm still looking for a Lemieux jerseu like that :thumbsup:

[winson604]

That Pens Jersey is bad ass and so much so I'm actually considering getting one.

[pure.life]

I'm a fan of the skate. Wish they brought it back

[EuterVanWasser]

From the Zack Kassian Van Sun article I had to bring this part over:

HAMMER TIME: Kevin Bieksa was on the receiving end of a hard hit from defensive partner Dan Hamhuis during battle drills Saturday.

“I think we have to patch those stop signs back on our jerseys,” Bieksa said afterwards. “I thought it was a little bit from behind, but his Mom was in the crowd, so I should have known he was going to do whatever it took to impress her.”

Read more: Kassian enjoying his fresh start with Canucks (http://www.vancouversun.com/sports/Kassian+enjoying+fresh+start+with+Canucks/10222062/story.html#ixzz3DzrB3ii7)

:lawl:

[Tegra_Devil]

What websites do you guys stream hockey from?

[Mike Oxbig]

What websites do you guys stream hockey from?

after trash talking all that crap you ask for this? :joy:

there are ones that stream 720p out there

[cdizzle_996]

What websites do you guys stream hockey from?

A true fan would def have the sportsnet west package to watch his lames lose.


EDIT: PS.. I wouldn't pay to watch the Flames play either



Hehe

[MR_BIGGS]

What websites do you guys stream hockey from?

I drafted Johnny Hockey in my draft. Will Gaudreau stick with the club this season?

[m3thods]

I drafted Johnny Hockey in my draft. Will Gaudreau stick with the club this season?

Yes.


I give him 20 games before he's injured/mired in a huge slump. But I'd bet he makes the opening-day roster.

[Tegra_Devil]

I drafted Johnny Hockey in my draft. Will Gaudreau stick with the club this season?

I dunno, its a toss up.




and fuck that, i stream everything unless its on TSN or CBC.

i use firstrow most of the time, it didnt have the split squad games for today...but either way. i just streamed them through the NHL website...surprising...

[SkinnyPupp]

Just a reminder, posting links to streams = bannable offense

[Jmac]

I assume legal streams such as from Canucks.com and the WHL (when they have free streams) are okay.

[murd0c]

I assume legal streams such as from Canucks.com and the WHL (when they have free streams) are okay.

yup, as long as it's fully legit/legal there is no issue posting those links.

[RRxtar]

just a reminder, plugging up this thread with your hockey pool = bannable offence

[kristianhay]

Not likely, but if anyone has wondered about my absence from posting, I actually work for the Canucks now so I'm trying to keep my online comments to a minimum haha. Canucks hockey (sort-of) returns tomorrow! Split squad roster for the home game should be fun to watch:

ROSTER for Canucks vs SJS at Rogers Arena

Sedin-Sedin-Vrbata

Shinkaruk-Vey-Friesen

Zalewski-Horvat-Dorsett

Kenins-Lain-Fox

Edler-Corrado

Hamhuis-Subban

Andersson-Bieksa

Lack & Cannata

[murd0c]

What do you do for the canucks? congrats on the new job!!

[kristianhay]

Thanks bud! I'm doing graphic design there, pretty rad gig especially since I'm a huge fan.

[murd0c]

nothing beats a job you enjoy especially for the Canucks!!

[SkinnyPupp]

Thanks bud! I'm doing graphic design there, pretty rad gig especially since I'm a huge fan.
Make them a new logo please!

[b0unce. [?]]

So we have an official insider? :D

[Ch28]

Not likely, but if anyone has wondered about my absence from posting, I actually work for the Canucks now so I'm trying to keep my online comments to a minimum haha. Canucks hockey (sort-of) returns tomorrow! Split squad roster for the home game should be fun to watch:

Congrats!

[kristianhay]

Haha, thanks guys I appreciate it. My lips are sealed on most things, but very cool running into guys like Linden and Smyl around the hallways. Was also in the elevator with Miller last week which was real weird/rad.

