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sonick
06-12-2019, 06:42 PM
Here we go!

Current odds for Vancouver to win a cup: 40/1
Ottawa Senators: 300/1

EmperorIS
06-12-2019, 06:52 PM
Canucks so good.

RiceIntegraRS
06-12-2019, 07:01 PM
The cherry on top of the cake would be seeing Boston destroy their city

Kilinim
06-12-2019, 07:03 PM
In! Congratulations STL!

MG1
06-12-2019, 07:08 PM
Wow, nobody waited for murd0c?

Not really racist!
06-12-2019, 07:09 PM
Inb4 the lock

spoon.ek9
06-12-2019, 07:24 PM
First page! \o/

Vansterdam
06-12-2019, 07:50 PM
FIRST PAGE

highfive
06-12-2019, 07:58 PM
First page woo go canucks!

Razor Ramon HG
06-12-2019, 08:03 PM
https://i.ibb.co/ykdcZ7k/Capture.png

pastarocket
06-12-2019, 08:06 PM
First page!

Go Canucks go!

Seeing Ratface Marchand cry at the end of game 7 made my day. :lawl:

https://youtu.be/9O9wCNJKkGE

HonestTea
06-12-2019, 08:15 PM
FIRST....

Page!

bobbinka
06-12-2019, 08:15 PM
will we make the playoffs before Eriksson's contract is finished?

Blah_Teggie
06-12-2019, 08:18 PM
In on first page!

Gumby
06-12-2019, 08:20 PM
First?

spoon.ek9
06-12-2019, 08:38 PM
will we make the playoffs before Eriksson's contract is finished?

let's hope there was enough controversy from his interview in Sweden that he gets shipped out instead.

mb_
06-12-2019, 08:40 PM
FIRST PAGE !

tiger_handheld
06-12-2019, 09:08 PM
i thought this thread only started on July 1? no?

sonick
06-12-2019, 09:14 PM
i thought this thread only started on July 1? no?

Last year was created right after the cup final ended as well.

vash13
06-12-2019, 09:23 PM
Go Canucks go!

snowball
06-12-2019, 09:53 PM
Many people will disagree but I'll take Lucic for Eriksson. Yeah they have equally bad contracts but Lucic still has some potential, he has spirit that our team is lacking, and we're going to suck ass for the next 4 years anyway. Honestly, is any one else gonna take Eriksson's contract for the next 3 years?

SkinnyPupp
06-12-2019, 10:22 PM
If The Blues can do it, so can The Canucks! Go Canucks! PogChamp

AzNightmare
06-12-2019, 11:25 PM
First page?

Meh... don't really care Bruins lost.
It's more annoying knowing they have been competitive this whole time and were able to make 2 more appearances in the finals...
and where are the Canucks?

I guess laughing at Toronto and Boston is the best we can do now.........................

bobbinka
06-12-2019, 11:34 PM
First page?

Meh... don't really care Bruins lost.
It's more annoying knowing they have been competitive this whole time and were able to make 2 more appearances in the finals...
and where are the Canucks?

I guess laughing at Toronto and Boston is the best we can do now.........................

https://i.imgur.com/VtNvJv2.gif

urrh
06-12-2019, 11:59 PM
canucks aren't in the playoff picture right now but i'll take that rat crying for the time being

Tim Budong
06-13-2019, 12:22 AM
first page?
hmm

damn nope!
oh well

we get a new jersey this year

SkinnyPupp
06-13-2019, 12:31 AM
It looks like they are planning to scrap the VANCOUVER on the current jersey, but IMO they should get rid of the fish logo

sonick
06-13-2019, 04:57 AM
Gotta say, I am not sad for the Bruins hearing how devastated they were after this loss:

"Brad Marchand fights back tears as Bruins players reflect on Stanley Cup loss" https://twitter.com/i/events/1139043494222110720

https://twitter.com/ConorRyan_93/status/1139027258176417793

https://twitter.com/mattyports/status/1139013424153792512

https://twitter.com/HackswithHaggs/status/1139022987611529218

https://giphy.com/gifs/jack-nicholson-nodding-anger-management-S3Ot3hZ5bcy8o

whitev70r
06-13-2019, 06:56 AM
^ good!

On another note, thots on Lucic and Ericsson swap? I say, why not? Can't be worst than it is now.

mb_
06-13-2019, 07:21 AM
^ good!

On another note, thots on Lucic and Ericsson swap? I say, why not? Can't be worst than it is now.

I'm on the "why not" train too. Not the best move to make but I don't think it's the worst either. At least Lucic can bring energy to the team lol.

68style
06-13-2019, 07:27 AM
Fuck you Bruins, nothing makes me happier than seeing that pissant Marchand with his lip trembling

Try playing the right way and being a real leader like ROR

HonestTea
06-13-2019, 07:32 AM
Posted this in the old thread but it’s amazing to see the Bruins suffer a devastating SCF game 7 loss AT HOME. Even better with Marchand crying at the end. BEAUTIFUL!

punkwax
06-13-2019, 08:04 AM
I’m down with Lucic as well if nothing else he’ll step up if anyone messes w Petey.

Groot
06-13-2019, 08:07 AM
But did they riot tho?

highfive
06-13-2019, 08:34 AM
Lucic no good unless he can waive the nmc for the Seattle expansion. If not we can’t protect one young core pc.

AzNightmare
06-13-2019, 01:37 PM
Gotta say, I am not sad for the Bruins hearing how devastated they were after this loss:

"Brad Marchand fights back tears as Bruins players reflect on Stanley Cup loss" https://twitter.com/i/events/1139043494222110720


I don't get it... you've already experienced the dream.

I understand if you've never won it before, but these comments just seem to hold less value to me knowing that him and Bergeron are already Cup winners from the past.

I guess you can never win enough, but meh. First championship is always the sweetest. Maybe I'm just saying that because I'm still waiting for the Canucks first one...

winson604
06-13-2019, 02:02 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aU-tC5LztL8

The Orca looks wack but the new stick in rink however.

68style
06-13-2019, 02:19 PM
I like the stick in rink logo, but I hate those thick green stripes

Bouncing Bettys
06-13-2019, 03:07 PM
I like the new orca with a touch more blue, especially with the Vancouver gone. Never understood the love for the rink from anyone who isn't an OG fan. The rink was too basic, but the colour schemes they adopted from it were much better than the original orca colours.

winson604
06-13-2019, 03:29 PM
Here's a better pic also including the 50 in there and the skate.

AzNightmare
06-13-2019, 05:05 PM
Those thick green stripes look weird to me without any sort of white in there to give it some contrast.

bobbinka
06-13-2019, 05:47 PM
yikes, who came up with and approved the 3rd?

Mike Oxbig
06-13-2019, 06:20 PM
Those thick green stripes look weird to me without any sort of white in there to give it some contrast.

they will probably update it in a few seasons

punkwax
06-13-2019, 06:26 PM
Won a playoff pool. Here’s my prize:

https://i.imgflip.com/33fcyg.jpg (https://imgflip.com/i/33fcyg)

:buttrock:

SkinnyPupp
06-13-2019, 07:04 PM
Here's a better pic also including the 50 in there and the skate.
Put the rink logo on the whale jersey, and you have a winner SeemsGood

JesseBlue
06-15-2019, 08:01 AM
Put ek65 on that ugly 3rds and I'll learn to love it

whitev70r
06-15-2019, 08:45 AM
Won a playoff pool. Here’s my prize:

:buttrock:

If you won it for this year's NHL playoffs .. you must be either a genius or someone who knows nothing about hockey and just guessed using darts.

punkwax
06-15-2019, 09:17 AM
Why, thank you.

