[WD-40]

The longer this takes, the worse it gets for Russia. You keep bombing and killing innocent lives, the Ukrainian people will resist even more to the point Putin will have to wipe out the whole population. The rest of the world will eventually have to do something. Once Ukraine is taken over, the rest of Europe is done.

[whitev70r]

Russia now banning media from independent reporting ... must parrot Putin's own narrative. Cannot report what is happening in Ukraine as an 'invasion' ... up to 15 yrs imprisonment. Didn't think I could hate one human being so much as I do Putin!

CBC and BBC suspend reporting from inside Russia in face of 'fake' news law, blocking of Western websites
https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/russia-western-media-blocked-1.6372603

The CBC has joined the BBC in saying it will temporarily suspend all its reporting from the ground in Russia after Russian President Vladimir Putin signed a bill introducing a prison sentence of up to 15 years for spreading information that goes against the Russian government's position on the war in Ukraine.

[AzNightmare]

I do feel a bit bad for Ukraine in that they gave up their nukes after having been given security assurances in the Budapest Memorandum and now all the players in that agreement are completely fucking them over.


That's kind of sad.

That reminds me of a video I watched a long time ago on this topic. It tried to challenge you with a different perspective about how nukes can actually keep the world safer. I don't know if I really agree with it, but it does make a fair point. If hypothetically every country had nukes, maybe no one would fk with each other.

But then again... That's pretty much America's philosophy on guns, lol.
:considered:

[hud 91gt]

You can always send your nukes before the next guy. Doesn’t make anything more safe.

[SkinnyPupp]

Animated map of the invasion - it's going slow but it's going

recklessgloomyguppy

[WD-40]

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/04/science/ukraine-nuclear-power-plant.html

[underscore]

If every country had leaders sane enough that they could all be trusted with nukes, nobody would need nukes.

[Manic!]

Sky news reporters shot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQeZp0wnrEs

[Gumby]

Holy fuck :cry:

Whoever is shooting doesn’t care that you’re an unarmed civilian.

[Mr.Money]

you guys should've seen how the reporters looked.



full war helmet, full Rifle bullet proof armor, Stupid fucks driving around looking just like a soldier in a war zone.


https://i.imgur.com/t50TggX.jpg

[Manic!]

you guys should've seen how the reporters looked.



full war helmet, full Rifle bullet proof armor, Stupid fucks driving around looking just like a soldier in a war zone.


https://i.imgur.com/t50TggX.jpg

In the video they had blue press jackets on. Also you think they could see what people where wearing in a moving car.

EA and Activision Blizzard follow Microsoft in halting all sales in Russia

https://www.gamesradar.com/microsoft-halts-all-sales-and-services-in-russia-including-xbox/

[donk.]

Got off the phone with my grandparents in Odessa

Grandma's notes:
-Out of all the years and possible wars that may have occured from her growing up as a kid, shes disappointed the people that decided to invade, were her own neighbors
-There is no current war in Odessa, it's relatively quiet, can't say the same for other cities, she does not even want to turn on the TV to see what's going on, it's horrific to think it's reality
-The borders are insanity, people that have cars, have up to days waits to cross due to the backlog to Moldova, etc
-There is still power and utilities in Odessa, once again, she can't say the same for other cities, her friends in Mariupol have not had water/power for some time

My mom's brother:
I asked him if people are leaving Ukraine, are they handing out firearms
-Sounded like most are sticking around as there is no immediate threat, those who have a car, and or are able to leave are. Mostly women and kids. Those who are 18-60 males, are not allowed to cross borders, unless you have medical or "made up" excuses to leave
-Firearms aren't being "handed out" per say, but you can go to certain "depot's" and get one if needed

Grandpa:
-Watches alot of YouTube from both sides, Russia/Ukraine and makes up his own opinions as to what is going on
-Made jokes about how when I was a kid, and my mom dragged me back to Ukraine for the summer, the first 3 days that I arrived, there was no water or power in our building, and how that was just a normal occurance x times per year.
- Furthermore I commented on how people in Canada/USA would have a temper tandrum if they did not have water / power for a span of 1 hour, not to mention days. My grandpa followed up with a local joke "Americans can't fight without pampers" while he coughed up several chuckles
-Not much to do, but that's okay, we will make it by, as long as the war does not make it to Odessa, we will be fine. We can still buy groceries, got a chicken and a couple kalbasas today

[SkinnyPupp]

Got off the phone with my grandparents in Odessa

Grandma's notes:
-Out of all the years and possible wars that may have occured from her growing up as a kid, shes disappointed the people that decided to invade, were her own neighbors
-There is no current war in Odessa, it's relatively quiet, can't say the same for other cities, she does not even want to turn on the TV to see what's going on, it's horrific to think it's reality
-The borders are insanity, people that have cars, have up to days waits to cross due to the backlog to Moldova, etc
-There is still power and utilities in Odessa, once again, she can't say the same for other cities, her friends in Mariupol have not had water/power for some time

My mom's brother:
I asked him if people are leaving Ukraine, are they handing out firearms
-Sounded like most are sticking around as there is no immediate threat, those who have a car, and or are able to leave are. Mostly women and kids. Those who are 18-60 males, are not allowed to cross borders, unless you have medical or "made up" excuses to leave
-Firearms aren't being "handed out" per say, but you can go to certain "depot's" and get one if needed

Grandpa:
-Watches alot of YouTube from both sides, Russia/Ukraine and makes up his own opinions as to what is going on
-Made jokes about how when I was a kid, and my mom dragged me back to Ukraine for the summer, the first 3 days that I arrived, there was no water or power in our building, and how that was just a normal occurance x times per year.
- Furthermore I commented on how people in Canada/USA would have a temper tandrum if they did not have water / power for a span of 1 hour, not to mention days. My grandpa followed up with a local joke "Americans can't fight without pampers" while he coughed up several chuckles
-Not much to do, but that's okay, we will make it by, as long as the war does not make it to Odessa, we will be fine. We can still buy groceries, got a chicken and a couple kalbasas today
Thanks for sharing. Pretty much confirms what we've been hearing, but it's always good to get as much direct or second hand (rather than third to fifth) info.

Also supports the post I made on the first page of this thread - people are going to live their lives to the best of their ability. Unless there's a tank rolling through your actual house, or a missile fired at it, you're going to live on.

[SkinnyPupp]

you guys should've seen how the reporters looked.



full war helmet, full Rifle bullet proof armor, Stupid fucks driving around looking just like a soldier in a war zone.


https://i.imgur.com/t50TggX.jpg

The Russians had no idea who they were when they started firing. And after they identified themselves, they kept firing. Those stupid fucks are still alive because of wearing that gear.

[SkinnyPupp]

This dude can be the vice president after jumping on a Russian APC waving the Ukrainian flag

https://streamable.com/s0xuox

[Acura604]

https://youtu.be/5IgoMxN-pEA

[quasi]

https://youtu.be/5IgoMxN-pEA

That claim seems substantiated by the video.

[AzNightmare]

You can always send your nukes before the next guy. Doesn’t make anything more safe.

Well, the idea rests on whether you think a country that's backed to a into a corner will resort to nukes or not. It's always a scarier thought to try to provoke a country in the first place if they have nukes.

[Manic!]

Don't know if this is real but:

https://i.redd.it/x9dcda4vyll81.png

[SkinnyPupp]

https://twitter.com/Billbrowder/status/1500247976064733192

[Mr.Money]

how many can light 'em up and claim the insurance money.

[JDMDreams]

How's that legal though? It's like Iran taking trump towers because they say it's legal?

[Tegra_Devil]

https://twitter.com/Billbrowder/status/1500247976064733192

I'll put my stating bid in at $10,000 cad.

[inv4zn]

How's that legal though? It's like Iran taking trump towers because they say it's legal?

It's legal just like how cops can take your shit if they think it was used for, or bought with proceeds from a crime.

Iran can very well take trump towers if their laws allow it. It's part of the risk of doing business in other countries.

The flip side is if a country takes your shit, you're likely to never want to have anything to do with that country again.

[inv4zn]

Fucking morons.

Zelensky had a call with US senators, Ukraine specifically asked everyone on the call not to share shit on social media, for security reasons real or perceived.

Two republican senators proceed to do so anyway, DURING the fucking call.
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/597018-two-gop-senators-share-photos-from-zoom-call-with-zelensky-despite-requests

But I guess if your party allows heckling the POTUS while he speaks about his dead son, anything is fair game.

[sdubfid]

Fucking morons.

Zelensky had a call with US senators, Ukraine specifically asked everyone on the call not to share shit on social media, for security reasons real or perceived.

Two republican senators proceed to do so anyway, DURING the fucking call.
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/597018-two-gop-senators-share-photos-from-zoom-call-with-zelensky-despite-requests

But I guess if your party allows heckling the POTUS while he speaks about his dead son, anything is fair game.

Give me a break, haven’t you watched any movies? With 240 people on a zoom call you have to expect nothing is private and the picture is still up you can see nothing is revealing. Anything important would be done with higher ups only not every Tom dick and harry. Useless article which did exactly as it intended. Ignore that garbage.

[SkinnyPupp]

I think someone here said their grandparents were in Odessa? This has me worried

https://twitter.com/CovertShores/status/1500370745964351490

This thread goes over the tactics:

https://twitter.com/CovertShores/status/1499650326374322176

TLDR: It won't be easy. He spoke about unverified reports of mutiny in the Navy, so they may have to use non specialized troops to land. If the Russians can't get ground support there in time, and Ukraine has strong defense with mines, drones, and anti tank rockets, it could be a bloodbath for the Russians.

[AzNightmare]

I think someone here said their grandparents were in Odessa? This has me worried


Got off the phone with my grandparents in Odessa


Hope his fam is ok.
Honestly at this point, either try to flee now or only stick around if you intend to help and fight once the city starts getting attacked.

The war is going to make it to every part of Ukraine within time. If the plan is to escape only when the war comes to the city, it'll be too late by then.

[SkinnyPupp]

https://twitter.com/SobolLubov/status/1500454968465186817

Russians starting to protest more (this is from 1 hour ago)

[pastarocket]

More sanctions against Russia.

https://vancouver.citynews.ca/2022/03/06/mastercard-visa-suspend-operations-russia-invasion/

Mastercard and Visa are suspending their operations in Russia, the companies said Saturday, in the latest blow to the country’s financial system after its invasion of Ukraine.

Mastercard said cards issued by Russian banks will no longer be supported by its network and any Mastercard issued outside the country will not work at Russian stores or ATMs.


“We don’t take this decision lightly,” Mastercard said in a statement, adding that it made the move after discussions with customers, partners and governments.

Visa said it’s working with clients and partners in Russia to cease all Visa transactions over the coming days.

“We are compelled to act following Russia’s unprovoked invasion of Ukraine, and the unacceptable events that we have witnessed,” Visa Chairman and Chief Executive Officer Al Kelly said in a statement.

[Hondaracer]

I love all the Facebook bozos comment on all these sanctions and actions as “cancel culture at its best!!” Bla bla bla

There’s literally nothing else to do, if you understand NATO’s position there is virtually nothing else to he done by sanction the shit out of the general population until they cannot function and force the govts hand. It can’t just be left unchecked because it’s “cancel culture” lol which it obviously isn’t

[whitev70r]

I hope there is a special place in hell for people like Putin and Hitler ... where they are waterboard tortured non-stop and worst.

[westopher]

Imagine being upset that someone was cancelled cause they started a war lol.

[Manic!]

Odesssa preparing for tanks.

https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineWarVideoReport/comments/t85f1o/odessa_ukraine_preparing_to_welcome_russian_tanks/

[6793026]

I didn't understand what all this no fly zone meant.
So i did some research; Ukraine and Russia are both not in NATO. That explains it....

-Ukraine wanted to have NATO set no fly zone.
-Nato says f off; both of you are not part of the club.
-This is a war within your back yard....

If the declare, then if Russia flies in no fly zone, technically NATO has to send planes and attack?

I wonder how things will play out.

[SkinnyPupp]

I didn't understand what all this no fly zone meant.
So i did some research; Ukraine and Russia are both not in NATO. That explains it....

-Ukraine wanted to have NATO set no fly zone.
-Nato says f off; both of you are not part of the club.
-This is a war within your back yard....

If the declare, then if Russia flies in no fly zone, technically NATO has to send planes and attack?

I wonder how things will play out.
Ukraine begging NATO for help constantly is being done the way it is very much on purpose

[Tr1ll]

I didn't understand what all this no fly zone meant.
So i did some research; Ukraine and Russia are both not in NATO. That explains it....

-Ukraine wanted to have NATO set no fly zone.
-Nato says f off; both of you are not part of the club.
-This is a war within your back yard....

If the declare, then if Russia flies in no fly zone, technically NATO has to send planes and attack?

I wonder how things will play out.

No fly zone literally means what the name states. In order for NATO to actually enforce a no fly zone that will mean they will have to shoot down Russian aircraft and take out ground to air radar/missile sites which effectively means NATO getting into a war with Russia.

[SkinnyPupp]

This is apparently a more accurate map showing Russian controlled territory. They don't have much outside Donetsk and Crimea aside from roads (but obviously they can still shell civilians hard from these positions)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FNNOZlqXEAAx7gf.jpg

[pastarocket]

A Ukrainian company hacked into electric chargers in Russia to troll Putin and Russia. LUL

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220307/dc4d15fcca88f73dc5974d309f802222.jpg


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[Mr.Money]

russian soldiers are beginning to blast at anyone for population control to surrender.


lot of reports of cars,suvs being shot.

