[BlackV62K2]

Nice to see VGK eliminated LUL

[AzNightmare]

Wow, didn't expect such a short series.

[whitev70r]

Was it earlier this year that the owner called out the star players for their piss poor performance and mailing it in? Seguin included.

[DavidNguyen]

Shocked to see Vegas only win 1 game in the series

Unsure why Lehner got to play over Fleury

[bobbinka]

who would've thought stars would be playing in the finals....

[MG1]

Elvis has left the building.................

[bobbinka]

https://twitter.com/Sportsnet650/status/1305646929838108672

[Jmac]

Was it earlier this year that the owner called out the star players for their piss poor performance and mailing it in? Seguin included.
2 years ago

Seguin is still playing like shit :lawl:

[SkinnyPupp]

You know Stone is mindfucked when he passes off to Stastny on a 2-1 LUL
Still in the Knights' heads LUL

https://twitter.com/ThomasDrance/status/1305707400867885056

[whitev70r]

Laviolette wins the contest of recycled coaches for the job in Washington.

[pastarocket]

Nice to see VGK eliminated LUL


+1. Bye Bye Vegas!

[Jmac]

Laviolette wins the contest of recycled coaches for the job in Washington.
Paying Laviolette more money than they would be paying Trotz if they hadn’t dicked him around.

[spoon.ek9]

bleh, was hoping for Tampa to finish tonight. Oh well, game 6.

[Bouncing Bettys]

https://twitter.com/FriedgeHNIC/status/1306622707719692289

[bobbinka]

https://i.giphy.com/media/KajpERDjOpMcw/giphy.webp

[68style]

Good pickup for TML, big loss for Vancouver

[Obsideon]

I think Manny was a huge reason that Horvat killed it on the dot this playoffs. That's too bad...

[whitev70r]

Why ... is it a promotion? Can't Canucks match with similar offer?

[Sw0op]

It’s a promotion he runs the offence there plus he’s from TO originally

Tough loss but good on him he deserves it

[spoon.ek9]

congrats to Tampa! this should be a decent finals.

[jerche]

I hope Stamkos return to the lineup. It would be interesting if TBL wins the cup without their franchise player.

[Jmac]

I hope Stamkos return to the lineup. It would be interesting if TBL wins the cup without their franchise player.
At this point, Stamkos is definitely behind Kucherov and Hedman, probably behind Vasilevskiy, too.

[Obsideon]

At this point, Stamkos is definitely behind Kucherov and Hedman, probably behind Vasilevskiy, too.

In skill but not in heart, he is the soul of the team and broke his body in the process.
Did he play at all this post-season? Question, will he still be the one hoisting it first? Aren't the rules you have to have played in a post-season game to have your name on the cup?

[whitev70r]

So now Tampa travels to Edmonton in a plane that is bubble wrapped?

[Hondaracer]

So now Tampa travels to Edmonton in a plane that is bubble wrapped?

The conf. Finals were all in Edmonton already

[68style]

Had to make sure a Stanley Cup continues to never be awarded in the city of Toronto :troll:

[Jmac]

In skill but not in heart, he is the soul of the team and broke his body in the process.
Did he play at all this post-season? Question, will he still be the one hoisting it first? Aren't the rules you have to have played in a post-season game to have your name on the cup?
You have to have played in a minimum of 41 games for the winning team during the regular season or in 1 Stanley Cup Final game. The team can petition the league to have other names engraved (e.g. deadline acquisition who gets hurt in the Conference Finals)

[Gumby]

Even if Stamkos doesn’t meet the requirements, the league isn’t going to deny a future Hall of Famer from getting his name on the Cup if TB wins.

[Jmac]

Stamkos played 57 games this season

[Mike Oxbig]

Go Stars.

Stamkos is not playing... if Tampa wins his ring is just as good as Jeremy Lin's with raptors

[pastarocket]

Go Tampa! Cheering for Stamkos and Hedman to hoist Lord Stanley’s cup.