Jmac
06-15-2019, 12:53 PM
Phaneuf bought out

https://youtu.be/E5YkqHD7uFo
https://youtu.be/QPimLc42EGk
https://youtu.be/WKUaTb5R-sw

whitev70r
06-15-2019, 02:17 PM
Phaneuf bought out



Dubas ... go and get him back for $1m a yr.

Still remember the hoopla of signing him to a long term contract ... I thought to myself ... wth were you thinking Leafs?!

spoon.ek9
06-15-2019, 05:29 PM
dunno if this link will work but:

https://scontent.fyvr4-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/64440971_2290922581000871_1776218037754527744_n.jp g?_nc_cat=106&_nc_ht=scontent.fyvr4-1.fna&oh=5618b25aa969c0064d3b50c984daadd8&oe=5D83F313

whitev70r
06-17-2019, 07:29 AM
Hmmm ... a bit too much, a bit too long. i see a buyout in the future. I see a Phaneuf type of buyout in year 6 or 7.

Karlsson re-signing with Sharks on eight-year deal. (https://www.tsn.ca/all-signs-point-to-erik-karlsson-re-signing-with-san-jose-sharks-1.1323805)

According to TSN Hockey Insiders Pierre LeBrun and Bob McKenzie, the San Jose Sharks have reached an eight-year contract with the defenceman which will be worth roughly $11.5 million per season - making him the league's third-highest paid player.

mb_
06-17-2019, 07:51 AM
Hmm I think for EK65, that's worth it. I would consider him another level type of player compared to Phaneuf. IMO Phaneuf had potential early on in his career but he was never able to live up to the hype he had when he was in juniors. They also play a different kind of game.

whitev70r
06-17-2019, 10:24 AM
Dallas Eakin returns to NHL head coaching with the Ducks.

https://www.tsn.ca/anaheim-ducks-name-dallas-eakins-head-coach-1.1323934

pastarocket
06-17-2019, 10:58 AM
What do you guys think about Benning contacting Jake Gardiner and Tyler Meyer's agent about the d-men's availability?

Gardiner and Tyler Mylers are on JB's radar.

https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/canucks-expected-mix-gardiner-myers-free-agency/

highfive
06-17-2019, 01:44 PM
Myers is coming here I bet. Benning was the one who shouted him in buffalo lol

spoon.ek9
06-17-2019, 02:10 PM
there was talk on the radio about the canucks and edler. they still haven't reached an agreement which would suggest there's something both parties aren't willing to compromise on. edler obviously wants to stay and the canucks do want him in this organization. the best guess here is that canucks want don't want to offer protection from the expansion draft for edler. as an organization, it's logical to deny such protection for a player that is well into his final years (despite our emotional attachment).

it wouldn't be surprising to see 2-3 new defensemen for next season.

Jmac
06-17-2019, 04:30 PM
People act like Gardiner and Myers aren’t going to want NMCs for the expansion draft.

Edler wants 3 x $6M with an NMC. I’ll take that all day every day over Gardiner or Myers at 6 x $6M with an NMC (at least for the first couple of seasons).

Benning hands out these garbage contracts to garbage players like Sbisa, Gudbranson, Eriksson, Beagle, Sutter, etc. with next to no negotiation then plays hardball with actual good core players already on the team like Horvat, Tanev, Boeser, and Edler. It’s fucking ridiculous

Razor Ramon HG
06-17-2019, 04:33 PM
there was talk on the radio about the canucks and edler. they still haven't reached an agreement which would suggest there's something both parties aren't willing to compromise on. edler obviously wants to stay and the canucks do want him in this organization. the best guess here is that canucks want don't want to offer protection from the expansion draft for edler. as an organization, it's logical to deny such protection for a player that is well into his final years (despite our emotional attachment).

it wouldn't be surprising to see 2-3 new defensemen for next season.

If Edler leaves, the last member of the 2011 playoff roster (not really counting Tanev) will have all moved on.

Time flies by. Still feels like yesterday.

Hondaracer
06-17-2019, 04:46 PM
If elder walks Jb should be fired.

What is that, the 3rd or 4th asset that has walked for nothing?

Jmac
06-17-2019, 04:52 PM
If elder walks Jb should be fired.

What is that, the 3rd or 4th asset that has walked for nothing?

Vrbata for nothing after a 30-goal season
Hamhuis for nothing as a top 4 dman
Miller for nothing as the team’s starting goalie
Edler for nothing as the team’s best defenseman

murd0c
06-17-2019, 08:18 PM
fuck yes my buddy won tickets for the draft on Friday and I is can't wait

RiceIntegraRS
06-17-2019, 09:13 PM
People act like Gardiner and Myers aren’t going to want NMCs for the expansion draft.

Edler wants 3 x $6M with an NMC. I’ll take that all day every day over Gardiner or Myers at 6 x $6M with an NMC (at least for the first couple of seasons).

Benning hands out these garbage contracts to garbage players like Sbisa, Gudbranson, Eriksson, Beagle, Sutter, etc. with next to no negotiation then plays hardball with actual good core players already on the team like Horvat, Tanev, Boeser, and Edler. It’s fucking ridiculous

Myers? No way. For the right price id sign Gardiner. But out of alll the rumours circling i would probably want Colin Miller and Shayne Gostisbhere. Colin Miller being the guy that i can see being as easily obtainable.

AzNightmare
06-17-2019, 09:31 PM
Vrbata for nothing after a 30-goal season
Hamhuis for nothing as a top 4 dman
Miller for nothing as the team’s starting goalie
Edler for nothing as the team’s best defenseman

Hamhuis' situation was trash though, Aquallini was was being petty and nixed the trade.

JesseBlue
06-17-2019, 09:36 PM
Myers at 4 mil sure. No thanks to Gardiner. But rather have edler for 6

6thGear.
06-17-2019, 10:44 PM
Too bad Canucks weren't in a position to trade for Trouba

Jmac
06-18-2019, 12:27 AM
Myers at 4 mil sure. No thanks to Gardiner. But rather have edler for 6

Myers? No way. For the right price id sign Gardiner. But out of alll the rumours circling i would probably want Colin Miller and Shayne Gostisbhere. Colin Miller being the guy that i can see being as easily obtainable.

https://twitter.com/DhaliwalSports/status/1140726656954331136

68style
06-18-2019, 09:07 AM
I would not consider either of those dmen for 6-7 million... forget it...

The only thing Myers is consistent at is being totally inconsistent, he also plays like he's 5'7" not 6'7"

Karlsson isn't worth $11.5 either, he is so overhyped... what teams has he helped win anything in his career? Puts up points in the regular season... and then gets a leg injury every playoffs... there was an interesting article on the Athletic discussing what Marner's contract as well as what a contract for Binnington would look like with a lack of comparables (Matt Murray being the closest one) and doing an analysis on their WAR and value added to the team and the numbers were quite insightful into what a player is actually "worth" and also factored in their age and what their RFA eligibility was in relation to that, etc.

Long story short, teams overpaying for guys who just do not have the same amount of impact that their salary dollars are suggesting they do are going to be in a lot of trouble in the future. This all started with Dumbass in Toronto being quoted saying it was "okay" to overpay Nylander about a mill a season... it's gonna come back to bite him huge down the road nevermind the fact the Leafs had absolutely zero actual need for him as a player with their forward group.

bobbinka
06-18-2019, 10:37 AM
Winnipeg shopping ehlers??

Bouncing Bettys
06-18-2019, 01:14 PM
This all started with Dumbass in Toronto being quoted saying it was "okay" to overpay Nylander about a mill a season... it's gonna come back to bite him huge down the road nevermind the fact the Leafs had absolutely zero actual need for him as a player with their forward group.
You mean Dubas? I could be wrong, but I don't recall him ever saying that. He did say he would never trade Nylander as long as he GM, which many criticized him for.

highfive
06-18-2019, 01:35 PM
People act like Gardiner and Myers aren’t going to want NMCs for the expansion draft.