[SkinnyPupp]

Yesterday they called a ceasefire to let people evacuate, but started firing on them after less than an hour. They're trying again today

[68style]

I was listening to some general on CNN talk about the possible amphibious assaults on Odessa... he had some interesting points about supply chain problems as in they are totally cut off from land based Russian forces if they attempt that and there's no way to get fuel and ammunition to any of that equipment, so it would be a pretty bad move actually to carry out that assault at this particular juncture.

[SkinnyPupp]

You should check out the thread I posted about a potential ambibious assault on Odessa.. Based on that, it is not favorable to the Russians, and if they were smart they wouldn't attempt it. USA said today that they don't think they'll attempt it.

But we know they're not smart, so...

BTW Ukraine hit a Russian airfield, destroying 30 aircraft POGGERS

[Mr.Money]

if North America is supplying weapons. 100% providing satellite based imagery with GPS locations.


there probably wondering how tf did they know.

[whitev70r]

Interesting report that Turkey will give their fighter jets to Ukraine and US will give fighters to Turkey in exchange. Creative circumvent.

[Mikoyan]

Interesting report that Turkey will give their fighter jets to Ukraine and US will give fighters to Turkey in exchange. Creative circumvent.

Considering that Turkey uses F16’s, and Ukraine uses MIG's, this is highly unlikely.

It's not like Independence Day, where a biplane pilot can just hop into a F18 after an hour of instruction and fly and fight the plane effectively.

Earlier on, they were working on having other NATO counties that still have MIGs to transfer theirs over, but from all public reports the deals are dead.

Good read here: https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/44501/reports-that-ukraine-is-about-to-get-70-donated-fighter-jets-dont-add-up

And
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/44608/poland-still-isnt-interested-in-transferring-its-mig-29s-to-ukraine

[pastarocket]

-good article that mentions some details about the US shipments of weapons from an undisclosed airport in Eastern Europe to Ukraine.

U.S. General Mark Milley visited the air field last week.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/06/politics/mark-milley-ukraine-military-assistance/index.html

Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Mark Milley went last week to an undisclosed airfield near the Ukrainian border that has become a hub for shipping weapons, a senior Defense Department official said, seeing firsthand the multinational effort to get weapons into Ukraine amid Russia's unprovoked invasion.

While at the airfield, Milley met with troops and personnel and examined the shipment activity, the official said Friday. The site has become a beehive of activity in recent days, going from a handful of flights each day to as many as 17, the field's maximum capacity.
The airport's location remains a secret to protect the shipments of weapons, including anti-armor missiles, into Ukraine. The Russian military has not targeted these shipments once they enter Ukraine, the official said, but there is some concern Russia could begin targeting the deliveries as its assault advances.


While at the airfield, Milley met with troops and personnel and examined the shipment activity, the official said Friday. The site has become a beehive of activity in recent days, going from a handful of flights each day to as many as 17, the field's maximum capacity.


The airport's location remains a secret to protect the shipments of weapons, including anti-armor missiles, into Ukraine. The Russian military has not targeted these shipments once they enter Ukraine, the official said, but there is some concern Russia could begin targeting the deliveries as its assault advances.

The US and other NATO members have so far sent Ukraine 17,000 anti-tank missiles and 2,000 stinger anti-aircraft missiles, a senior US official told CNN.

Since even before Russia's invasion began late last month, the skies above Europe have been filled with military cargo aircraft of the US and others, particularly C-17s, the backbone of the US airlift fleet. The flights have been repositioning troops along NATO's eastern flank, but also moving weapons to the transfer points where they can be delivered to Ukraine. The pace of the flights has only increased.

US European Command (EUCOM) is at the heart of the massive shipment operation, using its liaison network with allies and partners to coordinate "in real time" to send materials into Ukraine, a second Defense official said.

The US and other NATO members have so far sent Ukraine 17,000 anti-tank missiles and 2,000 stinger anti-aircraft missiles, a senior US official told CNN.

The equipment being sent in is equipment on which the Ukrainians have already received training, including some "just-in-time" training in late December and early January, the senior official said, adding that the Ukrainians can "use proficiently" the vast majority of the military equipment being sent in.

The speed at which the US now delivers weapons to Ukraine is dramatically faster than just two months ago. Most of a $200 million package approved in late December was delivered within a month, though some ammunition has yet to be shipped, the official said.

Meanwhile, the complete $350 million package, which the official described as the largest presidential drawdown in history, should be completed within days or weeks.

[Acura604]

^^^ so then... the eventual shooting down of one or more of these cargo planes...it will happen...

then what???

[murd0c]

^^^ so then... the eventual shooting down of one or more of these cargo planes...it will happen...

then what???

That would be considered a war towards NATO and then shit might really hit the fan.

[pastarocket]

^^^ so then... the eventual shooting down of one or more of these cargo planes...it will happen...

then what???


As per murd0c's reply, it would be a war between NATO and Russia if crazy ass Putin decides to attack an Eastern European country that is part of NATO.

Any attack on a country that is part of NATO is an attack on NATO. Countries in NATO are bound by Article 5 of the NATO treaty to fight back against the aggressor:

The article, as the cornerstone of a treaty signed in 1949, establishes solidarity among member states and has been invoked only once. Article 5 is the cornerstone of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) and states that an attack on one member of NATO is an attack on all of its members.


Shit would really hit the fan at that point if Russia attacks a U.S. cargo plane or planes carrying weapons for Ukraine.

[Acura604]

MIND U - maybe i'm wrong but i dont think the NATO delivery planes are actually flying into uKraine - but just on the outskirts of Ukraine where there is some established but secret corridor for shipping into Ukraine.

[pastarocket]

Let's hope that those secret corridors for the US and European transport of weapons for Ukraine remain a secret from the Russian military.

[whitev70r]

Could Russia technically say NATO is supplying Ukraine with military weapons, missiles, and armoured vehicle and therefore, that NATO is involved in the war?

I mean I hope that is circumvented cuz I don't want WWIII.

[murd0c]

Could Russia technically say NATO is supplying Ukraine with military weapons, missiles, and armoured vehicle and therefore, that NATO is involved in the war?

I mean I hope that is circumvented cuz I don't want WWIII.

Yes which I'm really curious about, I guess its ok to supply Ukraine with weapons as long as it's the Ukrainian's which are using them?

[Great68]

I think those lines in the sand were established before the war started.

Would be crazy for Russia to change their mind all of a sudden and attack a NATO country over it. I don't think even Putin is crazy enough to attack NATO directly.

[murd0c]

at this point I wouldn't surprised if he couldn't attack a NATO country and all the nukes which are said he has are lies or they are old cold war out of date nukes.

[EvoFire]

at this point I wouldn't surprised if he couldn't attack a NATO country and all the nukes which are said he has are lies or they are old cold war out of date nukes.

That's something I've been thinking about, how many of the 5000 or so purported nukes that Russia has, actually works? Though realistically he only needs a couple hundred to effectively kill all life on the planet.

[murd0c]

I think he has nukes but how far they would be able to travel is the big question.

[SkunkWorks]

Classic saber rattling.

but no one's going to step up to call his bluff for obvious reasons. doubt poutine would be dumb enough to directly attack a nato country no matter how ludicrous the Ukrainian invasion is.

[SkinnyPupp]

Another one bites the dust POGGERS

https://twitter.com/IAPonomarenko/status/1500961629005139973

The story of how they were able to confirm his death is amusing (thread)

https://twitter.com/christogrozev/status/1500978613113524229

[inv4zn]

https://www.reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/comments/t91o5h/ukrainian_ambassador_displays_a_tweet_from/

I know the war is fucked up, but the Ukrainian ambassador to the UN is fucking hilarious.

[Manic!]

A lot of russian communication is unencrypted and you can pick it up with SDR (software-defined radio) if you are in the area. All you need is a $20 dongle and a computer.

You can also listen to these online:

https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineWarVideoReport/comments/t4cjq7/russian_military_radio_frequencies_antenna101/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3

[6793026]

Had someone say "I'm going to buy some war bonds for Ukraine"
a shit load of people said "why the fuck would you do so... its like the worse ROI"
"I'm buying war bonds to support the country."
Everyone went silent after that....

[Gumby]

Overheard at bank today:

Student: my mom sent me some money a few days ago but I haven’t received it yet
Teller: when did she send it?
Student: Feb 28
Teller: it can take 5-8 business days, but I can see if it’s pending in our system. *checks* I don’t see anything yet. What bank did she send it from?
Student: a Russian bank.
Awkward silence…
Teller: well, given the current situation, I honestly don’t know how long it will take to receive the transfer…

[SkinnyPupp]

Overheard at bank today:

Student: my mom sent me some money a few days ago but I haven’t received it yet
Teller: when did she send it?
Student: Feb 28
Teller: it can take 5-8 business days, but I can see if it’s pending in our system. *checks* I don’t see anything yet. What bank did she send it from?
Student: a Russian bank.
Awkward silence…
Teller: well, given the current situation, I honestly don’t know how long it will take to receive the transfer…
If the teller was honest they would have said FUCKING NEVER EleGiggle

A lot of russian communication is unencrypted and you can pick it up with SDR (software-defined radio) if you are in the area. All you need is a $20 dongle and a computer.

You can also listen to these online:

https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineWarVideoReport/comments/t4cjq7/russian_military_radio_frequencies_antenna101/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3

The funny thing about this is they had this brand new awesome secure communications system, but it needs 3G or 4G towers to work, and they destroyed them all 4Head

[AzNightmare]

Could Russia technically say NATO is supplying Ukraine with military weapons, missiles, and armoured vehicle and therefore, that NATO is involved in the war?

I mean I hope that is circumvented cuz I don't want WWIII.

Yes which I'm really curious about, I guess its ok to supply Ukraine with weapons as long as it's the Ukrainian's which are using them?


I asked about this earlier in the thread. Answer below:


While not being a full member, Ukraine has relations with NATO under "MAP (https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natolive/topics_37356.htm#:~:text=The%20Membership%20Action %20Plan%20(MAP,and%20Herzegovina%20is%20currently% 20participating.)" which means they will assist them depending on their needs, with possible membership later (which they declined to do last year)... They want to make it very clear that they aren't influencing Ukraine in any way, and let them decide what to do on their own. This is exactly what Putin is afraid of, and what he thinks is actually happening, so it didn't matter in the end.

It was supposed to deter Russia from fucking with them, while not giving them full membership which probably would have caused this invasion - and directly WW3 - earlier. Or maybe it would have been a stronger deterrent. Who knows with Putin?

[Great68]

Poland just handed over their entire fleet of MIG-29's, immediately and free of charge:

https://www.gov.pl/web/diplomacy/statement-of-the-minister-of-foreign-affairs-of-the-republic-of-poland-in-connection-with-the-statement-by-the-us-secretary-of-state-on-providing-airplanes-to-ukraine

[pastarocket]

Poland just handed over their entire fleet of MIG-29's, immediately and free of charge:

https://www.gov.pl/web/diplomacy/statement-of-the-minister-of-foreign-affairs-of-the-republic-of-poland-in-connection-with-the-statement-by-the-us-secretary-of-state-on-providing-airplanes-to-ukraine

Something tells me that Americans are going to do business with the Polish government in order to help out Ukraine too.

Maybe the US. will sell newer planes to Poland in exchange for that country to give away all their older MIG-29s to Ukraine?

Win, win, win for three countries. The Americans get to make money from selling new jets to Poland, Poland gets new planes, and Ukraine gets fighter jets free of charge.

[Traum]

Poland just handed over their entire fleet of MIG-29's, immediately and free of charge:

https://www.gov.pl/web/diplomacy/statement-of-the-minister-of-foreign-affairs-of-the-republic-of-poland-in-connection-with-the-statement-by-the-us-secretary-of-state-on-providing-airplanes-to-ukraine
Whoa~! I was not expecting that to happen so soon, esp when there doesn't seem to be any major changes with the war situation in Ukraine.

[nabs]

Poland just handed over their entire fleet of MIG-29's, immediately and free of charge:

https://www.gov.pl/web/diplomacy/statement-of-the-minister-of-foreign-affairs-of-the-republic-of-poland-in-connection-with-the-statement-by-the-us-secretary-of-state-on-providing-airplanes-to-ukraine

HUGE, hopefully setting a precedent and others will aid in the cause.

[blkgsr]

i just wonder how many of these countries are also going to be suppling pilots...not a problem until one get's shot down and possibly identified. but throw on a Ukrainian outfit

what about the missiles and bombs?

this is going to get interesting....what a fucking time to be alive (not in a good way all the shit most of us have lived through so far)

[Hondaracer]

How long does Russia tolerate this? Lol yea NATO isn’t directly getting involved but every western country is just funneling everything they can to Ukraine in these round about manners? Seems pretty sketch lol

[Great68]

Something tells me that Americans are going to do business with the Polish government in order to help out Ukraine too.

Maybe the US. will sell newer planes to Poland in exchange for that country to give away all their older MIG-29s to Ukraine?

Win, win, win for three countries. The Americans get to make money from selling new jets to Poland, Poland gets new planes, and Ukraine gets fighter jets free of charge.

Yeah exactly, they said the US would replace the MIGs with F16's.

[Great68]

How long does Russia tolerate this? Lol yea NATO isn’t directly getting involved but every western country is just funneling everything they can to Ukraine in these round about manners? Seems pretty sketch lol

So, apparently Poland is not giving these to Ukraine directly. They are actually giving them to the USA at the Rammstein airbase.

