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murd0c
06-14-2014, 06:41 AM
Well its the start of the Benning and Linden era new so hopefully getting this new coach will go down a little better then it went with Tortz last year. I haven't been this excited about the draft in a long time which its nice having a GM that other GM's respect and has all of this drafting experience as well.


http://i.imgur.com/xO19A4N.jpg

EuterVanWasser
06-14-2014, 06:43 AM
This.. should be an interesting year.

Gumby
06-14-2014, 07:37 AM
It's nice to have some people in management that are well respected across the league once again.

hypediss
06-14-2014, 08:11 AM
Stevens for coach pls pls pls pls plsssss

EmperorIS
06-14-2014, 09:18 AM
CANUCKS BEST TEAM IN THE LEAGUE WOOOOOOOOOOOO

STANLEY CUP CHAMPIONS 2014-2015
THEY GOT THE BEST COACH THE BEST PLAYERS AND BEST MANAGEMENT BITCHESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

Infiniti
06-14-2014, 10:18 AM
^ easy there tiger!

CRS
06-14-2014, 10:21 AM
CANUCKS BEST TEAM IN THE LEAGUE WOOOOOOOOOOOO

STANLEY CUP CHAMPIONS 2014-2015
THEY GOT THE BEST COACH THE BEST PLAYERS AND BEST MANAGEMENT BITCHESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

You're really pushing to get banned from the thread again, eh?

Not really racist!
06-14-2014, 11:32 AM
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h240/JVD_me/ingif.gif

Tegra_Devil
06-14-2014, 12:05 PM
^LOL!!!!!

Vale46Rossi
06-14-2014, 12:09 PM
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO First Page!

HonestTea
06-14-2014, 12:14 PM
First page!

Vale46Rossi
06-14-2014, 12:14 PM
http://i.imgur.com/cEvjPKB.jpg

LsquareD
06-14-2014, 01:40 PM
http://iliketowastemytime.com/sites/default/files/best_animated_images_car_jump_in.gif

Ronin
06-14-2014, 01:46 PM
Please make a big splash at the draft, Benning.

spoon.ek9
06-14-2014, 02:08 PM
god i love this thread already lolol

murd0c
06-14-2014, 02:13 PM
I was shocked when I woke up this morning and no one made one yet. 3rd year in a row making the Canucks thread :fuckyea:

Not really racist!
06-14-2014, 02:14 PM
1st page missing some content so lets throw some up

GMJB Team 1040 Interview yesterday
credit to CDC

- Has done a couple coach interviews and has a bunch more scheduled for next week. Will then sit down, discuss with management and make a decision based on who is the best guy fitted for the job.

- Coaching candidates are all which JB and staff are familiar with. Have previous history with them whether it be following them in the minors, scouting, etc and won't get a coach they are not familiar with.

- Yelling-screaming coaching style is "embarrassing" and coaches that used that before will not succeed in todays NHL. Says the game has changed and there's not room for that style of coaching anymore and wants a coach who communicates well and gives lee-way for players to learn from mistakes. A coach that is "Firm but fair."

- Praised Portland Winterhawks coach Mike Johnston quite a bit and is definitely a coaching candidate. Likes him quite a bit and has already interviewed him which "went really well."

- Deciding if they will use their last compliance buyout. Window is only a few days as it will close after the Cup finals.

- Talks with Kesler's agent on a daily basis and won't comment any further on that. Trying to find out what will go on there. Way he sounded, doesn't seem like Kesler will be here much longer.

- Likes this draft class. Likes the top 6 guys and will be happy with whoever falls at #6.

- In constant communication with teams picking ahead of Vancouver and will try to trade up. Closer to draft, things will heat up and more likely trades happen then. Right now it's too far away from the draft to make anything certain regarding trades for all teams.

- Negotiations have started with Santorelli, Kassian, and Tanev and will continue to work on getting deals done. Santorelli is feeling better and will address his status moving forward.

http://www.teamradio.ca/news/2014/06/13/jim-benning-on-team1040

Owners, open your wallets. We’re counting down to buyout season.

The second and final window for the NHL clubs to use their amnesty buyouts will begin the later of June 15 or 48 hours after the 2014 Stanley Cup final concludes. The buyout window slams shut for good at 5 p.m. ET on June 30. Bought-out players become unrestricted free agents and can sign with a new club on July 1.

Each team was granted two compliance buyouts to use either last summer or this one, a clause embedded in the new CBA to provide some previously spend-silly GMs with a mulligan. Or two. Some teams have already hinted at their intentions publicly; others are remaining tight-lipped and will work the trade phones until they’re left with no other options.

In order to be bought out, the player must not be injured, however. He must also pass through waivers, although that is more a matter of formality since no one is jumping to pay Ville Leino what the 2011 Sabres are. Important to note that a player cannot re-sign with the same club that bought him out until a full calendar year passes.

Here, in brief, is what we know about where your favourite team stands on using its buyouts before the window closes.

Anaheim Ducks Buyouts used: 0
The Ducks, quiet thus far, will likely sit pat — a testament to GM Bob Murray’s salary cap management.

Boston Bruins Buyouts used: 0
General manager Peter Chiarelli has committed big money and term to a handful of players, but they’ve all performed. The Bruins announced early last summer that an amnesty buyout wasn’t in the plans. Wouldn’t be surprised if they do the same this June.

Buffalo Sabres Buyouts used: 0
Ville Leino ($4.5-million cap hit until 2016-17) is the posterboy buyout candidate, but former GM Darcy Regier pulled the trigger on forward Nathan Gerbe ($1.45 million cap hit through 2013-14) last season instead. Gerbe’s buyout, however, did not fall under the amnesty category. He signed with the Carolina Hurricanes and scored 31 points; Leino scored no goals this season. New manager Tim Murray said in April there would be “a very good possibility” he buys out Leino now.

Calgary Flames Buyouts used: 0
Positioned well under the cap and prepared to spend, it’s highly doubtful the Flames use a buyout.

Carolina Hurricanes Buyouts used: 0
The Hurricanes traded their leading buyout candidate, Tuomo Ruutu ($4.75 million cap hit until 2015-16), to the New Jersey Devils at the March deadline.

Chicago Blackhawks Buyouts used: 2
They aren’t headline-grabbing names, but Chicago bought out Steve Montador ($2.75 million cap hit until 2014-15) and Rostislav Olesz ($3.125 million until 2013-14) after winning the 2013 Stanley Cup in order to free up cash and re-sign Bryan Bickell, then a pending UFA.

Colorado Avalanche Buyouts used: o
In 2013, Joe Sakic used a standard buyout on defenceman Greg Zanon ($2.25 million cap hit through 2013-14). Although P.A. Parenteau has spent time in coach Patrick Roy’s doghouse, he’s more likely to be traded than bought out.

Columbus Blue Jackets Buyouts used: 0
No buyouts last summer. This summer, there is an outside chance 32-year-old forward R.J. Umberger ($4.6 million cap hit through 2016-17) is a candidate.

Detroit Red Wings Buyouts used: 1
Defenceman Carlo Colaiacovo ($2.5 million cap hit through 2013-14) got the buyout last summer; he signed a cheap, one-year deal with St. Louis and played sparingly on the Blues’ blue line. The contracts of overpaid forwards Todd Bertuzzi and Mikael Samuelsson are set to expire, giving the Red Wings some cap space to play with this summer. On April 29, Detroit GM Ken Holland said he would not pursue a buyout of forward Johan Franzen ($3.95 million cap hit through 2019-20) but is considering using the team’s final amnesty buyout on Jordin Tootoo ($1.9 million cap hit through 2014-15). Tootoo played just 11 NHL games in 2013-14, registering a single assist.

Dallas Stars Buyouts used: 0
Veteran forward Eric Cole isn’t cheap ($4.5 million cap hit until 2014-15), and he wasn’t GM Jim Nill’s acquisition. The 35-year-old’s production (29 points in 2013-14) has fallen off sharply.

Edmonton Oilers Buyouts used: 0
The Oilers’ big-money deals have all been made with young, promising stars. Nothing to see here.

Florida Panthers Buyouts used: 0
Panthers GM Dale Tallon might take a look at buying out ailing captain Ed Jovanovski ($4.1 million cap hit until 2014-15). Under new ownership, the team has grown more keen to spend to win.

Los Angeles Kings Buyouts used: 0
Last spring general manager Dean Lombardi said his club was devoid of poor contracts and there would be no need to use a compliance buyout. But Eric Duhatschek of the Globe & Mail raises the possibility of Lombardi buying out 29-year-old centre Mike Richards this summer. Richards notched five points through his first 15 playoff games this spring but has seen his production decrease over the last three seasons. Despite playing all 82 games and bringing much coveted hockey “intangibles,” this year Ricahrds scored just 11 goals and hasn’t hit 20 since he left Philadelphia after the 2010-11 campaign. “Unlike Jeff Carter, who has gotten better and better in his time in L.A., Richards has really struggled,” writes Duhatschek. Whether or not the Kings re-sign pending UFA Marian Gaborik — red-hot this post-season — could play a factor here. Richards is signed through 2020 with a cap hit of $5.75 million, but he’ll make $7 million in actual salary next season. According to capgeek.com, buying out Richards would cost the Kings $19.33 million over 12 years.

Minnesota Wild Buyouts used: 1
Last summer the Wild used its first compliance buyout on defenceman Tom Gilbert ($4 million cap hit through 2013-14). Gilbert signed a one-year, $900,000 deal with Florida and provided the Panthers with good value. With forward Dany Heatley’s $7 million cap hit coming off the books, the Wild should be fine.

Montreal Canadiens Buyouts used: 2
The Habs have used up both buyouts already. After paying off Scott Gomez immediately after the 2012-13 lockout ended, Montreal gave defenceman Tomas Kaberle his pink slip. After single-season stints with San Jose and Florida, Gomez is a UFA once again. Kaberle spent 2013-14 playing for Kladno in the Czech Elite League.

Nashville Predators Buyouts used: 1
General manger David Poile tapped defenceman Hal Gill for a buyout in 2013. The free-agent veteran found a one-year, $700,000 gig with Philadelphia early in 2013-14 but played just six games.

New Jersey Devils Buyouts used: 1
Upon acquiring Cory Schneider from Vancouver, Lou Lamoriello bought out third-string goaltender Johan Hedberg in 2013. This year Anton Volchenkov ($4.25 million cap hit until 2015-16) has a target on him.

New York Islanders Buyouts used: 1
It is as if the compliance buyout was created for Rick DiPietro ($3.57 million cap hit until 2020-21), whom the Isles bought out in 2013. Regardless if another club signs him as a UFA, DiPietro will collect $1.5 million annually for 16 seasons. Read that sentence again. Now feel free to retrieve your jaw from the floor.