Edler wants 3 x $6M with an NMC. I’ll take that all day every day over Gardiner or Myers at 6 x $6M with an NMC (at least for the first couple of seasons).

Benning hands out these garbage contracts to garbage players like Sbisa, Gudbranson, Eriksson, Beagle, Sutter, etc. with next to no negotiation then plays hardball with actual good core players already on the team like Horvat, Tanev, Boeser, and Edler. It’s fucking ridiculous

I'm lost. Radio keep saying you don't need to protect Eriksson but his contract runs to 21-22. do we need to protect him? I thought the whole point of lucic and eriksson didn't work cuz of lucic's extra year?

Sutter will be gone by then, who do we protect by Seattles draft?

whitev70r
06-18-2019, 01:51 PM
You mean Dubas? I could be wrong, but I don't recall him ever saying that. He did say he would never trade Nylander as long as he GM, which many criticized him for.

Dumbest promise ever ... say that you had your shoe laces crossed or fingers crossed behind your back when you made that promise and trade/give Nylander away ... get some cap space and sign Marner.

68style
06-18-2019, 02:31 PM
You mean Dubas? I could be wrong, but I don't recall him ever saying that. He did say he would never trade Nylander as long as he GM, which many criticized him for.

I'm trying to find it, I know I read it... try again later tonight... :badpokerface:

68style
06-18-2019, 02:32 PM
I'm lost. Radio keep saying you don't need to protect Eriksson but his contract runs to 21-22. do we need to protect him? I thought the whole point of lucic and eriksson didn't work cuz of lucic's extra year?

Sutter will be gone by then, who do we protect by Seattles draft?

It's cuz Eriksson's contract loses its full NTC in the last 2 years, so he can be moved in 20-21 whereas Lucic's contract is full NTC up until 21-22

Jmac
06-18-2019, 03:15 PM
I'm lost. Radio keep saying you don't need to protect Eriksson but his contract runs to 21-22. do we need to protect him? I thought the whole point of lucic and eriksson didn't work cuz of lucic's extra year?

Sutter will be gone by then, who do we protect by Seattles draft?
We don’t need to protect Eriksson. We would need to protect Lucic (unless he waives his NMC for the expansion draft).

Jmac
06-18-2019, 03:18 PM
It's cuz Eriksson's contract loses its full NTC in the last 2 years, so he can be moved in 20-21 whereas Lucic's contract is full NTC up until 21-22
NTC is irrelevant to the expansion draft. It’s the NMC that requires protection.

highfive
06-19-2019, 01:54 PM
Edler is apparenlty back for 3 years now at $5.5 per.

3rd year he will not be protected for the expansion draft.

whitev70r
06-19-2019, 02:12 PM
Uh oh ... Luongo to inform Panthers of plans

https://www.tsn.ca/roberto-luongo-to-inform-florida-panthers-of-intentions-for-next-season-1.1325340

TSN's Hockey Insider Bob McKenzie adds that the Vancouver Canucks, Luongo's former team, and the Panthers would be hit with cap recapture penalties over the next three years if Luongo does decide to retire.

https://twitter.com/TSNBobMcKenzie/status/1141459656197517312

whitev70r
06-19-2019, 02:18 PM
NHL Awards tonight. https://www.nhl.com/fans/nhl-awards-event

Good thing playoffs don't count ... Pettersson vs. Binnington for the Calder ... Pettersson should win this.

Spoon
06-19-2019, 02:24 PM
Seriously, you think he cares about the Calder when he's got a championship ring? FailFish

highfive
06-19-2019, 03:08 PM
https://twitter.com/Canucks/status/1141482156063166464

Petey's dad with a Canadian! lol

Kilinim
06-19-2019, 04:14 PM
Fuck yes!

Jmac
06-19-2019, 04:14 PM
https://twitter.com/TSNBobMcKenzie/status/1141498672460574721

highfive
06-19-2019, 04:25 PM
Petey with a tribute to Botch. What a guy! How can you not be a fan of him?

spoon.ek9
06-19-2019, 05:02 PM
Seriously, you think he cares about the Calder when he's got a championship ring? FailFish

it's more about us as fans wanting Petey to win it. obviously Binnington doesn't give a shit lol.

Gumby
06-19-2019, 06:21 PM
Canucks players also miss out on awards due to bad luck or at the last minute (e.g. Boeser falling out of Calder contention because of injury, and Naslund losing Art Ross to Forsberg).

Edit: holy cow, Petersson’s dad looks like an older brother!

Jmac
06-19-2019, 06:23 PM
McDavid: The NHL's Jimbo Jones

https://twitter.com/SportsReUp/status/1141502510684917765

https://deadhomersociety.files.wordpress.com/2013/06/thehomertheyfall4_thumb.png
https://i.gifer.com/Rh2C.gif

Razor Ramon HG
06-19-2019, 06:43 PM
Last Canuck to win a Calder was Bure.. I got a good feeling :fuckyea:

bobbinka
06-19-2019, 09:35 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pynI4ccdNxI

spoon.ek9
06-20-2019, 05:53 AM
Edler is apparenlty back for 3 years now at $5.5 per.

3rd year he will not be protected for the expansion draft.

source?

XplicitLuder
06-20-2019, 06:35 AM
2yrs 6m aav per Canucks fb

shawnly1000
06-20-2019, 06:40 AM
Vancouver Canucks Re-Sign Defenceman Alex Edler
(https://www.nhl.com/canucks/news/vancouver-canucks-alex-edler/c-307916784)

cdizzle_996
06-20-2019, 07:21 AM
Better then 5.5 x4

Jmac
06-20-2019, 08:32 AM
Edler could’ve easily got $20-$25M somewhere else. Took a huge paycut to stay.

spoon.ek9
06-20-2019, 10:32 AM
anyone going to the event for Botchford tonight?

whitev70r
06-20-2019, 11:55 AM
Zinged ! NHL Awards last night.

https://twitter.com/PeteBlackburn/status/1141498881877979136

highfive
06-20-2019, 12:58 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D9iClL8U8AAoJxk.jpg:large

I wonder if any of them will drop to 10?

murd0c
06-20-2019, 01:52 PM
One of them will, there will always a be a surprise no one expects.

bobbinka
06-20-2019, 07:16 PM
https://www.tsn.ca/peter-chiarelli-in-talks-to-join-vancouver-canucks-front-office-1.1326188

i guess lucic would complete the reunion

spoon.ek9
06-20-2019, 07:37 PM
but why :suspicious:

Jmac
06-20-2019, 08:04 PM
DEFCON 2

whitev70r
06-20-2019, 09:31 PM
https://www.tsn.ca/peter-chiarelli-in-talks-to-join-vancouver-canucks-front-office-1.1326188

i guess lucic would complete the reunion

JB, I know you feel a bit of debt to him for giving you a chance but he was fired from Edmonton for a reason. Don't do it ...

6thGear.
06-21-2019, 05:35 AM
https://www.tsn.ca/peter-chiarelli-in-talks-to-join-vancouver-canucks-front-office-1.1326188

i guess lucic would complete the reunion

Oh HELL NO:heckno::heckno: I understand old colleagues will help each other out for a job but JB needs to use his head.


on another note. Sad to hear
https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/lightnings-ryan-callahan-suffers-career-ending-back-injury/

highfive
06-21-2019, 09:24 AM
https://twitter.com/adater/status/1142116477870305281?s=21


Fucking stupid if jb does this. Barrie Ufa next season anyways.

68style
06-21-2019, 10:14 AM
We're going to be the sequel to the Oilers aren't we? FailFish

mb_
06-21-2019, 10:18 AM
https://twitter.com/adater/status/1142116477870305281?s=21


Fucking stupid if jb does this. Barrie Ufa next season anyways.