If the USA decides to let Ukraine have them, then, well...

[Teriyaki]

So, apparently Poland is not giving these to Ukraine directly. They are actually giving them to the USA at the Rammstein airbase.

If the USA decides to let Ukraine have them, then, well...

How funny would it be if the plan is to you know, have them "lost in transit". Oh, you found some fighter jets and ammunition abandoned on the side of the road? I guess go ahead and pick it up eh. I got nothing to do with it, nope.

[68style]

"We just left the keys in the ignition right after randomly deciding to splash some yellow and blue paint on the wingtips.... where did they go?"

[SkinnyPupp]

i just wonder how many of these countries are also going to be suppling pilots...not a problem until one get's shot down and possibly identified. but throw on a Ukrainian outfit

what about the missiles and bombs?

this is going to get interesting....what a fucking time to be alive (not in a good way all the shit most of us have lived through so far)
Ukraine has pilots that can fly MIG-29's, they just don't have the MIG-29's to keep up with the scale Russia is invading with. Well until now POGGERS

Edit: Spoke too soon (I just woke up!) looks like it fell through.

https://twitter.com/JacquiHeinrich/status/1501333459972800527

Explainer Thread:

https://twitter.com/michaeldweiss/status/1501294460981948418

[Manic!]

How long does Russia tolerate this? Lol yea NATO isn’t directly getting involved but every western country is just funneling everything they can to Ukraine in these round about manners? Seems pretty sketch lol

Whats russia going to do fight the whole world?

Countries have no control over what Ukriane does with the weapons they send. Just like gun manufactures are not responsible for a person using there product to commit mass murder.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/russia-recruiting-syrians-for-urban-combat-in-ukraine-u-s-officials-say-11646606234

Russia Recruiting Syrians for Urban Combat in Ukraine, U.S. Officials Say

Russia has offered volunteers from the country between $200 and $300 “to go to Ukraine and operate as guards” for six months at a time.

Only $300 for 6 months. Ukraine should offer them more to switch sides. Can't cost that much.

[pastarocket]

Props to the residents of the capital of Kyiv for turning their city into a fortress.

People who are working together, and ready to pay the ultimate sacrifice, to defend their home. Major props for their courage and strength.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/08/europe/kyiv-defense-ukraine-russia-intl-cmd/index.html

Kyiv, Ukraine (CNN)Just two weeks ago, residents of the Ukrainian capital were tending to their shops, teaching schoolchildren or parked at their office desks.

The Russian invasion changed all that. Fighting literally for their lives, civilians, turned into volunteer soldiers, helped construct defenses with military precision -- and they are now manning them.

Trenches run deep into the woods that surround the highway leading in Kyiv from the south. Fortified fallback positions are ready for whatever comes next. Huge metal anti-tank barriers known here as "the hedgehogs" because of their spiky shape are placed at regular intervals along the road. And makeshift blockades made of sandbags and huge concrete blocks stand at every exit..

The people of Kyiv are determined to defend their city.

Some flash a victory sign as vehicles pass by. The blue and yellow national flag can be seen everywhere.

Many volunteers do not seem to be dressed warm enough for the freezing weather. They wear civilian clothes, with big coats and sweatpants an unofficial uniform. Their pants are mostly green, black or camouflage motif -- not the military kind -- but the civilian pattern made for hunting.

Some, but not all volunteers, are armed with automatic rifles and big knives.

Oleksiy Goncharenko, a volunteer manning one of the defense positions in Kyiv, told CNN that he works in four-hour shifts at the checkpoint.

His face is red from the cold. "It's OK. Just cold," he says, adding that "locals are giving us soups and things like that."

Almost 40,000 volunteers joined the Territorial Defense Forces in the first two days after the invasion began, according to the Ukrainian armed forces' chief of staff. In Kyiv alone, 18,000 picked up weapons when authorities called for volunteers and reservists to do so.

Those who couldn't join the forces (so many people signed up that the Territorial Defense Forces had to start turning people away) are helping in other ways.

They are making Molotov cocktails, sewing camouflage nets for barricades, distributing food, hot drinks and cigarettes to those standing guard.

They are raising money for the military, building more road blocks and even painting over traffic signs in an attempt to confuse invading forces.

Near Kyiv police headquarters, eight men -- two policemen and six National Guards -- man a checkpoint, stopping every vehicle that comes through.

National Guard reservist Oleksandr, who asked CNN to only use his first name for his safety, said that he spends six hours at the post, then takes six hours to rest.

Usually, that means four hours sleep and two hours for anything else that needs to be taken care of: a shower, a shave, change of clothes, or a quick message to his family. Six hours is a long time to stand in the snow, he says -- it's cold.

Around the corner, a small shop remains open, even as every other business around it have closed. Liudmyla, who runs the shop, supplies coffee and cigarettes to the soldiers protecting the road in front of her store.

[inv4zn]

Honestly, let this be a gentle reminder just how fucking great we have it here in Canada.

Yes gas is $2.00/L, we have to wear masks indoors, and I have to deal with a toddler who keeps coming into our room in the middle of the night, but these are literally first world problems.

[68style]

Yah I ain't complaining about gas prices at all these days... Europe's been paying these prices for decades.

[whitev70r]

If paying $2.10/l will eff Putin ... bring it on. SMALL price to pay comparatively to those who lost lives and homes.

[murd0c]

People will be complaining real quick Gas is going up another 3 cents and diesel is going up 18 cents over night...

[westopher]

It will be the same people that complain about everything else all the time. Then they will blame the NDP, or the federal Libs without realizing that 85-90% of the increase in gas prices is going directly to the oil companies and about 2 cents are related to rising taxes.

[Gumby]

Apparently, in a speech to Republican donors, Trump suggested that the US should put the Chinese flag on F-22 jets and bomb the shit out of Russia. Then say “China did it, we didn’t do it, China did it”.

It might be funny for us to joke about this stuff, but what kind of (former) world leader would joke about starting WW3?

[Hondaracer]

Damn, McDonald’s closes 800 restaurants in Russia..

Fuck they sre going to be worse off than they were in the crumbling Soviet Union real quick

[Teriyaki]

Damn, McDonald’s closes 800 restaurants in Russia..

Fuck they sre going to be worse off than they were in the crumbling Soviet Union real quick

How to turn your country into North Korea with this one neat trick.

[SkinnyPupp]

Apparently, in a speech to Republican donors, Trump suggested that the US should put the Chinese flag on F-22 jets and bomb the shit out of Russia. Then say “China did it, we didn’t do it, China did it”.

It might be funny for us to joke about this stuff, but what kind of (former) world leader would joke about starting WW3?
Just imagine how much more of a disaster this would have been if Trump had been re-elected... Apparently Putin was counting on him eventually being able to take America out of NATO... As much as Russia is failing in their invasion of Ukraine so far, no US support at all would probably be a disaster.

[AzNightmare]

Yah I ain't complaining about gas prices at all these days... Europe's been paying these prices for decades.

No wonder they get all the fun subcompact hot hatches...

[whitev70r]

Putin managed to do what Trump couldn't ... get NATO alliance nations to pay up their fair share. Every member now upping their contribution.

[68style]

I felt like all the noise about chains closing in Russia was kind of funny… I mean…. It’s not like they can get supplies to run their stores anyway ?

[inv4zn]

News these days would be very different if Trump pulled out of NATO. He then had the fucking gall to recently take credit for NATO itself, the slimy piece of shit.

[Manic!]

I felt like all the noise about chains closing in Russia was kind of funny… I mean…. It’s not like they can get supplies to run their stores anyway ?

McDonald's is not importing burgers. McDonald's will still be playing all works which kind of defeats the purpose.

Massive lineups at Mcdonalds in russia for the last day.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ThatsInsane/comments/t9rblk/russians_waiting_in_massive_queues_after/

[68style]

^ I doubt all the ancillary stuff (packaging, etc) is obtained in Russia

[Manic!]

^ I doubt all the ancillary stuff (packaging, etc) is obtained in Russia

all the food-related stuff would be made in russia packaging maybe china. They have 850 locations in russia.


https://i.redd.it/daubxz0uw9m81.jpg

[blkgsr]

this is prime opportunity for all these guys that still have the itch to fight plus all the rando wanna-be's to try get some

hopefully this Wali guy is getting paired up with the higher powers and used strategically

[Y2K_o__o]

People will be complaining real quick Gas is going up another 3 cents and diesel is going up 18 cents over night...

https://www.wsj.com/articles/saudi-emirati-leaders-decline-calls-with-biden-during-ukraine-crisis-11646779430

it will go up even more.. Saudi and UAE just don't give a damn on oil supply.

[pastarocket]

Putin is a fucking criminal! -committing war crimes on the most vulnerable people in a society: children.

The Russians did a missile strike on a maternity hospital. Hospital staff and children are dead, and buried under the rubble.

Fuck Putin!!!

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/attacks-hits-ukraine-maternity-hospital-officials-say/ar-AAUOM3p?ocid=entnewsntp

KYIV, Ukraine (AP) — A Russian attack severely damaged a maternity hospital in the besieged port city of Mariupol, Ukraine said Wednesday, and citizens trying to escape shelling on the outskirts of Kyiv streamed toward the capital amid warnings from the West that Moscow’s invasion is about to take a more brutal and indiscriminate turn.

[emoji2398] Provided by The Canadian Press
President Volodymyr Zelenskyy wrote on Twitter that there were “people, children under the wreckage” of the hospital and called the strike an “atrocity.” Authorities said they were trying to establish how many people had been killed or wounded.

Video shared by Zelenskyy showed cheerfully painted hallways strewn with twisted metal and room after room with blown-out windows. Floors were covered in wreckage.

Outside, mangled cars burned, in a video provided by the Mariupol city council, with heavy damage to at least three two-story buildings. Much of the front of one building had been ripped away. The council said the damage was “colossal.”

https://i.cbc.ca/1.6378540.1646845139!/fileImage/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/16x9_780/russia-ukraine-war.jpg

This image taken from video issued by Mariupol city council shows a maternity hospital in the besieged port city after what Ukrainian officials said was a Russian attack on Wednesday. (The Associated Press)

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/attacks-hits-ukraine-maternity-hospital-officials-say/ar-AAUOM3p?ocid=entnewsntp

[underscore]

i just wonder how many of these countries are also going to be suppling pilots...not a problem until one get's shot down and possibly identified. but throw on a Ukrainian outfit

what about the missiles and bombs?

this is going to get interesting....what a fucking time to be alive (not in a good way all the shit most of us have lived through so far)

Officially maybe not, but if a bunch of pilots want to volunteer for the Ukrainian Foreign Legion then what's stopping them?

[SkinnyPupp]

Scary development: Russia is accusing Ukraine and US of "preparing to frame Russia using chemical weapons"

In other words, Russia is planning on using them, and this is their bullshit excuse

[Teriyaki]

Scary development: Russia is accusing Ukraine and US of "preparing to frame Russia using chemical weapons"

In other words, Russia is planning on using them, and this is their bullshit excuse

At what point does the rest of the world go, that's fucked and just take out this regime?

[tarobbt]

Scary development: Russia is accusing Ukraine and US of "preparing to frame Russia using chemical weapons"

In other words, Russia is planning on using them, and this is their bullshit excuse

i mean russia used novichok agents a few years ago so it wouldnt be surprising if they started using chemical weapons

[Manic!]

https://nationalpost.com/news/world/exclusive-so-many-canadian-fighters-in-ukraine-they-have-their-own-battalion-source-says

Exclusive: So many Canadian fighters in Ukraine, they have their own battalion, source says

The International Legion for the Territorial Defence of Ukraine says the 550 would-be fighters from Canada are based in Kyiv

[pastarocket]

At what point does the rest of the world go, that's fucked and just take out this regime?

-really complicated from a geopolitical standpoint.

Biden has low support from Americans now as President. Americans don't want their country to engage in an all out war with Russia.

The US and Europeans don't want to enforce a no fly zone over Ukraine out of fear that Putin would really go mad and declare war on NATO.

China is playing the diplomatic card game of silently supporting Russia with natural gas agreements and wheat purchases and not openly condemning or supporting Russia.

I don't think that the Kung Fu Panda is going to take the initiative and tell the Russian bear to declare a cease fire.

I think that the end game for this Russian invasion needs to come from within the Russian military and government.

An inside job. A military coup. A bunch of generals say "Fuck it. We're taking out this nut job". A mutiny.

[SkinnyPupp]

Wali has arrived in Ukraine and is ready to take down some invaders

https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1501739564511240192

Elite Canadian sniper joins Ukraine in fight against Russia (https://nypost.com/2022/03/09/elite-canadian-sniper-joins-ukraine-in-fight-against-russia/)

[Gumby]

Wow, my definition of a productive day is very different from Wali’s definition…

[Hehe]

Wali has arrived....



For some reason my mind read that part with the Starcraft Protoss voice. :fuckthatshit:

[Traum]

I think that the end game for this Russian invasion needs to come from within the Russian military and government.

