[EvoFire]

Your use case is different, and you'd be much better served by a Cayman.

[bcrdukes]

Let me blow the motor up first.

[headhunt3r]

bcedhk:

I'm mid-life, I have kids and I totally understand the whole need to buy a convertible. Don't buy a motorcycle - your kids don't need to see their father end up in a body bag or suffer from a life-changing injury. Buy a 4-seater convertible so you can take your kids for rides.

As some here know, I bought an E46 convertible a few years ago during COVID. It was a neglected example and it's automatic. But, I can at least work on it during my spare time and the parts network is very strong with numerous OEMs who still make parts, unlike Porsche. BMW still makes parts for the car and even their parts are not unreasonable. Don't overlook peak-era BMWs - E46, Z3/Z4, and even a 1-series convertible with the N52.

Another tip - get in the habit of putting on SPF50 (if it's not already part of your skincare regimen) to keep the freckles and sunspots at bay. You'll need it once you get used to driving with the top down.

As fun as the E88 is with the N52, I miss driving a Miata. At some point, I'll probably make the hop back to Miata life and leave the bimmer behind. Maybe once the kiddo is old enough to stay home by himself. Haven't thought through what the criteria is yet.

[68style]

Let me blow the motor up first.

Semantics matter

[EvoFire]

Let me blow the motor up first.

Wouldn't it be worth more running than not?

As fun as the E88 is with the N52, I miss driving a Miata. At some point, I'll probably make the hop back to Miata life and leave the bimmer behind. Maybe once the kiddo is old enough to stay home by himself. Haven't thought through what the criteria is yet.

It highly depends on the kid. If your kid is going to stick with you and go everywhere you go like mine is trending, you'll be shut out of the Miata life.

It's extremely tempting for me to go buy a ND, but damn if it's hard with two kids and it'll just be a 5 figure lawn ornament if I did.

[donk.]

Let me blow the motor up first.


Did someone call me?

[yray]

they should give this as a loaner to badhobz next time he goes in for warranty

https://www.richmondvw.ca/used/2015-Mitsubishi-Mirage-id12402254.html

are they that desperate to sell this :lol

[Badhobz]

But it says it has mechanical issues. Still surprised it has 237,000kms on it. Whoever owned it, totally got their moneys worth.

[Manic!]

North Vancouver man gets mom's Lamborghini impounded near Princeton for excessive speed

https://www.castanet.net/news/Penticton/568710/North-Vancouver-man-gets-mom-s-Lamborghini-impounded-near-Princeton-for-excessive-speed


anyone got pics of the mom?

[Traum]

Ugh... I have definitely "hustled" on Hwy 3 on my way to Area 27 as well, so I kind of feel bad for the guy. But generally speaking, speeding anywhere close to towns is almost always a bad idea...

[GLOW]

North Vancouver man gets mom's Lamborghini impounded near Princeton for excessive speed

https://www.castanet.net/news/Penticton/568710/North-Vancouver-man-gets-mom-s-Lamborghini-impounded-near-Princeton-for-excessive-speed


anyone got pics of the mom?

need to also confirm if gym membership in richmond as well Kappa

[mikemhg]

Ugh... I have definitely "hustled" on Hwy 3 on my way to Area 27 as well, so I kind of feel bad for the guy. But generally speaking, speeding anywhere close to towns is almost always a bad idea...

3 places I've been ticketed where the RCMP are seen often and you should never speed:

-Princeton (always lurking)
-Merritt (always lurking)
-Keremeos (to a lesser degree, but still got me one time)

[EvoFire]

I think typically around town is going to be high risk. Highway 1 going through Kamloops and hwy97 going through West Kelowna are known to be heavy ticket spots

[Klondike]

https://www.roadandtrack.com/news/a65899889/the-r35-nissan-gt-r-is-finally-dead-after-18-years/

Final R35 GT-R rolled off the production line: T-Spec in Midnight Purple

https://i.imgur.com/wLVRYXf.png

[spoon.ek9]

Dunno where else to post this, so I guess it fits this thread's criteria.

I was recently in Iceland which meant we had to rent some cars to drive around in. Now, me being an oldschool car guy who is still driving a '90 civic Si and a '98 civic, I have very little exposure to the newest cars and all the recent technology (read: past 10-15 years worth of "normal" features in cars these days). I usually laugh to myself when I open up my sunroof in the EF and say "oooh technology!" :lol

The two cars I was given to drive were a Toyota RAV4 Hybrid and a Mitsubishi Outlander (dunno what years but pretty new-ish). Holy FUCK was this an annoying ass experience, NO exaggeration. The god damn car dings you when you're TWO WHOLE FUCKING KM/HR over the speed limit?! fuck off! And then this collision prevention bullshit when you're (barely) close to another vehicle, hitting the brakes for you because oh dear me, you're a wee bit too close teehee. The Outlander was even MORE annoying. Yawn? Fatigue warning "time for a break?" how about fuck you? Look at the radio, steering wheel vibrates "DiStRacTeD dRiviNg!!1 oMg!!!". Even through construction the damn collision prevention kicks in because it thinks you're crossing the line into other traffic/the shoulder. Please dear whatever the fuck god everyone prays to, tell me these features can be DISABLED....??? Otherwise I'll never buy a new car ever again unless this shit is not part of the car.

I did all the driving while we were there and holy fucking shit was I annoyed. I fucking hate that new cars these days automatically assume you're a retarded driver who needs all of these support systems in order to drive safely. Back up cameras make people idiots at parking but all of this shit I just described.... no wonder there's so many idiots in new cars. Fuck.

[Traum]

I don't have any experience in either of the cars you mentioned, but I would guess that they might be European-specific features?

If stuff like this were to be found on US cars, I'm sure our southern neighbours would be flipping out big time, and Trump might even slap a tariff on all cars having these features.

(Oh wait... Trump is already slapping tariffs on cars made outside of the US... :badpokerface: )

[AstulzerRZD]

Dunno where else to post this, so I guess it fits this thread's criteria.

The two cars I was given to drive were a Toyota RAV4 Hybrid and a Mitsubishi Outlander (dunno what years but pretty new-ish). Holy FUCK was this an annoying ass experience, NO exaggeration. The god damn car dings you when you're TWO WHOLE FUCKING KM/HR over the speed limit?! fuck off! And then this collision prevention bullshit when you're (barely) close to another vehicle, hitting the brakes for you because oh dear me, you're a wee bit too close teehee.

wtf did they set all of the assist to max annoyance?

i rip it in that gen RAV4 through NYC/Toronto, have never set that thing off even with a very aggressive following distance/running yellows.

the dings for the speed thing have to get turned off but NZ/Aus are SUPER strict with speeding so might be a god thing

[Gumby]

If you can’t adjust the sensitivity of those driving aid tools and/or disable them completely, then that is a poorly designed car…

[donk.]

Our work trucks come with the retard lamps on the side view mirrors (red indicator for when theres a car in your blind spot)

I bought 4$ fish eyes and slapped them overtop lol

4$ Fisheye > 1800$ blind spot detection system

Also: on topic of licencing.... GS8 mentioned the govt is getting rid of the 2nd test for your class 5 licence.
Yup its true.

what the fuck

The govt should be adding an annual exam for all drivers, not taking tests away. Make it online, make it VR, do something to reduce traffic and accidents.

Increase distracted driving tickets to automatic impound.
Doing your eye lashed on way to work? Impound.
Checking RS real estate thread on your way home at a red light? Impound. you know who you are

God dam it canada why you so soft

Anyone else also think about what the real cost of an accident is?
Dude rear ends someone by texting on highway
> Fire truck blocks off 2-3 lanes like usual for 1hr
> Tow truck finally shows up
> 10,000 20,000, 30,000? Cars stuck in traffic for an hour.
> How much fuel is burned by those cars?
> How many businesses have missed appointments and deliveries?
> How many people bill the customer / client for travel time?
> The trickle down effect, how deep does the rabbit hole go

Il see myself out

[Mikoyan]

Our work trucks come with the retard lamps on the side view mirrors (red indicator for when theres a car in your blind spot)

I bought 4$ fish eyes and slapped them overtop lol

4$ Fisheye > 1800$ blind spot detection system

Also: on topic of licencing.... GS8 mentioned the govt is getting rid of the 2nd test for your class 5 licence.
Yup its true.

what the fuck

The govt should be adding an annual exam for all drivers, not taking tests away. Make it online, make it VR, do something to reduce traffic and accidents.

Increase distracted driving tickets to automatic impound.
Doing your eye lashed on way to work? Impound.
Checking RS real estate thread on your way home at a red light? Impound. you know who you are

God dam it canada why you so soft

Anyone else also think about what the real cost of an accident is?
Dude rear ends someone by texting on highway
> Fire truck blocks off 2-3 lanes like usual for 1hr
> Tow truck finally shows up
> 10,000 20,000, 30,000? Cars stuck in traffic for an hour.
> How much fuel is burned by those cars?
> How many businesses have missed appointments and deliveries?
> How many people bill the customer / client for travel time?
> The trickle down effect, how deep does the rabbit hole go

Il see myself out

Shoulder checks are free. /s

But I agree with you.