It'll probably be a sign and trade IF it happens

TjAlmeida
06-21-2019, 10:35 AM
Unless the 1st round pick is conditional to Barrie resigning. I still think it would be an overpayment.

highfive
06-21-2019, 11:27 AM
We're going to be the sequel to the Oilers aren't we? FailFish

More like sequel to oilers and sens. Trade away a lottery pick. Watch the only time the Canucks ever win the lottery it was traded away lol

murd0c
06-21-2019, 11:58 AM
all I know is the draft tonight is going to be so exciting

roastpuff
06-21-2019, 12:19 PM
I'll be at the draft tonight. Let's hope something exciting happens!

nabs
06-21-2019, 12:36 PM
was looking at tickets to the draft, they are not cheap. lol. we thought it would be a great random outing with friends, but didn't expect those prices.

Bouncing Bettys
06-21-2019, 12:41 PM
Closest I'll possibly be getting to the draft is the post draft Steve Dangle meet up at the Regal Beagle on Saturday.

Hondaracer
06-21-2019, 12:55 PM
was looking at tickets to the draft, they are not cheap. lol. we thought it would be a great random outing with friends, but didn't expect those prices.

Best bet will be Craigslist an hour or so before or scalpers out front

murd0c
06-21-2019, 01:56 PM
my buddy won tickets from renewing his Giants season tickets. I shall be heading out to the draft really soon and can't wait.

pastarocket
06-21-2019, 02:08 PM
https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/p-k-subban-drawing-trade-interest-canadian-teams/

No way, JB is inquiring about the availability of PK? Subban coming to the west coast? :suspicious:

punkwax
06-21-2019, 02:14 PM
Ya I was bummed I forgot to be home to buy draft tix when they were released and got the reminder on my phone in the middle of the Massey tunnel. By the time I pulled over to get them they were already sold out. Wanted to bring my boy but no chance I’m helping some scalper profit 5-6x what they paid..

roastpuff
06-21-2019, 02:23 PM
was looking at tickets to the draft, they are not cheap. lol. we thought it would be a great random outing with friends, but didn't expect those prices.

STM here so, paid face value for them.

whitev70r
06-21-2019, 03:17 PM
For those of you who are attending, don't forget to BOO your lungs out for Buttman.

Bouncing Bettys
06-21-2019, 03:23 PM
For those of you who are attending, don't forget to BOO your lungs out for Buttman.
not so fast
On Overdrive they asked him if he was expecting to be booed and he responded with I think I will have something to turn the boos into cheers.

xxxrsxxx
06-21-2019, 03:47 PM
Team 1040 just said nux have an announcement to make

spoon.ek9
06-21-2019, 04:27 PM
November: Burrows, ring of honour

February: Sedins retirement ceremony

highfive
06-21-2019, 04:38 PM
Lol burkie, I know you like big d. Hahaha

bobbinka
06-21-2019, 05:04 PM
do we take Boldy?

RiceIntegraRS
06-21-2019, 05:06 PM
i think i want Caufield

Mike Oxbig
06-21-2019, 05:08 PM
Canucks are pissed Ducks taking Zegras

pastarocket
06-21-2019, 05:14 PM
Brian Burke said that we got a steal with this Russian kid:

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190622/bc527ed2b47604bcc8ca4b34e2e3938f.jpg


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Mike Oxbig
06-21-2019, 05:21 PM
Kid's a pitbull, aggressive two way player who plays with an edge

highfive
06-21-2019, 05:30 PM
I guess with this pick it makes virtanen expendable.

spoon.ek9
06-21-2019, 05:37 PM
Virtanen honestly hasn't proven a whole lot. Was he ever untouchable?

68style
06-21-2019, 05:45 PM
Surprised how far Caufield fell

Jmac
06-21-2019, 05:54 PM
I guess with this pick it makes virtanen expendable. He has another 2 years left on his KHL contract and Benning even said he’s 2 years away.

punkwax
06-21-2019, 06:48 PM
Brian Burke said that we got a steal with this Russian kid:

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190622/bc527ed2b47604bcc8ca4b34e2e3938f.jpg


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Yep Burkie said if it wasn’t for the contract he’d be a top 5 pick. Also heard there’s a chance he can get out of his contract in 1 year.

In Benning We Trust



At the draft..



For the most part.

Fingers crossed we don’t regret passing on Caufield.

punkwax
06-21-2019, 06:58 PM
:notbad:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Mrtc2JWvHGU

MG1
06-21-2019, 07:02 PM
Two years is a long time. A lot can happen............ like a career ending injury. Canuck Luck. Team cannot catch a break............ 50 years already? Really looking forward to watching the next 50 years. Wait........... nvm. 50 years of patience.

punkwax
06-21-2019, 07:15 PM
I’ve heard the Canucks are working to get Tryamkin back and wonder if this is part of the strategy.

Acurapinoy
06-21-2019, 07:21 PM
Two years is a long time. A lot can happen............ like a career ending injury. Canuck Luck.

Are you saying that any other pick besides Pod cannot get injured? Who knows maybe they can get him out of his contract after 1 year

RiceIntegraRS
06-21-2019, 07:37 PM
I’ve heard the Canucks are working to get Tryamkin back and wonder if this is part of the strategy.

I wouldnt mind that strategy. GMJB did have a good point, whoever we drafted was atleast 1-2 years away from making it to the big club anyways. Also theres a small possibility that we can negotiate with his KHL team to get him out of his contract a year early. I really wanted Caufield but the reality has sunk and im now liking this pick alittle more. The one thing that scares me is that we seem like we dont give Russians a fair shake. Last russian i remember Canucks treated well was Artem Chubarov

spoon.ek9
06-21-2019, 07:41 PM
:notbad:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Mrtc2JWvHGU

#23 really likes to jump

EuterVanWasser
06-21-2019, 09:07 PM
I’ve heard the Canucks are working to get Tryamkin back and wonder if this is part of the strategy.

I said right away when I saw the pick, that getting a highly skilled Russian forward can't hurt the chances of sweet talking Tryamkin back and making Goldobin feel more comfortable in Vancouver too.

Not that I think Goldy is a huge part of the decision though... if anything, this makes Goldy even more expendable in a trade.

whitev70r
06-21-2019, 10:02 PM
Was like watching paint dry. One of the most uneventful and boring draft days ever.

This was the night's highlight ... good job y'all who were there!

https://twitter.com/RobTheHockeyGuy/status/1142223347939307520

Hondaracer
06-21-2019, 10:51 PM
So min 2 years till he gets here, 3rd year is a feeler in the NHL, 4th year, 2023 the best you can hope for is a sophomore Boeser Type season?

What in the fuck are we thinkinggggggg...and that’s best case scenario thinking that St.petersburg doesn’t offer him crazy money and he just stays there and we wasted a first round pick. You’d hope JB is confident enough in their discussions that that wouldn’t be the case but man, how can you know

Ch28
06-21-2019, 11:26 PM
So min 2 years till he gets here, 3rd year is a feeler in the NHL, 4th year, 2023 the best you can hope for is a sophomore Boeser Type season?

What in the fuck are we thinkinggggggg...and that’s best case scenario thinking that St.petersburg doesn’t offer him crazy money and he just stays there and we wasted a first round pick. You’d hope JB is confident enough in their discussions that that wouldn’t be the case but man, how can you know

Most guys in that draft range were easily 1-2 years from being NHL ready anyways. At least from this perspective, Podkolzin will avoid that cancerous Trent Cull in the AHL and develop in the KHL

Sw0op
06-22-2019, 08:05 AM
Most guys in that draft range were easily 1-2 years from being NHL ready anyways. At least from this perspective, Podkolzin will avoid that cancerous Trent Cull in the AHL and develop in the KHL

This^^

Anyone you pick in that range is going to need at least 2-3 years before stepping in to the nhl and with our player development in the ahl, let the guy develop in the 2nd best league against men. Worry about the contract negotiations later let the guy play and develop. Can’t fault management for taking bpa

punkwax
06-22-2019, 09:08 AM
Subban to the Devils.

https://www.tsn.ca/nashville-predators-trade-pk-subban-to-new-jersey-devils-1.1326920

sonick
06-22-2019, 09:15 AM
JT Miller to Canucks for picks

https://twitter.com/benkuzma/status/1142480513912823808

https://twitter.com/ryanbiech/status/1142480266121715712

whitev70r
06-22-2019, 09:23 AM
Marleau to Canes ... hmmm.