[MR_BIGGS]

just a reminder, plugging up this thread with your hockey pool = bannable offence

I haven't frequented this board in quite some time but use to be a regular poster. I was just asking if he thought Gudereau will stick with the club.

I might have missed something but what's with the hyper sensitivity? Serious question.

I won't use the argument this is also an NHL thread.....:suspicious:

[Jmac]

I haven't frequented this board in quite some time but use to be a regular poster. I was just asking if he thought Gudereau will stick with the club.

I might have missed something but what's with the hyper sensitivity? Serious question.

I won't use the argument this is also an NHL thread.....:suspicious:
I think he's referring to the "ermagawd, I'm so fucked in my pool now because *insert player in poster's pool* was just *insert dirty play* by *insert Matt Cooke or equivalent*!" posts.

No one else cares.

[highfive]

Haha, thanks guys I appreciate it. My lips are sealed on most things, but very cool running into guys like Linden and Smyl around the hallways. Was also in the elevator with Miller last week which was real weird/rad.

nice... congrats!

If I was in the elevator I would be so starstrucked that I would make it so awkward... lol

[Kilinim]

Did you have a game last night at gpf kristianhay?

[6o4__boi]

The game is on sn360 right?

Is that a subscription based channel? Couldn't see it on my list of channels.

[ForbiddenX]

Not sure if this has been posted yet but those interested in Gamecenter you can use this to get it for $75.

NHL Gamecenter $75 (or less) for full season - RedFlagDeals.com Forums (http://forums.redflagdeals.com/nhl-gamecenter-75-less-full-season-1538865/)

Essentially it's:
Installing The chrome extension Hola: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/hola-better-internet/gkojfkhlekighikafcpjkiklfbnlmeio?hl=en
Go to NHL.com
Click the hola extension and choose Russia
Sign up for gamecenter

Got it for $75 versus the $160 it's normally priced for

[spideyv2]

just a reminder, plugging up this thread with your hockey pool = bannable offence

strong this

[DontFrontOnMe]

If someone knows of a link to something that could be happening tonight, you should definitely send me a PM, as I am not home in BC. Thx!

[spoon.ek9]

Haha, thanks guys I appreciate it. My lips are sealed on most things, but very cool running into guys like Linden and Smyl around the hallways. Was also in the elevator with Miller last week which was real weird/rad.

so what you're saying is you had an awkward boner :whistle:

[XplicitLuder]

ay whos got that www thing where i can watch some hockey ;) pm me

[6o4__boi]

ugh...why the hell is it on sn360...i've got all these goddamned sn channels and theyre all useless lol

[murd0c]

I have sn360 yay :)

[6o4__boi]

what channel is it on shaw?
i remember last year it was on a channel that wasn't listed and had to manually input the channels

[murd0c]

231 for me

[murd0c]

BBC FUCK YA!!

[6o4__boi]

lame...i get the laffs vs flyers but not this game

stupid sportsnet

[murd0c]

WTF isn't anyone watching the game?

[MG1]

Haha, thanks guys I appreciate it. My lips are sealed on most things, but very cool running into guys like Linden and Smyl around the hallways. Was also in the elevator with Miller last week which was real weird/rad.

Be cool and don't drool. Now keep those lips as tight as a virgin in a convent. Don't risk losing that job, because of a post here on RS. I'm genuinely happy for you. You lucky SOB. Im so jelly.

[6o4__boi]

lol still trying to find an alternative viewing source...doesn't look like i have 360.

[XplicitLuder]

no one ? :(

nvm : found

[murd0c]

I know its the first preseason game but I think picking Vey up could be the best move of the summer!!

[fliptuner]

lol still trying to find an alternative viewing source...doesn't look like i have 360.

Try shaw 54 if u don't mind SD

[6o4__boi]

nope don't have 54 either


ehhh...ohwell lol i'll just wait til its on sn1 i guess
the quality of streams suck

[6o4__boi]

blows my mind that sn1 would rather show premier league darts

[b0unce. [?]]

http://cdn.meme.li/instances/500x/46211402.jpg

[murd0c]

blows my mind that sn1 would rather show premier league darts

call shaw and get the channel then!!