New York Rangers Buyouts used: 1
Perhaps the most compelling buyout candidate of all is centre Brad Richards, who was rumoured to be on the chopping block in 2013 but turned his game around under new coach Alain Vigneault. The Rangers already used up one get-out-of-jail-free card on defenceman Wade Redden, who enjoyed a brief NHL encore with the Blues and Bruins in 2013 before retiring. The 33-year-old Richards’ $6.67 million cap hit through 2019-20 is a strain in New York, even when he’s at the top of his game. “I really can’t make any comments about what’s going to happen during the summer,” Rangers GM Glen Sather said on June 3. “It’s not something that we need to get into talking with. He’s with the New York Rangers.”

Ottawa Senators Buyouts used: 0
Don’t expect to see a compliance buyout in the budget-conscious Canadian capital.

Philadelphia Flyers Buyouts used: 2
The Flyers cut two giant cheques — one to forward Danny Briere and one to goaltender Ilya Bryzgalov — in 2013, giving GM Paul Holmgren a pair of significant mulligans. It’s as if the whole idea of amnesty buyouts was created for this free-spending team. At reasonable rates, Bryzgalov (Minnesota) and Briere (Montreal) enjoyed stretches of success in 2013-14.

Phoenix Coyotes Buyouts used: 0
Buyouts are the least of the Coyotes’ worries; the rumour mill has been quiet on the amnesty front.

Pittsburgh Penguins Buyouts used: 0
Goaltender Marc-Andre Fleury ($5 million cap hit through 2014-15) was a rumoured candidate last summer. His bounce-back season has quieted speculation.

San Jose Sharks Buyouts used: 0
Past-his-prime forward Martin Havlat has been plagued with injuries and carries a $5 million cap hit through 2014-15. GM Doug Wilson has already informed Havlat that he will not be back with San Jose next season.

St. Louis Blues Buyouts used: 0
The St. Louis Blues’ player salaries have been very well managed. No buyouts here.

Tampa Bay Lightning Buyouts used: 1
Former franchise face Vincent Lecavalier ($7.73 million cap hit until 2019-20) became the recipient of the largest buyout in NHL history ($32 million plus) in 2013. He was snatched up by the Flyers. Depth forward Ryan Malone ($4.5 million cap hit through 2014-15) is the prime candidate to go this summer; his cocaine arrest didn’t help his trade value. Although players, such as Malone, who are enrolled in the league’s Substance Abuse and Behavioral Health Program cannot be bought out, Malone could be finished with the program before the buyout period commences.

Toronto Maple Leafs Buyouts used: 2
The cash-flush Maple Leafs pulled the plug on defenceman Mike Komisarek and centre Mikhail Grabovski in 2013. Komisarek played 32 games for Carolina in 2013-14, while Grabovski left angry and had a nice little bounce-back season in Washington.

Vancouver Canucks Buyouts used: 1
Defenceman Keith Ballard ($4.2 million cap hit until 2014-15) was bought out in 2013 and signed a two-year, $3-million deal with Minnesota. Much speculation has winger David Booth ($4.25 million cap hit through 2014-15) becoming the Canucks’ second compliance buyout this summer, although there is a case to keep him. Booth’s agent, Mike Liut, had a “good talk” with new GM Jim Benning at the NHL Combine about Booth’s future, according to News 1130. Interesting to note that former coach John Tortorella reportedly wanted the Canucks to buy out Alexandre Burrows. The winger scored just five goals in 49 games in 2013-14; he carries a cap hit of $4.5 million and is signed through 2016-17.

Washington Capitals Buyouts used: 1
Former Capitals GM George McPhee bought out defenceman Jeff Schultz ($2.75 million cap hit through 2013-14) last summer. Schultz signed with L.A. but only played for the Kings’ AHL affiliate this season. Forward Brooks Laich ($4.5 million cap hit through 2016-17) scored just eight goals in 2013-14 before injuring his groin; the 30-year-old had his least productive season since his rookie campaign. A team cannot buyout an injured player, however, and Laich, who underwent groin surgery in March, failed his end-of-year physical. The Capitals can bring him in for another physical before the buyout period commences.

Winnipeg Jets Buyouts used: 0
Despite rumblings that goaltender Ondrej Pavelec ($3.9 million cap hit through 2016-17) might not be long for Winnipeg, GM Kevin Cheveldayoff announced in April that Pavelec will be the Jets’ starting goaltender in 2014-15. The Jets are unlikely to use an amnesty buyout.

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/countdown-to-nhl-buyout-season-what-we-know/

also relevant..

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bh6uzX3CcAQFnWt.png:large

http://capgeek.com/recapture-grid - 5* site

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-ovC7exdRg9s/U5yPdQ6167I/AAAAAAAAHiw/qdPRWQe-FvY/s1600/4.gif

http://i.imgur.com/FFpwotS.gif

mb_
06-14-2014, 02:15 PM
IN4FIRSTPAGE

Hondaracer
06-14-2014, 02:32 PM
Go panthers!

fliptuner
06-14-2014, 02:43 PM
subbed

punkwax
06-14-2014, 03:03 PM
This is how excited I am for the upcoming season.

Don't drop that Durka Durk!! - YouTube

XplicitLuder
06-14-2014, 04:12 PM
can't wait. Kinda excited, whether we do good or bad

Tim Budong
06-14-2014, 04:33 PM
hahha I'm happy for a few reasons here:

1. Canucks fans would never shut up about firing a "cup winning" coach
2. Because Rangers
3. Because I disliked AV long before he was dismissed

Your last comment. I dont wanna dig through 3 years of threads

TypeRNammer
06-14-2014, 06:58 PM
In for the first page!

slicrick
06-14-2014, 07:09 PM
in for first page, Changed my signature :okay:

Hell of a year for NYR regardless of making the finals and not winning, remember when they were getting out scored 8-1, 9-1 and were the worst team in the league
too bad Brad Richards contract is another 5 years at 6.6 or else they could buy out Rick Nash both have under performed but Nash especially

Excited to see what changes are coming for both NYR and the Canucks this year, NYR has to re-sign Zuccarello, Brassard, John Moore, Kreider and Falk as RFA and lots of UFA's also Stralman, Diaz, Boyle, Dom Moore, Pouliot and Carcillo it's almost certain that some are gone hopefully they can keep most of those guys though.

MG1
06-14-2014, 07:37 PM
First page, damn it!!!!

MG1
06-14-2014, 07:40 PM
I was shocked when I woke up this morning and no one made one yet. 3rd year in a row making the Canucks thread :fuckyea:

You da man!

I've got the new year's thread covered........hee hee.

MG1
06-14-2014, 07:43 PM
what the hell just happen????????

I was in on first page.... for a few seconds. Fuark!!!!!!!!!

MG1
06-14-2014, 07:46 PM
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h240/JVD_me/ingif.gif

I love that clip, man.........



there's no doubt in that reindeer chick's mind he's in.......... no more of this, "Is it in yet?" comment. It's in! yuk, yuk, yuk.


It could be dude has it in the wrong hole, too. Doesn't matter, it's IN!

jack3d
06-14-2014, 07:50 PM
2nd page wooo

Lowered_Klass
06-14-2014, 08:03 PM
http://i.minus.com/iKmqeeKMWbdDb.gif

CRS
06-14-2014, 09:17 PM
I was shocked when I woke up this morning and no one made one yet. 3rd year in a row making the Canucks thread :fuckyea:

:lol

I'm pretty sure everyone was waiting for you to do it.

spoon.ek9
06-14-2014, 10:10 PM
Your last comment. I dont wanna dig through 3 years of threads

you could have actually clicked quote then copied and pasted this in here lol...

pastarocket
06-15-2014, 05:23 AM
Second page woo hoo!

This season looks promising under Linden and Benning.

I'm hoping that Benning drafts a good player AND pulls off a Kesler trade at the draft. Some good news at the draft for once compared to the shit show last year in Jersey.

Durrann
06-15-2014, 09:00 AM
Eggciting

Tegra_Devil
06-15-2014, 10:13 AM
This is the year for you canucks fans!!! I feel it...Gonna get your team name on that Stanley cup!!!! CANUCKS 2015!!!!!
















































































:troll:

Grandmaster TSE
06-15-2014, 10:43 AM
in on second

Tim Budong
06-15-2014, 11:55 AM
So it looks like the NYR are going to use the buyout on Brad Richards

slicrick
06-15-2014, 12:41 PM
NYR would have to be crazy not to he actually played fairly well until the finals and had a decent regular season but he is not worth 6.6M for another 5 years, if he is willing to sign somewhere for a decent price I'm sure a lot of teams would be interested in him

Now who the Rangers designate as their captain this season?

IMO Girardi, Staal, St Louis could all be a captain maybe even McDonagh but the 3 mentioned before I think would be a better fit

trancehead
06-15-2014, 12:58 PM
I say St Louis

dont think anyone in that locker room would feel comfortable taking it over an established vet like st louis. and also considering the amount of respect he gets there

his level of play and heart is so consistent. that is respected as well

m3thods
06-15-2014, 01:23 PM
St Louis is only there for one more year.

The C will go to one of their younger long-term players. Like mentioned already, my bet is McDonagh.

trancehead
06-15-2014, 01:33 PM
true in that hes only there for a year, maybe he may even get another extension if he can hack it. but i dont see them giving it to McDonagh over St Louis while he is still there

McDonagh or the other younger players would be prime to get it once St Louis has retired or signed elsewhere

slicrick
06-15-2014, 01:42 PM
St Louis is only there for one more year.

The C will go to one of their younger long-term players. Like mentioned already, my bet is McDonagh.

I was thinking that Girardi is the most likely to receive the C as he has been part of their farm team and than the big club since being passed on in the 03 draft and being signed as a free agent to the Hartford Whalers

He has also been an assistant captain and leadership guy when Staal was concussed/eye injury, Girardi just last year signed a 6 year contract that start's this next season and will keep him in NY for the foreseeable future so long as is he is not traded

If McDonagh doesn't get an A this year he might next year as Staal and St Louis are both UFA's next year and who knows how that will pan out if they are going to stay or go, anything could happen NYR pretty much lost their captain this season (Callahan) because of the crazy amount of money he wanted for his next contract

nah
06-15-2014, 03:53 PM
I was thinking that Girardi is the most likely to receive the C as he has been part of their farm team and than the big club since being passed on in the 03 draft and being signed as a free agent to the Hartford Whalers

He has also been an assistant captain and leadership guy when Staal was concussed/eye injury, Girardi just last year signed a 6 year contract that start's this next season and will keep him in NY for the foreseeable future so long as is he is not traded

If McDonagh doesn't get an A this year he might next year as Staal and St Louis are both UFA's next year and who knows how that will pan out if they are going to stay or go, anything could happen NYR pretty much lost their captain this season (Callahan) because of the crazy amount of money he wanted for his next contract

Staal to Carolina to be with his brothers, all 4 Staals in one team's system (Jared on farm).