IMO, the (realistic) best we can hope for in the Ukraine invasion is for Russia to realize how costly and unsustainable an on-going and drawn out military campaign is, thereby causing them to recall / withdraw their forces back to Crimea, Donbas / Luhansk, and the whole Ukraine - Belarus - Russia region resorts to an uncomfortable truce. A senior US Defence official has indicated that Russia has deployed nearly all of its combat-capable troops to Ukraine. That means if Russia still cannot take over the front line battle zones soon, they would very likely be unable to keep up with the war effort as their losses mount, and their supplies dwindle down. Even if they were able to make some headway in Kyiv or other frontline cities, it is questionable whether they'd have any excess capability to deploy to fight other parts of Ukraine -- venturing further west means a longer supply line, and you have to leave some troops behind in the city(ies) that you have defeated and occupy.

[SkinnyPupp]

Some nice footage of drones taking out Russian tanks

They say (https://en.interfax.com.ua/news/general/810680.html) they took out the entire regiment, including the commander.

https://twitter.com/DI_Ukraine/status/1501849922206937090

[WD-40]

Wali has arrived in Ukraine and is ready to take down some invaders

https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1501739564511240192

Elite Canadian sniper joins Ukraine in fight against Russia (https://nypost.com/2022/03/09/elite-canadian-sniper-joins-ukraine-in-fight-against-russia/)

In other words, don't fuck with us Canadians.

This one hero equates to a hundred thousand freedom convoy whiners. This guy IS fighting for freedom and justice.

I just hope he and his family are kept safe. I can see Putin putting out an order for this guy's head. Carpet bomb the area he is spotted in. Yeah, watched too many movies.


Also, to the nut jobs we have in this country. The russian people are not the bad guys. The oligarchs and Putin are the bad guys. Please do not harass businesses here in canada that are run by canadians of russian descent. I heard of vandalism at community centres and places where russian people hang out. Lots of russians in Richmond. I did not know that.

[68style]

https://i.imgur.com/D8dYcmOh.jpg

[EvoFire]

Russian origin is a complicated thing. For example there are many Jewish people that fled to eastern Europe and stayed there after WW2. They've assimilated taking on Russian names as many have been there for generations. There's a few friends and acquaintances I know who are from Russia and speak Russian but aren't ethnically part of any Russian groups. They immigrated from Russia to Israel, then to Canada.

[Acura604]

https://www.cbc.ca/player/play/2011276867586/

Russia will never recover anytime soon - such a waste.

[Hondaracer]

Russian envelops a HUGE landmass spanning two continents. A person born to “Russian” parents in St.Petersburg is nothing like a person born in the bordering regions of Khazakstan, Mongolia etc. it’s very fascinating you can have people who look what you’d associate as 100% Asian could have a Russian lineage spanning hundreds of years. On top of that you’ve got the enclaves of the former union in the countries that made up Yugoslavia etc.

Yuri selling Borscht in New West could have way less Russian in them than a guy who associates closer to Mongolian. Not like “Russia” actually cares about those remote outposts though lol.

Btw, if you want to talk about snipers killing Russians, should check out Simo Hayha, a Finnish Farmer who enlisted in the winter war:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simo_Häyhä

Over 500 confirmed kills, people speculate it’s more like 700. While Finnish people do look to him as this folk lore hero, they don’t have this circle jerk attitude like the USA does with Chris Kyle. Simo was a farmer who took up arms to defend his country, and when asked at the end of the war how he felt about it, he replied with somthing like “I did a job I was asked to do the best I could”

My background is Finnish and while I have no direct grudge with Russians, ALOT of older Fins fucking hate Russians, mainly because they pulled similar shit to what’s going on now back during the winter war etc. where they annexed Vipuri/Vyborg and the port there. Many people still alive today had their family homes burned and taken to never return, much like may happen today.

[Manic!]

https://twitter.com/YourAnonTV/status/1501942349550653443?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5 Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1501942349550653443%7Ctwgr% 5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.jpost.com%2Fbreaking-news%2Farticle-700940

JUST IN: #Anonymous has successfully breached and leaked the database of Roskomnadzor, the Russian federal executive agency responsible for monitoring, controlling and censoring #Russian mass media, releasing to the public over 360K files. #OpRussia

[CivicBlues]

Oh goodie maybe we can have a sniper duel. No one else remembers this movie set in WW2 Stalingrad?

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BYWFlY2E3ODQtZWNiNi00ZGU4LTkzNWEtZTQ2ZTViMWRhYj IzL2ltYWdlXkEyXkFqcGdeQXVyNTAyODkwOQ@@._V1_FMjpg_U X1000_.jpg

[GLOW]

Over 500 confirmed kills, people speculate it’s more like 700.

holy smokes, he's the real winter soldier

[SkinnyPupp]

Estimates of Russian casualties, made over the last few days:

Ukraine: 12,000
EU: 9,000
US: 6,000
Russia: 500

[blkgsr]

uh?

[SkinnyPupp]

If you recall, there was word of Belarusian troops joining the invasion of Ukraine... The theory, it turns out, is that the military wasn't into that, and refused to do so.

So now Russia has attacked Belarus, saying Ukraine is behind it

https://twitter.com/IuliiaMendel/status/1502287960657510403

Cartoon villains

[GLOW]

waitaminute.....

trump suggested to attack russia and put chinese flags on the planes to trick russia it was china...

so russia basically did the trump trick on belarus??!!!

is this real life??????????????

[westopher]

Shit. One of my staff members is from Belarus. I hope his family isn’t affected. I can tell this whole situation has him on edge, for good reason.

[68style]

Great story on The Athletic about former NHL star Alexei Zhitnik staying in his homeland and using his pull / resources to move supplies and help people out of the country. Blows my mind what he says about Russian players he used to play with. It's behind a pay wall but I subscribe, so I'll copy and paste it here:


‘Nobody’s going to back down’: Former NHL All-Star Alexei Zhitnik, from the front lines in Ukraine

When the siren screams, you have less than 10 minutes to find shelter. Grab your ID, passport and whatever you need to keep yourself warm in the frigid Kyiv night.

Leave the rest behind.

It’s 23 flights of stairs from the apartment to the street and then there’s a rush of people heading toward the bomb shelter that used to be a parking garage.

Packed between the concrete pillars, you huddle and wait. You listen to the siren, praying that silence breaks the cry — and not more explosions from rockets you’ve seen in the sky.

In the crush of fellow Ukrainians, it doesn’t matter that the ID you hold carries the name of one of the most beloved hockey players in the country’s history. It doesn’t matter that you played 1,085 NHL games for five different teams or that you were a two-time All-Star. It doesn’t matter that you once wore the Russian sweater, winning an Olympic silver medal — or that you finished your playing days with Dynamo Moscow.

That country is now dropping bombs on the city you grew up in, a homeland you refuse to leave.

“This is not about sports. It’s about defending your country,” says Alexei Zhitnik. “It’s not show-business anymore.”

Since Russia invaded on Feb. 24, Zhitnik has helped in the effort to defend his country however he is able. The longtime NHL defenseman has lived in Ukraine since he retired and is now the president of Sokil Kyiv, the storied Ukrainian hockey team that he grew up playing for in the country’s capital.

For the past two weeks though, he has been just like every other Ukrainian citizen ready to die for his country.

“God has the power over what’s going to happen with you,” Zhitnik says. “Basically, if something is going to happen, something is going to happen … a lot of people have died already, especially civilians.”

Two rockets recently hit a television tower and damaged the nearby Palace of Sports, the team’s arena in the heart of Kyiv, he says. A friend filmed the explosion of the second rocket hitting the tower, next to the rink Zhitnik has played on since he was young and where his No. 13 now hangs. Another video following the explosion shows four scorched bodies, as smoke rises into burning trees. The hands of one body, facing the sky, reach out as though trying to block an unseen force. The bodies lay near the shattered, blackened façade of the arena — across the street from a seared television tower. Sirens wail in the distance as burning ash drifts around the arriving emergency responders.

“It doesn’t matter, ice rink, hotel or medical building — anything can happen,” Zhitnik says. “Nobody really expected it was going to happen in real life. Especially in the 21st century, in the middle of Europe. And it’s not a one-day, two-day army operation. It’s a war.”

Zhitnik and his family remain in the middle of it. As a 49-year-old, he must stay in the country. Under martial law, no man between the ages of 18 and 60 is allowed to leave. But regardless, Zhitnik says he wouldn’t go.

“I’m going to do whatever I can to try to help,” he says.

His wife, Lyudmila, has vowed to stay by his side. Her mother and brother have stayed, too. Zhitnik’s identical twin brother, Dmitri, and older sister, Anna, have also remained.

Since the invasion began, Zhitnik has traveled across Ukraine aiding in the safe passage of women and children to neighboring countries, like Poland. More than 2 million Ukrainians have left the country since the invasion began, according to the United Nations. They provide food, beverages and gasoline to people who need it at the checkpoints mile after mile, marked by concrete barricades as Ukrainian special forces check IDs, search vehicles, and question where travelers are coming from and where they are going.

Zhitnik communicates with friends in the Ukrainian special forces to find out where they can be of most help. He moves goods and people for the army as needed, while still working to get children and women out of the country.

Some of his friends in the eastern part of Ukraine are providing food, water and medical supplies to Ukrainian troops. Others have joined local defense groups, outside of the army, which patrol streets inside in the cities. Some have taken up arms. Zhitnik requested weapons but was told he had to wait until those with military training or experience in combat were armed first. Citizens with their own guns, like hunting rifles, now carry them in case they come into contact with Russian troops.

Overseas in New York, Zhitnik’s adult son and daughter check in with their father constantly, trying to make sure he is all right while watching the news unfold on television. But the images they are see are nothing like the reality he is witnessing on the ground, he says. Zhitnik has watched rockets fly overhead as he’s driven the streets of Kyiv. He can hear the bombs exploding and see the smoke rising. He’s seeing the firsthand images of carnage that, he says, people beyond Ukraine’s borders can’t quite comprehend. He believes the goal is to exterminate the Ukrainian people.

“They are saying they hit the army points,” he says. “But I was driving, and I saw the buildings. I heard everything. I saw two rockets flying over my head.”

Throughout the invasion, Zhitnik has been in touch with Russian friends from the game, who he says, seem to be swayed by the rhetoric that justifies the invasion and seems to sanitize the devastation of the attacks.

“For me, I don’t understand how those Russian people don’t know what’s going on,” he says. “They ask me what’s going on and I say ‘fellas, just open the Internet.’ … They think Putin’s doing everything right. Like zombie, zombie, zombie.

“I know people for a long time. I just can’t believe they’re thinking they do right. They didn’t know how many people already died, on both sides. … And they have no idea what’s going on.”

But in the NHL, where he spent 18 years, Zhitnik says he is not surprised that more Russian players haven’t spoken out. He believes that many are afraid to speak out, knowing the trouble that could bring.

“If somebody from the NHL, Russian players, are going to say something against the war, they’re going to be in trouble. They’re just afraid,” he says. “I mean, some people are stupid. I understand that. Some people are zombies. They have no idea. And some people are just afraid.”

Other Ukrainian NHL players have tried to share the realities of what is happening in their country.

Ruslan Fedotenko, who grew up in Kyiv and won two Stanley Cups, is watching the devastation unfold from Tampa Bay as he tries to stay in contact with his family and friends.

“For what?” he said, of the devastation unfolding in his homeland. “It’s just mind-boggling. It’s surreal.”

Dmitri Khristich is in Poltava, about 200 miles from Kyiv. The former Washington Capital — who scored more points in the NHL than any other Ukraine-born player — has pleaded with the international community to send military support and close the skies over Ukraine.

“You’re going to let us be killed,” he said.

As an 8 p.m. curfew falls across Ukraine, Zhitnik echoes those pleas.

He believes the Ukrainians can hold their country, if only they can stop the rockets falling from the sky. He can see on the TV set he’s watching as he talks. He’s seen on the streets he drives each day.

“Everybody understands that if they close the sky over Ukraine, we’re going to be great on the ground,” he says. “On the ground we can do fine.”

And while he doesn’t know how long the fighting will last, Zhitnik says he will remain in Ukraine until the war ends, trying to help however he can.

Through another night, indoors, he listens for sirens while praying for silence. Regardless of what comes — or at what cost — Zhitnik believes his homeland will endure.

“We’re going to win — that’s for sure,” he says. “What price we’re going to pay for that? It’s tough to predict. But nobody’s going to back down.”

[Manic!]

Kid Carson is now pro russia. It's like they all belong to the same chat group.

https://open.spotify.com/episode/5r95zL4HfHUXMKMrdA29Iv?si=hLgMlkbWRjauvIwsfhHiQQ&utm_source=copy-link

[hud 91gt]

Kid Carson is a nut case lol.

[SkinnyPupp]

The onslaught will never end; they are the Zerg

https://twitter.com/TheStudyofWar/status/1502422403393237002

For all the losses we've been watching Russia take, it's only been about 10% of the forces they sent in. It's inevitable that they'll overwhelm and take the country. At an insanely high cost of course - literally ruining their own country - but it will happen without NATO stepping in, or someone overthrowing the villain (it's surreal to use that term literally). And then they have to try to occupy which will lead to even more casualties

[westopher]

Kid Carson has always been a piece of shit where ever he goes. He’s gone off the deep end now to the walking stereotype of a 40 year old white trash man with a grade 10 education that still managed to make a bit of money.

[SkinnyPupp]

I knew that name sounded familar, and he was one of the hosts of Z95.3 EleGiggle

And of course he's on the long list of grifter podcasters

[hud 91gt]

He’s been back on Z for the last year. His contract was coming to an end, and I’m assuming wasn’t offered what he wanted. I was listening when he made his big anti vaccine, conspiracy theory ending before he got canned. I was like “oh here it comes” haha. He’s always wanted fame and attention which is what I thought it was all about. But now I think he’s just crazy.