[noclue]

Mandatory driver exams for people at 70years old then every 5 years after.
Ticket for dumbasses who dont turn on their headlights in rain/dark

[Manic!]

https://x.com/BYDCompany/status/1960343376097903012

That's 293.5 mp/h. The car has 2959 HP. Being electric you can add another 25% to 50% when comparing to a gad car because of instant torque.

[Gumby]

Our work trucks come with the retard lamps on the side view mirrors (red indicator for when theres a car in your blind spot)

I bought 4$ fish eyes and slapped them overtop lol

4$ Fisheye > 1800$ blind spot detection system

But the "retard lamps" only turn on/off, they don't make any noise or worse - prevent you from changing lanes...


Also: on topic of licencing.... GS8 mentioned the govt is getting rid of the 2nd test for your class 5 licence.
Yup its true.

what the fuck

The govt should be adding an annual exam for all drivers, not taking tests away. Make it online, make it VR, do something to reduce traffic and accidents.

ICBC probably doesn't have enough resources to implement that. There are long wait times for a road test as it is.

[whitev70r]

^ just make that 1st road test a bit harder (higher failure rate = more fees) including ramps on hwy and off hwy. I understand the 1st road test doesn't include that now. The only difference for the 2nd one is exactly that ... hwy entrance on and off.

[donk.]

ICBC probably doesn't have enough resources to implement that. There are long wait times for a road test as it is.

You arent wrong

Id happily pay 1% more in taxes, to reduce my drive time by 10 minutes per day. (1% goes to more licensing and traffic prevention programs)

Buuuuuuttt that will never happen, maybe when the sky turns orange

[noclue]

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a65911153/vw-golf-r-audi-rs3-five-cylinder-engine-report/

Cool 5-cylinder golf R!

[whitev70r]

^ is it coming to NA?

[roastpuff]

I'll believe it when it lands here and is purchasable by Badhobz

[danned]

Nissan bids fond farewell to R35 GT-R as final vehicle rolls off the line
https://global.nissannews.com/en/releases/nissan-bids-fond-farewell-to-r35-gt-r-as-final-vehicle-rolls-off-the-line

[Badhobz]

Im not buying another VW product….. or a Toyota product….. hell I’m pretty much done with new cars. If my next car uses 0w8 I’ll burn it to the motherfucking ground like a bitch ass beetle.

[trollface]

I’ll buy it

[Mikoyan]

https://nowtoronto.com/news/car-with-giant-staircase-attached-spotted-driving-in-mississauga/

I can't decide if it's just because of a high volume of bad drivers out there, or worse drivers than here..

Person backed into a building and drove off with the stairs. Or they're an Arrested Development fan.

[Klondike]

^ is it coming to NA?

If it doesn't, the Volvo C30 T5 is pretty similar except no AWD.

Im not buying another VW product….. or a Toyota product….. hell I’m pretty much done with new cars. If my next car uses 0w8 I’ll burn it to the motherfucking ground like a bitch ass beetle.


The GM 6.2 L87 V8s come to mind. The bandaid fix is to run a thicker oil lol.... Surprise surprise, 0w-08 baby oil is a terrible lubricant :lol

[RabidRat]

Im not buying [...] hell I’m pretty much done with new cars.

So um. There's something called the passage of time: today's new cars are tomorrow's old cars. What would you do then? :lol

Literally there's no other option but to guangdong-hoard a warehouse full of assorted 2010-2020 Toyota products, to last you the rest of your lifetime.

Or... you could just succumb to the sweet embrace a shiny new EV beetle. It's opening its legs for you: take it!!! Take ittt!!

[Badhobz]

I mean I literally have a collection of Toyotas from the best era. The Camry and ratrolla will outlast me.

[trollface]

An Alfa built by Fiat with wiring from an MG will outlast you brother.

[Badhobz]

Dats true. I don’t plan on being around for that long. This madness needs to end.

[acrophobia]

Anyone else get an email about $25 from Canadian Auto Parts Class Action Claims. Sounds legit from perusing the web, but... :considered:

https://dailyhive.com/canada/auto-parts-settlement-payments-canada

Email looks like this:

Your funds await!
$25.00
Select your financial institution to deposit funds.

Select a Financial Institution
Expiry: Sept 27, 2025

Message:

We are sending you payment for your claim under the Second Auto Parts Distribution. You were sent an email from Canadian Auto Parts Class Action Claims Administrator on August 27, 2025 with information about your security answer. If you are unable to locate that email, please call the Claims Administrator at 1-866-474-4331.

[whitev70r]

^ also in other thread, but yes, I got my $25. Auto deposited though.

[Badhobz]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kv5PTy2s93I

Pretty neat, i was just down in CALTY.

[68style]

What a collection of cuntbags… and some really nice cars

[Badhobz]

Yes. Basically like a 911 meat. Insufferable douche bags surrounding a butt ugly car. Just in this case it sounds really good thanks to Yamaha. But bleh.. that LFA design is god awful.

[EvoFire]

With the air quality being overall shit today, I realize I miss the ram air vents on old Toyotas and Hondas. It's cool enough outside that you really don't need to turn on AC, but BMWs don't get that ram air and I still have to turn on AC if I close the windows.

[radeonboy]

With the air quality being overall shit today, I realize I miss the ram air vents on old Toyotas and Hondas. It's cool enough outside that you really don't need to turn on AC, but BMWs don't get that ram air and I still have to turn on AC if I close the windows.

I usually turn off the A/C but keep the fan running in those scenarios - is that not almost the same thing?

[EvoFire]

I usually turn off the A/C but keep the fan running in those scenarios - is that not almost the same thing?

Cold start, yes. If the car has heatsoaked either because you parked in a warm parking lot or just the turbo is hot, then no. I don't know where the cabin intake is but it seems to be routing through the engine bay and it will just blow warm air.

[radeonboy]

Took my sister's BMW to activate CarPlay in the head unit at a 3rd party vendor - for some reason none of the HK BMWs in come with it from the factory and is not upgradable by the dealer or through the app.

No CarPlay would've been fine if the built-in maps was decent, but the built-in Tencent Maps in these BMWs can't do the simplest task of getting directions from a full address. Instead, it can only search for POIs that Tencent has poorly indexed, making it practically useless if I'm trying to go anywhere that's not a mall.

I don't get why BMW can't get CarPlay onto its cars after all these years when 99% of the Chinese cars here have them - it's a very bizarre omission.

https://i.ibb.co/FkpNpqjG/IX1-CARPLAY.jpg

[roastpuff]

I wonder if it's a regional/Chinese gov thing?

[radeonboy]

I wonder if it's a regional/Chinese gov thing?

How I understand it is that BMW structured CarPlay so that it's attached to ConnectedDrive server instead of being in the head unit like most cars, with the idea that owners can buy or pay a subscription for it (and other features like heated seats) through the app store. In Hong Kong's case, its server doesn't offer the app store component, so there's no workflow for owners to activate CarPlay the proper way. As to why the BMW HK won't activate it by default, every salesperson gives a different answer.

Originally I thought the CarPlay restriction was a regional / Chinese gov thing in the past, but all the BYDs / Zeekrs / Jaecoos sold here come with CarPlay as standard equipment.

I particularly like the Jaecoo 6 - it's got a giant screen for 3-row Apple CarPlay glory:
https://i.ibb.co/pjNrMLkz/Jaceoo-carplay.jpg

My absolute favorite feature of the car though is its 2000s knock-off MP3 player English translation - sometimes its Beijing accent even shines through:
https://i.ibb.co/XZF7RVgL/Translation-fail.jpg

Otherwise it's a pretty cool car - it's practically an all-electric Jimny with 280hp. Reliability / longevity TBD though.

https://i.ibb.co/F47tTtq4/J61.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/mph3zDv/J62.jpg

[noclue]

Another icon massacred
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ3SgapvUEk2knjSl6jBuSC3OWB3BiXs vf5wg&s

https://cdn.dealeraccelerate.com/msclassic/1/993/222476/1920x1440/2001-honda-prelude-type-sh-supercharged-250-hp-w-13-800-miles

https://automobiles.honda.com/future-cars/prelude

[EvoFire]

At least it's still coupe, unlike the RSX and Eclipse and Mustang.

[Badhobz]

That's not a defence when the coupe looks like a Prius instead of a proper prelude.

[noclue]

They gonna chop the roof off that new prelude and call it a "S2000"
SACRILEGE

Only Toyota seems to be decent for reviving old nameplates like the supra and upcoming MR2/Celica

[AstulzerRZD]

What was the audience for Prelude back in the day? Why didn't they buy like an E36 or Mx-5?

I think US pricing is gonna be FUCKED - Civic Hybrid touring and GR86 Performance Package is 34k.
I think the Prelude will be 38.

That sounds crazy but it's what a 2017 Accord Coupe EX-L 4cyl goes for after inflation.