Shark Tank
06-15-2014, 04:56 PM
So it looks like the NYR are going to use the buyout on Brad Richards

Reclamation project anyone?

If we can convince him to sign for league minimum he wouldn't be a bad 3/4 line center for us.

Flashback: We almost traded for him when he was playing for lightning under Nonis regime.

I would take the gamble if it doesnt work out can just send him down to utica or waivers

Ikkaku
06-15-2014, 05:22 PM
would be fun to have them differentiate Brad Richards and Brad Richardson

RRxtar
06-15-2014, 05:57 PM
RS would pee its pants if we got Mike Richards too

Tim Budong
06-15-2014, 06:20 PM
RS would pee its pants if we got Mike Richards too

another demoted richard lol

will the kings buy him out?

urrh
06-15-2014, 06:26 PM
2nd page in
see you guys next playoffs

rsx
06-15-2014, 06:28 PM
No to Brad Richards. Jesus, another old useless expensive player.

Canucks won't win without getting rid of 60% of its roster.

MG1
06-15-2014, 07:14 PM
Is EmperorIS banned from this thread already?

FS1992EG
06-15-2014, 07:27 PM
No to Brad Richards. Jesus, another old useless expensive player.

Canucks won't win without getting rid of 60% of its roster.



AV... So Sad.

chouchou
06-15-2014, 07:56 PM
QUICK! VANCOUVER CANUCKS & JIM BENNING! HIRE FS1992EG!!!!

bobbinka
06-15-2014, 09:42 PM
QUICK! VANCOUVER CANUCKS & JIM BENNING! HIRE FS1992EG!!!!

can't. He's needed to run Translink :)

Not really racist!
06-16-2014, 12:33 AM
can't. He's needed to run Translink :)

http://abload.de/img/untitled-13uxu01.gif

RIP

Gh0stRider
06-16-2014, 01:29 AM
Is EmperorIS banned from this thread already?

no.....not yet

trancehead
06-16-2014, 02:19 AM
if anyone knows how to recycle players, its usually detroit

vancouver...not so much.

I wonder if Santorelli is part of Linden and Benning's plan.

From what i heard on the 1040 (might have been another station, but it is 1040):
Something along the lines of Benning being a icy guy in terms of management. Can pull the trigger on hard shots. Ie, Tyler Seguin. Apparently he had some/most input on this one...to trade a budding talent (could have went 1st overall as well) like him to address some other needs of positional(winger) need and prospects.

They also harped on GM Mike Gillis for having all these assets (luongo etc) and not being able to move them. for sitting still for too long. They discussed that Benning should be the guy who gets shit done.

I cant wait to see what he can fetch for Kesler (as much as i think hes an integral player)

sonick
06-16-2014, 08:20 AM
sub'd

CRS
06-16-2014, 08:24 AM
Bob McKenzie ‏@TSNBobMcKenzie 20m
DAL puts Aaron Rome on unconditional ($125) waivers for purposes of enacting a buyout. Only player on waivers today.

So is NYR going to pick him up for AV?

highfive
06-16-2014, 08:57 AM
if anyone knows how to recycle players, its usually detroit

vancouver...not so much.

I wonder if Santorelli is part of Linden and Benning's plan.

From what i heard on the 1040 (might have been another station, but it is 1040):
Something along the lines of Benning being a icy guy in terms of management. Can pull the trigger on hard shots. Ie, Tyler Seguin. Apparently he had some/most input on this one...to trade a budding talent (could have went 1st overall as well) like him to address some other needs of positional(winger) need and prospects.

They also harped on GM Mike Gillis for having all these assets (luongo etc) and not being able to move them. for sitting still for too long. They discussed that Benning should be the guy who gets shit done.

I cant wait to see what he can fetch for Kesler (as much as i think hes an integral player)

I only see Santorelli as a 3rd line RW/C. Depending on salary, I don't mind seeing Hansen shipped off and keep Santorelli. Santorelli seems to have more hustle than Hansen last year. Maybe honey badgers really don't give a shit...

jeedee
06-16-2014, 08:59 AM
Santorelli seems to have more hustle than Hansen last year. Maybe honey badgers really don't give a shit...

Or maybe Hansen was having a bad year like 95% of the rest of the team............

dbaz
06-16-2014, 10:24 AM
apparently weise re-signed with mtl today. 2years at 1mil per year

murd0c
06-16-2014, 10:31 AM
I'm still pissed at Gillis for that bag of pucks trade...

dbaz
06-16-2014, 10:51 AM
I didn't like him so don't care, people overly obsessed with his Dutch league points. would rather spend the money his cap would of taken on fiddler

Ch28
06-16-2014, 10:53 AM
I only see Santorelli as a 3rd line RW/C. Depending on salary, I don't mind seeing Hansen shipped off and keep Santorelli. Santorelli seems to have more hustle than Hansen last year. Maybe honey badgers really don't give a shit...

Santo was probably one of our best players before he went down with the injury

murd0c
06-16-2014, 10:54 AM
I didn't like him so don't care, people overly obsessed with his Dutch league points. would rather spend the money his cap would of taken on fiddler

He had a low cap his and played with heart. I don't care about the Dutch league points I just cared he played in the dirty spots and got in front of the net which the team was lacking.

trancehead
06-16-2014, 11:30 AM
Santo was probably one of our best players before he went down with the injury

i felt Santo was one of the best too at the time
although he may have only been that successful as a result of tort's system. dont know if he will be effective moving forward.

we do need more centreman anyways. esp since kesler is departing

6o4__boi
06-16-2014, 11:52 AM
He had a low cap his and played with heart. I don't care about the Dutch league points I just cared he played in the dirty spots and got in front of the net which the team was lacking.


MG was banking on that 5th round pick becoming a superstar :troll:

Either way he's pretty replaceable so i'm not too concerned.
Good for him to find a solid spot with the Habs.

Tim Budong
06-16-2014, 12:13 PM
the whole dutch gretzky thing was all sarcasm

come on guys LOL

Not really racist!
06-16-2014, 12:24 PM
What makes you think Weise would have done those things for us? lol, we never utilized him the way we should have, he was clearly the odd man out and we needed defensive depth due to injuries.

We should be HAPPY he got traded so he was able to play a role he couldn't have here in the ECF. So while everyone HATES Gillis, that trade was NOT that bad AT THE TIME based on the circumstances

shawnly1000
06-16-2014, 01:39 PM
https://twitter.com/strombone1/status/478651837126819840

Strombone ‏@strombone1
If I could only pick 1 reason why I never wanted the @LAKings to ever win a Stanley Cup again this would def be it!
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BqSDTzTCAAEOcSM.jpg

Harvey Specter
06-16-2014, 02:45 PM
"We are all Kings"...sound familiar. :suspicious:

jeedee
06-16-2014, 06:51 PM
"We are all Kings"...sound familiar. :suspicious:

dis u riff raff?

http://nesncom.files.wordpress.com/2014/05/5eye3wu.jpg?w=410&h=728

RIP canooks fans :troll:

SkinnyPupp
06-16-2014, 06:56 PM
LOL @ butthurt Canucks fans getting ripped by team twitter accounts :lawl:

Ch28
06-16-2014, 10:22 PM
dis u riff raff?

http://nesncom.files.wordpress.com/2014/05/5eye3wu.jpg?w=410&h=728

RIP canooks fans :troll:
http://i.imgur.com/3fQvi5s.gif

Simulated
06-17-2014, 07:06 AM
https://twitter.com/News1130Sports/statuses/478914805844414464

not sure if i want shawn thornton here. dude is already 36 and i just can't see him backing up the canuck players like he did with boston. it would almost even be "messier" like to bring in the enemy to collect pay checks during his twilight years.

7seven
06-17-2014, 07:19 AM
Thornton might be ok on a 1 year deal, but anymore than that I'd be wary.

Hondaracer
06-17-2014, 07:48 AM
Thornton is a plug, he's only effective in the right system. Don't see it working wth the Canucks

highfive
06-17-2014, 08:06 AM
Bob McKenzie ‏@TSNBobMcKenzie 1m

VAN puts David Booth on unconditional waivers for purpose of buyout.


WOOOOOO!

Bob McKenzie ‏@TSNBobMcKenzie 1m

BUF puts Ville Leino on unconditional waivers for purpose of buyout.

in other news...

jeedee
06-17-2014, 08:11 AM
loving bennings first move to buy out booth :joy:

murd0c
06-17-2014, 08:21 AM
about fucken time

Jmac
06-17-2014, 08:47 AM
Watch Booth score 30 next season :troll:

dbaz
06-17-2014, 08:49 AM
Dat cap space. 16mil. Bring on vanek @8mil

2nd line of horvat-Kesler-vanek

:troll:

highfive
06-17-2014, 08:54 AM
Watch Booth score 30 next season :troll:

Wouldn't be surprised he pulls a Mason Raymond, signs a cheap contract and scores 20 or something.

Booth was a good player for us. But for $4 million, expectations were too high.


It's just funny how the Canucks are paying Luongo, Ballard, and Booth not to play in Vancouver. Gillis not to GM. And Torts not to Coach.

murd0c
06-17-2014, 08:56 AM
The free agent list isn't even that great this year, I say bring in the young kids and save the cap space for now.


NHL Free Agents (http://www.capgeek.com/free-agents)

highfive
06-17-2014, 09:00 AM
Dat cap space. 16mil. Bring on vanek @8mil

2nd line of horvat-Kesler-vanek

:troll:

Maybe Benning's "talks" with Kesler is like, we are going to buy out booth and use his salary to bring someone in that will pass to you. Who do you want Kes? Stastny? Vanek? lol :troll:

dbaz
06-17-2014, 09:00 AM
Only young kids with a good chance to make the team this year are probably horvat gaunce and maybe corrado. Others are long shots, Jensen included

m3thods
06-17-2014, 09:51 AM
Maybe Benning's "talks" with Kesler is like, we are going to buy out booth and use his salary to bring someone in that will pass to you. Who do you want Kes? Stastny? Vanek? lol :troll:

No.