[Acura604]

Inching closer to WW3

https://www.cnn.com/europe/live-news/ukraine-russia-putin-news-03-12-22/index.html

Russia issues warning to US that it would fire on weapon shipments to Ukraine, raising the risk of direct confrontation between Moscow and a NATO country.

[pastarocket]

Inching closer to WW3

https://www.cnn.com/europe/live-news/ukraine-russia-putin-news-03-12-22/index.html

Russia issues warning to US that it would fire on weapon shipments to Ukraine, raising the risk of direct confrontation between Moscow and a NATO country.

Oh boy. Shit got even more real. :facepalm:

[SkinnyPupp]

Russia isn't long for this world if WW3 ends up happening. I can see it ending pretty swiftly, and the country of "Russia" no longer exists after. Instead it would probably be divided into an EU region, and a China region. Or maybe a few more, going to Middle Eastern countries, Korea, Japan, etc.

Crazy crazy crazy to think of how badly Putin is fucking his people over. All to get rid of a Jewish Nazi president. :fulloffuck:

[whitev70r]

Someone from the inside has got to find a way to take him out.

[68style]

Honestly thought there was absolutely 0 chance of their being another world war, especially in my lifetime... but here we are on the brink of one.

[SkinnyPupp]

So now Iran is launching missiles at the US embassy in Iraq WutFace

https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1502782218841776137

[westopher]

This is only going to end with a dead Putin. How that happens is up in the air. Otherwise the goalposts will just keep moving as what is “an attack” on Russia, the deeper he ends up in the shit. Unless the world just leaves Ukraine to die essentially, and Russia ends up taking over, which
A) would be very unfortunate that we left them in that situation
B) is unlikely that Ukraine would ever stop fighting

That said, I sure as shit don’t want to be drafted into world war 3 and go die.

[whitev70r]

From CBC, here is Putin's demands to end of war. I think it's time to agree. Ukraine can join NATO in 50 years when Putin dies or is replaced as President.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/russia-ukraine-war-1.6382718

Putin lays out terms for ending war
French and German leaders spoke Saturday with Russian President Vladimir Putin in a failed attempt to reach a cease-fire.

According to the Kremlin, Putin laid out terms for ending the war. For ending hostilities, Moscow has demanded that:

* Ukraine drop its bid to join NATO and adopt a neutral status.
* Acknowledge the Russian sovereignty over Crimea, which it annexed from Ukraine in 2014.
* Recognize the independence of separatist regions in the country's east.
* Agree to demilitarize.

[Manic!]

* Agree to demilitarize.

So the next time he invades it would be a lot easier? That's not going to happen.

[JDMDreams]

Wait what why did Iran attack Iraq? Ww3? :pokerface:

[Teriyaki]

So the next time he invades it would be a lot easier? That's not going to happen.

Yea, just see what happened last time they gave up their weapons. FeelsBadMan

[whitev70r]

So the next time he invades it would be a lot easier? That's not going to happen.

What is the alternative? If the war continues ... effectively, Ukraine will demilitarize by force and lose a lot more.

I mean hell, right now, it's NATO providing military equipment and artillery to Ukraine as it is.

[Manic!]

What is the alternative? If the war continues ... effectively, Ukraine will demilitarize by force and lose a lot more.

I mean hell, right now, it's NATO providing military equipment and artillery to Ukraine as it is.

How are you going to have a country without a military? Putin will be able to take more land any time he chooses.

[320icar]

That said, I sure as shit don’t want to be drafted into world war 3 and go die.

We wouldn’t be front line. You’d work cantine and I’d be general supply/warehouse. We’d be wasted anywhere near the front.

[Rallydrv]

Wait what why did Iran attack Iraq? Ww3? :pokerface:

They attacked American site in Iraq,

America seized two Iran fuel tankers. Kinda stupid when u r close to reaching a nuke deal, while u r hurting about gas prices if u ask me.

[inv4zn]

From CBC, here is Putin's demands to end of war. I think it's time to agree. Ukraine can join NATO in 50 years when Putin dies or is replaced as President.

According to the Kremlin, Putin laid out terms for ending the war. For ending hostilities, Moscow has demanded that:

* Ukraine drop its bid to join NATO and adopt a neutral status.
* Acknowledge the Russian sovereignty over Crimea, which it annexed from Ukraine in 2014.
* Recognize the independence of separatist regions in the country's east.
* Agree to demilitarize.

Why the hell would Ukraine agree? Russia has shown over and over their word doesn't mean shit.

Imagine your neighbour took over your backyard a year ago, and now he's in your house stealing your shit. Police won't do anything other than giving you a baseball bat to fight him with, but the dude is 10x your size. After putting up a fight, he tells you he'll leave you alone if you give up your kitchen, and agree to remove all the locks from your doors. But he promises to leave you alone now.

Like, would you agree?

[Gumby]

Why the hell would Ukraine agree? Russia has shown over and over their word doesn't mean shit.

Imagine your neighbour took over your backyard a year ago, and now he's in your house stealing your shit. Police won't do anything other than giving you a baseball bat to fight him with, but the dude is 10x your size. After putting up a fight, he tells you he'll leave you alone if you give up your kitchen, and agree to remove all the locks from your doors. But he promises to leave you alone now.

Like, would you agree?
It’s really sad, but Ukraine is screwed… they can’t agree to those terms, but they can’t not agree either… Putin is going to do whatever it takes to get what he wants.

[Traum]

At a practical level, the first 3 of Russia's demands are already a done deal, or came very close to becoming a done deal.

Before the actual war broke out, news reports were indicating that Zelensky was ready to drop Ukraine's NATO application as an incentive to resolve the war threat diplomatically.

Crimea is already under Russian control.

Donbas and Luhansk were already very pro-Russia, and with the way things are now, as long as Russia doesn't fall apart, it would be very difficult for these two regions to willingly return to become part of Ukraine.

So the sticking point is really the final demand -- demilitarize. Ukraine already got burned once when they gave up their nukes. But at least last time there was UK, US, and France signing the deal. This time they'd literally need to sign a deal with the Devil himself, and at gunpoint no less.

How can you agree to "peace terms" like that? But at the same time, how can you not?

Why the hell would Ukraine agree? Russia has shown over and over their word doesn't mean shit.

Imagine your neighbour took over your backyard a year ago, and now he's in your house stealing your shit. Police won't do anything other than giving you a baseball bat to fight him with, but the dude is 10x your size. After putting up a fight, he tells you he'll leave you alone if you give up your kitchen, and agree to remove all the locks from your doors. But he promises to leave you alone now.

Like, would you agree?

[inv4zn]

They've literally said they're not giving up, and the entire country has shown that. Groups of citizens standing in front of military vehicles telling them to fuck off, is pretty powerful.

Ukraine, and Zelensky, are doing everything right at this moment, given their fucked up circumstances. There is news that Putin expected to roll through Ukraine in 5 days, and is livid that it wasn't a walk in the park. There are reports that he put FSB honchos under house arrest, blaming them for his failures. Kinda what happens when you surround yourself with yes-men.

[Mr.Money]

surprised russia has piss poor training.


saw a video where they were ducking and running right middle of a highway as sitting ducks and running for cover not to the sides but still pushing ahead.... run & duck..


snipers or 240 machine gunners are gonna have a hayday on kills... that's a massive kill zone in warfare.

[Manic!]

Fucker Carlson has to be a Russian asset.

https://www.businessinsider.com/kremlin-memo-ukraine-war-russian-tucker-carlson-mother-jones-2022-3?amp&utm_source=reddit.com


Leaked Kremlin war memo instructs Russian state media to feature Fox News host Tucker Carlson 'as much as possible,' says Mother Jones report

[320icar]

Who gives a shit. Tucker Carson is one of the biggest pieces of shit on Fox News, and that’s saying something

[68style]

Unfortunately he’s top dog at Fox and also has a massive share of not just old people viewership, he’s big in the 25-54 segment too… there’s a lot of people listening to that piece of shit and every word he says

[GLOW]

i have to say as much as i dislike him, it was quite impressive how cucker made ted cruz bend the knee and beg for mercy

[SkinnyPupp]

Unfortunately he’s top dog at Fox and also has a massive share of not just old people viewership, he’s big in the 25-54 segment too… there’s a lot of people listening to that piece of shit and every word he says
All of these ghouls own the ratings when there's something happening.. Even when ranked by 18-49! WutFace

Only sports and pro wrestling can compete

https://showbuzzdaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/2022-3-8-Tue-FinalCable-LSD.png

[westopher]

It's funny cause they always talked about how TV fucks kids up back when we were young, like watching violent movies and crude humour or whatever, but it's stupid adults that really get fucked up by TV and FB and whatever else.

[underscore]

"All those cartoons will rot their brains!"

Meanwhile...

[spoon.ek9]

The only thing The Simpsons, South Park and Family Guy gave me was a sense of humour peepoClap

[westopher]

They sure as shit never convinced me that an illness was a hoax orchestrated by the first time in history countries have ever worked together as a global plot to enrich bill gates via mandatory vaccines orchestrated by George Soros to channel Justin Trudeau to enforce the new communism world order and our only hope for salvation was a nazi who makes pillows.

[SkinnyPupp]

Amazing footage using a consumer drone to spot Russian forces, and then BLOW THOSE INVADERS TO KINGDOM COME!!!!!!!!! :awwyeah:

https://streamable.com/orrmkv

[AzNightmare]

Amazing footage using a consumer drone to spot Russian forces, and then BLOW THOSE INVADERS TO KINGDOM COME!!!!!!!!! :awwyeah:

https://streamable.com/orrmkv

That's some crazy zoom...

[snowball]

Man, warfare is really not what is used to be...

[donk.]

They sure as shit never convinced me that an illness was a hoax orchestrated by the first time in history countries have ever worked together as a global plot to enrich bill gates via mandatory vaccines orchestrated by George Soros to channel Justin Trudeau to enforce the new communism world order and our only hope for salvation was a nazi who makes pillows.


Anyone else try to put a couple commas or periods in this? :drunk:

[hud 91gt]

Man, warfare is really not what is used to be...

Really?


I’m actually shocked seeing some of this footage. In my head I was thinking no war could exist. Press a button, and war is over…. Troops, tanks…. Rifles??? Really.

[whitev70r]

Anyone else try to put a couple commas or periods in this? :drunk:

Probably voice to text dictation ?

[westopher]

The point of it is to be a rambling incoherent mess, because I’m comparing their brain activity to someone 15 beers deep crashing a speeding mustang into every parked car on a busy residential street for coming to such absurd conclusion.
Just trying to create some imagery.

[whitev70r]

Ah ... creative use of literary structure!

[Acura604]

Estonia...a NATO country...

The parliament of Estonia on Monday called for UN member states to "take immediate steps to establish a no-fly zone" over Ukraine to prevent further civilian casualties as Russia’s multi-front war against the country rages on.

Estonia is the first NATO member nation to have a body formally call for the implementation of a no-fly zone amid Russia’s ongoing invasion.

"The Riigikogu (Parliament of Estonia) expresses its support to the defenders and the people of the state of Ukraine in their fight against the Russian Federation that has launched a criminal war, and calls on showing absolute support to Ukraine in its war for maintaining its freedom, sovereignty and territorial integrity," Estonia's parliament said in a statement Monday.

[TOS'd]

Ukraine spec BMW 6 Series:

https://funker530.com/video/ukrainians-mount-50-cal-machine-gun-to-bmw-drop-top/

[mikemhg]

Really?


I’m actually shocked seeing some of this footage. In my head I was thinking no war could exist. Press a button, and war is over…. Troops, tanks…. Rifles??? Really.

I think what he more means is how much war has changed fundamentally.

These affordable payload carrying drones change the entire landscape of how war is fought, and how it will be fought in the future.

It really evens the battlefield for countries with smaller GDPs, and the lack of ability to invest in their military in a traditional sense. Some predict this will cause a lot of issues in the future once we start seeing them utilized more broadly in smaller country to country conflicts and civil wars.

[blkgsr]

but also surveillance. you no longer need planes and expensive equipment to see what's going on a couple miles away. Just fly a $1000 drone you bought from best buy and take a look.

obviously over simplified but you get the point.

[BIC_BAWS]

The point of it is to be a rambling incoherent mess, because I’m comparing their brain activity to someone 15 beers deep crashing a speeding mustang into every parked car on a busy residential street for coming to such absurd conclusion.
Just trying to create some imagery.Wow this sounds oddly specific. Let's add an image to this scenario.
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220314/b7fd427572c548ae4d4dcf27f2442227.jpg

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[Manic!]

putins daughters house raided by an activist in france.

https://twitter.com/AmichaiStein1/status/1503154601222152192?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5 Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1503154601222152192%7Ctwgr% 5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.newsweek.com%2Fvladimir-putin-daughters-house-raided-activist-ukraine-flag-france-pierre-afner-1687629

Another one lives in England. His girlfriend and 4 kids are in Switzerland. What pisses me off is he can kill men women and children every day but his family can't be touched.

[68style]

Most guys in the world: Sweating about explaining to their gf/wife that they want to go out for a boys night

Putin to his gf: I'm going to start a process towards 10's of thousands of needless deaths tomorrow, we coo? ivi.ru and chill later?

[hud 91gt]

I think what he more means is how much war has changed fundamentally.

These affordable payload carrying drones change the entire landscape of how war is fought, and how it will be fought in the future.