Wow ... Subban getting bounced around the league.

punkwax
06-22-2019, 09:41 AM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4aGPbvUUYm4

Canucks’ 2nd rounder.

RiceIntegraRS
06-22-2019, 09:41 AM
JT Miller to the canucks

mj_39
06-22-2019, 10:03 AM
Giving up a 1st next year or the year after... WTF

Tampa is also up against the cap. I don’t mind JT Miller but giving up a 1st...

whitev70r
06-22-2019, 10:04 AM
^ why ?? Do the Canucks really need another forward? J.T. Miller at $5.25M/yr ??!!
And for conditional 1st round next year ??!! Just when you think JB was doing well ... he pulls a Jay Beagle 2.0 ... but worst.

Jmac
06-22-2019, 10:05 AM
Fucking Benning. We paid more for JT Miller than New Jersey paid for Subban

F3
06-22-2019, 10:06 AM
https://twitter.com/BatchHockey/status/1142487328515973125
Why would you give up a first and a third to help TB dump salary? FailFish

RiceIntegraRS
06-22-2019, 10:11 AM
WTF is Benning doing?

68style
06-22-2019, 10:15 AM
Sigh........ should be starting out at “you give us JT Miller for 5th and we won’t offer sheet Point you fucks” as a starting point and go from there... 2 picks+????

Where is Benning’s sack???

mb_
06-22-2019, 10:42 AM
Godamnit lol, don't mind JT Miller but I think Benning gave up too much for him

Jmac
06-22-2019, 10:48 AM
We basically made the Duchene trade that Ottawa made except we didn’t get a player even remotely close to Duchene

Infiniti
06-22-2019, 12:20 PM
Oh Benning..Yeah, thats enough draft talk for one weekend. See y'all on Monday!

AzNightmare
06-22-2019, 12:47 PM
I guess Benning is very desperate to make it to playoffs now, his job is on the line.

Sw0op
06-22-2019, 01:04 PM
I’m not a fan of the trade... a rebuilding team nowhere near cup contention should be retaining 1st round picks...but then again if the oilers taught us anything in the past 10 years....

trip
06-22-2019, 03:12 PM
fucking moron

highfive
06-22-2019, 04:20 PM
WTF is Benning doing talking to Myers?

We have $17 mllion left in cap space. Need to sign Boeser.

bobbinka
06-22-2019, 05:18 PM
looks like he's got a lot of work to do to make this all fit. we have at least 6 RFAs that need contracts and he still intends to add UFA Dmen.

maybe eriksson, sutter, and tanev are on their way out

Jmac
06-22-2019, 06:27 PM
If we got Subban, we could absolutely trade Tanev. Right now, our right side is Tanev, Stecher, Biega ...

Myers doesn’t facilitate a Tanev trade.

pastarocket
06-22-2019, 06:42 PM
Dim Jim is good at drafting players. As a GM, his record of trades is very suspect. :lawl:

PiuYi
06-22-2019, 07:03 PM
tbh don't mind the JT miller trade, it's a conditional first round which (if things go to plan) will mean it's a late first rounder (17-30). Half the guys selected that late in the first round don't even make it as career NHLers

that said, I don't know the strength of the next 2 years draft class but I'd say it's a calculated risk worth taking for a sure thing in JT miller on an affordable contract

Jmac
06-22-2019, 07:29 PM
tbh don't mind the JT miller trade, it's a conditional first round which (if things go to plan) will mean it's a late first rounder (17-30). Half the guys selected that late in the first round don't even make it as career NHLers

that said, I don't know the strength of the next 2 years draft class but I'd say it's a calculated risk worth taking for a sure thing in JT miller on an affordable contract
That’s a big if for a team that hasn’t even come close to making the playoffs in the last 4 seasons.

2020 is supposed to be a very strong draft headed by Alexis Lafreniere.

highfive
06-22-2019, 07:40 PM
This trade is dependent on Canucks making the playoffs. If not, it’s potentially another Ottawa Colorado trade. Hell imagine Byram and chabot?

Does anyone know if miller will be lost in the expansion draft?

bobbinka
06-22-2019, 09:37 PM
it sucks to have given up a 1st round, but who's to say we won't be trading something and getting a first rounder back? i'm not saying it''ll completely even out, but we've definitely got to offload some bodies if he intends to chase after UFAs

Jmac
06-22-2019, 09:40 PM
This trade is dependent on Canucks making the playoffs. If not, it’s potentially another Ottawa Colorado trade. Hell imagine Byram and chabot?

Does anyone know if miller will be lost in the expansion draft?
Teams can protect 7 forwards, 3 defensemen, and 1 goaltender or 8 skaters and 1 goaltender.

Players with an NMC for that season must be protected unless the player waives his NMC.

All players who have played at least 2 professional seasons are eligible to be selected unless they are on the team’s protected list.

Miller does not have an NMC, so he can be lost to the expansion draft if the Canucks don’t put him on their protected list.

Blah_Teggie
06-22-2019, 10:10 PM
At first I hated this trade. But now that I think more about it, I like it. Lets say best case scenario, the Canucks make the playoffs one of these 2 years and the pick is from 16-31, what are your realistic expectations for that player? Would you be happy if he can score 20 goals and get you 30 assists a year? If your answer is yes, then that's what we're getting in Miller. Miller is also signed for 4 more years at a very reasonable 5.25M. Just look at what Kevin Hayes signed for (7.14M) a few days ago and he's never even cracked 50 points in a season. For every Brock Boeser, there's a Brendan Gaunce or Jordan Schroeder. You never know if that draft pick will turn out a player, but we are for sure getting one in JT Miller.

punkwax
06-22-2019, 10:43 PM
^exactly. Not thrilled to give up a first but at least we have a sure thing coming back.

Risk vs reward.

nah
06-22-2019, 10:53 PM
But...the pick is only protected for 2020. If they get a top 10 pick in 2020, 2021 doesn't get protected and could be disaster if the team continues to be shit.

Knowing the Canucks' luck, the one time they win the draft lottery they have to give it up to TB.

sonick
06-23-2019, 08:12 AM
1st Rd Pick is conditional of making the playoffs, in which case the draft lottery risk is moot.

Jmac
06-23-2019, 08:40 AM
1st Rd Pick is conditional of making the playoffs, in which case the draft lottery risk is moot.
The condition is that if the Canucks make the playoffs this year, Tampa Bay receives the Canucks’ 2020 1st round pick. If the Canucks do not make the playoffs this year, Tampa Bay receives the Canucks’ 2021 1st round pick.

There’s no lottery protection on the 2021 pick should the Canucks miss the playoffs in each of the next 2 seasons.

winson604
06-23-2019, 09:18 AM
I reacted not liking the trade by default because it's Dim Jim but after I settled down I'm down with it and the reasons have already been stated so I won't get into it too much. I'm not worried about the pick I mean if we were to worry about what if's we may as well never make any trades at all. Nobody ever succeeds without taking some risks and let's not worry about something that may not happen.

sonick
06-23-2019, 10:14 AM
The condition is that if the Canucks make the playoffs this year, Tampa Bay receives the Canucks’ 2020 1st round pick. If the Canucks do not make the playoffs this year, Tampa Bay receives the Canucks’ 2021 1st round pick.