Infiniti
06-17-2014, 10:26 AM
No Vanek please! I wonder how much Gaborik is gonna get wherever he resigns..?

cliffhanger33
06-17-2014, 10:30 AM
David Ebner @DavidEbner
$9-million Canucks spend in 2014-15 on people to stay away: $2mm Gillis, $2mm Tortorella, $3.2-mm Booth, $2.8-million Ballard $0.8-mm Luongo

ouch hahaha

will068
06-17-2014, 11:06 AM
"We are all Kings"...sound familiar. :suspicious:
Can't deny it.. that sounds so much better.

sonick
06-17-2014, 12:05 PM
Elliotte Friedman and Scott Oake joins Rogers/Sportsnet NHL Broadcast Team

jeedee
06-17-2014, 08:13 PM
Only young kids with a good chance to make the team this year are probably horvat gaunce and maybe corrado. Others are long shots, Jensen included

how is Jensen a long shot?

you do know he played the last 15 games of last season and did fairly well and put up decent points right?

i think he'll have a roster spot next season

Tim Budong
06-17-2014, 08:30 PM
What Can We Do With the Stanley Cup? - YouTube

Ludepower
06-17-2014, 08:33 PM
The free agent list isn't even that great this year, I say bring in the young kids and save the cap space for now.


NHL Free Agents (http://www.capgeek.com/free-agents)

Stastny is a solid 2 way player. 2nd line center for sure.
He's worth the money...but keep him on a short 2 year deal.

Ryan O'Reilly and the avs are once again in an bitter contract dispute.
Avs could use Edler and Canucks take ROR.

nah
06-17-2014, 08:50 PM
I'd take Moulson or Iginla from UFA.

bobbinka
06-17-2014, 08:54 PM
Ryan O'Reilly and the avs are once again in an bitter contract dispute.
Avs could use Edler and Canucks take ROR.

benning said he won't ask Edler to waive NTC.

dbaz
06-17-2014, 08:56 PM
how is Jensen a long shot?

you do know he played the last 15 games of last season and did fairly well and put up decent points right?

i think he'll have a roster spot next season

As well as he did, he still needs to prove a lot. Sustainable point production over a year, and more importantly defensive liability. 6pts in 17nhl games, and 21in 54 ahl games. Yes, we can contribute his slow start to his injury, but he still needs to show a lot more. For a team who says they are going to be "competitive" he needs to put up a solid ahl year first. I'll compare his production to Jurco. Similar points in first AHL year, but next year could put up ppg, and get the call up
There's also the fact that Burrows should be playing with the Sedins again next year. As bad as Burrows did last year, he was injured, played injured, and basically thrown on the 2nd-3rd line by Torts, while Jensen got his 17games with Sedins for the most part. Burrows besides having previous years of chemistry, is also the defensive part to this line, something Jensen cannot offer at the moment.
Jensen could have a roster spot, but only if we trade Kesler(without receiving a winger), and don't sign ufa's, but that looks doubtful. In comparison to Horvat and Gaunce, he can not play bottom 6 minutes like they can, as they have greater defensive ability, and see the game better.

jeedee
06-17-2014, 08:57 PM
benning said he won't ask Edler to waive NTC.

Link?

I remember him saying he'll ask guys with NTC's if they want to be moved/he would trade guys with NTC's if it makes the team better

Something like that.

jeedee
06-17-2014, 09:04 PM
As well as he did, he still needs to prove a lot. Sustainable point production over a year, and more importantly defensive liability. 6pts in 17nhl games, and 21in 54 ahl games. Yes, we can contribute his slow start to his injury, but he still needs to show a lot more. For a team who says they are going to be "competitive" he needs to put up a solid ahl year first. I'll compare his production to Jurco. Similar points in first AHL year, but next year could put up ppg, and get the call up
There's also the fact that Burrows should be playing with the Sedins again next year. As bad as Burrows did last year, he was injured, played injured, and basically thrown on the 2nd-3rd line by Torts, while Jensen got his 17games with Sedins for the most part.
Jensen could have a roster spot, but only if we trade Kesler(without receiving a winger), and don't sign ufa's, but that looks doubtful. In comparison to Horvat and Gaunce, he can not play bottom 6 minutes like they can, as they have greater defensive ability, and see the game better.

I wouldn't say he's a defensive liability...its not like he/the line he was on was getting scored on. He has the size and skills to play/keep up in the NHL. He's still a rookie and will have growing pains (like most rookies). Hopefully he can learn and adapt quickly. I wouldn't mind seeing him in the AHL.

Same thing with Horvat and Gaunce. There is no point in putting them in bottom 6 minutes. That does absolutely nothing with their development. We've seen it with Kassian when he was on the 4th line/bottom 6 when AV was the coach. How can he (and Gaunce/Horvat/Jensen) develop/put up points when they're not given roles to succeed?

Rather just have Gaunce & Horvat with their junior clubs/AHL where they'll have more minutes for development vs 4th line minutes that does nothing for them.

bobbinka
06-17-2014, 09:07 PM
Link?

I remember him saying he'll ask guys with NTC's if they want to be moved/he would trade guys with NTC's if it makes the team better

Something like that.

my bad, it was Linden that said "it's not in our consideration"... but Benning can't go over Linden anyway

Kuzma: Linden gives embattled Edler a vote of confidence (http://www.theprovince.com/sports/Kuzma+Linden+gives+embattled+Edler+vote+confidence/9904383/story.html)

punkwax
06-17-2014, 09:20 PM
I, for one, hope Edler proves all the naysayers wrong. He had a shitty season trying to learn Torts' system, which apparently didn't work for anyone. Pretty much top to bottom, with very few exceptions, nothing but regress.

I'm optimistic for a bounce back season before writing him off, as well as many others for that matter. Again, new coach, new system with a learning curve. I may withhold judgement on a lot of players at the end of 2015.. patience is key for Canuck fans. If you're impatient, you'll only drive yourself nuts. Rome wasn't built in a day.

Mike Oxbig
06-17-2014, 09:23 PM
Shinkaruk needs Etem like he did playing in Medicine Hat
:derp: trade kesler to ANA for etem + ott's 1st and sign statsny as 2nd line center

Or maybe the Canucks are trying to hire Bylsma to convince Kesler to stay... :ohgodwhy:

SoulCrusher
06-17-2014, 09:26 PM
Subscribed

Lowered_Klass
06-17-2014, 09:34 PM
Big_Earl, you have no idea how badly I wish the Canucks would use your avatar as their logo.

That would make for a SICK jersey.

AzNightmare
06-17-2014, 09:44 PM
Big_Earl, you have no idea how badly I wish the Canucks would use your avatar as their logo.

That would make for a SICK jersey.

I still like this concept the best.

http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z184/blackgn/johnny_canuck-jersey.jpg

m3thods
06-17-2014, 10:15 PM
Link?

I remember him saying he'll ask guys with NTC's if they want to be moved/he would trade guys with NTC's if it makes the team better

Something like that.

Benning just said that he will discuss NTCs with current players to see what they want to do. That was mentioned in his various introductory addresses.

More recently, TL said on multiple occasions (most notably with Team 1040) that he won't ask Edler to waive his for a trade. He believes that he can get Edler back to where he was in 2011 (and better, I guess).

If Stevens is part of the coaching mix, then it's a good bet that TL knows what he's talking about.

Edit: Didn't see that there was one more page. Oh well.

highfive
06-18-2014, 08:52 AM
Link?

I remember him saying he'll ask guys with NTC's if they want to be moved/he would trade guys with NTC's if it makes the team better

Something like that.

It was Linden who said Edler will not be dealt. He thinks Edler can become that #1 defenceman.

Hondaracer
06-18-2014, 09:10 AM
I know a guy who works for club 16 that works directly with Linden, like daily type thing

Him and Edler are like best friends, they have each other over for dinner all the time, families do things together etc. Edler is starting a family here in Vancouver with a well established home and close friends. No way Trevor is gonna ask him to waive the NTC

murd0c
06-18-2014, 10:48 AM
things happen quick and from the sounds of Benning hes ruthless and will trade anyone if its the right move. Linden is just a pawn the face of the Canucks remember so he really doesn't have a say with what happens behind the doors.

XplicitLuder
06-18-2014, 12:59 PM
Reports that john Stevens is staying in LA with a promotion

m3thods
06-18-2014, 01:09 PM
Reports that john Stevens is staying in LA with a promotion

Surely Sutter isn't getting bumped. What kind of promotion can you get within the coaching staff that isn't the head coach (coming from an assistant coaching position)?

XplicitLuder
06-18-2014, 01:12 PM
Dunno. Just heard on TSN that the kings won't let him talk to anyone because they want to keep him to take over sutter when the time comes.

EmperorIS
06-18-2014, 01:13 PM
even the Canucks could beat Spain.

murd0c
06-18-2014, 01:24 PM
even the Canucks could beat Spain.

You mean the Panthers :troll:

EmperorIS
06-18-2014, 01:30 PM
You mean the Panthers :troll:

That's pretty insulting to the Panthers.

m3thods
06-18-2014, 01:42 PM
I'm lost with the last 2 posts, but FLA has a bit more young talent than the Canucks. With Lu back there to at least shave off a goal against every game, they can at least make a run for the playoffs next season. If they were to add Eckblad/Reinhart, then they'd make a good case for second-best young team to watch (after the Avs).

willystyle
06-18-2014, 01:59 PM
^ They were referring to how poorly Spain played in the World Cup this morning. ;)

pastarocket
06-18-2014, 05:11 PM
I hope we get Willie, as in Willie Desjardins, as our next coach. -heard good things about him.

Linden knows him personally. Advantage Canucks over Pittsburgh? :woot2:

Canucks and Penguins ask to speak to AHL Stars' Desjardins (http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=455163)

nah
06-18-2014, 09:25 PM
it'd be interesting if we got Willie...

Willie use to work for Glenn as an assistant in Dallas and now Glenn would work for Willie in Vancouver...

highfive
06-18-2014, 09:34 PM
AV used to work for Bowness. Then vice versa

Ludepower
06-18-2014, 09:40 PM
akwaaaaaaaard

Hondaracer
06-19-2014, 06:31 AM
things happen quick and from the sounds of Benning hes ruthless and will trade anyone if its the right move. Linden is just a pawn the face of the Canucks remember so he really doesn't have a say with what happens behind the doors.

Can't trade Somone who won't waive their NTC.

7seven
06-19-2014, 07:54 AM
https://twitter.com/News1130Sports/status/479640101740609537

Canucks trying to trade Schroder before letting him walk, can't see any team giving anything up for Schroeder

6o4__boi
06-19-2014, 08:02 AM
https://twitter.com/News1130Sports/status/479640101740609537

Canucks trying to trade Schroder before letting him walk, can't see any team giving anything up for Schroeder

He's an RFA right? Lol too bad, I doubt any NHL team will sign him. Pretty sure he's Euro-bound.

sonick
06-19-2014, 08:12 AM
Sigh he seemed like he had such potential.

murd0c
06-19-2014, 08:13 AM
Canucks prospects always "seem" like they have potential but they never seem to pan out.