It really evens the battlefield for countries with smaller GDPs, and the lack of ability to invest in their military in a traditional sense. Some predict this will cause a lot of issues in the future once we start seeing them utilized more broadly in smaller country to country conflicts and civil wars.
That’s exactly what I mean…. I’m surprised to see tanks/people on the ground…. I’m expecting just drones/artillery. Sure it’s changed, but not nearly as much as I had thought it would.

[68style]

I was also surprised... but now I just think it's mostly playing out like this cuz Russia's military just kinda sucks?

Or they were forced into doing it this way because they want to control the country, so they need to occupy. Still seems extremely crude.

[whitev70r]

Movies would have you believe that soldiers/generals go into a situation control room here in NA with 20 different screens and point to an area and a missile would be sent to strike.

[Manic!]

This looks like a video game. Look at the feet 18 sec in.

https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineWarVideoReport/comments/tdxdbb/btr4_shoots_russian_equipment_in_mariupol/

[SkinnyPupp]

This looks like a video game. Look at the feet 18 sec in.

https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineWarVideoReport/comments/tdxdbb/btr4_shoots_russian_equipment_in_mariupol/
Incredible! This is what that vehicle looks like with its 30mm gun

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9a/BTR-4%2C_Kyiv_2021%2C_13.jpg/1200px-BTR-4%2C_Kyiv_2021%2C_13.jpg

Usually not a huge fan of war footage, but when there is so clearly good and evil in a conflict - this is a straight up terrorist invasion - it's nice to see the bad guys getting destroyed.

[Hondaracer]

Movies would have you believe that soldiers/generals go into a situation control room here in NA with 20 different screens and point to an area and a missile would be sent to strike.

That’s kind of how it works though.

My grandfather on my moms side was a high ranking officer in the UK armed forces, he got invited to a vip tour of the big military base in Vegas and took my dad along. There’s an area there with what are basically sea-cans filled with screens and control panels and this is where a lot of the drone operators dropping bombs abroad work from. Kinda fucked

[Presto]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDgBGp07z1U




https://heavy.com/news/marina-ovsyannikova/
Marina Ovsyannikova is a Russian TV editor who interrupted a Channel One news broadcast with a sign protesting against the war in Ukraine, leading to her arrest. Ovsyannikova held up a sign reading, “No war,” and yelled, “stop the war,” and “no to war,” during the most-watched news broadcast in Russia, according to The Guardian.

Ovsyannikova’s sign also stated, “Don’t believe the propaganda. They’re lying to you here,” according to The Guardian. She also wrote in English, “Russians against the war.” According to The Guardian, the news anchor, Ekaterina Andreeva, read from a teleprompter in an effort to drown out Ovsyannikova, but her protest was on the air for several seconds before Channel One changed the broadcast to a pre-recorded segment. She was identified on Twitter by OVD-Info, a Russian human rights organization.

President Vladimir Putin and Russian officials passed a law with a potential 15-year prison sentence for going against the government’s official narrative on the country’s invasion of Ukraine. The law prohibits spreading what Putin has deemed “fake news” against Russia’s military. Ovsyannikova could face jail time or fines under that law and also could face punishment for encouraging civil unrest. Protesters across Russia have been arrested for speaking out against the war, according to OVD-Info.

Marina Ovsyannikova was arrested after the protest, TASS, a Russian state-run media organization, said, according to The Guardian. TASS reported Ovsyannikova was being held at the TV station by police and was being interviewed. The state-run news agency also reported she could face charges under the new “fake news” law.

According to an article in The Atlantic, Channel One (Perviy Kanal), is among the most popular and influential Russian state TV channels. Ovsyannikova has worked at the news station for several years, according to her social media profiles.

Cynthia Hooper, a Russia expert at the College of the Holy Cross in Massachusetts, told The Atlantic, “People seem nervous about going off script or even about what, exactly, their script is supposed to be. Whereas previously Channel One might have provided a decent, if unideal, job for a Russian journalist, “now those same positions involve really nothing more than very, very deep complicity in manufacturing stories designed to bolster the Putin regime, fuel popular hatred against purported outsider enemies, and convey support for criminal and destructive government policies.”

Before her protest, Ovsyannikova posted a video on social media explaining her decision to interrupt the news broadcast and encouraging others to speak out against the war in Ukraine. In the video, Ovsyannikova said her father is Ukrainian, while her mother is from Russia, according to translations posted on Twitter.

Ovsyannikova said in the video, “What is happening in Ukraine right now is a crime and Russia is the aggressor country. The responsibility for this aggression lies on the conscience of only one person. This person is Vladimir Putin. My father is Ukrainian, my mother is Russia. They have never been enemies. The necklace on my neck is like a symbol of the need for Russia to immediately stop this fratricidal war. Our brotherly people can still make peace.”

She added, “Unfortunately, for the past years I have worked at Channel One, involved in Kremlin propaganda. I am very ashamed of this. Ashamed because I allowed lies to be told from the TV screen. Ashamed because I allowed the Russian people to be turned into zombies.”

Ovsyannikova continued, “We stayed silent in 2014 when all of this was just starting. We did not go to protests when the Kremlin poisoned Navalny. We just silently observed this. anti-human regime. Right now the whole world has turned away from us. Ten generations of our descendants will not be able to wash the shame of this fratricidal war. We are Russian people. A thinking and smart people. Only we have the power to stop this madness. Go protest. Do not be afraid. They cannot put us all in jail.”

Ovsyannikova, 44, studied at Kuban State University and the Presidential Academy of National Economy and Public Administration, according to her Facebook page. She graduated from the Presidential Academy in 2005, she wrote on Facebook.

Ovsyannikova has worked for Russian state television for several years, according to her Instagram page. She previously appeared on-air with Kuban TV. Further information about her career, including her current role with Channel One, was not immediately available.

According to Pavel Chikov, a Russian lawyer and human rights activist, said on Twitter that his organization would be funding and handling Ovsyannikova’s legal defense. Chikov tweeted that lawyers were attempting to locate her after she was detained.

Ovsyannikova lives in Moscow and has two children, a son and daughter, according to her Facebook page. She was born Marina Tkachuk and Ovsyannikova is her married name, but it was not clear from her social media pages if she is still with her husband. According to

On Facebook and on Instagram, she wrote about how her love for Golden Retrievers. A photo shows she and her family raised several puppies and then gave them away for adoption in 2021.

U.S. Senator Bernie Sanders tweeted, “Marina Ovsyannikova, an editor at a TV channel in Russia, interrupted a live broadcast with a sign that read ‘NO WAR. Stop the war. Don’t believe the propaganda. They’re lying to you here.’ She has since been detained. This is an act of incredible courage.”

Ovsyannikova was a competitive swimmer while in university and in her youth, according to a 2002 interview with Yuga.ru.

She has continued to be an open-water swimmer during her TV career. She says on Facebook that she swam across the Volga and Bosphorus rivers. On Instagram she wrote, “Fitness and swimming on the open water������$♀️ Bosphorus, Volga, Swimstar and Oceanman ;)”

An adviser to Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy, Mykhailo Podolyak, reposted a video of Ovsyannikova’s protest on Twitter and wrote, “Russia is totally not free. They don’t have free media, political competition, protest rallies. Any protest is a direct road to jail. The more valuable is the act of Marina Ovsyannikova who told a multi-million audience the truth about the devastating war of Russia against.”

[snowball]

I think what he more means is how much war has changed fundamentally.

These affordable payload carrying drones change the entire landscape of how war is fought, and how it will be fought in the future.

It really evens the battlefield for countries with smaller GDPs, and the lack of ability to invest in their military in a traditional sense. Some predict this will cause a lot of issues in the future once we start seeing them utilized more broadly in smaller country to country conflicts and civil wars.

The future of defending Canada's north is probably gonna be with drones/robots. Time to start investing. The soldier of the future is gonna look less like GI Joe and more like Team Liquid.

The sad thing is that we'll become desensitized without real humans on the ground seeing the true cost of war and the impact on human lives. People killed and families destroyed like it's a video game.

[Tr1ll]

That’s exactly what I mean…. I’m surprised to see tanks/people on the ground…. I’m expecting just drones/artillery. Sure it’s changed, but not nearly as much as I had thought it would.

You can have all the drones, drop as much artillery and bombs as you want, but at the end of the day you still need the boots on the ground to hold the territory.

[pastarocket]

Elon is trolling Putin. LUL

Elon Musk has challenged Russian President Vladimir Putin to single combat on Twitter. The prize: Ukraine.

The Tesla and SpaceX owner issued the challenge via tweet early Monday morning, in what was pretty clearly an effort to troll the Russian president.

It's just the latest in a mix of serious and absurd efforts that Musk has been making to help Ukraine, after Russia invaded the country in late February.

"I hereby challenge Vladimir Putin to single combat. Stakes are Ukraine," Musk tweeted, with Putin's name spelled out in Russian.

He later tweeted directly at the official Kremlin Twitter account asking: "Do you agree to this fight?"

He then told someone else on Twitter: "I am absolutely serious


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[SkinnyPupp]

What a dork

[SkinnyPupp]

You can have all the drones, drop as much artillery and bombs as you want, but at the end of the day you still need the boots on the ground to hold the territory.
Yup and Russia is learning you can send in all the tanks in the world, but if there's no infantry to support them, they are pretty much sitting ducks.

[Gumby]

Putin seems like someone to accept the single combat challenge, cheat, lose, and still claim that he won. Come to think of it, sounds like another former world leader :troll:

[MarkyMark]

Does Elon crave attention that bad? Go use some of that money and get a life.

[Traum]

The first thing that I thought of is -- if Putin becomes really annoyed with Elon Musk, he is just gonna send in some secret agent and discretely feed Musk some sort of radioactive poison to get rid of him.

And he sort of has reason to -- all that Starlink service that he has sent over to Ukraine -- it's ruining his propaganda game and allowing Ukrainians to post up all those war videos.

[Manic!]

russian yachts scrambling.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGYxqpTBzb8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1KUJwTBm34

[SkinnyPupp]

They should turn them all into housing for Ukrainian refugees

The idea is to sell them for funding for them, but I don't know if there's enough disgusting rich people to buy them all

[WD-40]

The future of defending Canada's north is probably gonna be with drones/robots. Time to start investing. The soldier of the future is gonna look less like GI Joe and more like Team Liquid.

The sad thing is that we'll become desensitized without real humans on the ground seeing the true cost of war and the impact on human lives. People killed and families destroyed like it's a video game.

Canada needs to invest in signal scrambling devices, so drones and whathaveyou will no longer respond to commands sent to them.

Better yet, intercept the command signals and have drones fly back to where they came from and destroy the bases.

Detonate or neutralize nuclear warheads within seconds of being launched.

[underscore]

They should turn them all into housing for Ukrainian refugees

The idea is to sell them for funding for them, but I don't know if there's enough disgusting rich people to buy them all

There might be, but the kind of rich knobs who can afford to buy and maintain those things (supposedly they cost ~10% of their build price per year in maintenance) don't seem like the kind of people who would buy used.

[Manic!]

They should turn them all into housing for Ukrainian refugees

The idea is to sell them for funding for them, but I don't know if there's enough disgusting rich people to buy them all

The running costs of those yatchs is crazy. You are looking at millions a year. Some 40 to 50 mill a year. I wonder who is paying for that right now. You also have a bunch that are in mid construction. They shipyards have to stop working on them if they are being built for a Russian but can't move them to start another project because they are so large there is no place to store them.

[danned]

https://www.reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/comments/tdlz9b/times_when_putin_tried_to_shake_someones_hand/

that's how the war starts

[SkinnyPupp]

https://www.reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/comments/tdlz9b/times_when_putin_tried_to_shake_someones_hand/

that's how the war starts
OMG what a loser! Even Kim Fucken Jong Un doesn't want to shake his hand! EleGiggle

[WD-40]

Joker's Joy Buzzer.

[blkgsr]

drones and missiles cost a lot of money

old ass tanks and young bodies from mother russia, not so much

[pastarocket]

Zelensky pleads with MPs during a virtual meeting with Parliament for a NATO no fly zone.

I do not think that a NATO enforced no fly zone is gonna "fly".

https://vancouver.citynews.ca/2022/03/15/ukraine-president-zelenskyy-parliament-speech/


Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy made history on Tuesday addressing the Canadian Parliament and pleading for continued support amid the Russian invasion of Ukraine.

In his virtual speech in the House of Commons, Zelenskyy asked Canadians to imagine if their country was under a similar attack.


“Can you imagine the famous CN Tower in Toronto if it was hit by Russian bombs?” asked Zelenskyy during his address. “Every night is a horrible night.”


The House of Commons was full for the first time in two years with most MPs there in person and dozens of invited guests in the public galleries.

The Ukrainian president acknowledged and thanked Canada for their assistance and aid in recent weeks. Zelenskyy continued to make his pitch to NATO allies to enforce a no-fly zone, asking Canadians to imagine if they were facing Russian missile attacks.

“We are not asking for much. We’re asking for justice, for real support,” he said.

Canada, along with other allies have denied the request for a no fly zone out of fears it will lead to an escalation of war in Europe.

“Volodymyr, in the years I’ve known you, I’ve always thought of you as a champion of democracy, and now democracies around the world are lucky to have you as our champion,” said Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, in a short introduction before the president spoke.

“Your courage and the courage of your people inspires us all.”

Trudeau also announced sanctions against 15 more Russian officials during his introductory speech for the Ukrainian President.