They were a young team back in 2015 when they lost to Chicago in the SCF.

Tampa’s coaching staff has not mentioned whether Stammer will play in the Finals for good reason. We shall see if he does play.

-good to see them back in the Finals. Finish off Dallas, boys! :gun:


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[BlackV62K2]

Go Stars.

Stamkos is not playing... if Tampa wins his ring is just as good as Jeremy Lin's with raptors

Don't think he'll cry about it though

[Obsideon]

Go Stars.

Stamkos is not playing... if Tampa wins his ring is just as good as Jeremy Lin's with raptors

Ouch lol... that's totally different, Lin latched on as a backup's backup for half a season.
Stamkos blood, sweat and tears for 12 years in Tampa, he just had some bad breaks. As Captain I'm sure he helped with showing his teammates some pointers and also for motivational value and experience.

[whitev70r]

Oh my ... Dallas is for real. Tampa cannot lose the SC this time, if they do, they \'re going to be known as the stepsisters at the ball.

[Hondaracer]

Stamkos is like the antithesis of Crosby

Such high hopes early on but almost out of sheer luck has missed out on the biggest moments of his career

[pastarocket]

-good article about all the Canucks player contracts:


https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/breaking-canucks-contracts-outlooks-player/


FYI: The debt recapture from Luongo’s contract is $3.035 million.


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[bobbinka]

Makar takes Calder

[roastpuff]

I don't mind it. We're going to see these two duke it out for the Norris in the next few.

Whoever voted Quinn 3rd (6 people, really??!) I hope you step on Lego pieces.

[bobbinka]

Calder
https://i.redd.it/7fpjna0jwko51.jpg

Vezina
https://i.redd.it/txizw6gwzko51.png

[Expresso]

I don't mind it. We're going to see these two duke it out for the Norris in the next few.

Whoever voted Quinn 3rd (6 people, really??!) I hope you step on Lego pieces.

The voting is brutal. Someone actually voted Blackwood for 2nd place lol.

https://twitter.com/ThomasDrance/status/1308173970747785216

[whitev70r]

well, look on the bright side, it'd be that much harder to sign Markstrom if he won Vezina.

[Jmac]

Makar may have won, but Hughes is fucking 1337.

[Jmac]

I don't mind it. We're going to see these two duke it out for the Norris in the next few.

Whoever voted Quinn 3rd (6 people, really??!) I hope you step on Lego pieces.
There are always homer votes in these things. I mean Fox got a first place vote despite being clearly inferior to Makar and Hughes in every measurable way.

[pastarocket]

I'd rather see Hughes win the Stanley Cup with his teammates AND the Norris trophy in the near future than the Calder trophy.

That is the hardware that all Canucks fans would want Quinn to win.

-can't wait to see Quinn play at his peak.

[Jmac]

That’s a Calder winner and two Calder runner-ups in the past 3 years for anyone counting, which is an extremely impressive feat.

Say what you will about Benning’s garbage cap management, but he nailed the Boeser, Pettersson, and Hughes picks (even though local sports media seems intent on running Boeser out of town).

[highfive]

That’s a Calder winner and two Calder runner-ups in the past 3 years for anyone counting, which is an extremely impressive feat.

Say what you will about Benning’s garbage cap management, but he nailed the Boeser, Pettersson, and Hughes picks (even though local sports media seems intent on running Boeser out of town).

This is why I feel it’s so hard for cdn teams to win. You will always have media trying to be edgy or be different. So they report you differently.

Makes the organization run differently as the fans are swayed by the media.

Everyone has a damn opinion about something on what to do.

As bad as bennings cap management, I don’t know if it’s shitty pro scouting or shitty luck.

Louie - came off 30 goals?
Sutter - healthy for how many seasons then fell off the train?
Gudbranson - everybody thought he was this physical dman we saw in the playoffs.
Baertschi - all that chemistry with bo but concussion is a different animal.
Gagner - came off 50 pts with cbj?
Beagle - player key role in capital cup run.
Ferland - guy can play. Just concussion can affect when you least expect it.