[AstulzerRZD]

Porsche is set to break with 94 years of tradition in 2028 when it launches a replacement for the combustion-engined Macan, which will be its first production car with drive biased towards the front wheels. It will also adopt the similarly sized Q5’s Quattro Ultra drive system. But instead of heavily re-engineering it to offer a rear-biased four-wheel drive system – as Porsche did with the first Macan – it will instead be used largely unmodified for cost reasons.

LMFAO

[EvoFire]

LMFAO

Based on SG's review of the X3 vs SQ5, the SQ5 can already shuffle 70% of power to the rear wheels but be 100% FWD on the highway, so I'm expecting a direct port of that system with some minor tweaks.

The Macan was basically a reskinned Q5 from 3 generations ago, so this would be no different.

[Badhobz]

None of this surprises me. German automakers are broke and floundering in the wave of Chinese EV's.

Well BMW seems to want to double down on the pig ugly designs:

https://cdn.motor1.com/images/mgl/9m4Z7X/s1/bmw-x5-ev-il-render-di-motor1.com.jpg

Welcome to the monstrocity known as the x5. yes, lets take the iX cuz that was so fucking well recieved, and apply it to all our suv's.

https://www.bmw.ca/en/all-models/x-series/x3/bmw-x3/_jcr_content/root/maincontent/contentblueprint_527239036/contentblueprint_cop/carousel_copy_copy/contentblueprint/image_copy.coreimg.png/1742219713787/x3-30-xdrive-2.png
this new x3 is already fugly as hell.

[EvoFire]

I like it. I like the skinny nostrils and the narrow headlights. I do wish it was more shark nose but likely can't due to pedestrian regulations and aero.

[bcrdukes]

Not ugly enough. :(

[Eff-1]

You know you're old when cars you remember in your 20s are now popping up with collector plates :crybaby:

A couple weeks ago I saw a NB Miata with collector plates and I thought that was crazy.

Then I saw this EG Civic. That's wild to me.

https://i.postimg.cc/Z5YhghXL/IMG-5128.jpg

[mikemhg]

Another icon massacred
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ3SgapvUEk2knjSl6jBuSC3OWB3BiXs vf5wg&s

https://cdn.dealeraccelerate.com/msclassic/1/993/222476/1920x1440/2001-honda-prelude-type-sh-supercharged-250-hp-w-13-800-miles

https://automobiles.honda.com/future-cars/prelude

It actually really looks like the prior model Civic Coupe.

[noclue]

More like the cr-z (another failure trying to replicate the CRX) or the OG hybrid first gen honda insight coupe.

Only miata and beetle and mini cooper still stays OG with every generation

[Badhobz]

All new cars sucks !!!!

[bcrdukes]

I am curious - What made the CR-Z so bad and sell poorly?

[Eff-1]

I thought the CRZ looked great. I think what caught people off guard was rather than being a sporty newer version of the CRX, it was an anemic hybrid.

[EvoFire]

I am curious - What made the CR-Z so bad and sell poorly?

Gutless hybrid drivetrain ported directly from the Civic hybrid of the era, which itself was not that good. Based one what the CRX SHOULD have been in in the past, it should have gotten the R18 as base and K20/24 for a CRZ Si.

We got a 120hp hybrid drivetrain instead

[bcrdukes]

I want one. Thank you both.

[Eff-1]

I had an EP3 Civic and loved that car. CRZ had so much potential....

[EvoFire]

All the CRZ needed was a K20, but it was so short changed.

[Gumby]

In my opinion, the new X3 looks terrible. And if the new X5 looks like that, I'm not sure which is worse - that or the iX.

I guess we're just old and don't like these "futuristic" designs...

[EvoFire]

The X3 does look terrible, but the iX3 has potential to look better. It's on a completely different platform. The new X3 is codenamed G45 which is just a modified version of the last G01.

[RabidRat]

None of this surprises me. German automakers are broke and floundering in the wave of Chinese EV's.

Well BMW seems to want to double down on the pig ugly designs:

https://cdn.motor1.com/images/mgl/9m4Z7X/s1/bmw-x5-ev-il-render-di-motor1.com.jpg

Welcome to the monstrocity known as the x5. yes, lets take the iX cuz that was so fucking well recieved, and apply it to all our suv's.

I love it. That's one ugly rat-faced son of a biatch. With ugly, you have to go all the way. And I believe they accomplished that goal here.

Plus it looks like Rattrap which is cool.

https://www.revscene.net/forums/customavatars/avatar16425_2.gif

[EvoFire]

I love it. That's one ugly rat-faced son of a biatch. With ugly, you have to go all the way. And I believe they accomplished that goal here.

Plus it looks like Rattrap which is cool.

https://www.revscene.net/forums/customavatars/avatar16425_2.gif

That rattrap sucks though, and he fucked himself up good early in the series. I prefer the one in Beast Wars.

[Badhobz]

Bat strap ?! What’s a bat strap ?!?

[RabidRat]

That rattrap sucks though, and he fucked himself up good early in the series. I prefer the one in Beast Wars.

This is him in Beast Wars! In Season 2 he got blasted by a nuke or something, which gave him this Transmetal form.

Here's the robot form for Transmetal Rattrap:
https://ae01.alicdn.com/kf/S3dff012946e445df8f5e018dc798559cT.jpg_640x640q90. jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lznKs_b_ur0

You must've been thinking Beast Machines. Ya, fuck Beast Machines... I stopped watching after 2 episodes, total garbage.

[acrophobia]

You know you're old when cars you remember in your 20s are now popping up with collector plates :crybaby:

A couple weeks ago I saw a NB Miata with collector plates and I thought that was crazy.

Then I saw this EG Civic. That's wild to me.

https://i.postimg.cc/Z5YhghXL/IMG-5128.jpg

My brother sent me a pic of this exact car on the weekend, noting the collector plates to make me feel old :okay:

[radeonboy]

I love it. That's one ugly rat-faced son of a biatch. With ugly, you have to go all the way. And I believe they accomplished that goal here.

Plus it looks like Rattrap which is cool.

Here's the leaked image of the production iX3 - it'll be officially announced in a few hours (2AM).

https://i.ibb.co/CS19nrC/541194477-18419524690109521-7962258273689437507-n.jpg

[Badhobz]

Fuck that’s ugly. It makes the pig nosed m4 look so good now and that bulbous m2 a super model.

[red kryptonite]

honestly, bmw's design is such hit and miss.
on one hand they given us the current x1 x5 m2 m3 m4.
on the other hand, we got the ix 5 and 7 series... i mean, i like the m5 wagon but thats only because its a M-wagon.

they should have just beefed up the x1 for the new x5.

https://www.motortrend.com/files/6697f387031cbc000865b9fd/001-2024-bmw-x1-m35i-lead.jpg

https://www.motortrend.com/files/6697f38b52f2c700084400c2/002-2024-bmw-x1-m35i.jpg

https://www.motortrend.com/files/6697f395bed854000802d72f/006-2024-bmw-x1-m35i.jpg

[EvoFire]

I like the iX3 from pictures. It's clear they took inspiration from the E9 shark nose era of cars. I like the skinny kidneys but of course will reserve judgement until I see the real thing. The tail lights I'm not sure about as it's looking too much like the A7/S7 tail lights and I thought those were ugly.

The 1st gen G chassis SUVs were mostly good, I even like the split headlight X7 and it works better than the 7 series sedan. And of course the X1, too bad it drives so poorly.

[RabidRat]

https://www.motortrend.com/files/6697f395bed854000802d72f/006-2024-bmw-x1-m35i.jpg

Damn, the X1 looks good. Especially in that blue.

[Badhobz]

the new x1 is so friggin big its like the first gen x5 in size, or more akin to the x3.

I dont get why they keep inflating these sausages. The x5 can already be had with a third row which is moving into x7 territory. I dont get it... what happened to the og x1 size!?
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/87/BMW_X1_%28US%2C_first_gen%29_%28cropped%29.jpg
this was basically an allroad 3 series wagon... aka my favorite

[bcrdukes]

Switching gears, time to focus our efforts on hating on more Toyotas! For context, I transitioned away from Japanese cars to European for a while, and this Corolla and the Boxster are the cars I've owned the longest.

So our Corolla iM is hitting the 150,000KM mark, and by the end of the year, I expect we'll hit 160,000KM. With that in mind, I was thinking of getting ahead of some preventative maintenance before the harsh Ontario winters hit and thought of doing the following:

1. Coolant flush - The car is running the factory coolant since we bought the car brand new in 2017
2. Spark plugs - Probably time to replace (as per owner's manual)
3. Accessory belt - It shows no signs of cracking (that I can see) but it is the original belt
4. Waterpump and thermostat - No signs of leaking. Good idea to replace both?
5. Timing chain - Leave it alone or replace?
6. Engine / transmission mounts - leave them alone or replace?
7. Brake fluid flush - it's running on to 3 years, so probably time to flush.