“Ukrainians are already paying incalculable human costs. This illegal and unnecessary war is a grave mistake. Putin must stop it now,” Trudeau said.

During his address, Zelenskky said the sanctions imposed so far have not been enough and to deter Russia and encouraged more measures to ensure it cannot continue to support its war effort.

Trudeau announced that Canada will send another $50 million of specialized equipment to help Ukraine while visiting Europe last week. He also imposed new sanctions on Russian oligarchs, government officials and supporters of the country’s leadership.

Canada has also committed $145 million in humanitarian assistance to Ukraine in 2022 and created new immigration measures to help people fleeing the war.

Shortly after Zelenskyy’s address, it was confirmed Trudeau, Foreign Affairs Minister Melanie Joly, and Defence Minister Anita Anand were placed on a list of Canadians banned from Russia. Their names were included in a list of banned foreigners on the Russian embassy’s website.

[mikemhg]

The future of defending Canada's north is probably gonna be with drones/robots. Time to start investing. The soldier of the future is gonna look less like GI Joe and more like Team Liquid.

The sad thing is that we'll become desensitized without real humans on the ground seeing the true cost of war and the impact on human lives. People killed and families destroyed like it's a video game.

That's the primary thing people in the foreign policy community are worried about.

If you're Ethiopia and you're at war with Eritrea -- traditionally you would need to send physical troops and equipment to attack your enemy. If now you can simply fly a cheap drone and bomb a building or installation without any risk to your troops, you'll do it.

This can and will lead to more proxy wars between countries utilizing drones against one another, also putting more civilian lives in danger as a result (easy to attack towns and cities across borders without sending troops).

We're already seeing this happen in Africa in countries that don't carry a real air-force of any kind, but are able to acquire these drones to utilize on civilians and their enemies.

It's scary stuff.

[mikemhg]

Zelensky pleads with MPs during a virtual meeting with Parliament for a NATO no fly zone.

I do not think that a NATO enforced no fly zone is gonna "fly".

https://vancouver.citynews.ca/2022/03/15/ukraine-president-zelenskyy-parliament-speech/


Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy made history on Tuesday addressing the Canadian Parliament and pleading for continued support amid the Russian invasion of Ukraine.

In his virtual speech in the House of Commons, Zelenskyy asked Canadians to imagine if their country was under a similar attack.


“Can you imagine the famous CN Tower in Toronto if it was hit by Russian bombs?” asked Zelenskyy during his address. “Every night is a horrible night.”


The House of Commons was full for the first time in two years with most MPs there in person and dozens of invited guests in the public galleries.

The Ukrainian president acknowledged and thanked Canada for their assistance and aid in recent weeks. Zelenskyy continued to make his pitch to NATO allies to enforce a no-fly zone, asking Canadians to imagine if they were facing Russian missile attacks.

“We are not asking for much. We’re asking for justice, for real support,” he said.

Canada, along with other allies have denied the request for a no fly zone out of fears it will lead to an escalation of war in Europe.

“Volodymyr, in the years I’ve known you, I’ve always thought of you as a champion of democracy, and now democracies around the world are lucky to have you as our champion,” said Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, in a short introduction before the president spoke.

“Your courage and the courage of your people inspires us all.”

Trudeau also announced sanctions against 15 more Russian officials during his introductory speech for the Ukrainian President.

“Ukrainians are already paying incalculable human costs. This illegal and unnecessary war is a grave mistake. Putin must stop it now,” Trudeau said.

During his address, Zelenskky said the sanctions imposed so far have not been enough and to deter Russia and encouraged more measures to ensure it cannot continue to support its war effort.

Trudeau announced that Canada will send another $50 million of specialized equipment to help Ukraine while visiting Europe last week. He also imposed new sanctions on Russian oligarchs, government officials and supporters of the country’s leadership.

Canada has also committed $145 million in humanitarian assistance to Ukraine in 2022 and created new immigration measures to help people fleeing the war.

Shortly after Zelenskyy’s address, it was confirmed Trudeau, Foreign Affairs Minister Melanie Joly, and Defence Minister Anita Anand were placed on a list of Canadians banned from Russia. Their names were included in a list of banned foreigners on the Russian embassy’s website.

We seem to have unlimited funds to send over there.

Every time I see a new headline of billions in aid money and weaponry being sent to Ukraine by NATO countries makes me wonder where it's all truly going.

[JDMDreams]

Now I really haven't been following this side of things. But can someone explain how we can afford to randomly throw hundreds of millions of dollars at a random country halfway across the world just cuz they have a war? Is it some g7 or NATO thing.

Why are we dipping our feet into this if we don't want to escalate this into ww3. Last week I heard we're sending rocker launchers and grenades.

Don't we have trucker protests and our own inflation COVID high gas prices to deal with? 200m handed out to Canadians would sure help out a lot :fulloffuck:

[CivicBlues]

Come on are you new to living in the West?

There's no money to fix health care, homelessness, housing, crime, domestic shit but there's always, always money for foreign wars.

[320icar]

@jdmdreams. Let’s say we have spent 145m on Ukraine. We have 30m people over 18 in Canada. If everyone drove, that means they could give us each $5 towards gas. Sure sounds like it would help a lot.

Insert here I know that’s not how it works. Plus we’re giving equipment, you know, the stuff Canada isn’t using in all of its active wars. Munitions and supplies do have best before dates. Why not donate it

[blkgsr]

ya then we can just spend the military budget on new shit

i wonder if the government can "write off" military donations lol

[Tapioca]

There are over 1 million Canadians who have Ukrainian heritage. That's not an insignificant political constituency.

Also, geopolitics.

[teggy604]

ya then we can just spend the military budget on new shit

i wonder if the government can "write off" military donations lol

I dont know. Our military budget is pretty laughable. They still haven't figure out how to replace our fighter jets yet. Do you think Canada would increase our defense budget with JT? lol.

[68style]

Pretty sure Canada’s defence plan has always consisted of depending on the USA to fight for us lol

[Hondaracer]

@jdmdreams. Let’s say we have spent 145m on Ukraine. We have 30m people over 18 in Canada. If everyone drove, that means they could give us each $5 towards gas. Sure sounds like it would help a lot.

Insert here I know that’s not how it works. Plus we’re giving equipment, you know, the stuff Canada isn’t using in all of its active wars. Munitions and supplies do have best before dates. Why not donate it

Those are called assets.

[Great68]

Pretty sure Canada’s defence plan has always consisted of depending on the USA to fight for us lol

Unless Canada picked the fight with another country, I can't imagine the USA tolerating any hostile country setting foot in any part of North America. The question is, if Americans came up here to fight, would they leave or would we just become another state?

[CivicBlues]

ya then we can just spend the military budget on new shit

i wonder if the government can "write off" military donations lol

The term you're looking for is Military Industrial Complex

Big in the US, and to a lesser extent, still relevant for Canada.

[Manic!]

Now what percentage of the money sent to Ukraine is being spent on products produced by Canadian companies?

Rather fight putin in Ukraine than have to fight him here.

[320icar]

Pretty sure the last time Canada actively picked a fight, we burned down the White House. I don’t have a worry of us doing something similar any time soon

[teggy604]

Pretty sure Canada’s defence plan has always consisted of depending on the USA to fight for us lol

Its true. lol.
There are really really smart Canadians here, but they all flock to the US because money and that's where all the companies are. Wouldn't it be awesome if we can retain all that brains and develop some crazy stuff here? Where would Canada be?

[EvoFire]

Its true. lol.
There are really really smart Canadians here, but they all flock to the US because money and that's where all the companies are. Wouldn't it be awesome if we can retain all that brains and develop some crazy stuff here? Where would Canada be?

We've shit canned that with the Avro Arrow and it was damage that Canada won't recover from.

Was at the aviation museum in Victoria a few days ago and they had a section on the Arrow. Every time I see a bit on the Arrow it makes me mad.

[SkinnyPupp]

I think a lot of the Avro Arrow stuff is Canadian propaganda

[T4RAWR]

....
Insert here I know that’s not how it works. Plus we’re giving equipment, you know, the stuff Canada isn’t using in all of its active wars. Munitions and supplies do have best before dates. Why not donate it...

small arms munitions dont expire, especially when stored correctly.

it's important to keep a stock pile to have at the ready in the event that war does start.

that being said you're absolutely right, we probably wont be getting into an active war in the foreseeable future.

[JDMDreams]

^^ all we need is some truckers blocking the border and we're safe, they'll do it for free too :troll::troll::joy:

[underscore]

The total 2021 budget is over $500B. $145M sounds like a lot but it's less than 0.03% of the budget.

[Manic!]

Biden is thinking about sending these to Ukraine.

https://www.avinc.com/tms/switchblade

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/ukraine-asks-biden-admin-armed-drones-jamming-gear-surface-air-missile-rcna20197

It's a drone with a camera that fits in a backpack and launches out if a tube. It has a 10 km range 15 min flight time top speed of 100mph and is a freaking missle. They claim it's undetectable. They have a bigger version that can go 50 km. The smaller version costs as little as $6000.

These things are nuts.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tB61UO_2kAo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBNayBINEBc

[320icar]

I’d die so fast in a combat situation.

[CharlesInCharge]

Im surprised my thread ban is lifted, of course we cant have a civilized discussion here about facts but here an interesting video. watch it quick incase it gets deleted by our 'truth' gate keeper mods.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1503795458317168643
source https://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message5081983/pg1?regp=bm9fMTY0NzQyMDE0NQ==

[SkinnyPupp]

I'm not sure who unbanned you either, but if you keep posting nazi propaganda, you're gone. You have your own thread for that shit, and people are free to chat with you about it there.

Feel free to post some alt right militia LARPer (https://www.dispatch.com/story/news/2022/03/06/ohio-veteran-henry-hoeft-heading-ukraine-fight-russia-legion/9376048002/) who heard that Ukraine has neo nazis he can fight along with, but then got bombed and immediately tried to desert his post to escape the country with all his gear, with otherwise no verification of any claims. Fucker went from taking his gun to BLM rallies to taking it to Ukraine, I guess in hopes for some free real life military training? People like him are the dirt worst, trying to take advantage of a catastrophic situation. Instead, he learned that when you go into an active war zone with serious supply chain issues, it's not going to be Call of Duty.

Or more likely, he didn't go at all, and is trying to stir up shit.

[donk.]

Im surprised my thread ban is lifted, of course we cant have a civilized discussion here about facts but here an interesting video. watch it quick incase it gets deleted by our 'truth' gate keeper mods.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1503795458317168643
source https://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message5081983/pg1?regp=bm9fMTY0NzQyMDE0NQ==

Noone here has a membership to hoax cult sites except you and Skidz

[El Bastardo]

Meal Team Six there soiled his cargo shorts as soon as he realized this isn't Call of Duty (heheh... doody) and that there is some real danger. He sees what the Ukrainian people have to deal with and, unlike his time in the U.S. Army, the support and technology just isn't there for him to dominate like he had the COD: Eastern Europe Prestige Season Pass.

He thought he'd go over to Ukraine, the sanctions and threat of the U.S. military would lead to the Russian forces pulling back, and he'd have a great story to tell about chasing Russians back to Moscow to all the meth-head single moms back in Ohio. Shit got real and he peaced out, then told others to peace out too. Now the video demonstrating his cowardice is going to be used as Russian propaganda. That chump will be back home next week sucking ranch dressing off of hot wings while the situation continues to erode. Putin will place videos like this along side Tucker Carlson's latest tantrum on state television to "show how Ukraine is lying to its people and the world".

Like SkinnyPupp said... this guy was a LARPer and has now become a useful idiot in a propaganda campaign.

[blkgsr]

Biden is thinking about sending these to Ukraine.

https://www.avinc.com/tms/switchblade

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/ukraine-asks-biden-admin-armed-drones-jamming-gear-surface-air-missile-rcna20197

It's a drone with a camera that fits in a backpack and launches out if a tube. It has a 10 km range 15 min flight time top speed of 100mph and is a freaking missle. They claim it's undetectable. They have a bigger version that can go 50 km. The smaller version costs as little as $6000.

These things are nuts.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tB61UO_2kAo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBNayBINEBc


doesn't look like it did much to a 1990's japanese pick up truck, what the hell is it going to do to an armored vehicle?

the 2nd video is nothing but a video game.

[EvoFire]

I think a lot of the Avro Arrow stuff is Canadian propaganda

I'm curious now, propaganda that it was too good to be true just to drum up national pride? The reality was it's nowhere near as good as it sounds?

[CharlesInCharge]

I'm not sure who unbanned you either, but if you keep posting nazi propaganda, you're gone. You have your own thread for that shit, and people are free to chat with you about it there. . Anyone can try and refute my thread that was moved to the FightClub section.

Truth is no one here can debate me on my position because I come with facts and common sense. In 2014 I had figured out all the players in the Ukraine coupe... after all this time everyone in this thread is still clueless.


Noone here has a membership to hoax cult sites except you and Skidz As a first time visitor you have to check the two boxes and agree to enter or something like that.
As a Ukrainian, does it matter which powers were behind the famine of millions of your people only a few generations back? Proxies like Jacob Schiff then (use yandex.com search engine) are connected to proxies of today like George Soros behind Ukraine's plight.

[SkinnyPupp]

Mods, please don't unban him again. He tries to ruin every thread he posts to. He is either a TROLL or actually insane, either way it's not good for the forum. If you want to have a go at his nonsense, the fight club is there. It's literally the same thing as the main forum, just without ads.