[Jmac]

Eriksson had 60 points (playing with Marchand and Bergeron) and had previous positive experiences with the Sedins. I don't think anyone was expecting him to be as bad as he has been but many saw it as the wrong move at the time as they felt we should've been rebuilding and giving opportunities to young players, but management (Linden and Benning) defended it by saying they wanted to give the Sedins a shot at the playoffs/Cup and they signed Eriksson to play with them. Willie D made sure he did his best to completely derail it. Eriksson played with the Sedins for the first 2 weeks and, while they didn't score much, the Sedins had their best Ozone time, Corsi numbers, and expected goals for all season playing with Eriksson; they ended up playing with Sutter for a bit and then Megna. Megna scored 8 points in 58 games primarily playing with the Sedins on the top line and would go on to play a whopping 9 more NHL games in his career after that. Literally the worst coach ever. After the garbage he pulled on Vrbata the year before and then that, I have no idea how he didn't get shit-canned before the end of the season aside from:
https://content.invisioncic.com/Mnhlcanucks/monthly_2016_03/IMG-20160224-WA0000.jpg.1363fa199d7c9f58506ac0f1795c6e71.jpg

Sutter was just a terrible move from the get go. They had a comparable (arguably superior) player in Bonino who just came off an okay season with 39 points at $1.9M for another 2 seasons and gave up additional assets to Pittsburgh to get Sutter at $3.3M then immediately signed him to a 5 x $4.375M extension with a full NTC until July 2019 (plus limited NTC until 2021) before he even played a game in a Canucks uniform. Sutter's career high at that point was 40 points which he hit 6 years prior to the trade; only 1 more point than the season Bonino just came off (and was getting paid less than half as much to do) ... and only managed a high of 33 between 2010 and the trade to Vancouver. The injuries and Bonino winning a Cup turned an already bad trade into a horrendous one.

They didn't even target Gudbranson; they wanted Demers but he utilized his NTC to reject the trade to Vancouver. I was hopeful Gudbranson would be better but it was pretty clear once he got here that his skating just wasn't up to par and paired with a young Hutton, who they were hoping would get into the rush more when paired with Gudbranson, completely backfired due to Guddy's poor skating. Gave up McCann in the process who was already the better player plus a draft pick.

I liked the Baertschi trade and it's unfortunate injuries derailed a potential middle 6 winger. That's bad luck.

Gagner has been a player that had to play an offensive role or he wouldn't be on the team; Philadelphia put him on waivers and had him play in the AHL for several games just 2 years prior for this exact reason. CBJ used him as a PP specialist, which is fine if that's how the Canucks were going to use him but they never did (he was 8th in PP TOI/GP) and it's not like they had anyone come out of the woodwork to steal that time from him unless they thought Boeser wasn't actually any good? Any way you slice it, bad scouting for sure. They also signed Del Zotto the same summer which was another awful move.

Beagle everyone said too long and too much money. He was a 4th liner for the Capitals even in the playoffs that season (11th of 13 in EV TOI/GP among forwards) and you just don't sign 33-year-old 4th liners to 4-year deals let alone for $3M/year with signing bonuses and NTCs. He was brought in to fill a role already held by an overpaid Sutter. Like it's actually incomprehensibly bad even before he played a game for the Canucks.

Ferland would be a solid deal if he were healthy but he's not. He has had numerous injuries prior including last season, so I would chalk it up to bad luck and bad scouting.

[Liquid_o2]

Pretty much agree with everything above - exactly my thoughts. I think the Sutter and Beagle deals are the worst of them all. Sutter has been overrated his entire career - he is a grinder and penalty killer. You don't pay a 3rd or 4th line center $4+ million to do the job that someone can competently do for $1 to $2 million on a shorter term deal.