I was thinking DIY'ing but I don't have the time to tackle this while working and in school. I asked a few Toyota dealers and a few independent garages and most of them just laughed at me and only suggested flushing the brake fluid and coolant, and replacing the spark plugs. Everything else was :fuckthatshit: (Replace it when it breaks.)

It's weird to hear that, especially when I've become accustomed to European maintenance. You either replace it as a preventative measure, or deal with it when shit goes south. Crazy how these cars are still well built, despite how much we shit on Toyota. I don't know if I'm complaining or of this is a traumatic reaction to European car ownership. Any thoughts/opinions?

[AstulzerRZD]

What do you think taxi drivers are doing here?

iM are literally cockroaches, you could probably run it without a water pump and it'd still live.

Timing chain sounds more like a 3-400k km kinda thing.

[bcrdukes]

Stupid Toyotas! :mad:

[supafamous]

honestly, bmw's design is such hit and miss.
on one hand they given us the current x1 x5 m2 m3 m4.
on the other hand, we got the ix 5 and 7 series... i mean, i like the m5 wagon but thats only because its a M-wagon.

https://www.motortrend.com/files/6697f395bed854000802d72f/006-2024-bmw-x1-m35i.jpg

The X1 looks better in those photos than in person IMO especially when it doesn't have big wheels or lacks the M package - it looks like it's 2" too high (huge wheel gap) and the cut lines in person make it look really cheap.

The current X3 is such a big step backwards from the previous one (and the interior is cheap-ass!) - there's a couple colours that it kinda works in (and if it's a M50 trim) but the base ones are horrible.

I don't mind the iX3 - it's a bit too slab sided like the X3 but definitely cleaned up.

[Badhobz]

Switching gears, time to focus our efforts on hating on more Toyotas! For context, I transitioned away from Japanese cars to European for a while, and this Corolla and the Boxster are the cars I've owned the longest.

So our Corolla iM is hitting the 150,000KM mark, and by the end of the year, I expect we'll hit 160,000KM. With that in mind, I was thinking of getting ahead of some preventative maintenance before the harsh Ontario winters hit and thought of doing the following:

1. Coolant flush - The car is running the factory coolant since we bought the car brand new in 2017
2. Spark plugs - Probably time to replace (as per owner's manual)
3. Accessory belt - It shows no signs of cracking (that I can see) but it is the original belt
4. Waterpump and thermostat - No signs of leaking. Good idea to replace both?
5. Timing chain - Leave it alone or replace?
6. Engine / transmission mounts - leave them alone or replace?
7. Brake fluid flush - it's running on to 3 years, so probably time to flush.

I was thinking DIY'ing but I don't have the time to tackle this while working and in school. I asked a few Toyota dealers and a few independent garages and most of them just laughed at me and only suggested flushing the brake fluid and coolant, and replacing the spark plugs. Everything else was :fuckthatshit: (Replace it when it breaks.)

It's weird to hear that, especially when I've become accustomed to European maintenance. You either replace it as a preventative measure, or deal with it when shit goes south. Crazy how these cars are still well built, despite how much we shit on Toyota. I don't know if I'm complaining or of this is a traumatic reaction to European car ownership. Any thoughts/opinions?

dont diy it, all those fluids are annoying and poisonous. Plus disposal of such fluids are a pain in the ass... if you spill that shit anywhere, youre going to regret it. Dont forget to do the transmission fluid flush, at 150,000km this should be your 2nd or 3rd tranny flush.

Waterpump, thermostat you usually do with the belts. i think that should be a 1-1.5k job at the dealer. You can do this yourself but why? what a pain in the ass... you fuck up a tensioner and youre gonna have a bad day.

plugs id do that yourself, easy with a 4 banger. all accessible and dont really require much in way of specialized tools.

timing chain and mounts are only done as needed. its a toyota, so its never needed.

[whitev70r]

honestly, bmw's design is such hit and miss.
on one hand they given us the current x1 x5 m2 m3 m4.
on the other hand, we got the ix 5 and 7 series... i mean, i like the m5 wagon but thats only because its a M-wagon.

they should have just beefed up the x1 for the new x5.

https://www.motortrend.com/files/6697f38b52f2c700084400c2/002-2024-bmw-x1-m35i.jpg


Saw one on the road on the way to work today after seeing this post. It wasn't the M sport version but nice strong lines, like the overall styling and didn't look bad at all. it was this blue as well. Only thing I'd do right away is find a set of lowering springs and really make it a wagon, not a compact SUV.

But does it come in a hybrid? :lol

[RabidRat]

I think there's even an EV iX1 that looks just like the gas version, in Europe.

Damn shame they didn't bring it over.

[radeonboy]

I think there's even an EV iX1 that looks just like the gas version, in Europe.

Damn shame they didn't bring it over.

That's what my sister picked up last month and the EV powertrain fixes everything lacking in the ICE powertrain. 313hp and 364 lb-ft of instant torque is pretty potent for its size, and more than enough for city driving.

Canada does get the same powertrain, but only in Countryman SE guise.

[bcrdukes]

She needs to bring her car to the meet so we can confuse its colour.

[AstulzerRZD]

dont diy it, all those fluids are annoying and poisonous. Plus disposal of such fluids are a pain in the ass... if you spill that shit anywhere, youre going to regret it. Dont forget to do the transmission fluid flush, at 150,000km this should be your 2nd or 3rd tranny flush.

Waterpump, thermostat you usually do with the belts. i think that should be a 1-1.5k job at the dealer. You can do this yourself but why? what a pain in the ass... you fuck up a tensioner and youre gonna have a bad day.

plugs id do that yourself, easy with a 4 banger. all accessible and dont really require much in way of specialized tools.

timing chain and mounts are only done as needed. its a toyota, so its never needed.

isnt there a filter in the cvt pan as well?

has battery been replaced? i rmb my ontario cars were running through them in like 3 years

[EvoFire]

Switching gears, time to focus our efforts on hating on more Toyotas! For context, I transitioned away from Japanese cars to European for a while, and this Corolla and the Boxster are the cars I've owned the longest.

So our Corolla iM is hitting the 150,000KM mark, and by the end of the year, I expect we'll hit 160,000KM. With that in mind, I was thinking of getting ahead of some preventative maintenance before the harsh Ontario winters hit and thought of doing the following:

1. Coolant flush - The car is running the factory coolant since we bought the car brand new in 2017
2. Spark plugs - Probably time to replace (as per owner's manual)
3. Accessory belt - It shows no signs of cracking (that I can see) but it is the original belt
4. Waterpump and thermostat - No signs of leaking. Good idea to replace both?
5. Timing chain - Leave it alone or replace?
6. Engine / transmission mounts - leave them alone or replace?
7. Brake fluid flush - it's running on to 3 years, so probably time to flush.

I was thinking DIY'ing but I don't have the time to tackle this while working and in school. I asked a few Toyota dealers and a few independent garages and most of them just laughed at me and only suggested flushing the brake fluid and coolant, and replacing the spark plugs. Everything else was :fuckthatshit: (Replace it when it breaks.)

It's weird to hear that, especially when I've become accustomed to European maintenance. You either replace it as a preventative measure, or deal with it when shit goes south. Crazy how these cars are still well built, despite how much we shit on Toyota. I don't know if I'm complaining or of this is a traumatic reaction to European car ownership. Any thoughts/opinions?

:lawl:

Just do the coolant and spark plugs, it's a Toyota. Realistically you can probably skip those two as well.

Don't touch the thermostat until it leaks, it can probably go 350k so it's a waste of money.
Timing chain, if you can touch it from the oil filler cap (I can do that in my Mazdas) give the chain a tug to see how the slack is. If it's just a small amount of deflection, leave it. The chain on my Mazda didn't have problems and it's a hipo turbo. I don't think Toyota chains are known to stretch or break, it's not a Vitara.
You should know how to check for engine mounts, if it's not vibrating excessively, leave it alone.
You could do brake flush, but some people never flush the brakes after the first few years of maintenance.

The X1 looks better in those photos than in person IMO especially when it doesn't have big wheels or lacks the M package - it looks like it's 2" too high (huge wheel gap) and the cut lines in person make it look really cheap.

The current X3 is such a big step backwards from the previous one (and the interior is cheap-ass!) - there's a couple colours that it kinda works in (and if it's a M50 trim) but the base ones are horrible.

I don't mind the iX3 - it's a bit too slab sided like the X3 but definitely cleaned up.

The X3 is terrible, but overall BMW has been cost cutting the hell out of it's lower end cars with the 1 and 3 series cars. The G01 was already losing little things here and there at the end of it's cycle. My take is they spent a fuck ton of money developing the G01 and it shows, for this generation they are just phoning it in.

Saw one on the road on the way to work today after seeing this post. It wasn't the M sport version but nice strong lines, like the overall styling and didn't look bad at all. it was this blue as well. Only thing I'd do right away is find a set of lowering springs and really make it a wagon, not a compact SUV.

But does it come in a hybrid? :lol

There's a iX1 in the rest of the world, the reception for that car seems to be quite good.