7seven
06-19-2014, 08:13 AM
He's an RFA right? Lol too bad, I doubt any NHL team will sign him. Pretty sure he's Euro-bound.

Yup, Canucks aren't going to qualify him, so it'll make him a UFA.

Mike Oxbig
06-19-2014, 08:29 AM
Nashville might take a look at him before minny does

highfive
06-19-2014, 08:30 AM
Canucks prospects always "seem" like they have potential but they never seem to pan out.

CDC...lol...where all your prospects become a top 6 forward or top 4 d.

Still remember ppl questioning Gillis drafting Schroeder when we drafted Cody the year before. They were asking why draft 2 small centres?

murd0c
06-19-2014, 08:34 AM
CDC...lol...where all your prospects become a top 6 forward or top 4 d.

Still remember ppl questioning Gillis drafting Schroeder when we drafted Cody the year before. They were asking why draft 2 small centres?

Cause he was the "best" player available and Gillis always drafted the best player in that situation.

Fucken Gillis

pastarocket
06-19-2014, 11:24 AM
Very interesting. Ben Kuzma of The Province speculates that Benning is gonna go for the 1st overall pick.

Pick Six may become the No. 1 pick. :woot2:

Off-Season Watch: Thursday's latest from around the NHL (http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=455200)

highfive
06-19-2014, 11:34 AM
Rumour has it that Leafs offered Kadri, Gardiner, and the 8th overall pick for the 1st.

Last time a 1st overall was traded.

Pens traded 3rd pick, 55th pick, and Samuelsson for the 1st, and 73rd from Florida.

It would be crazy if we get 1st overall and draft Reinhart.

7seven
06-19-2014, 11:43 AM
Very interesting. Ben Kuzma of The Province speculates that Benning is gonna go for the 1st overall pick.

Pick Six may become the No. 1 pick. :woot2:

Off-Season Watch: Thursday's latest from around the NHL (http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=455200)

Rumor going around is that Panthers want something like Tanev and #6 for #1, but Benning wants to ship them Garrison instead Tanev.

I know a lot of fans are horned out to get Reinhart if Canucks get the #1 pick, but I think Ekblad would be the better pick at #1. Yea I know the Canucks need a center to replace the eventual trade of Kesler, but that high in the draft, you take the best player. Bob McKenzie recently polled scouts and GMs at the combine and I think he pretty much all agreed Ekblad was the best player in this draft. He projects to be a stud #1 Dman, and the Canucks need that as much as they do a star forward. Plus Reinhart isn't projected to be on the same level as other #1 forward picks nor has shown the same in juniors as other #1 overall forwards like MacKinnon, Tavares, Stamkos, etc...

OGCStrike
06-19-2014, 11:45 AM
well if kesler is gonna be traded, i dont see us being competitive against hte likes of LA or CHI anytime soon.
might as well give schroeder a chance to make it or break it as a 2nd line centre. we have nobody with his playmaking skills in the centre spot in our prospect pool anyways.

Tim Budong
06-19-2014, 11:48 AM
If the leafs are offering that
Talon needs to take it

Hondaracer
06-19-2014, 12:15 PM
No way that's what leafs are offering lol are you kidding me?

Reinhart ain't gonna be a game breaker I agree wth the Ekblad statement

highfive
06-19-2014, 12:34 PM
Rumor going around is that Panthers want something like Tanev and #6 for #1, but Benning wants to ship them Garrison instead Tanev.

I know a lot of fans are horned out to get Reinhart if Canucks get the #1 pick, but I think Ekblad would be the better pick at #1. Yea I know the Canucks need a center to replace the eventual trade of Kesler, but that high in the draft, you take the best player. Bob McKenzie recently polled scouts and GMs at the combine and I think he pretty much all agreed Ekblad was the best player in this draft. He projects to be a stud #1 Dman, and the Canucks need that as much as they do a star forward. Plus Reinhart isn't projected to be on the same level as other #1 forward picks nor has shown the same in juniors as other #1 overall forwards like MacKinnon, Tavares, Stamkos, etc...

Prob is that Ekblad might be another J Bou or E. Johnson. Solid D but not that elite stud #1 like doughty or weber or keith.

If we do trade Tanev and 6 for 1st, Ekblad replacing Tanev would be smarter choice.

trancehead
06-19-2014, 12:35 PM
found this on canucks army
Who Should Vancouver Draft? Spoiler: It's Sam Reinhart | CanucksArmy (http://canucksarmy.com/2014/6/10/who-should-vancouver-draft-spoilers-it-s-sam-reinhart)

http://thenationnetwork.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/images/3b/ed/article_3bedd242-c296-42a9-ac69-56db1274e2f0.png

So Reinhart has similar junior numbers to the likes of Tavares, Stamkos, Mackinnon

of course there are other factors as well
i keep coming across many stating that this is a weak draft overall as well. so looking at the top of the class, one should be in mind the relativity more than anything

Mike Oxbig
06-19-2014, 12:44 PM
sam gagner got fucked over by the oilers..... maybe the blackhawks should unite him back with patty kane :hat:

7seven
06-19-2014, 12:45 PM
By numbers maybe, but going by all scouts, GMs and analyst, the consensus is that this is a weak draft for top end forward talent. They all saw more elite level skill and projections from Stamkos, Tavares, Hall, etc... Reinhart should be a good player, just not on that next level. Only time will tell.

murd0c
06-19-2014, 12:50 PM
Bill Peters just named as the Canes new head coach

Speed2K
06-19-2014, 02:20 PM
Surely Sutter isn't getting bumped. What kind of promotion can you get within the coaching staff that isn't the head coach (coming from an assistant coaching position)?

How about Associate Head Coach (http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/kings-promote-stevens-to-associate-head-coach/). Lol! :pokerface:

Gumby
06-19-2014, 02:51 PM
How about Associate Head Coach (http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/kings-promote-stevens-to-associate-head-coach/). Lol! :pokerface:
And then Senior Associate Head Coach. :troll:

Kings are just being greedy (and protecting themselves I guess) - they don't want other teams to get their hands on Stevens. If/when Sutter moves on to other things, they will have Stevens in the pipeline.

Ronin
06-19-2014, 03:15 PM
Rumors say Sutter will retire when his Kings contract expires (next year?) and Stevens will assume head coach?

SoulCrusher
06-19-2014, 10:43 PM
Subscribed

shawnly1000
06-19-2014, 10:58 PM
May not be as cheap of tickets and/or great of a lineup as Bieksa's Buddies

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Mike Oxbig
06-20-2014, 07:08 AM
NO Lucic? It's a good way to build his rep back with the city although he didnt do shit to begin with. I remember the first game here played he here with the Boston Bruins during pre-season... it was one of the loudest game ive been to, fans cheering loudly for him.

murd0c
06-20-2014, 07:26 AM
I'm not surprised, he thinks he's too good for the city now

CRS
06-20-2014, 07:58 AM
Where Willie Go?

As TSN Hockey Insider Darren Dreger tweeted Friday morning, there may be a 'change of heart' in Pittsburgh as he's hearing Willie Desjardins is no longer a slam dunk for the head coaching job following his meeting with the Penguins Thursday night.

Dreger adds that as of Thursday night, Desjardins was Pittsburgh's target but perhaps his interest in the Canucks' coaching job scuttled the Penguins' plan.

Off-Season Watch: Friday's latest from around the NHL (http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=455288)

highfive
06-20-2014, 08:27 AM
Pierre LeBrun ‏@Real_ESPNLeBrun 17s

Brad Richards has been bought out by the New York Rangers, source says

$$$$$$$$$$ damnnnn

RT @kevinweekes: Hearing from sources involved that Willie Desjardins has chosen @VanCanucks Job w multi-yr deal

Don't know how accurate this is...

stuff99
06-20-2014, 09:51 AM
Can Richards even play anymore?

7seven
06-20-2014, 09:57 AM
Don't know how accurate this is...

With Kevin Weekes, you never know, good chance it's as accurate as the bs he told the Canucks why he was late to practice because someone robbed him

murd0c
06-20-2014, 10:18 AM
The Pens must be pissed if thats the case
http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/willie-desjardins-vancouver-canucks-head-coach/

sonick
06-20-2014, 10:53 AM
Sounds like unofficially it's a done deal:

https://twitter.com/TSNBobMcKenzie/statuses/480060196463460352

6o4__boi
06-20-2014, 10:59 AM
I'm ok with that selection.
Curious to see how long this "multi-year" deal is considering what happened to the last coach who signed a "multi-year" deal here.
I'm assuming 2-3 years, anything more than 3 would be retarded imo.

pastarocket
06-20-2014, 12:54 PM
Aw yeah, It's gonna be Willie style in terms of the way our team plays this upcoming season.

-heard good things about Desjardins in terms of how he works well with both veterans and young players.

So far so good for President Linden with hiring Benning and Desjardins.

murd0c
06-20-2014, 01:15 PM
I heard Pittsburg offered him 2 and that was one of the reasons he didn't take the deal since he wants a longer term then that.

Expresso
06-20-2014, 02:03 PM
Hiring Desjardins was a no brainer. Even Gillis could've done that. Still too early to tell anything

Shark Tank
06-20-2014, 02:05 PM
I heard Pittsburg offered him 2 and that was one of the reasons he didn't take the deal since he wants a longer term then that.

He also wanted to pick his own Assistants.

Too much of a gamble to hire a coach who never HC in NHL before.
Could turn disastrous like Eakins in Deadmonton or work out like Cooper in TB

BUT....

When you have a clear front runner and perennial favorite and Veteran coach like Byslma I don't see how you choose someone else over him. His coaching style would have suited a uptempo run and gun style which Canucks want and his coaching credentials speak for itself. The guy won a Stanley Cup and stayed competitive with Marc Andre Fleury for crying out loud.

6o4__boi
06-20-2014, 02:21 PM
He also wanted to pick his own Assistants.

Too much of a gamble to hire a coach who never HC in NHL before.
Could turn disastrous like Eakins in Deadmonton or work out like Cooper in TB

BUT....

When you have a clear front runner and perennial favorite and Veteran coach like Byslma I don't see how you choose someone else over him. His coaching style would have suited a uptempo run and gun style which Canucks want and his coaching credentials speak for itself. The guy won a Stanley Cup and stayed competitive with Marc Andre Fleury for crying out loud.


true, but he also couldn't get his top players to put up points in the playoffs.

CRS
06-20-2014, 02:47 PM
https://scontent-a-sea.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/t1.0-9/10390223_10152684228776055_5077200358365554897_n.j pg

trancehead
06-20-2014, 04:35 PM
funny

though Wings Social media manager is most likely a raging feminist (beit guy or girl)

no need to get into words like that, especially when a fan is praising your on ice product (yes the men whom she wants to marry)

Ludepower
06-20-2014, 05:44 PM
she doesnt come off as a gold digger...more like a groupie fan...
a little harsh from the red wings twitter....