[MR_BIGGS]

On Telus game is on channel 920 SN360. I can watch these Evanka Osmak commercials all day....

Vey has some serious wheels.

[hi-revs]

Anyone know if the Canucks team store carry the old Linden skate jersey? If so, how much?

[murd0c]

call them....

Canucks Team Store - Vancouver Canucks - Shop (http://canucks.nhl.com/club/page.htm?id=40007)

[XplicitLuder]

woop woop shink!!

[XplicitLuder]

:badpokerface: reminds me of the real canucks

[murd0c]

Hunter Shinkaruk 2-1 goal vs Sharks (Sep. 23, 2014) - YouTube

[murd0c]

w00t Horvat!!

[Ikkaku]

loving the intensity right now

Subban is more solid than Corrado :badpokerface:

[korroke]

Today's game against the Sharks makes me wonder if Benning will make room with shinkaruk...

[LUUUUUUUU]

sweet... time to plan the parade boys

[fsy82]

wow..it was the first preseason game..lol..calm down guys

[LUUUUUUUU]

2-0 Sharks...
season's over boys

[murd0c]

wow..it was the first preseason game..lol..calm down guys

we finally have hockey to talk about stfu lol

[Jmac]

Hunter Shinkaruk 2-1 goal vs Sharks (Sep. 23, 2014) - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OChlWslSAxw&feature=youtu.be)
Shink has such great offensive habits. Make a play, go to the front of the net, get good body position, score. Love it. He and Vey seemed to have some good chemistry in the offensive zone.

Friesen jumped out at me as a guy who played really well, which I wasn't expecting. Throwing the body lots, good in the faceoff circle (in the few instances he was in there), making plays, and played quite well on all the lines he was on.

Dorsett's turnover resulting in the Marleau goal was something I really hope we don't see from him in the regular season. Job #1 of a 4th liner is to not get scored on. High percentage plays. Cross-ice passes in the neutral zone with a 40-goal-scorer bearing down on you is a good way to get your ass stapled to the bench. Overall, I was expecting him to be faster and more physical, so I was a little disappointed. But it's early in pre-season, so obviously nothing to be worried about yet.

Sedins and Vrbata ... Too much passing ... Not enough good opportunities. Looked pretty good together, though. Lots of offensive zone time.

Lack was solid, Cannata played a little too deep in his net. Would've liked to see him play another 6" out.

Hopefully Edler is okay.

[murd0c]

the first time with the sedins and vrbata playing together and they looked great cycling the puck, I'm so excited to see what they can do this year

[Hondaracer]

Uhhh..ok Vancouver sun..

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y136/sniperslayer/0A806F28-22A4-475B-977D-1D2419684283_zpsz0hkozht.png

[murd0c]

also in the paper lol
http://i.imgur.com/wAiuRbf.jpg

[kunoman1]

Vancouver sun being the Vancouver sun

[Gumby]

Dark guy in the middle? WTF? :lol

[xeryusx]

Someone's gonna get a slap on the wrist...

[6o4__boi]

nice to see a player with energy and enthusiasm like Shinks

waiting to see who the cuts will be today. any injury update on Edler?

[Gumby]

Jordan Staal and Derek Stepan both with significant leg injuries. Both of them play big roles on their respective teams.

[highfive]

Datsyuk out with dislocated shoulder.

Love the way Shinkauruk plays. And that grin of his... haha

TSN Radio Vancouver ‏@TSN1040 5m

MT @mattsekeres: #Leafs GM Dave Nonis tells us he offered Trevor Linden a job long ago, but Linden "couldn't take his #Canucks tatoo off."

FUCK YEAH!!!

[slicrick]

Losing Stepan is brutal for NYR.. Brassard isn't a first line center but he is probably going to have to be one till Stepan is back, with the new contract (5 years, 5M per year) he signed over the offseason he has big expectations on him this year and Stepan being injured it only going to make those expectations even bigger.