[bcrdukes]

BRB replacing everything on the Corolla because deep down inside, I still love BMW.

[RabidRat]

Someone should build a website that lets you project the total cost of ownership of a vehicle, over years & kms of ownership as inputs:

-MSRP minus the residual resale value
-typical aggregate maintenance cost (including replacement tire or oil cost because maybe this particular model is using something weird)
-typical aggregate repair cost
-typical insurance cost
-typical fueling cost

All this data is available, just nobody's slapped it all together yet.

[Gumby]

honestly, bmw's design is such hit and miss.
on one hand they given us the current x1 x5 m2 m3 m4.
on the other hand, we got the ix 5 and 7 series... i mean, i like the m5 wagon but thats only because its a M-wagon.

they should have just beefed up the x1 for the new x5.
Agreed with you, except the M2, M3, M4.

The M2 is decent looking (neither good nor bad), and I detest the pig-nosed M3 and M4.

[radeonboy]

Someone should build a website that lets you project the total cost of ownership of a vehicle, over years & kms of ownership as inputs:

-MSRP minus the residual resale value
-typical aggregate maintenance cost (including replacement tire or oil cost because maybe this particular model is using something weird)
-typical aggregate repair cost
-typical insurance cost
-typical fueling cost

All this data is available, just nobody's slapped it all together yet.

I do this for my cars, but in a spreadsheet instead of a website.

I imagine the hardest part for most people is consistent and accurate data entry, which is a very difficult standard for most people to meet without at least some gamification or reward. Plus, the resale value is quite dependent on so many factors and takes years to determine for any one vehicle (unless you find a niche group of people that flips cars often).

[EvoFire]

Someone should build a website that lets you project the total cost of ownership of a vehicle, over years & kms of ownership as inputs:

-MSRP minus the residual resale value
-typical aggregate maintenance cost (including replacement tire or oil cost because maybe this particular model is using something weird)
-typical aggregate repair cost
-typical insurance cost
-typical fueling cost

All this data is available, just nobody's slapped it all together yet.

The really detailed amounts down to the dollar really only matters if you are buying a Rav4 or CRV comparison and trying to figure out which one is going to give you more trouble free and low cost mileage.

Once you get into the luxury brands, it's become more of an emotional purchase. Yes badge buying makes it an emotional purchase.

When I bought the X5, the purchase price mattered, but that's because an equivalent Cayenne is worth 30k more. Insurance cost really didn't matter because compared to daycare costs it was just a small part of life. Saving $300 a year only pays for a year of daycare.

A portion of it was "we need a bigger car" and a portion of it was "I don't want to pay so much for gas" which justified the PHEV part of the equation. We weren't going to buy a Highlander hybrid at roughly the same cost of entry but with significantly cheaper maintenance moving forward - that part was emotional.

[AstulzerRZD]

Edmunds does this but it's pretty stupid

1) doesn't consider maintenance in year 5-10
2) doesn't consider leasehacking and other shenanigans
3) doesn't consider dealer discounts (10%+ for many brands in the US)

[RabidRat]

Plus, the resale value is quite dependent on so many factors and takes years to determine for any one vehicle

Just as a first-order starting point, you could dump the used listing data from FB Marketplace, Car Gurus, AutoTrader, CL, etc, and look at pricing vs model year vs kms.

I think there's enough there that you can do some rough projections.

I think a lot of us could reasonably accurately guess how much a particular car of whatever year and kms should cost, even taking into account how much to scale the actual purchase price by, vs the listed price. If we can intuit that without numbers in front of us, I'm sure we could do the curve fitting on the ton available data.

For very niche models with sparse data, then yeah, this tool would just have to say something like "insufficient data, can only guess based on the market segment this vehicle is in (e.g. european luxury sub-compact SUV) with a "YMMV" disclaimer lol.

[AstulzerRZD]

The closest thing scraping auction data:
https://www.dashboard-light.com

A great tool would need MMR auction access + some combo of forum scraping. ChatGPT could do a good job if MMR provided the data feed in an MCP server.

FWIW, I don;'t think there's a market for a TCO tool:

Reliability/TCO buyers probably going straight to Toyota/Honda.
Lease/TCO buyers like me are shopping brokers/incentives/payments.

Used German buyers probably don't care - it's big body Benz or bust.
Low credit buyers probably don't care - finance department matters most.
Buyers in smaller markets don't care too - their used options are limited.

[RabidRat]

You're probably right :lol

[AstulzerRZD]

tbh a fun thing to build could be a scraper that...

1) scrapes leasehacker for various broker deals, reading spreadsheets
2) replies to every reddit "what car should I buy/lease" post with the better deal if their deal is shit

OR

1) scrape the dashboard light website or even better, alldata's failure tool that tells you how often a repair is
2) reply to ppl and tell them how shit the car they're looking at is

[radeonboy]

Just as a first-order starting point, you could dump the used listing data from FB Marketplace, Car Gurus, AutoTrader, CL, etc, and look at pricing vs model year vs kms.

I think there's enough there that you can do some rough projections.

I think a lot of us could reasonably accurately guess how much a particular car of whatever year and kms should cost, even taking into account how much to scale the actual purchase price by, vs the listed price. If we can intuit that without numbers in front of us, I'm sure we could do the curve fitting on the ton available data.

For very niche models with sparse data, then yeah, this tool would just have to say something like "insufficient data, can only guess based on the market segment this vehicle is in (e.g. european luxury sub-compact SUV) with a "YMMV" disclaimer lol.

Many dealerships have a tool that does exactly that - used primarily to help sales managers evaluate trade-ins and price used cars for the retail market according to retail and wholesale market data. It takes into account several factors, such as mileage, number of units on the market, average days on market, location of the vehicle, vehicle condition etc. to help managers determine an appropriate asking price.

I imagine there's enough data in there to model a depreciation curve for most vehicles, but from personal experience, it does nothing for niche vehicles based on how much I've been lowballed in the past.

In your mind, who are the main users for the site?

[RabidRat]

Us! How much time are we all spending on our spreadsheets that we could've been using doing more valuable things with our lives?!

Somebody could've automated all that. I'd even be willing to pay something for that time back, and maybe other people would too.

[bcrdukes]

I see a business opportunity brewing.

[underscore]

West Coast Toyota did a sheet with that info for the original owner of our old Matrix when the lady bought it. The service intervals are all available so you just need the pricing of those services and then you'll know what it costs per km/year of ownership.

1. Coolant flush - The car is running the factory coolant since we bought the car brand new in 2017
2. Spark plugs - Probably time to replace (as per owner's manual)
3. Accessory belt - It shows no signs of cracking (that I can see) but it is the original belt
4. Waterpump and thermostat - No signs of leaking. Good idea to replace both?
5. Timing chain - Leave it alone or replace?
6. Engine / transmission mounts - leave them alone or replace?
7. Brake fluid flush - it's running on to 3 years, so probably time to flush.

Change the fluids, check the plugs yourself, leave the rest alone.

[Badhobz]

So I went to fill up the gas on my ratrolla (I don’t remember when’s the last time I filled her up, it’s been that long). I went to this shell station on garden city.

I told the young East Indian lady attendant that I don’t need help, I’ll do it myself. I go inside to use the tap function (stupid shell doesn’t have tap on the pump, not sure why)

and when I come out, I see this Asian lady posing next to the car , leaning her ass against it, and taking selfies. I don’t even know where the fuck she came from.

I go up to her and was like, can I help you? She looked shocked. Then she said went utterly insane and said HEY DONT TOUCH MY CAR. I was like what the fuck!? She’s then said shit in mandarin like, this is my car walk away please. Then she tried to get in the passenger side, but since the door handles were retracted she didn’t know how to open them. So I stand there looking shocked like what the fuck is happening, and she tells me to go away or else her husband will be mad!

She then turns her phone on me and start filming me. I guess in case I fucking attack her or something. And she says shit in mandarin like this guy is trying to steal my car!

Just for background, I was wearing my usual Kirkland flip flops, some bench sweat pants, and a very ugly t shirt that value village probably won’t even sell. So I guess I do look like a fucking hobo….

So now I’m just confused, slightly aroused (actually more than slightly), and utterly not sure of what to do next. So I take out the key and press the unlock button and of course the door handles pop out. This bitch then stops filming and of course runs the hell away.

I kinda wanna chase her down and fuck her in the ass…. That kind of crazy is hot as hell. Worst part about it, I didn’t even fucking get a photo of her or a video!! Arrrghh

[68style]

This story went in a direction I didn’t expect

[SSM_DC5]

:worthless:

Dashcam video of this please.

[Badhobz]

Useless, I got nothing cuz the car was off. I just checked it. I thought this fucking this was wired in, but now I’m worried cuz it doesn’t seem to record when the car is off. This ghetto thinkware dashcam is probably dead.

[teggy604]

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1997-acura-integra-type-r-26/

Didn't know there was a mint local 97 ITR. Sold for 67,000 USD on BAT.