There’s no lottery protection on the 2021 pick should the Canucks miss the playoffs in each of the next 2 seasons.

Ah thanks for clarifying!

F3
06-23-2019, 04:58 PM
Under normal circumstances, this would seem like an okay trade, but it's the fact that TB is up against the cap and NEEDS to get rid of Miller that makes this trade seem like an over-payment by JB. The leafs gave up a first to get rid of Marleau because they couldn't afford to keep him and yet TB gets a first and a third when they need to get rid of Miller? I know Miller and Marleau are at completely different points in their careers, but the compensation difference shouldn't be that drastically different imo.

RiceIntegraRS
06-23-2019, 05:49 PM
Under normal circumstances, this would seem like an okay trade, but it's the fact that TB is up against the cap and NEEDS to get rid of Miller that makes this trade seem like an over-payment by JB. The leafs gave up a first to get rid of Marleau because they couldn't afford to keep him and yet TB gets a first and a third when they need to get rid of Miller? I know Miller and Marleau are at completely different points in their careers, but the compensation difference shouldn't be that drastically different imo.

Exactly Tampa Bay was in a vulnerable position and we didnt take advantage of them at all. Even if u dont even factor that in, i still give the slight edge to Tampa winning this trade. But whats done is done. Hopefully Miller does well

punkwax
06-23-2019, 05:54 PM
20 other teams could have tried to take advantage and JB offered what he was comfortable offering to land Miller’s services. He’s also in job preservation mode. It is what it is at least Miller’s a skater.

bobbinka
06-23-2019, 05:58 PM
To be fair, the issue with Marleau is that he wants to go back to SJ. So the only teams who would be interested in him are the ones who want the Cap hit and can afford to buy him out. Since you still need to actually spend money to buy him out, you need a sweetener from Toronto.

Whereas for Miller, you're giving up assets to get a sure thing (in that he's contractually tied for a few more years at reasonable cap hit). I'm willing to bet there were plenty of teams willing to pay for Miller, and we had to give more than what everyone else was offering. Maybe everyone else was offering a 2nd instead of a 1st. Or there was a better team than us who was also offering a 1st which is likely a lower 1st than us.

It's a calculated risk. Let's face it, we've been out of the playoffs for half the decade. If this rebuild still doesn't get us back into the playoffs these next two seasons, the rebuild is a failure. So if the expectation is that we will be back in the race, then i'm okay with this.

Blah_Teggie
06-23-2019, 10:23 PM
Under normal circumstances, this would seem like an okay trade, but it's the fact that TB is up against the cap and NEEDS to get rid of Miller that makes this trade seem like an over-payment by JB. The leafs gave up a first to get rid of Marleau because they couldn't afford to keep him and yet TB gets a first and a third when they need to get rid of Miller? I know Miller and Marleau are at completely different points in their careers, but the compensation difference shouldn't be that drastically different imo.

How do you actually know TB is up against the cap? Are you a cap expert? According to capfriendly, currently TB has 10.6 MIL in cap space and that is not including the 5.8 M for Ryan Callahan. Since I'm no cap expert, I'm not sure if that can now come off their cap. If it can, they would have over 16.4 million in cap space. Say they still had Miller, so subtract 5.25M, that would leave em with over 11 million to play with. That's more than enough to pay Point. I don't see them paying Point more than Stamkos who's at 8.5 million. TB didn't trade Miller to clear his cap, they traded him simply cuz they don't need him to win. TB ran away during the regular season. They would've with or without Miller on the team. So why not save that money? If you ask me, they need that cap space to resign Vasilevskiy who has one more year after this year and he's gonna get a huge raise. TB is a professional hockey team, not a peewee team. You don't think they budget stuff like this out way before hand?

nah
06-23-2019, 10:58 PM
How do you actually know TB is up against the cap? Are you a cap expert? According to capfriendly, currently TB has 10.6 MIL in cap space and that is not including the 5.8 M for Ryan Callahan. Since I'm no cap expert, I'm not sure if that can now come off their cap. If it can, they would have over 16.4 million in cap space. Say they still had Miller, so subtract 5.25M, that would leave em with over 11 million to play with. That's more than enough to pay Point. I don't see them paying Point more than Stamkos who's at 8.5 million. TB didn't trade Miller to clear his cap, they traded him simply cuz they don't need him to win. TB ran away during the regular season. They would've with or without Miller on the team. So why not save that money? If you ask me, they need that cap space to resign Vasilevskiy who has one more year after this year and he's gonna get a huge raise. TB is a professional hockey team, not a peewee team. You don't think they budget stuff like this out way before hand?

They only have 10.6 because the 5.25 from Miller has already moved off their cap. They only had 5.35 to sign Point with Miller still on the roster.

bobbinka
06-23-2019, 11:05 PM
capfriendly also tells you they have 3 other RFAs and 2 UFAs. obviously that capspace would be needed for a number of players, not just Point.

that's like looking at Canucks right now and saying we have 17 mil to sign Boeser :facepalm:

Jmac
06-23-2019, 11:22 PM
$10.627M with 16/23 players and still need to re-sign Point, who is coming off a 92-point season.

And that’s after trading Miller.

I won’t get into the LTIR thing because it’s after midnight and I work in the morning but the short of it is Callahan and his $5.8M cap hit have to be on the 23-man cap compliant roster that is submitted the day before the season begins (assuming Tampa Bay doesn’t find a taker for his contract). On day 1 of the season, they can place him on LTIR and gain cap relief up to his AAV.

Even if 6 of the other guys come in at league minimum $0.700M ($4.2M total), that only leaves $6.427M to sign Point. Prior to the Miller trade, it would’ve been $1.877M.

Bouncing Bettys
06-24-2019, 01:11 PM
James Cybulski
‏Verified account @JamesCybulski

Heard over the weekend that #Canucks & #Blackhawks had discussed swapping the 3rd and 10th overall picks so Vancouver could jump up to get Bowen Byram, but Chicago wanted Van to take D Brent Seabrook and the remaining 5 years/$6.875M AAV on his contract. Thus the deal died.

That is a lot of cap space to eat for 5 years. Canucks should be a playoff team before then.

68style
06-24-2019, 02:18 PM
Wow... spending $35 mill to jump up 7 spts in the draft... as a fan, dare to dream... as Aquilini? No thanks.........

highfive
06-24-2019, 04:35 PM
I think I see why they want to make this move and aim for the playoffs. I feel like they are in a position where Petey and Hughes are in their ELC, Bo in a good contract, and Boeser the only guy who's going to cost $6+.

With the going rate of RFA's getting big money and Hayes $7+ deal, I think they don't want to fall into an Oiler's situation and wasted McDavid's ELC years.

Oilers traded for Talbot and Reinhart and signed Sekera after drafting McDavid.

Following year, traded Hall for Larsson, signed Lucic.

Following year, traded Eberle.

Basically Edmonton in the 3 years of McDavid's ELC, they couldn't find him a winger except for Draisaitl (imo but they keep playing him C), they can't build defence group rdy for the playoffs, and they can't find a consistent goalie to win games for them.

I feel we have better situation, we have Boeser who has chemistry with Petey, secondary centre in Bo, 3rd and 4th line C in Sutter / Gaudette / Beagle.

It some way, it sort of completes our top 6 with Miller in. Just how are we going to rebuild our top 6 d core is another question. Edler / Tanev / Hughes ....?

I like the trade but hated the price. It's a risk but I don't get how they were able to take advantage of Toronto in the Leivo trade but they failed to take advantage of Tampa with this trade? Unless we don't see what goes on behind the scenes, it's hard to say?

Maybe NHL rigged it? Gotta continue to save southern hockey teams at all cost!

highfive
06-24-2019, 04:36 PM
That is a lot of cap space to eat for 5 years. Canucks should be a playoff team before then.