And I agree that we already were overpaying Sutter for a certain job, so what did we do? We signed an aging Beagle to do the exact same thing for a long-term deal!

Now they are in a cap crunch and they won't be able to sign players that actually have value and matter to the team because they are weighed down by bad bottom 6 contracts. Free agency has killed this team over the past 5 years. If it wasn't for excellent drafting, we would still be at the bottom of the standings.

[68style]

But Sutter has family pedigree and is a great voice in the room guys :dizzy:

[SumAznGuy]

https://www.espn.in/nhl/story/_/id/29946533/former-player-ryan-kesler-says-there-lack-education-nhl-risks-pain-medications

Interesting read. I am going to try to find the documentary.

[Ch28]

https://www.espn.in/nhl/story/_/id/29946533/former-player-ryan-kesler-says-there-lack-education-nhl-risks-pain-medications

Interesting read. I am going to try to find the documentary.

https://www.tsn.ca/tsn-originals

TSN Original: The Problem of Pain

Playing through injury, sacrificing your body, blocking a shot, fighting to stand up for a teammate. Hockey players are praised for their courage and willingness to withstand pain, and doing whatever it takes to win no matter the cost. Here is the TSN Original: The Problem of Pain.

[bobbinka]

damn kes...

[Jmac]

As someone living with Crohn’s Disease for the past 21 years, I can relate. I still played university level sports and that was tough enough; playing pro hockey with Crohn’s/Colitis is unbelievable. There are days when even golfing or bowling is tough to handle and you end up with a week’s worth of constant pain and fatigue.

[Hondaracer]

I go to the gym where Kes was rehabbing a couple years ago, I give the guy credit he was working there day in day out just to get back on skates. And every time I saw him it was like the most minimal, specialized hip and leg exercises. Guy is a warrior regardless of what you think of him as a person

[68style]

Tbh, medication problems aside, I’d probably work harder at the gym too if it meant getting a $30 million+ contract extension and I had zero other work commitments

[winson604]

I go to the gym where Kes was rehabbing a couple years ago, I give the guy credit he was working there day in day out just to get back on skates. And every time I saw him it was like the most minimal, specialized hip and leg exercises. Guy is a warrior regardless of what you think of him as a person

That's the only Kesler I always thought of during the days when some Canucks fan were getting their hate on. The guy gave it his all for us and it was obvious and yea the divorce wasn't clean and the fact that he comes off and potentially is actually a dick doesn't help but as a fan all I can ask for and expect is just try your hardest for us and whatever happens happens and he did that and I never thought of him differently. It was nice to see him get cheered at the Sedins retirement you can tell it really meant a lot to him.

[Hondaracer]

Tbh, medication problems aside, I’d probably work harder at the gym too if it meant getting a $30 million+ contract extension and I had zero other work commitments

During those latter years though he could have gone on LTIR and still got paid regardless

[68style]

True... though once you’ve had a taste of that you don’t want to give it up at all.

Way harder to find excuses to fly around to all his side chicks when he’s not an active player anymore lolol... never mind the puck bunnies don’t want to bang the hasbeen

[bobbinka]

But if he went on LTIR during those years with us, he may not have gotten the $41mil contract with Anaheim... which he's on LTIR for right now :lol

[Teriyaki]

Money is one thing, but even at that level he definitely seemed like an outlier in his dedication.

One only need to look to JV, younger still in their prime and so much potential to be successful and rake in the millions. Just doesn't seem to care.

[68style]

The work ethic of a lot of players is pretty questionable... guys should all be ripped in the NHL and many are... but for example you see a camera pan over of the VGK dressing room when the Canucks were playing them and half those guys had bellies and small upper bodies etc I was kind of shocked.... but they still handed our asses to us!

[highfive]

Don’t think work ethic equals to rip bodies.

I think it’s tough for jv to play in Vancouver and succeed. Hate to say it but that guy naming them the worst crew ever. Maybe there’s soemthing to it?