Then there is this yellow ITR. Sold for 204,000 USD.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/2001-acura-integra-type-r-69/

[is350]

https://m.youtube.com/shorts/n-u_66RsDIo

[whitev70r]

^ that's racist ... but true.

[noclue]

https://www.porsche.com/canada/en/models/911/911-turbo-models/911-turbo-s/

Just specced out the new beetle Turbo S for $340K... and I didnt even go heavy on the options. (Why isn't the top spec beetle fully optioned?)

At this price I don't see the value proposition compared to ferrari/lambo/mclaren anymore. If you wanted to stunt, most girls cant tell the difference between a base cayman and the turbo S.

[bcrdukes]

Do girls even care about these cars anymore? :confused:

[Badhobz]

https://www.porsche.com/canada/en/models/911/911-turbo-models/911-turbo-s/

Just specced out the new beetle Turbo S for $340K... and I didnt even go heavy on the options. (Why isn't the top spec beetle fully optioned?)

At this price I don't see the value proposition compared to ferrari/lambo/mclaren anymore. If you wanted to stunt, most girls cant tell the difference between a base cayman and the turbo S.

value? what fucking value. Most overrated piece of shit car in the last 10 years. I dont know why everyone's got their dicks up supporting this catastrophe of a company.

Like i keep saying time and time again, a 911 was and always had been (pre 997 days) only 7-10k more than a m3. For that amount of money extra, you get a weird ass backwards sports car. Fine.. its at least Interesting.... I agree with this money proposition and marketing placement. It drives quite well with the hydraulic steering and the manual trans on the 997 was a fun little sports car.

nowadays its almost 100k more than a relative m3 and what the fuck do you get? a stripper base interior that looks the same as my hilterbox, digital gauges, even the left turn key has turned into a shitty start button. 220k easily for a trash ass base model carrera that has a subawuuuu engine, trash interior, and not even properly spec'd options. All the while the exterior has grown so large its basically a full size 7 series sedan and yet it still has that goofy fucking beetle face. Why is a beetle in the same price category as a base model ferrari? why is a beetle more money than an aston vantage? These people are insane. Anyone who buys one needs to be executed for supporting fascism. its a fucking beetle, not a god damn exotic car. You can price it like an exotic car, but you're literally in the same company as when those beetles were selling for sub 20k (996's) 10-15 years ago.

[yray]

and when I come out, I see this Asian lady posing next to the car , leaning her ass against it, and taking selfies. I don’t even know where the fuck she came from.


was she hot?

[noclue]

value? what fucking value. Most overrated piece of shit car in the last 10 years. I dont know why everyone's got their dicks up supporting this catastrophe of a company.

Like i keep saying time and time again, a 911 was and always had been (pre 997 days) only 7-10k more than a m3. For that amount of money extra, you get a weird ass backwards sports car. Fine.. its at least Interesting.... I agree with this money proposition and marketing placement. It drives quite well with the hydraulic steering and the manual trans on the 997 was a fun little sports car.

nowadays its almost 100k more than a relative m3 and what the fuck do you get? a stripper base interior that looks the same as my hilterbox, digital gauges, even the left turn key has turned into a shitty start button. 220k easily for a trash ass base model carrera that has a subawuuuu engine, trash interior, and not even properly spec'd options. All the while the exterior has grown so large its basically a full size 7 series sedan and yet it still has that goofy fucking beetle face. Why is a beetle in the same price category as a base model ferrari? why is a beetle more money than an aston vantage? These people are insane. Anyone who buys one needs to be executed for supporting fascism. its a fucking beetle, not a god damn exotic car. You can price it like an exotic car, but you're literally in the same company as when those beetles were selling for sub 20k (996's) 10-15 years ago.

Current M cars are actually cheaper than previous gens when you consider inflation and the weak CAD.

Beetle turbos were a value all in one supercar that offered a manual and reliability. But now no more manual, a model 3 performance offer the same 0-100 speed and modern day ferrari/lambos are not unreliable as the old days (mclaren still bad I heard)

[Badhobz]

was she hot?

no really... i mean the craziness adds some points but physically she's pretty meh. plain jane looking asian woman... probably late 30's early 40's.

[Badhobz]

Current M cars are actually cheaper than previous gens when you consider inflation and the weak CAD.

Beetle turbos were a value all in one supercar that offered a manual and reliability. But now no more manual, a model 3 performance offer the same 0-100 speed and modern day ferrari/lambos are not unreliable as the old days (mclaren still bad I heard)

agreed! m3/m4's the best performance buy right now. When a lousy 3 cylinder gr corolla is 60k, the performance you get on a base model m3 with a stick is perfect. i built one out the other day, 1600 a month, zero down. Thats basically what the GR corolla is on a lease.

[68style]

1600 a month + insurance + gas is mental for a car tho lol

I guess you can live in the car ?

[Badhobz]

yeah but that's the going rate for anything special. That ionic 5N is 1300 a month too.

but 4000 a month for a lousy beetle is a bridge too far.

[68style]

Now that I know your limits, I will be able to exploit them in battle

[AstulzerRZD]

X3M Competition had 0.01% lease rate with loyalty..

Buddy got one for $1200 CAD taxes in - insane.

[trollface]

Downpayment?

[AstulzerRZD]

Nope, no equity from the previous lease.
0 down, 24 months.
10% dealer discount.

[noclue]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXCfADxDHrc

Agreeing with these two old farts about peak cars being 2015. GET OFF MY LAWN GEN Z!!!

[Badhobz]

2027 corolla probably…

https://www.motor1.com/photos/912010/new-toyota-corolla-design-leaked-in-china/#8248283_new-toyota-corolla-looks-leaked-in-china

Lazy ass Toyota just slapped the Prius head onto the corolla body. Looks very meh. As a purveyor of all things corolla, this isn’t good.

[bcrdukes]

Lazy ass Toyota just slapped the Prius head onto the corolla body.

Excuse me, sir. Toyota wants to remind you all that this is called "continuous improvement" aka kaizen. :heckno:

Looks better than the new IS. Good god.

[bcrdukes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXCfADxDHrc

Agreeing with these two old farts about peak cars being 2015. GET OFF MY LAWN GEN Z!!!

Nothing can be worse than that stupid ass touchscreen control for air vents on the damn Panamera. What a stupid boneheaded move, Porsche! :mad: (Edit: We have to thank Tesla for that.)

[underscore]

What was around in 2015 that made it the peak? I'd say by that point we were already starting to go downhill.

value? what fucking value. Most overrated piece of shit car in the last 10 years. I dont know why everyone's got their dicks up supporting this catastrophe of a company.

I'd say even longer. I think it was like 15 years ago someone stuck a 911 engine into a Cayman and it performed better than the 911 the engine was from. So all their nonsense about these extra performance versions of 911s and it's not even the best one of their chassis' to be putting it all in.

[supafamous]

Nothing can be worse than that stupid ass touchscreen control for air vents on the damn Panamera. What a stupid boneheaded move, Porsche! :mad: (Edit: We have to thank Tesla for that.)

We need to bring back oscillating vents. My parents 1993 Mazda 626 had them and they were awesome.

[AstulzerRZD]

Excuse me, sir. Toyota wants to remind you all that this is called "continuous improvement" aka kaizen. :heckno:

Looks better than the new IS. Good god.

Deleting the multi-link rear from the base Corolla? Who needs that anyways - torsion beam = kaizen beam.

[RabidRat]

Deleting the multi-link rear from the base Corolla? Who needs that anyways - torsion beam = kaizen beam.

Legitimately though, it's more compact (more interior space), less stuff to break (lower maintenance & repair costs), and cheaper to build (more budget for other stuff). Sounds like a win win win for anybody who doesn't give a damn and just wants to drive at or below speed limit.

[bcrdukes]

Legitimately though, it's more compact (more interior space), less stuff to break (lower maintenance & repair costs), and cheaper to build (more budget for other stuff). Sounds like a win win win for anybody who doesn't give a damn and just wants to drive at or below speed limit.

Weird that my Corolla has a rear multi-link suspension but still a MacPherson strut up front. Regardless, it's neat and novel, but not a necessity. As you said, it's a car for the common people, not a club racer edition. People can get the Corolla Apex Edition for that. :pokerface::pokerface::pokerface:

Re: Lower maintenance and repair costs - This is perfect for people like my dad: Oil changes, routine maintenance, and what have you = :fuckthatshit: He loves his RX300.

[AstulzerRZD]

iM and the 12th gen hatch/sedan launched with multi-link.