Apparently on twitter, some other reporter said this wasn't true?

spoon.ek9
06-24-2019, 05:36 PM
We shouldn't forget, we struggled all season long to find someone who could consistently play with Bo. Adding Miller will hopefully alleviate that to a degree.

F3
06-24-2019, 05:41 PM
How do you actually know TB is up against the cap? Are you a cap expert? According to capfriendly, currently TB has 10.6 MIL in cap space and that is not including the 5.8 M for Ryan Callahan. Since I'm no cap expert, I'm not sure if that can now come off their cap. If it can, they would have over 16.4 million in cap space. Say they still had Miller, so subtract 5.25M, that would leave em with over 11 million to play with. That's more than enough to pay Point. I don't see them paying Point more than Stamkos who's at 8.5 million. TB didn't trade Miller to clear his cap, they traded him simply cuz they don't need him to win. TB ran away during the regular season. They would've with or without Miller on the team. So why not save that money? If you ask me, they need that cap space to resign Vasilevskiy who has one more year after this year and he's gonna get a huge raise. TB is a professional hockey team, not a peewee team. You don't think they budget stuff like this out way before hand?
FailFish

https://twitter.com/FriedgeHNIC/status/1143317930064711680
https://twitter.com/FriedgeHNIC/status/1143318402351718400
https://twitter.com/FriedgeHNIC/status/1143319662026993664
Wtf is Benning doing???

Jmac
06-24-2019, 06:09 PM
FailFish

https://twitter.com/FriedgeHNIC/status/1143317930064711680
https://twitter.com/FriedgeHNIC/status/1143318402351718400
https://twitter.com/FriedgeHNIC/status/1143319662026993664
Wtf is Benning doing???
Making room for Gardiner and/or Myers is my guess, in which case, why not trade Hutton’s rights?

Sportsnet guys seem to think he’s demanding $4.5M/year, which means he likely has trade value ...

Ch28
06-24-2019, 09:38 PM
It doesn't mean Canucks are ditching Hutton just because they're not qualifying him. It simply means that the Canucks and Hutton will likely work out a deal without having to go through arbitration. It's much easier to create a workable dialogue when you're not facing each other with an arbitrator and essentially talking shit about each other to drive the price up/down.

highfive
06-25-2019, 01:10 PM
That 2013 draft, Lazar Rychel and Hartman didn't get QO from their teams.

spoon.ek9
06-25-2019, 05:35 PM
surprisingly Goldobin was given a qualifying offer. some of you will be happy to hear Gaunce was not qualified lol.

Jmac
06-25-2019, 05:40 PM
Gaunce was a solid 4th liner. Not a huge loss but don't really understand why he wasn't given a spot last year.

highfive
06-25-2019, 07:40 PM
Gaunce was a solid 4th liner. Not a huge loss but don't really understand why he wasn't given a spot last year.

I can give you $1.9 million reasons why. Lol

Jmac
06-25-2019, 07:43 PM
I can give you $1.9 million reasons why. Lol
bUt ScHaLlEr So GoOd!

roopi
06-26-2019, 10:06 AM
Roberto Luongo announces retirement and Canucks going to get hit with recapture penalty, 3 million against the cap for the next 3 years.

whitev70r
06-26-2019, 10:16 AM
In classic Strombone fashion !!

https://twitter.com/strombone1/status/1143942124444033025

pastarocket
06-26-2019, 10:19 AM
Dim Jim has his work cut out for him with the cap recapture kicking in for 3 straight years -gotta find a way to get new contracts needed for Boeser and later Petey.

-wonder if Dim Jim should seriously consider asking his blueberry boss about buying out Loui's contract:

-would save about 2.5 million US in cap room in season 2021/2022.

https://canucksarmy.com/2019/05/17/what-would-an-eriksson-buyout-look-like/

highfive
06-26-2019, 10:40 AM
Lu’s wife: hey I heard the Canucks are planning to offer $8 mil to Myers...what is Jim Benning doing?

Lu: fuck looks like I gotta save them! I’m gonna retire!

whitev70r
06-26-2019, 10:43 AM
Q: what is advantage to Lui in choosing retirement over LTIR? I understand LTIR is better for Florida and Canucks.
If a player goes to LTIR ... doesn't he still get paid in terms of his contract?
If he retires, doesn't he forfeit rest of his contract money?

Expresso
06-26-2019, 10:43 AM
Open Letter from Lu.
https://www.nhl.com/panthers/news/luongos-open-letter-to-the-fans/c-308071408

Jmac
06-26-2019, 10:58 AM
Q: what is advantage to Lui in choosing retirement over LTIR? I understand LTIR is better for Florida and Canucks.
If a player goes to LTIR ... doesn't he still get paid in terms of his contract?
If he retires, doesn't he forfeit rest of his contract money?
He forfeits the rest of his money ($3.6M), yes. However, in order to get that money from the insurance company, he has to make a bonafide effort to return to play (adhere to a recovery plan which may involve seeing specialists, having surgeries performed, physical therapy, rehab, etc.)

Retiring means he can just live his life as he wants.

whitev70r
06-26-2019, 12:15 PM
Another inductee to the ring of honour ... or retiring his number?

I'd say give him the ring of honour here. Let Florida retire his number.

Hondaracer
06-26-2019, 12:24 PM
The retired numbers is such a mess with the current people up there

I’d say Lu is ahead of Smyl, Bure, AND Naslund..

Razor Ramon HG
06-26-2019, 01:05 PM
Sad. Luongo will always have a soft spot in my heart. I always pick him up in NHL franchise mode when I do a fantasy draft.

Bouncing Bettys
06-26-2019, 01:25 PM
The retired numbers is such a mess with the current people up there

I’d say Lu is ahead of Smyl, Bure, AND Naslund..

Up until recently, in order to be considered for number retirement with the Leafs, the player had to contribute significantly to the team (win Cups) and have died while still with the team. So despite 100+ years of team history, there were only 2 numbers retired. Everyone else had their number "honoured" but players could still wear those numbers.

On the one hand, I like honouring players by not letting others wear their number. On the other hand, I like seeing that number out on the ice because it reminds me of the past player.

winson604
06-26-2019, 04:41 PM
The good ol numbers debate lol I don't know. I wasn't old enough to know what Stan meant for us so I won't comment. Out of the remaining 3 only Linden is a slam dunk for me.

TjAlmeida
06-26-2019, 04:51 PM
I hope the cap recapture kills the whole Tyler Myers signing. We do not need Louie 2.0..

bobbinka
06-26-2019, 05:04 PM
I hope the cap recapture kills the whole Tyler Myers signing. We do not need Louie 2.0..

This doesn't mean he won't overpay for someone who is worse

F3
06-26-2019, 07:03 PM
https://twitter.com/JesseGranger_/status/1144071495758430208
He seems comparable to JT Miller and all it cost the Canes was a player no one's heard of. This is what trades are suppose to look like for teams that are up against the cap and NEED to move out players.

bobbinka
06-26-2019, 07:13 PM
He seems comparable to JT Miller

based on what....?

F3
06-26-2019, 07:50 PM
Points?
Goals?
Position?

nah
06-26-2019, 08:14 PM
He might not be Miller, but a poor man's version. Haula did get 55 pts in 17-18 in Vegas and he was traded for a scrub essentially.

Nicolas Roy (b.1997) Hockey Stats and Profile at hockeydb.com (http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=169632)

punkwax
06-26-2019, 08:55 PM
+ he’s older
+ he doesn’t play all 3 forward positions
+ he’s coming off a bad knee injury that apparently required a rare surgery IIRC

bobbinka
06-26-2019, 09:49 PM
+ he's on the last year of his contract
+ he was a -16 on a Vegas team that scored a ton of goals
+ he had one breakout year

mb_
06-26-2019, 11:02 PM
Another inductee to the ring of honour ... or retiring his number?