Ch28
06-20-2014, 05:47 PM
funny

though Wings Social media manager is most likely a raging feminist (beit guy or girl)

no need to get into words like that, especially when a fan is praising your on ice product (yes the men whom she wants to marry)

What
The
Fuck

jeedee
06-20-2014, 06:18 PM
she doesnt come off as a gold digger...more like a groupie fan...
a little harsh from the red wings twitter....

LOL if you think the red wings twitter is harsh, the guy who tweets for the kings is ruthless :lol

Grandmaster TSE
06-20-2014, 06:23 PM
theScore (http://www.thescore.com/news/523967)

more Canucks alumni coming back

punkwax
06-20-2014, 06:50 PM
Curious to see how much better the Canucks' offer is compared to Pittsburgh's. It would have to be much, much better to choose a rebuilding, aging team with the worst travel schedule in the NHL compared to what the Pens offer a coach as a whole IMO..

Not really racist!
06-20-2014, 10:57 PM
http://1.cdn.nhle.com/stars/images/upload/2012/06/WillieDesjardins_061312_DL.jpg

Shark Tank
06-20-2014, 11:40 PM
I hope they get rid glen gulutzan. Our pp was so bad with him running it. Like lidster since he played here as familiar with Trevor. Maybe lure guy Boucher as the other assistant.

jeedee
06-20-2014, 11:42 PM
I hope they get rid glen gulutzan. .

Canucks already announced they're keeping Gulutzan after they fired Torts and Sullivan

dyan
06-20-2014, 11:48 PM
Canucks already announced they're keeping Gulutzan after they fired Torts and Sullivan

It was to bring desjardins to vancouver :D

bobbinka
06-21-2014, 10:19 AM
Florida named their head coach and it's not Byslma

murd0c
06-21-2014, 10:26 AM
Florida named their head coach and it's not Byslma

it was already reported yesterday since Byslma wanted to much money, pretty funny tho, Pens fire the coach and the best coach left for them is the one they fired hahaaha Vancouver sure fucked them LOL

Speed2K
06-21-2014, 12:01 PM
it was already reported yesterday since Byslma wanted to much money, pretty funny tho, Pens fire the coach and the best coach left for them is the one they fired hahaaha Vancouver sure fucked them LOL

Tortorella is still available! :troll::devil:

AzNightmare
06-21-2014, 12:13 PM
Tortorella is still available! :troll::devil:

Torts is a great coach. He has won a stanley cup before, just like Bylsma...



:troll:

411ken
06-21-2014, 12:18 PM
Canucks season opener is on Oct 8thh vs the flames. The home opener is Oct 11 vs the oilers

RTS
06-21-2014, 02:10 PM
Hiring a coach who is 57 and has no NHL playing or coaching experience is going to be just as good as giving Lou the C back in the day. Why does only Vancouver try these weird things when you had a Stanley Cup winning coach who gets along with Kesler available?

Shark Tank
06-21-2014, 02:31 PM
Hiring a coach who is 57 and has no NHL playing or coaching experience is going to be just as good as giving Lou the C back in the day. Why does only Vancouver try these weird things when you had a Stanley Cup winning coach who gets along with Kesler available?

Exactly why I said Dan Byslma should be hired first and foremost above anyone else. No substitute for Stanley Cup Winning coaches.

Head Coach: Byslma
Assistants: Boucher & Oates

http://i.imgur.com/MvK8YDD.jpg

^
http://i.imgur.com/LqrBnLT.jpg

trancehead
06-21-2014, 04:17 PM
not saying we should hire Guy Boucher, but he looks like someone u wouldnt want to fuck with
http://www.allaboutthehabs.ca/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/f04db048f5a3a1065c7c1aecdb30f7b2.jpg

he will also skull fuck you to boredom:

Philadelphia Flyers wait out the Lightning's trap - YouTube

stuff99
06-22-2014, 02:32 PM
I hope they get rid glen gulutzan. Our pp was so bad with him running it. Like lidster since he played here as familiar with Trevor. Maybe lure guy Boucher as the other assistant.

Sullivan ran it.

pastarocket
06-22-2014, 04:19 PM
Aw yeah, the Rogers schedule for NHL games this upcoming season: :woot2:

Rogers unveils 2014-15 NHL Broadcast Schedule - Sportsnet.ca (http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/rogers-unveils-2014-15-nhl-broadcast-schedule/)

punkwax
06-22-2014, 04:41 PM
Sorry if I missed/am missing something, but all the games that aren't labeled SN, CBC etc are going to be on what channel? Even Canucks.com have left a bunch of games blank.. :confused:

Want to consider what channels I might order as I'm trying to reduce the ol' cable bill :p

OGCStrike
06-22-2014, 09:46 PM
https://twitter.com/sportsnetmurph/status/480940134330683392
:accepted:

EDIT: there we go :P

murd0c
06-22-2014, 09:51 PM
that tweet has been deleted

MG1
06-22-2014, 10:22 PM
^because it's true

cliffhanger33
06-23-2014, 06:01 AM
how canucks must have snagged desjardins over pitts

Matthew Sekeres @mattsekeres
Was just told Desjardins spurned #Pens b/c offer was for 2 years only, no authority to hire own assts. Now expected to be hired by #Canucks

FS1992EG
06-23-2014, 06:29 AM
I'm going to call this, Penguins won't win a cup with Crosby/ Malkin Combo.

7seven
06-23-2014, 06:33 AM
I'm going to call this, Penguins won't win a cup with Crosby/ Malkin Combo.

You mean another cup right? They already won one

68style
06-23-2014, 06:51 AM
Edited for truth:

I'm going to call this, Penguins won't win a cup with Fleury in net.

7seven
06-23-2014, 07:30 AM
One team that has definitely made an offer? Vancouver. I believe it included their first pick in this draft (which is sixth overall) and Hunter Shinkaruk, who was taken 24th in 2013. There was at least one other piece, probably off the main roster, but I can't pin it down. It's not Ryan Kesler, who won't go there.



http://www.cbc.ca/sports-content/hockey/opinion/2014/06/30-thoughts-nhl-free-agents-reluctant-to-commit-early.html

Friedman saying Canucks offered 6th pick + Shinkaruk + another player for 1st overall.

murd0c
06-23-2014, 07:37 AM
no I like shinkaruk

jeedee
06-23-2014, 07:39 AM
not sure how I feel about trading Shinkaruk and possibly Ehlers at #6. Both are potential game changers

... but so are Ekblad and Reinhart at #1

Grandmaster TSE
06-23-2014, 08:08 AM
Desjardin officially named as head coach

Also Hartnell to Columbus for umburger and pick.........damn

murd0c
06-23-2014, 08:08 AM
Flyers trade F Hartnell to Blue Jackets for Umberger (http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=455502)

The Philadelphia Flyers have traded forward Scott Hartnell to the Columbus Blue Jackets in exchange for restricted free agent R.J. Umberger on Monday.

Umberger scored 18 goals and added 16 assists with a minus-3 rating in 74 games with the Blue Jackets in 2013-2014.

The 32-year-old has three years left on his contract with an average annual value of $4.6 million.

Umberger has 169 goals and 197 assists for 366 points in 673 career games with the Blue Jackets and Philadelphia Flyers.

The American was selected by the Vancouver Canucks in the first round (16th overall) of the 2001 NHL Entry Draft.

highfive
06-23-2014, 08:10 AM
not sure how I feel about trading Shinkaruk and possibly Ehlers at #6. Both are potential game changers

... but so are Ekblad and Reinhart at #1

Not sure about Shinkaruk after surgery. I do like his attitude and willingness to win.

But for Ekblad or Reinhart, can't help but think about the player they projected to become and you will see it's worth it.

George Richards ‏@GeorgeRichards 2m

#FlaPanthers Tallon says he doesn't want to drop any farther than eighth in the first round. Let the rumors begin.

just saw this...haha we have a chance...

Iain MacIntyre ‏@imacVanSun 54s

On #Canucks inhouse video on Desjardins, when new coach talks about leaders, no images of Kesler. Really big week.

Hondaracer
06-23-2014, 08:16 AM
Anytime Umbergers name comes up this is all I can think about:

Brian Campbell DESTROYS RJ Umberger (BEST VIDEO) - YouTube

Was watching that game live and I was jumping up and down being like WTFFFF are you kidding me!?!!!!

You can hear it in the announcers voice lol the explosion

6o4__boi
06-23-2014, 08:45 AM
Anytime Umbergers name comes up this is all I can think about:

Brian Campbell DESTROYS RJ Umberger (BEST VIDEO) - YouTube (http://youtu.be/i3Gvfr9GUC0)

Was watching that game live and I was jumping up and down being like WTFFFF are you kidding me!?!!!!

You can hear it in the announcers voice lol the explosion

:lawl::lawl::lawl:
so good, won't be seeing much of that these days.

Blue Jackets win this trade imo.

Jmac
06-23-2014, 08:51 AM
:lawl::lawl::lawl:
so good, won't be seeing much of that these days.

Blue Jackets win this trade imo.
Umberger and Hartnell are pretty equivalent but Umberger is cheaper and has a shorter contract ... Plus CBJ gave up a pick to boot ...

jeedee
06-23-2014, 09:01 AM
https://twitter.com/GeorgeRichards/status/481105855073751040

Wonder if its the 6th overall + Shinkaruk + roster player offer from the Canucks?

6o4__boi
06-23-2014, 09:17 AM
Umberger and Hartnell are pretty equivalent but Umberger is cheaper and has a shorter contract ... Plus CBJ gave up a pick to boot ...

I guess, but i'd still pick Hartnell over Umberger on my team any day.

I'd be ok with a Shinkaruk + 6th + roster player for the 1st.
For all we know Shinkaruk could turn out to be another Schroeder.

The draft day is turning out to be a pretty exciting day.

CRS
06-23-2014, 10:37 AM
Willie Desjardins - New Head Coach - YouTube

Anyone catch the slip at 1:20?

Gumby
06-23-2014, 10:44 AM
What slip? He said "Trevor & Jim".

murd0c
06-23-2014, 11:12 AM
Live: Willie Desjardins Press Conference (June 23, 2014) - YouTube

411ken
06-23-2014, 11:21 AM
Dave Pratt
‏@DavePratt1040 Note to the Pinheads! Multiple sources saying Vancouver/Florida talking trade about 1st pick overall NHL Entry Draft...Stay tuned!!!


take it for what it's worth.. he said deal could involve Shinkaruk + 6th pick + a roster player


then again.. he also said that canucks got Mike Johnston as the new head coach lol...