It would sure help to have Brad Richards right now as JT Miller and Dominic Moore aren't top 6 centers.. but Richards for 6.6M :fuckthatshit:

Hopefully Nash can have a bounce back this season
Expect a different Rick Nash this season for a couple of reasons, NYpost.com (http://nypost.com/2014/09/21/fitter-nash-looking-much-quicker/)

[Ronin]

FUuuuuuuccckkkk...that sucks. Dropped Stepan from my keeper team and added Brandon Saad instead. Good thing this happened on keeper deadline.

[Derek_N84]

Vancouver Sun issued an apology for the racist derp :lol

[RRxtar]

i dont know whats worse, the vancouver sun or what just popped up on my facebook

"TRENDING


P. K. Subban: Vancouver Sun apologizes to Canadiens defenseman for using offensive photo caption"

[Jmac]

i dont know whats worse, the vancouver sun or what just popped up on my facebook

"TRENDING


P. K. Subban: Vancouver Sun apologizes to Canadiens defenseman for using offensive photo caption"
Facebook: All non-white hockey players are actually P.K. Subban. :failed:

[invader]

lol they can't even get the correct player

[6o4__boi]

Zalewski and Lain sent back down along with other minors.

I was reading that article about Horvat having to spend the whole year in juniors if he gets sent down...it's a pretty retarded rule. I hope he sticks around along with Shinkaruk.
Was also read how Desjardins was saying Dane Fox's skating needs improvement lol, looks like he's Utica bound soon.

[murd0c]

yup cause Horvat is too young to play in the AHL so the Canucks might keep him up just cause he won't get any benefit playing another year in the CHL.

[dbaz]

no idea why negrin is still with the team. o wait, company employees son :whistle:

also lots of people in calgary calling for corrados head, should be interesting to see what happens

[6o4__boi]

who the fuck is negrin lol

and fuck another sn360 game -.- i should call shaw and ask about it lol but i'm assuming its extra, to the guys that have it what's your cable package?
i have basic

[murd0c]

its included in my hd package, I think you can add the channel for $2-5 a month... A lot of games are going to be on it this year so you may as well suck it up and get it.

[6o4__boi]

I called Shaw and they said it was tier 3 and an additional $17 a month
:fuckthatshit:


Guess I'll use those games as an excuse to go to the bar :lawl:

[Jmac]

no idea why negrin is still with the team. o wait, company employees son :whistle:

also lots of people in calgary calling for corrados head, should be interesting to see what happens
McGratton ends Alberts' career, Flames fans call Alberts a diver ...

Corrado elbows Gaudreau in what would never (and didn't) get a second look from Hockey Ops, Flames fans demand a suspension and vengeance ...

Sorry, but that wasn't exactly a Duncan Keith-type elbow ... Definitely a 2-minute minor, but nothing malicious. Just a player caught out of position that made a bad decision.

[Jmac]

Zalewski and Lain sent back down along with other minors.

I was reading that article about Horvat having to spend the whole year in juniors if he gets sent down...it's a pretty retarded rule. I hope he sticks around along with Shinkaruk.
Was also read how Desjardins was saying Dane Fox's skating needs improvement lol, looks like he's Utica bound soon.
How is it a retarded rule (more correctly, agreement)?

The CHL supplies the NHL with well over half of its employees and star players bring in the fans (and their money) in that league, too. Need money to operate.

The SHL and Liiga have similar agreements with the NHL as well (although theirs are a little less restrictive, requiring a one-time payment in exchange).

Fox's skating was suspect, but I'm more concerned with his defense. He looked completely lost in the defensive zone on Tuesday night. That said, I don't think anyone outside of CDC was actually expecting Fox to make the team this year. He has plenty of time to work on the deficiencies in his game and we already know he can score.

[Jmac]

who the fuck is negrin lol

and fuck another sn360 game -.- i should call shaw and ask about it lol but i'm assuming its extra, to the guys that have it what's your cable package?
i have basic
I have Shaw Basic and get SN360 ... but I'm in a different area, so maybe it's only the lower mainland that doesn't get it.