12th gen refresh got the 2.0 instead of the 1.8
and also got the launch gear CVT across all trims
but the multi-link became torsion beam for LE trim

[AstulzerRZD]

Legitimately though, it's more compact (more interior space), less stuff to break (lower maintenance & repair costs), and cheaper to build (more budget for other stuff). Sounds like a win win win for anybody who doesn't give a damn and just wants to drive at or below speed limit.

the Hyundais, Corolla, and Golf TDI torsion beam are all fine but the Mazda 3 crashes over all sorts of bumps in Ontario - it's unacceptable

[bcrdukes]

the Mazda 3 crashes over all sorts of bumps in Ontario - it's unacceptable

But...people still buy them despite this, and the accelerated rust with their cars? Makes no sense. :heckno:

[EvoFire]

Weird that my Corolla has a rear multi-link suspension but still a MacPherson strut up front. Regardless, it's neat and novel, but not a necessity. As you said, it's a car for the common people, not a club racer edition. People can get the Corolla Apex Edition for that. :pokerface::pokerface::pokerface:

Re: Lower maintenance and repair costs - This is perfect for people like my dad: Oil changes, routine maintenance, and what have you = :fuckthatshit: He loves his RX300.

Most cars have Macstrut front and multi rear, all the 3 series and below cars have that setup. You have to step into a 5 series to get double wishbone front. Even the 911 was Macstrut front until 992.1 when they put double wishbones in the GT3. So your iM is a base 911 :lawl:

Macstruts are cheap, and easy to package and honestly NOT terrible, the downside is just no dynamic camber gain and you have to run big camber on a heavier car to do track work. But honestly, it's a Corolla :pokerface:

[AstulzerRZD]

But...people still buy them despite this, and the accelerated rust with their cars? Makes no sense. :heckno:

It’s the styling and interior - young corporate girlies/dudes buying their first car love it

[Traum]

Legitimately though, it's more compact (more interior space), less stuff to break (lower maintenance & repair costs), and cheaper to build (more budget for other stuff). Sounds like a win win win for anybody who doesn't give a damn and just wants to drive at or below speed limit.
The thing with the Corolla is -- only the cheap trims come with the rear torsion beam -- the SE / XSE trims are still equipped with multi-link rear suspension, which means the chassis or subframe needs to be built to allow for both types of suspension to work. So while the rear torsion beam is more compact, it doesn't allow for an interior with more space bcos Toyota is still building the same chassis / interior that has the space reserved for the multi-link suspension.

In the end, it is nothing more than a cost reduction measure.

Now, cars with rear torsion beams can still handle fairly well -- my pos shxtbox Mazda has a rear torsion beam, and it handles relatively well. The MkIV Golf also had a rear torsion beam, and it was reasonable good to drive as well. But of course, a typical Corolla isn't built with driving dynamics in mind...

[bcrdukes]

But honestly, it's a Corolla :pokerface:

But...my car is a blue M3. :suspicious:

[AstulzerRZD]

Idk how they fucked up the Corolla so bad.

The Camry closed the gap with Accord, getting crazy nice seats, chassis/steering feel, etc
Corolla still feels 50% worse than civic.

[68style]

You should contract out to manufacturers since you know exactly what’s wrong with every single one of them and exactly what they need to do or should be doing.

How are you not CEO of one of them yet?

[EvoFire]

Idk how they fucked up the Corolla so bad.

The Camry closed the gap with Accord, getting crazy nice seats, chassis/steering feel, etc
Corolla still feels 50% worse than civic.

Isn't it more so they haven't updated it? It's due for an update, it's going to be on it's 8th model year for 26

[AstulzerRZD]

You should contract out to manufacturers since you know exactly what’s wrong with every single one of them and exactly what they need to do or should be doing.

How are you not CEO of one of them yet?

It's funny you should ask... easy to criticize since I'm in the cheap seats now.
Been out of automotive for a while but it gave me a lot of appreciation for what's just about the world's biggest group project.

I've bounced around a bit - did product planning at the bankrupt Japanese OEM, validation work at another, crash safety at a Big 3, and competed in SAE autodrive.
Still under NDA for most of this work & with Continental.

I still remember one folder with like 50 different docs to fix misaligned interior trim on the RX - seems simple but brutal to actually do.
An small international army of materials, manufacturing, quality engineers loses sleep everytime there's a rumor of problems.

See the shit they did to root cause the Tundra failures:
https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/rcl/2024/RMISC-24V381-8150.pdf

Then think about the supply chain, facilities, manufacturing engineering to decide to make and ship 100k long blocks from Japan instead of having dealers rebuild them.

[AstulzerRZD]

Isn't it more so they haven't updated it? It's due for an update, it's going to be on it's 8th model year for 26

Toyota's investments these days are in the manufacturing and supply chain side so that they can manufacture and ship more hybrids.

For example, Pre-pandemic supply chains enabled TMMC to make 4-5 RAV4H back to back.
Post-pandemic, parts shortage and reduced staffing means they could only make 2 of them... and even then, doing 2 back to back meant pulling staff from another task.

Weld was also another bottleneck for moonroofs which even LE+ trim had.
It's now gated to XLE/XSE.

[teggy604]

Most cars have Macstrut front and multi rear, all the 3 series and below cars have that setup. You have to step into a 5 series to get double wishbone front. Even the 911 was Macstrut front until 992.1 when they put double wishbones in the GT3. So your iM is a base 911 :lawl:

Macstruts are cheap, and easy to package and honestly NOT terrible, the downside is just no dynamic camber gain and you have to run big camber on a heavier car to do track work. But honestly, it's a Corolla :pokerface:

Crazy to think golden era hondas came with double wishbone front and rear as standard.

Add LSD and some camber plates and you can adjust for any track.

[is350]

https://old.reddit.com/r/Justrolledintotheshop/comments/1nfb47k/a_collegue_of_mine_broke_a_rotor_of_a_2025/

[dark0821]

thats the beauty of miata... even the NA miata is double wishbone front amd rear

[EvoFire]

https://old.reddit.com/r/Justrolledintotheshop/comments/1nfb47k/a_collegue_of_mine_broke_a_rotor_of_a_2025/

CCB issues. And it looks like the guy dropped his car off the jack. If you street drive only the brakes pretty much last the life of the car.

thats the beauty of miata... even the NA miata is double wishbone front amd rear

They are still double wishbone. Part of the reason why the first Mazda6 was so underrated is because it has double wishbone front. That's what makes the wagon so amazing, comes in stick with the 3.0 V6, with double wishbone.

[Badhobz]

https://www.richmond-news.com/local-news/free-catalytic-converter-etching-in-richmond-bc-this-week-september-20-11209359

Free cat etching in richmond sep 20

Richmond RCMP and community policing volunteers will be at Canadian Tire Ironwood on Sept. 20 from 10 a.m. to 2 p.m., where the public can attend on a first-come, first-served basis without the need to book an appointment.

[trollface]

Your serial number:

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/61JlPrI0IQL.jpg

[Badhobz]

https://www.motortrend.com/news/toyota-blanks-out-over-590000-owners-with-dashboard-display-recall

Toyota Recalling Some 591,000 Vehicles To Fix Digital Display Issue

more signs that toyota is just trash nowadays.

[bcrdukes]

Who makes their digital dashes? Aisin or Denso? I don't think Toyota themselves manufacture their own dashes...or do they? :suspicious:

Blame it on Toyota! (But I will still buy one.) :D

[Badhobz]

not sure who the suppliers are, but thats why all modern day cars are just sad... dash failing is pathetic

[noclue]

Random window-shopping on autotrader.
1. $60K discount on the new maserati granturismo, but cant unsee the chrysler buttons and UI
2. New C8 corvettes with Z51 packages discounted under $100k... hype is over
3. The lotus emira depreciating nicely... supercharged toyota V6 seem decent
4. No new cars seem to excite me anymore :(

[68style]

* I feel the same when I look at new cars some feature might excite me but whether it be the whole package or the price or imagining the ownership experience or the actual driving dynamics… it’s always something else makes me go bleh neeeeeext…

Probably just old and jaded :)

[AstulzerRZD]

I really dislike the Ghibli/Quattro porte because it feels like I’m sitting in a Challenger but worse.

That said the Granturismo feels really nice when sitting in it.
I really like the digital clock & how nice the screens are.
Doesn’t really remind me of Grand Cherokee/Wagoneer.

Are Ferrari Roma/Portofino available below list in Canada?
They are in US so the Granturismo doesn’t sell bwcause they’re within 10% cost of each other.

[AstulzerRZD]

Midnight Purple II is Japanese for Nero Cometa Fuoriserie

https://i.imgur.com/YJ6Sw1p.jpeg

[noclue]

$19K for paint... $0 to resale value

[underscore]

* I feel the same when I look at new cars some feature might excite me but whether it be the whole package or the price or imagining the ownership experience or the actual driving dynamics… it’s always something else makes me go bleh neeeeeext…

Probably just old and jaded :)

I also assume all new vehicles will have some sort of tech "feature" that I'll find annoying but can't disable. But I don't even like dealing with Bluetooth lol. All my vehicles still have headphone cables for the music input.

[Traum]

$19K for paint... $0 to resale value
And Porsche says -- hold my beer~

Paint to Sample Plus is a $35k option on the 911 LOL~

Meanwhile, the regular Paint to Sample is only a $16k option!

[donk.]

Your serial number:

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/61JlPrI0IQL.jpg

This is how you make a "do not copy" key, into a "do copy" key

[trollface]

Go into any Asian place. They will happily make you any key or clone any fob to your parkade.