I'd say give him the ring of honour here. Let Florida retire his number.

Retire his number!!! My favorite goalie of all time. Still remember when Niedermayer turned over the puck in their own zone in the 2010 Olympics and he stopped Pavelski's snipe just moments before Sid scored the golden goal. Probably my favorite Luongo moment.

Sucks that we got hit with the recapture penalty but I'm willing to overlook it for all he's done for the team and city when he was here

F3
06-27-2019, 05:13 AM
+ he’s older
+ he doesn’t play all 3 forward positions
+ he’s coming off a bad knee injury that apparently required a rare surgery IIRC

Imo these things are not worth and 3rd AND a 1st, but sure. Keep throwing away draft picks and be stuck between rebuilding and going for it. The canucks better make the playoffs next year or else, with their luck, they're winning the lottery and tampas getting the pick.

punkwax
06-27-2019, 06:46 AM
^they will be if his knee stops him from recovering to his old form.. bobbinka added some great points as well. It wasn’t a great comparison.

No one is happy we gave up a first. No one.

Haula atcha boy.

whitev70r
06-27-2019, 07:13 AM
It must be great for the other 30 teams to know that there is always one team that will pay the asking price for a player.

A first round for J.T. Miller ??!! TBH, I never even heard of the guy before this. A conditional 1st and a 3rd??!!

winson604
06-27-2019, 08:35 AM
It must be great for the other 30 teams to know that there is always one team that will pay the asking price for a player.

A first round for J.T. Miller ??!! TBH, I never even heard of the guy before this. A conditional 1st and a 3rd??!!

I'm not going to argue if a 1st and a 3rd was worth it but will say if you've never heard of JT Miller before then you clearly don't watch much hockey.

Mike Oxbig
06-27-2019, 08:46 AM
JT miller is a fantasy beast

does everything, you need guys like that in the playoffs

blkgsr
06-27-2019, 09:28 AM
i thought first round picks were supposed to be saved when trading for stars, not randoms

MG1
06-27-2019, 09:36 AM
I see most of you guys are still looking forward to another 50 years of Canucks hockey..........


Sad to say it, but I guess I am. Remember............. I get to drive the bandwagon.

Liquid_o2
06-27-2019, 09:56 AM
I think JT Miller is a great pickup. It was a high price to pay... and if the Canucks squeak into the playoffs next season (which I think they could), it may end up being a 3rd round pick and 15th/16th overall in a deep draft class.

I think it would have been easier to stomach if it was the conditional 1st round pick and a B level prospect, without including the 3rd rounder.

RiceIntegraRS
06-27-2019, 11:18 AM
JT miller is a fantasy beast

does everything, you need guys like that in the playoffs


3 goals in 62 playoff games I heard...........

Why are we wasting time meeting with Myers who wants 7+mil a season when we can acquire Colin Miller for half the money and half the term and we dont have to give anything significant to get him.

whitev70r
06-27-2019, 09:43 PM
https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/luongo-buys-ad-vancouver-newspaper-thank-canucks-fans/

https://twitter.com/stephanie_ip/status/1144300721019457537

highfive
06-27-2019, 11:59 PM
The best thing nonis ever did in his career. Lu trade.

nah
06-28-2019, 12:19 AM
Imo these things are not worth and 3rd AND a 1st, but sure. Keep throwing away draft picks and be stuck between rebuilding and going for it. The canucks better make the playoffs next year or else, with their luck, they're winning the lottery and tampas getting the pick.

If the lottery winning pick does go to Tampa, then I would say that this bad luck couldn't happen to better meddling owners.

Bouncing Bettys
06-28-2019, 07:17 AM
If the lottery winning pick does go to Tampa, then I would say that this bad luck couldn't happen to better meddling owners.
I wonder what would have happened if long-game-rebuild Trevor Linden was still President.

Jmac
06-28-2019, 07:18 AM
The best thing nonis ever did in his career. Lu trade.
Pretty much the only good thing Nonis did in his tenure as GM here.

highfive
06-28-2019, 08:16 AM
Pretty much the only good thing Nonis did in his tenure as GM here.

I think it’s safe to say in Toronto as well. Guy just loves his bottom guys lol.

Bouncing Bettys
06-28-2019, 08:21 AM
Nonis did manage to get out of the Clarkson contract. I believe I was listening to Leafs Lunch live when the trade was announced out of no where. At the time, no one thought he could move that contract. Granted he was the one who signed him to that ridiculous contract in the first place, with everyone including myself immediately thinking he overpaid. Also granted some believe others in the organization made that trade possible and all he had to do was pick up the phone.

highfive
06-28-2019, 10:14 AM
Wasn't it Clarkson for Horton? Shit contract for shit contract isn't it?

Bouncing Bettys
06-28-2019, 10:47 AM
Wasn't it Clarkson for Horton? Shit contract for shit contract isn't it?
Yeah, though at the time Clarkson was still playing and taking up a roster spot with an expensive, insured contract - similar to Eriksson situation now. CJB couldn't afford to pay out of pocket for Horton's uninsured contract, but the insured contract of a player who could still contribute was better for them. Leafs wanted the open roster spot, so the deal made sense for both.

highfive
06-28-2019, 10:49 AM
Leafs with money lol.

Leafs gonna be paying almost $50 million next week in signing bonuses lol shittt.

Speed2K
06-28-2019, 03:56 PM
3 goals in 62 playoff games I heard...........

Why are we wasting time meeting with Myers who wants 7+mil a season when we can acquire Colin Miller for half the money and half the term and we dont have to give anything significant to get him.

He's gone, 2nd and 5th.

https://www.tsn.ca/buffalo-sabres-are-set-to-acquire-defenceman-colin-miller-from-the-vegas-golden-knights-1.1330116

whitev70r
06-30-2019, 11:56 AM
Can someone explain? Why didn't Panthers just buy Reimer out instead? Why trade for someone with a higher contract to buy him out ... don't say it was for the 6th round pick.

Panthers trade Reimer to 'Canes for Darling; place Darling on buyout waivers (https://www.tsn.ca/florida-panthers-trade-g-james-reimer-to-carolina-hurricanes-1.1330793)

The Florida Panthers have traded James Reimer to the Carolina Hurricanes in exchange for Scott Darling and a sixth round draft pick.

The 31-year-old Reimer has two years remaining on his contract at $3.4 million per season.

Darling has two years left on his contract at $4.1 million with the Panthers placing him on unconditional waivers for the purpose of a buyout.

bobbinka
06-30-2019, 12:17 PM
might have to do with the signing bonus due to Reimer the next season

FN-2199
06-30-2019, 12:25 PM
might have to do with the signing bonus due to Reimer the next season

It's definitely to avoid the $2.25 mil signing bonus in 2020-2021.

pastarocket
06-30-2019, 03:32 PM
The Penguins and Coyotes make a trade. Kessel for Galchenyuk:

https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/penguins-trading-star-winger-phil-kessel-coyotes-alex-galchenyuk/

68style
06-30-2019, 05:33 PM
Panthers clearing house for Bobrovsky

winson604
06-30-2019, 07:22 PM
Pavelski to Dallas apparently damn that sounds weird.

sonick
06-30-2019, 07:29 PM
Jordie Benn and Tyler Myers likely signings tomorrow for the Canucks.

FN-2199
06-30-2019, 08:34 PM
^ Fingers crossed we don't overpay for Myers...

sonick
06-30-2019, 08:42 PM
Hearing $30m over 5yrs

punkwax
06-30-2019, 09:01 PM
^ I could live with that. Much better than the 7M x 7 that has been thrown out there.

Jmac
06-30-2019, 11:27 PM
This 7-day free agent negotiation window fucking sucks all the fun out of Canada Day morning.

Ch28
06-30-2019, 11:44 PM
Myers, Benn, and Ferland gonna sign tmw morning