Too many distractions in yvr.

[Expresso]

Don’t think work ethic equals to rip bodies.

I think it’s tough for jv to play in Vancouver and succeed. Hate to say it but that guy naming them the worst crew ever. Maybe there’s soemthing to it?

Too many distractions in yvr.

Have the same thoughts on JV. He's too comfortable in Vancouver and still hangs with his old friends all the time. He needs a fresh start some where else and once he does I feel he's going to reach that potential he never would here.

[Ch28]

I go to the gym where Kes was rehabbing a couple years ago, I give the guy credit he was working there day in day out just to get back on skates. And every time I saw him it was like the most minimal, specialized hip and leg exercises. Guy is a warrior regardless of what you think of him as a person

That's the only Kesler I always thought of during the days when some Canucks fan were getting their hate on. The guy gave it his all for us and it was obvious and yea the divorce wasn't clean and the fact that he comes off and potentially is actually a dick doesn't help but as a fan all I can ask for and expect is just try your hardest for us and whatever happens happens and he did that and I never thought of him differently. It was nice to see him get cheered at the Sedins retirement you can tell it really meant a lot to him.

LOVED Kesler the player but wasn't a fan of Kesler the person.

You can tell that a lot of people finally came around and realized he gave his all for this team as shown during the Sedin retirement ceremony.

[Obsideon]

The work ethic of a lot of players is pretty questionable... guys should all be ripped in the NHL and many are... but for example you see a camera pan over of the VGK dressing room when the Canucks were playing them and half those guys had bellies and small upper bodies etc I was kind of shocked.... but they still handed our asses to us!

It looks like hockey players train their bodies very differently from other sports, it's more lower body and core?
Look no further than Ovechkin, he's got a dad bod but he's a beast on the ice.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CFOfZhxVAAAxM-z.jpg

[spoon.ek9]

Having spoken to patients with Crohn's disease, just by looking at their medications as well as the frequency of their visits to emergency, you can tell it is very unpleasant and disruptive to living any sort of normal life. They touched on it in the video and it's true, that is a gigantic conflict of interest for teams to be partnered with private hospitals. If I had no healthcare background such as these players don't, it'd be very easy to mislead, purposely misdiagnose and flat out not tell players about side effects and long term effects.

[6793026]

I stop judging people's body on how healthy they are... Understand hockey players are really crazy with their full body endurance, then I also see these men who are like sticks and they can cycle for 8 hours burning 6000 calories... OMGWTF

[604778]

https://twitter.com/_EPettersson/status/1309680193871556609

[highfive]

Petey gonna move into linden status in Vancouver very soon I feel.

[Jmac]

Happy Sedins' birthday

[Blah_Teggie]

Lol. First Eric Staal gets traded. Today Marc Staal gets traded, is Jordan Staal next?

[pastarocket]

The power play is the difference in this Stanley Cup Final. Seven goals on PP for Tampa. Only one PP goal for Dallas.


Congrats to Tampa!! Stanley Cup champions.

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[spoon.ek9]

congrats to Tampa! the better team definitely won.

c'mon canucks.... just once in our lifetimes. ONCE.

[MG1]

congrats to Tampa! the better team definitely won.

c'mon canucks.... just once in our lifetimes. ONCE.

Been watching them since they joined the NHL. I'm not going to live past 108, so not in my lifetime. :okay:

[SkinnyPupp]

Flashbacks to when people made fun of my "Tampon Bay" jersey, and I had a Manon Rheaume poster on my wall LUL

[68style]

Flashbacks to when people made fun of my "Tampon Bay" jersey, and I had a Manon Rheaume poster on my wall LUL

Both totally justified back then :lol Manon Rheaume was frickin hot!

I remember getting a Canucks jersey in the 80's and thinking I was going to be the coolest kid in school when I wore it the next day and getting absolutely CRUSHED because everyone was dick-riding the Oilers lol... good thing jerseys absorbed tears so well :lol