[korroke]

kassian looking like a liability out there. Lack is keeping the team in the game.

[fliptuner]

Blind dodgeball....:notbad::considered:

[fliptuner]

http://www.mascotcoalition.org/education/movies/training_day_images/denzel_intro.jpg

[Tegra_Devil]

i am here....almost missed it due to soccer woohoo!

[Tegra_Devil]

bennett looking good tonight

[murd0c]

Bennett is looking great

[murd0c]

wow I like that kid

[Jmac]

<3 Shinkaruk

[fliptuner]

Good position, good hands

[murd0c]

Calgary is going to regret not drafting him

[Tegra_Devil]

shinkaruk is doing well

i am glad with the flames performance, they were a steady threat

[Tim Budong]

Bennet looks fantastic out there

But so does Shinkaruk

Wonder if he makes the team over Bo now

[Tegra_Devil]

it was mentioned on the SN360 that gaudreau has a better chance than bennett of making the team. I am going to be quite interested to see what the team looks like after the final cuts. I honestly have no idea who will make it

[murd0c]

&#x202a;Hunter Shinkaruk 3-1 goal vs Flames (Sep. 25, 2014)&#x202c;&rlm; - YouTube

[6o4__boi]

How is it a retarded rule (more correctly, agreement)?

The CHL supplies the NHL with well over half of its employees and star players bring in the fans (and their money) in that league, too. Need money to operate.

The SHL and Liiga have similar agreements with the NHL as well (although theirs are a little less restrictive, requiring a one-time payment in exchange).

Fox's skating was suspect, but I'm more concerned with his defense. He looked completely lost in the defensive zone on Tuesday night. That said, I don't think anyone outside of CDC was actually expecting Fox to make the team this year. He has plenty of time to work on the deficiencies in his game and we already know he can score.


from a player development perspective it's useless to have him spend an entire year in junior (can''t call him up even to the minors until junior season end)...it's always bothered me seeing top prospects stuck in juniors when the next step should be the minors.
He's peaked so it's pretty shitty being stuck with players that you're clearly a cut above.
But yes, when you put in a financial/economic standpoint it's not a stupid agreement.

keep in mind i'm pretty biased, i'd hate for good prospects to waste their time twiddling their thumbs in junior when they're good enough to be in the minors.

And Fox, yeah i expected him to be meh come camp and figured he'd end up in Utica but from what i've seen...he's pretty shitty. I guess being overage in junior really makes you look good.

[Ch28]

it was mentioned on the SN360 that gaudreau has a better chance than bennett of making the team. I am going to be quite interested to see what the team looks like after the final cuts. I honestly have no idea who will make it

Gaudreau will make the team. Flames GM has already come out and said he would be extremely surprised if Bennett made the team this year.

[Tegra_Devil]

Gaudreau will make the team. Flames GM has already come out and said he would be extremely surprised if Bennett made the team this year.

ya, I heard him say that. but honestly I say they are on par with each other

[EvoFire]

Dane Fox was a bit of a disappointment considering how well he was doing, granted, overager.

There are some rumblings over at canucksarmy suggesting that sending Horvat to Europe ala Jensen. Same arguments about how its a waste of a year to have him do nothing in the juniors.

[Mike Oxbig]

Nylander probably makes the leafs before Horvat does for the canucks maybe because he played in SEL with adults

[sonick]

Markstrom on waivers.

[EvoFire]

Markstrom on waivers.

Came in to post that. Damn.

Do you guys think he'll get claimed? Only teams I can think of claim would probably be Devils or Jets.

[murd0c]

Came in to post that. Damn.

Do you guys think he'll get claimed? Only teams I can think of claim would probably be Devils or Jets.

He's a good goalie and I could see a team picking him up no questions asked.

[MR_BIGGS]

There's a couple other goalies sitting unemployed. He could get picked up but I hope he doesn't.

Lots of potential if they properly coach him I think.