RiceIntegraRS
06-23-2014, 11:32 AM
id make that deal in a heartbeat.

highfive
06-23-2014, 11:39 AM
He sounds pretty damn encouraging. Compare this to Torts interview last year...I still remember Torts saying clean slate, he knows his problems and that this team needs to get younger because the core is too stale?

Willie on the other hand defends the Sedins, they are elite players, reporter ask again, they are still elite.

Lots to back up this season.

murd0c
06-23-2014, 11:42 AM
He seems like he has a great demeanor and a friendly kind of guy. I was very impressed with his answer's and sounds really excited to be here which is a bonus as well.

trancehead
06-23-2014, 11:52 AM
He sounds pretty damn encouraging. Compare this to Torts interview last year...I still remember Torts saying clean slate, he knows his problems and that this team needs to get younger because the core is too stale?

Willie on the other hand defends the Sedins, they are elite players, reporter ask again, they are still elite.

Lots to back up this season.

they can still be ppg players.
the hope is that if the new coach does bring in a up tempo attack game, then i think it would hide some of the size/grit deficiencies of the twins

Not really racist!
06-23-2014, 12:18 PM
Torts: I know nothing about this conference, the travel, or the players, I just wanted this job so I accepted it aka I didn't do my homework despite being in the league for many years

Willie: I had options and chose the right one. I also happen to have a Masters on Social Work and a teaching degree. Good to know he can work with young players

Day 1 so far so good, 4 days till the draft

b0unce. [?]
06-23-2014, 03:08 PM
Hammer and the rest of Team Canada @ Joe Fortes

https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10511291_10152312910708645_7218123426759620690_n.j pg?oh=8d4945a0b12c9dcc63f5060ccb0a1b45&oe=5410DE47&__gda__=1410282065_91be7a87e9a67354c7f2064a74e78ff 3

https://scontent-b-lax.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/t1.0-9/10410292_10152312910313645_5273346329602000193_n.j pg

https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/t1.0-9/10442412_10152312910633645_1236341481990817489_n.j pg

murd0c
06-23-2014, 03:25 PM
did they close the whole restaurant down for them?

Not really racist!
06-23-2014, 03:42 PM
Bob McKenzie @TSNBobMcKenzie · 1h
Brayden Schenn's new two year deal with PHI pays him $2.25M and $2.75M for an AAV of $2.5M.

Schenn gonna move up and play with Grioux and Jakub, Couturier probably gonna be the 2C

MATURE, RELIABLE EKBLAD NOT EASY TO PASS OVER IN NHL DRAFT

Aaron Ekblad may be the most mature 18-year-old hockey player on the planet.

"Not only does he have a 30-year-old's physique under his equipment but he also thinks and acts like a 10-year NHL vet," said Dan Stewart, scouting director for the independent scouting service Future Considerations.

Ekblad, a two-way, right-shooting defenceman, knows what he wants to be not only in this week's NHL draft but as a professional. He'd love to go No. 1 and continue to mould himself in the images of Shea Weber, Alex Pietrangelo and Duncan Keith.

More than anything, though, the Barrie Colts captain wants to be considered reliable on and off the ice.

"I don't do too many things that are going to surprise anyone," Ekblad said at last month's scouting combine. "I'm going to be the kind of player that you know what you're going to get from me."

Steady and dependable doesn't put butts in seats, but Ekblad isn't touting himself as a flashy kind of player. Instead, and more importantly, he has the potential to develop into a franchise cornerstone.

Because of that, the Belle River, Ont., native is the front-runner to be the top pick Friday night in Philadelphia, whether the Florida Panthers choose to keep it or trade it. Buffalo Sabres general manager Tim Murray said last week he expected Ekblad to go No. 1 regardless.

If that happens, Ekblad would be the first defenceman to be selected with the top pick since Erik Johnson in 2006, and the first Canadian-born blue-liner in that spot since Chris Phillips in 1996.

Ekblad knows it has been a "long time" since a defenceman was drafted first. But it would come as no shock to NHL Central Scouting director Dan Marr.

"Aaron Ekblad is a hard player to go past in the draft, I think, for any of the teams, and they know that," Marr said at the combine. "There doesn't seem to be a will to take a defenceman high because a lot of times you don't get the quick bang for your buck."

Ekblad wants to provide that, just as 2013 No. 4 pick Seth Jones did for the Nashville Predators. "A hundred per cent" he wants to be in the NHL next season, and he told that to all 16 teams that interviewed him.

"That's the way I believe in myself," Ekblad said. "I wouldn't say I'm cocky, but I'm confident and I believe that if I work hard and I do all the little things and pay attention to details, I can be in that league next year."

With that confidence in mind, Ekblad still watched games this past season and recognized the NHL is a hard league to crack and that getting drafted is just a foot in the door.

"It means nothing until you prove that you're ready to do it," he said.

Scouts believe Ekblad is prepared to prove it. In the six-foot-three, 213-pound prospect, Ross MacLean of ISS Hockey, another independent scouting service, sees someone with skills to insulate himself from making mistakes and the maturity to be able to adjust to the next level.

"He's a kid that I think probably could've played in the NHL this year, let alone next year," MacLean said. "I think we saw that with Seth Jones, as well, last year. They've just been put into positions where they've been able to acclimatize and get comfortable and confident and develop their skills at the appropriate pace, and they're ready for the next step."

Typically, there's a learning curve for even the best young defencemen before they can become NHL regulars, let alone stars. But a handful from the top 10 of the 2012 draft, including the Toronto Maple Leafs' Morgan Rielly, Anaheim Ducks' Hampus Lindholm and Columbus Blue Jackets' Ryan Murray, played the full 2013-14 season and showed it may not be as steep as it once was.

During the season, then-Predators and now Washington Capitals coach Barry Trotz theorized that it's because junior hockey has more pro systems designed to help defencemen adapt quicker.

Stewart thinks Ekblad can adjust on the fly because of his awareness. After being given the captaincy in Barrie, Ekblad "was trying to do everything," Stewart said, before recognizing his weaknesses and dialling back to what he's good at.

"He has shown time and time again that he learns from mistakes," Stewart said. "Ekblad is always thinking and while he does make some mistakes from time to time, he also shows an ability to compensate for any situational deficiencies. Because of his slower feet, while defending speedy forwards attacking the zone, he gives himself a little larger gap than say if he were going up against someone he feels he can easily wedge off the puck.

"It's his advanced thinking on the fly and understanding of his position that should benefit him quickly at the next level."

Physically, Ekblad is undoubtedly NHL-ready. After earning exceptional status to play in the OHL at the age of 15, he has gone through three junior seasons in Barrie and held his own at the world junior championship.

Stewart was impressed with how Ekblad handled pressure situations and defensive responsibilities while playing for Canada at the world juniors.

In Barrie, Colts teammate, roommate and best friend Brendan Lemieux — a projected first- or second-round pick in his own right and the son of former NHL agitator Claude Lemieux — saw Ekblad show even more.

"Ek really showed that he was willing to stand up and answer the bell, even with his gloves off. I watched him pound a few guys this year," Lemieux said at the combine. "He might not show that physical presence and how big he is and how tough he can be, but he's a tough guy, too. He's not just a super-skilled big guy, he's a super-skilled big, tough guy."

Ekblad is certainly better known for his 23 goals and 30 assists than his three fights, and it was that offence balanced with defensive acumen that earned him OHL defenceman of the year honours.

It's hard to be upset about that kind of season, but Ekblad insisted he's not satisfied with what he showed scouts.

"That's kind of the way everyone here should be thinking: I believe I can always be better," he said. "You look back on some games, some shifts and (think), 'What if you did this instead of that?' I wouldn't say I have any regrets, per se. I think I had a pretty good year. But there's always things you could've done."

Mature, reliable Ekblad not easy to pass over in NHL Draft (http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=455441)

Ekbald pls

AzNightmare
06-23-2014, 05:28 PM
I'll wait before I make any opinions.
Last summer. There were a bunch of peopel excited about Torts as well.

Torts defended the Sedins too.
Every coach is going to say positive things upon being hired.

:accepted:

Tim Budong
06-23-2014, 06:12 PM
Forgot who said this on 1040, but he makes a good point

a coach in the jr/minor league ranks is all about the teachings of the game, the fact that willie has a degree in education can be valuable for the future.

A head coach in the NHL is more about management, where results have a much bigger impact on the position.

So maybe the canucks are in real rebuild mode? haha

Willie...hah
http://www.quickmeme.com/img/47/47965d22692a0976a3ea518bffef516fbd8ab82cf3940c7dfb d1101af451d15a.jpg

pastarocket
06-23-2014, 06:23 PM
The pieces are falling in place for this team. President. GM, and now coach.

It's time for this franchise to make some noise at the draft!

Tim Budong
06-23-2014, 06:24 PM
So for those looking for icepacks all the way to full season tickets

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enjoy :)

Mike Oxbig
06-23-2014, 07:53 PM
So for those looking for icepacks all the way to full season tickets

Canucks Season Ticket Membership (http://nucksnation.net/membership/)

enjoy :)

No blue line fee required?

7seven
06-23-2014, 08:02 PM
Bob McKenzie's final draft rankings list, based on polling NHL scouts

2014 Final TSN Draft Ranking: 1-15 (http://www.tsn.ca/draftcentre/feature/?id=95289)

1. Ekblad
2. Reinhart
3. Bennett
4. Draisaitl
5. Dal Colle
6. Ritchie
7. Virtanen
8. Fleury
9. Nylander
10. Ehlers

Hondaracer
06-23-2014, 08:16 PM
i think whoever ends up with first, even if it stays with FLA, takes Ekblad.

Mike Oxbig
06-23-2014, 08:20 PM
Florida probably had their eyes on Nylander all year having scouts in europe... suddenly they win the 1st overall :fuckthatshit:

b0unce. [?]
06-24-2014, 04:58 AM
Jesus, I didn't realize this Ekblad kid was 6'4", 217lbs. Kid is huge for an 18 year old :lol

murd0c
06-24-2014, 06:39 AM
and the best part is he's still growing!!

7seven
06-24-2014, 06:52 AM
Ekblad has been a beast so far and most scouts seem to think not only is he already NHL ready, but ready to make an impact. He's been the most anticipated D prospect out of juniors since Doughty, he could be that cornerstone franchise Dman a lot of teams are seeking.

murd0c
06-24-2014, 07:27 AM
So basically we need Benning to work some magic since we need him as a draft pick!!

6o4__boi
06-24-2014, 08:38 AM
I'd still pick Reinhart to be honest.