[68style]

I think the wildest thing about him is that he credits jasonturbo in his signature block as being one of the societal sheep he supposedly owned :D

Anyone who knows/knew that guy would die laughing at that description lol

ANYWAY, back to Ukraine getting blown up.

[pastarocket]

Biden is right about this war. "It could be a long and difficult battle"

https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/15/politics/biden-military-assistance-ukraine/index.html

The new details about the US' military assistance to Ukraine comes hours after Ukraine's President, Volodymyr Zelensky, addressed US members of Congress, renewing his calls for more assistance as his homeland continues to battle Russian military's invasion

Biden, in his remarks on Wednesday, attempted to level with Americans about the long road ahead in the war.

"I want to be honest with you," the President said. "This could be a long and difficult battle. But the American people will be steadfast in our support of the people of Ukraine in the face of Putin's immoral, unethical attacks on civilian population."

According to the White House, the $800 million in security assistance will provide Ukraine with: 800 Stinger anti-aircraft systems, 100 drones, "over 20 million rounds of small arms ammunition and grenade launcher and mortar rounds," 25,000 sets of body armor, 25,000 helmets, 100 grenade launchers, 5,000 rifles, 1,000 pistols, 400 machine guns, 400 shotguns, as well as "2,000 Javelin, 1,000 light anti-armor weapons, and 6,000 AT-4 anti-armor systems."

[StylinRed]

Brands been hitting it out of the park lately


https://youtu.be/NiRXysVrJ-s

[68style]

I haven't watched this video, I've been watching a few of them... but he's starting to get a bit too loony for me.

He tries to keep an air of balance about him most of the times, I admire his dedication to trying to stay unbiased, but he's been getting pretty tinfoil hat lately.... I'll check this one out though and see what's up.

Watched it, the problem I always have with RB's stuff is that all of his talking points revolve around the fact there's a few people (Whom? We don't know) that are controlling everything in the world... which is a very CiC style belief... which leaves you saying "Okay, well, interesting but what do I do with that? My ability to communicate is being eroded... but what can I do about that?" Specifically in this video, he had some very glossy lines about the trucker convoy in Canada... I understand how the swastika flags could be viewed 2 ways but he seemed to err on the side of it being they are calling Trudeau a fascist, not being fascist themselves... but numerous other examples came up on video and otherwise showing the belief system of the people holding those flags very much matched what the flag represents, whether it was targeted AT someone or representative of their own feelings at that point is beside the fact.

You shouldn't need to hold up a swastika to tell Trudeau that you think his ideas are restrictive. End of story.

[SkinnyPupp]

He's turning into Stalin before our eyes... Watch this whole thing

https://twitter.com/ianbremmer/status/1504197845204840454

Here's an article if you don't want to watch this crazy mf struggle through his weird rant

Putin says Russia must undergo a 'self-cleansing of society' to purge 'bastards and traitors' as thousands flee the country (https://www.businessinsider.com/putin-says-russia-must-undergo-self-cleansing-society-2022-3)

[pastarocket]

Putin is a fucking war criminal!

-watched Zelensky’s speech to the US Congress. Courageous leadership!

-pretty heart wrenching to see the video that Zelensky showed to the US politicians.

Warning. Video from Zelensky during his speech is graphic:

https://youtu.be/y4NRL0GKrmQ



Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[StylinRed]

I haven't watched this video, I've been watching a few of them... but he's starting to get a bit too loony for me.

He tries to keep an air of balance about him most of the times, I admire his dedication to trying to stay unbiased, but he's been getting pretty tinfoil hat lately.... I'll check this one out though and see what's up.

Watched it, the problem I always have with RB's stuff is that all of his talking points revolve around the fact there's a few people (Whom? We don't know) that are controlling everything in the world... which is a very CiC style belief... which leaves you saying "Okay, well, interesting but what do I do with that? My ability to communicate is being eroded... but what can I do about that?" Specifically in this video, he had some very glossy lines about the trucker convoy in Canada... I understand how the swastika flags could be viewed 2 ways but he seemed to err on the side of it being they are calling Trudeau a fascist, not being fascist themselves... but numerous other examples came up on video and otherwise showing the belief system of the people holding those flags very much matched what the flag represents, whether it was targeted AT someone or representative of their own feelings at that point is beside the fact.

You shouldn't need to hold up a swastika to tell Trudeau that you think his ideas are restrictive. End of story.

Ah yea the tinge of craziness/tinfoil hat is there n more pronounced definitely, he's holding it back though. But overall the subjects n discussions have been great

I imagine if he drops back into any of his addictions he's going to be balls to the walls nuts, maybe he'll be driven to that just for the sake of coming out with new content.

He seems to be coming out with a video everyday, and yt creators do get exhausted with keeping up with new content

[El Bastardo]

Watched it, the problem I always have with RB's stuff is that all of his talking points revolve around the fact there's a few people (Whom? We don't know) that are controlling everything in the world... which is a very CiC style belief... which leaves you saying "Okay, well, interesting but what do I do with that? My ability to communicate is being eroded... but what can I do about that?"

Ah yea the tinge of craziness/tinfoil hat is there n more pronounced definitely, he's holding it back though. But overall the subjects n discussions have been great

He seems to be coming out with a video everyday, and yt creators do get exhausted with keeping up with new content



Thats the problem with those kinds of videos. They make you create doubt in the system but it feels a little bit powerful because it gives you a perspective outside of the other "sheep". Its addicting because you watch more and more videos, and you feel its going to add up until one day it'll just "click".

But it doesn't. It never does. The only thing that remains is doubt. You'll let that doubt erode your faith and belief system. You'll start to put your own answers into things and seek out others with just enough doubt. Pretty soon it'll be you and the others against "them".

Russell Brand is a drug addict in recovery. He has underlying personality issues that drove his addiction and without the drugs to suppress that part of his personality, he spins out of control like we've seen him do lately. An aggressive video schedule isn't the sign of a motivated personality, its a biproduct of someone experiencing a bit of focused mania. Its exhausting to watch because theres no conclusion and payoff because your normie brain needs to make connections but his doesn't.


Unrelated to anything y'all have said but moreso to the comment pastarocket made about Zelenskyy making a video.

Did anyone see the Zelenskyy surrender deepfake video? lol
Its sad that Putin thought it would convince anyone.

[68style]

He's been in this constant state for like 10 years.

I remember buying his Booky Wook and the one after and reading them on some 15 hr flights I was on... and I love some of his ideas and ideals but the pace of the books is absolutely frantic, he has a lot of self efficacy for sure and his way with words is second to none, he's quite a genius I think and articulates with the best of them... but he just can't quite bring his ideas across the finish line... in the end you're left with "Right then, let's not vote, the political system is broken, it needs to be replaced by something that puts people first... but I have no idea how to make that happen. Good luck everyone!"

Exhausting is a good word for it... I can't imagine spending time around that guy in real life for more than an hour I would just be so tired of him always just being ON all the time haha...

[westopher]

It seems like people are idolizing those that point out all of the problems in the world without providing a solution as some sort of high mark of intelligence when it’s just cynicism that we emotionally connect to when it’s articulated well. It’s why people think Rogan or Peterson or Shapiro are smart guys, when in actuality they have never found an answer for a single question they’ve asked, just another question until people forget what the question was in the first place. Just a bunch of big vocabulary conmen.

[$_$]

It seems like people are idolizing those that point out all of the problems in the world without providing a solution as some sort of high mark of intelligence when it’s just cynicism that we emotionally connect to when it’s articulated well. It’s why people think Rogan or Peterson or Shapiro are smart guys, when in actuality they have never found an answer for a single question they’ve asked, just another question until people forget what the question was in the first place. Just a bunch of big vocabulary conmen.

there is a new meme for this:

https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/cultures/wordcel-shape-rotator-mathcel

[SkinnyPupp]

there is a new meme for this:

https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/cultures/wordcel-shape-rotator-mathcel
Reading that gave me brain cancer

It's crazy that people live their whole lives around that meme shit.

[SkinnyPupp]

https://twitter.com/EuromaidanPress/status/1504419779947466764

https://twitter.com/Schwarzenegger/status/1504426844199669762

[whitev70r]

Impressed by Schwarzenegger, he is speaking from the heart ... no rant tone, just straight up, from one human being to another. He did this when the idiots broke into/invaded the Capital. I hope the message gets out. Here is someone using his fame and political sway in a constructive way.

Instead of Elon vs. Putin in a ring, can we put Arnold and Putin in the octagon ...:lol. I know it's some sort of war crime against Geneva convention to try to take out the president or leader of a country but man, Putin is the exception.

[68style]

Despite all the bravado and shirtless pictures and bear wrestling propaganda... Putin is what 5'7"?

[StylinRed]

He's been in this constant state for like 10 years.

I remember buying his Booky Wook and the one after and reading them on some 15 hr flights I was on... and I love some of his ideas and ideals but the pace of the books is absolutely frantic, he has a lot of self efficacy for sure and his way with words is second to none, he's quite a genius I think and articulates with the best of them... but he just can't quite bring his ideas across the finish line... in the end you're left with "Right then, let's not vote, the political system is broken, it needs to be replaced by something that puts people first... but I have no idea how to make that happen. Good luck everyone!"

Exhausting is a good word for it... I can't imagine spending time around that guy in real life for more than an hour I would just be so tired of him always just being ON all the time haha...


I think the point is to get people talking about and brainstorming on these subjects, I think he makes a point of that in all his videos by saying he doesn't have the answers and he wants to know what you think

The point isn't to look to him for answers but to get people talking and thinking about subjects that they never do, and which the media never does

ppl look to the news for answers, but the news just provides a narrative that their bosses n their bosses want them to promote (fox vs cnn if u will), so the news isn't providing full service, just a partial service, and what I think Brand is trying to do is really just to drive ppl to start doing the rest of the work that the media doesn't provide, or at least get you to demand a better product

The only problems are is people are lazy, and they're watching the news when they're chilling out at home, they don't really want to get their thinking caps on, they just want to feel like they did, hence they're watching the news, instead of researching topics.

So they just soak up what they see on fox or cnn, and if you say hey wait u should be looking at cnn(if ur a fox guy), npr, substack, or getting a taste of foreign news outlets for their perspective, (let alone reading reports or watching lectures) you get pushback, and the lazier the person the more pushback you get

Brand is like that fitness coach trying to kick you into being more active, and he may seem extreme to some, probably bcuz he feels like he has to be to get ppl going, or maybe cuz he's a lil crazy too, but like that fitness coach, they aren't the answer, they're just trying to get you moving

[mikemhg]

It seems like people are idolizing those that point out all of the problems in the world without providing a solution as some sort of high mark of intelligence when it’s just cynicism that we emotionally connect to when it’s articulated well. It’s why people think Rogan or Peterson or Shapiro are smart guys, when in actuality they have never found an answer for a single question they’ve asked, just another question until people forget what the question was in the first place. Just a bunch of big vocabulary conmen.

I was about to reference the EXACT same people before reading your post. Thank you :lol

[mikemhg]

Serious question, we all know the military industrial complex loves what's going on right now (Germany recently announcing the purchase of 35 F-35s, etc.)

35 of course, because Germans :lol

I'm curious though, with all these countries pledging weapons and funding, who will be left to even utilize these weapons being sent? I just read an article recently that over half the population of Kyiv has fled the city, Europe seeing the largest migration of people in decades.

Where will these weapons end eventually, and who exactly will be left to use them against the Russians as more continue to flee?

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canadian-weapons-ukraine-misuse-1.6386109

Starting to see more articles starting to speak about this.

[westopher]

I believe it’s only women, children and the elderly that can flee. Basically any able bodied male has stayed to fight.

[BlackV62K2]

It seems like people are idolizing those that point out all of the problems in the world without providing a solution as some sort of high mark of intelligence when it’s just cynicism that we emotionally connect to when it’s articulated well. It’s why people think Rogan or Peterson or Shapiro are smart guys, when in actuality they have never found an answer for a single question they’ve asked, just another question until people forget what the question was in the first place. Just a bunch of big vocabulary conmen.

Basically what I'm getting from reading Jordon Peterson's books. There are good points in there but it can totally be summarized into a couple pages at most per chapter. The rest is fluff and tangents that make you forgot the point of that chapter. I stopped listening to JRE since he went off the deep end.

[pastarocket]

I believe it’s only women, children and the elderly that can flee. Basically any able bodied male has stayed to fight.

Correct.

Zelensky made this announcement in late February:

KYIV, Feb 23 (Reuters) - Ukraine on Wednesday has started conscripting reservists aged 18-60 following a decree by President Volodymyr Zelenskiy, the armed forces said in a statement.

The maximum service period is one year.

Zelenskiy on Tuesday said he was introducing the conscription of reservists but ruled out a general mobilisation after Russia announced it was moving troops into eastern Ukraine.

[richardmozis]

I believe it’s only women, children and the elderly that can flee. Basically any able bodied male has stayed to fight.

I find it funny that people are surprised/outraged that there is a greater welcome for the refugees from Ukraine compared to the European refugee crisis of 2015.

It's mostly women and children refugees coming from Ukraine according to the United Nations. For comparison, Pew Research reported that 75%+ of asylum seekers in Europe in 2015 were men.

I don't doubt there is a racial or cultural component when comparing these waves of refugees but I feel that some of the 'commentators' on the conflict are glossing over this glaring fact.

I thought women and children are given priority to get to safety in times of war? Or are more people now men's rights activists?