I don't see why everyone is so high on Ekblad. Personally, I don't think he's worth it as first overall, maybe 2nd or 3rd, top 5. Is it cause he's a Canadian Dman? I remember everyone was so high on Johnson too, to the point where Staal and Toews went 2nd and 3rd. Look at Johnson now. Sure, he's a decent dman but not exactly lliving up to 1st overall. Here's the last few dman drafted first overall:

Erik Johnson - 2006
Chris Phillips - 1996
Bryan Berrard - 1995
Ed Jovanovski - 1994
Roman Hamrlik - 1992

Worth mentioning is Victor Hedman, I remember everyone was so high on him, saying he was a potential franchise dman. He's a decent dman, dependable but I wouldn't go as far as to say he's a franchise cornerstone.

With a few exceptions, notably Doughty/Pietrangelo/Suter, I find that the true stud/franchise dman develop later and are usually picked further down/often overlooked in the draft. The list goes on...Weber, Chara, Lidstrom, Keith, Karlsson, Subban. Hell, everyone was saying Seth Jones was ready for the bigs and he's looked pretty timid in his first year. Too early to say if he'll be a stud dman or not but not exactly NHL ready.

If Canucks somehow land 1st overall, I hope to hell they draft Reinhart. Based on past drafts, the chances of landing a franchise dman is better later in the draft. But hey, this is just my $0.02. I'm curious to see what people who wanna draft Ekblad first have to say.

Hondaracer
06-24-2014, 09:18 AM
If the playoffs of the past years have proved anything, it's basically that you need that stud on the blue line to be successful

Taking a chance on an undersized forward who has skating issues over a potential stud would be the wrong move IMO. Not to mention the pressure on Reinhart to preform will be enormous and he will most likely not live up to expectations

highfive
06-24-2014, 09:25 AM
Problem Canucks have is they are interestd in Reinhart. But they have the dilemma of deciding Ekblad or Reinhart.

Dan Murphy was saying yesterday that a Kesler deal will be done by Friday.

6o4__boi
06-24-2014, 09:32 AM
Yeah but you're already assuming that Ekblad WILL be a stud dman. Just cus he got "exceptional status" doesn't mean that he'll instantly be a stud. Even Tavares took a few years to make an impact.

Big risk big rewards. You don't have to look far to see that. Look at Mackinnon. The Avs opted to go with him over Seth Jones. Undersized forward yes. Only difference is that Mackinnon was a great skater. It's not like Reinhart is terrible at skating, needs improvement definitely but so does every prospect.

How do you know Ekblad won't wilt under pressure either? Sure he's been in a leadership role, but he's still a prospect nonetheless. He's not exactly going to take charge of a Vancouver dressing room laden with veterans.

Yes, we need a stud dman to be successful. Is it Ekblad? I have my doubts. Maybe he'll be the first dman drafted first overall to pan out as a franchise cornerstone but looking at past drafts, the safe pick would be Reinhart.

Ch28
06-24-2014, 10:37 AM
I'd still pick Reinhart to be honest.

I don't see why everyone is so high on Ekblad. Personally, I don't think he's worth it as first overall, maybe 2nd or 3rd, top 5. Is it cause he's a Canadian Dman? I remember everyone was so high on Johnson too, to the point where Staal and Toews went 2nd and 3rd. Look at Johnson now. Sure, he's a decent dman but not exactly lliving up to 1st overall. Here's the last few dman drafted first overall:

Erik Johnson - 2006
Chris Phillips - 1996
Bryan Berrard - 1995
Ed Jovanovski - 1994
Roman Hamrlik - 1992

Worth mentioning is Victor Hedman, I remember everyone was so high on him, saying he was a potential franchise dman. He's a decent dman, dependable but I wouldn't go as far as to say he's a franchise cornerstone.

With a few exceptions, notably Doughty/Pietrangelo/Suter, I find that the true stud/franchise dman develop later and are usually picked further down/often overlooked in the draft. The list goes on...Weber, Chara, Lidstrom, Keith, Karlsson, Subban. Hell, everyone was saying Seth Jones was ready for the bigs and he's looked pretty timid in his first year. Too early to say if he'll be a stud dman or not but not exactly NHL ready.

If Canucks somehow land 1st overall, I hope to hell they draft Reinhart. Based on past drafts, the chances of landing a franchise dman is better later in the draft. But hey, this is just my $0.02. I'm curious to see what people who wanna draft Ekblad first have to say.

http://i.imgur.com/L84juqa.gif

Mike Oxbig
06-24-2014, 10:57 AM
Dman are made to be pick 2nd overall its just a good luck charm... ask pronger and doughty :fuckthatshit:


OEL looking like a franchise dman nowadays as well

AzNightmare
06-24-2014, 11:37 AM
Dman are made to be pick 2nd overall its just a good luck charm... ask pronger and doughty :fuckthatshit:


OEL looking like a franchise dman nowadays as well

lol
#1 overall, Reinhart
#2 overall, Ekblad

Therefore, Ekblad will be a stud. :fullofwin:
So who has the 2nd overall? Let's trade for that instead....


I think based on the fact that many championship teams have a cornerstone Dman,
Canucks might be more willing to gamble for one.

But in the end, they both have equal chance of panning out or not.

radioman
06-24-2014, 12:31 PM
Wait so...

Dont take Ekblad first since he wont pan out and let another team have a stud d man since he gets picked second.

or

Pick Ekblad and have him become mediocre but don't let another team have a stud defencman?

What a decision :derp:

highfive
06-24-2014, 12:44 PM
If we don't follow BPA and look at what the Canucks need the most in the next 5-6 years. It's actually a first line centre. For defence, we still have Tanev, Corrado, Hutton, and Andersson.

Once we lose Henrik to retirement and Kesler through trade, our next top centre would be Horvat. Whether Horvat can become that first line offensive centre is still the question.

Rumour is Kesler is down to two team, Chicago and Anaheim.

Not really racist!
06-24-2014, 01:10 PM
I'd still pick Reinhart to be honest.

I don't see why everyone is so high on Ekblad. Personally, I don't think he's worth it as first overall, maybe 2nd or 3rd, top 5. Is it cause he's a Canadian Dman? I remember everyone was so high on Johnson too, to the point where Staal and Toews went 2nd and 3rd. Look at Johnson now. Sure, he's a decent dman but not exactly lliving up to 1st overall. Here's the last few dman drafted first overall:

Erik Johnson - 2006
Chris Phillips - 1996
Bryan Berrard - 1995
Ed Jovanovski - 1994
Roman Hamrlik - 1992

Worth mentioning is Victor Hedman, I remember everyone was so high on him, saying he was a potential franchise dman. He's a decent dman, dependable but I wouldn't go as far as to say he's a franchise cornerstone.

With a few exceptions, notably Doughty/Pietrangelo/Suter, I find that the true stud/franchise dman develop later and are usually picked further down/often overlooked in the draft. The list goes on...Weber, Chara, Lidstrom, Keith, Karlsson, Subban. Hell, everyone was saying Seth Jones was ready for the bigs and he's looked pretty timid in his first year. Too early to say if he'll be a stud dman or not but not exactly NHL ready.

If Canucks somehow land 1st overall, I hope to hell they draft Reinhart. Based on past drafts, the chances of landing a franchise dman is better later in the draft. But hey, this is just my $0.02. I'm curious to see what people who wanna draft Ekblad first have to say.

There isn't really much to argue about really, since it is based on history

2013: MacKinnon vs Jones - too early to say for Jones since traditionally defenseman adapt significantly slower than forwards
2012: Yakupov vs Murray - not sure anymore after this season, still early for Murray
2011: RNH vs Larsson - RNH easily
2009: Tavares vs Hedman - Tavares easily

Even more goaltenders have gone 1st overall than defenseman since 2000. The only thing you can really say is Ekbald was granted exceptional status in 2011 (2nd to Tavares) and immediately made an impact defensively for the Colts as a 15-year-old and has been hyped as a franchise defenseman for the longest time.

Reinhart has been hyped with a 1C ceiling but not considered a franchise player, slightly lower tier.

If we take Reinhart, I wouldn't wanna be burnt by Ekbald by either EDM or CAL. I feel like if FLA just keeps their pick, they will 100% draft Ekbald, since they passed on BBC last year since 1C > 1D in terms of priority at the time. I also feel like any team that will try to move to #1 will be for Ekbald, not for Reinhart who most likely will be avaliable at #2

Kassian and Tanev got there QOs today as formality (850k, 1.5m)

Mike Oxbig
06-24-2014, 01:37 PM
Ducks and bkackhawks front runner for Kesler.

What do you guys want from them?

10th + etem and TT + hawks 1st?

highfive
06-24-2014, 01:49 PM
@MarkLazerus: Regarding Kesler, I hear the Canucks want Saad or Teravainen in any package. I can't imagine any possibility the #Blackhawks offer either.

Might be saad. It would be epic if we can get saad out of Chicago.

murd0c
06-24-2014, 01:51 PM
I would take TT in a second from the Hawks over etem

Hondaracer
06-24-2014, 02:44 PM
Terevainen, hmm intriguing

Although Kesler to hawks and TT back this way = us waiting for hawks to get old before competing with them again lol

stuff99
06-24-2014, 02:48 PM
It's easier to sign a top pairing D via UFA than a top 6 centre. By the time your D prospect is developed, they'd leave for free agency usually. Forwards are the safer bet for crapshoots.

murd0c
06-24-2014, 02:56 PM
I'm hearing Sharpe is in play from Chicago now

murd0c
06-24-2014, 03:14 PM
What time does the draft start on Friday anyways?

AzNightmare
06-24-2014, 03:25 PM
If we don't follow BPA and look at what the Canucks need the most in the next 5-6 years. It's actually a first line centre. For defence, we still have Tanev, Corrado, Hutton, and Andersson.


We won't have Tanev if we get Reinhart :ifyouknow:

PiuYi
06-24-2014, 03:35 PM
toews and kesler in the same locker room? not a single word will be said all season lol

Grandmaster TSE
06-24-2014, 03:46 PM
We won't have Tanev if we get Reinhart :ifyouknow:

He might not be in play for the 1st pick

highfive
06-24-2014, 03:47 PM
What time does the draft start on Friday anyways?

4PM.

604778
06-24-2014, 04:14 PM
Patrice Bergeron for the NHL 15 cover.

highfive
06-24-2014, 04:33 PM
Linden should seriously consider bringing Igor Larionov back and hire Alyonka as the replacement of Kristin Reed.

Gumby
06-24-2014, 04:36 PM
Linden should seriously consider bringing Igor Larionov back and hire Alyonka as the replacement of Kristin Reed.
What role would Larionov play?

But Alyonka? :ifyouknow:

dbaz
06-24-2014, 04:42 PM
would prefer tt from chicago, instead of whatever could come from the ducks. add on possible trade from first overall and we have 4 young promising centres. reinhart, tt, horvat, gaunce