I get free parking from a ton of places with this trick.

Have a sack of fobs in my glove box. I'll use your vistor spots, use your pool, use your sauna and piss in your elevators.

[EvoFire]

And Porsche says -- hold my beer~

Paint to Sample Plus is a $35k option on the 911 LOL~

Meanwhile, the regular Paint to Sample is only a $16k option!

I thought it was only 12k :badpokerface: I'm behind the times. BMW individual is still only 6k for an existing colour, 12k for one that's new or very special.

[bcrdukes]

Didn't you just place an order for a 992? :suspicious:

[68style]

White-Blue is the most expensive colour out there

[EvoFire]

Didn't you just place an order for a 992? :suspicious:

I have a 992 already.

https://scontent.fcxh3-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/524712162_10161227648647032_1594063060632409265_n. jpg?_nc_cat=106&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=f727a1&_nc_ohc=fdSFgZ4D5xgQ7kNvwEcyTrK&_nc_oc=AdmfLBOSf20gc-j-prjRWLODRlzk3SHnsaUpdJz29v1D4SBHKExRnzZv3TBGhpXCbU Cf8kTktprux4lhKnx4q6Os&_nc_zt=23&_nc_ht=scontent.fcxh3-1.fna&_nc_gid=KNYycsGN9TYI5I6nb6TGMQ&oh=00_AfabCOf7cZgPseZWLRjVUq-qNiYnNATUrUCdrguX0ZPfVw&oe=68D0B35B

[bcrdukes]

What colour is that? :suspicious:

[EvoFire]

Maisto black

[bcrdukes]

I see Viper Green. :suspicious:

[Badhobz]

its obviously white you cunts, stop trying to trick me.

[Scotsman]

And Porsche says -- hold my beer~

Paint to Sample Plus is a $35k option on the 911 LOL~

Meanwhile, the regular Paint to Sample is only a $16k option!

Ford hasn't announced the price but they are offering "Exclusive Extended Color Palette Lock-Out" option for the Mustang GTD.

https://www.motor1.com/news/726165/ford-mustang-gtd-color-lock-out/

So you will be the only factory GTD of that color. Wait for others to copy this idea!

Great idea as rich people will pay for exclusivity.

[radeonboy]

Can anyone here familiar with Taiwanese car culture explain why there's a healthy appetite for wagons there? I was surprised by how many I saw this week from G21s to Octavias and Levorgs.

Thought most would gravitate towards SUVs like in other markets.

[Manic!]

Guy buys a new GT3RS plus a manthey racing kit that costs 170K. Sells/flips the car before the kit arrives. I wonder if he had to buy the kit to get an allocation.

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1138949631632535

[mikemhg]

"My lost is your gain"

Chinese for sure.

[jing]

Saw a black 992 3RS with MR kit in Richmond the other day. Had to do a double take when I saw the prominent MR logo on the huge wing. Extra downforce for zooming down Granville.

[RabidRat]

"My lost is your gain"

Chinese for sure.

You a wacist!

[trollface]

I would MR everything if i was rich

[bcedhk]

How do you pronounce manthey?

The mike tyson way or is it literally man they?

[EvoFire]

Man tai racing

[Badhobz]

It’s pronounced ugly-piece-of-shit … can’t imagine you can make that hideous beetle uglier but these clowns have done it.

[68style]

Does v-postal code have a mantai wang?

[is350]

why mustangs never fail to impress the crowds?

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/HimLvfIowuI

[noclue]

Why is it trendy to butcher beetles with hideous and expensive body kits? You got this manthey crap and the japanese guy that chops up 993 beetles

[Manic!]

Why is it trendy to butcher beetles with hideous and expensive body kits? You got this manthey crap and the japanese guy that chops up 993 beetles

Manthey is an official Porsche partner. You can buy there parts at Porsche dealerships.

https://dealer.porsche.com/ca/langley/en-CA/Manthey-Performance-Kit

This kit is part of the Porsche Tequipment Performance Parts, so approval for road use and warranty coverage remain unaffected. The new Manthey Performance Kit heightens the exclusivity and track capabilities of your Porsche.


https://newsroom.porsche.com/en/2021/motorsports/porsche-motorsport-team-partner-manthey-racing-25-years-anniversary-24020.html

[donk.]

Guy buys a new GT3RS plus a manthey racing kit that costs 170K. Sells/flips the car before the kit arrives. I wonder if he had to buy the kit to get an allocation.

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1138949631632535

That is absolutely retarded.

170k for shocks, wheels, brake lines, some aero covers.

i take that back, thats full retard retarded.

[EvoFire]

Why is it trendy to butcher beetles with hideous and expensive body kits? You got this manthey crap and the japanese guy that chops up 993 beetles

The Manthey stuff is actually functional, unlike the RWC shit where he free hands a fender.

[trollface]

It’s actually not that crazy. Look up how much a set of carbon wheels on the mustang darkhorse costs.

It’s 10k usd. The kids at Aberdeen have 2500 dollar battle aero wings and 4k TE37 on their frs 12k frs.

MT is legit race aero.

[Badhobz]

Yeah so what ? The stock wheels on my stupid ratrolla from the factory is like 3k per wheel. Doesn’t make it right or “worth it”

Plus it still looks like shit. Legit aero my ass, like you need aero for around here ? The stock gt3RS already has huge aero, you show me where this kit improves lap times vs stock. Especially since you’re paying for basically another beetle worth of money to make it somehow worse.

[underscore]

The Manthey stuff is actually functional, unlike the RWC shit where he free hands a fender.

It can technically function, but it's not going to do anything at road speeds and the people buying these things aren't taking them to a track.

[trollface]

I mean, the same can be said for any mod...

Who needs a wing, who needs light wheels, who needs BBK, who needs a splitter, who needs brakes with more "bite"? How many ppl on this forum are running laps in VIMC?

4k in wheel on a 15k car is much more regarded than 15k wheels on a 250k car.

It's no different, just happens to be for rich ppl.

[trollface]

.

[Manic!]

According to the sales guy at the new Porsche dealership in town it's an investment.

[EvoFire]

According to the sales guy at the new Porsche dealership in town it's an investment.

The Manthey stuff or a Porsche? The Manthey stuff no, 100% no, it's just another mod where you don't get your money back. If it's the car, it's also going to be a no. We haven't seen the bottom of the Porsche market yet. Unless you have a very desirable car, like a 992.2 GT3 Touring in PTS with backseats, you aren't likely to be making money on the car.

I went to look at a 992.1 Carerra T recently and it was sold as an asset that doesn't depreciate, and I wouldn't be surprised if the sales training is for them to sell it as an investment. The Carerra T is cool in stick, but it's not a collectible with the base engine imo. With the way taxes are, there's just no way you can make up 40k of taxes.

[noclue]

The Manthey stuff or a Porsche? The Manthey stuff no, 100% no, it's just another mod where you don't get your money back. If it's the car, it's also going to be a no. We haven't seen the bottom of the Porsche market yet. Unless you have a very desirable car, like a 992.2 GT3 Touring in PTS with backseats, you aren't likely to be making money on the car.

I went to look at a 992.1 Carerra T recently and it was sold as an asset that doesn't depreciate, and I wouldn't be surprised if the sales training is for them to sell it as an investment. The Carerra T is cool in stick, but it's not a collectible with the base engine imo. With the way taxes are, there's just no way you can make up 40k of taxes.

Best part is people buying 718 cayman/boxster thinking it was the last of the ICE but porsche just rugpulled saying ICE will return in the next-gen.

[EvoFire]

Best part is people buying 718 cayman/boxster thinking it was the last of the ICE but porsche just rugpulled saying ICE will return in the next-gen.

My premise to buy my M3 was that it was gonna be the last stick. Then the G80 happened :alone:

Well at least mine doesn't look like a beaver :alonehappy:

[noclue]

My premise to buy my M3 was that it was gonna be the last stick. Then the G80 happened :alone:

Well at least mine doesn't look like a beaver :alonehappy:

I had the same thought when I bought my G82 M4 manual. Except I'm a pig nose connoisseur

https://media.tenor.com/8jOB9PYUA0IAAAAM/theabbie.gif

[Badhobz]

pig nose is still better than this NEUSS KLAUSS design shit... i cant believe its getting even uglier.

[underscore]

I mean, the same can be said for any mod...

Who needs a wing, who needs light wheels, who needs BBK, who needs a splitter, who needs brakes with more "bite"? How many ppl on this forum are running laps in VIMC?

4k in wheel on a 15k car is much more regarded than 15k wheels on a 250k car.

It's no different, just happens to be for rich ppl.

In both cases there's nothing wrong with doing it cause you think it looks cool. Just be honest about why and spare everyone the BS about how it's "functional"

[Klondike]

My premise to buy my M3 was that it was gonna be the last stick. Then the G80 happened :alone:

Well at least mine doesn't look like a beaver :alonehappy:

Dodge pulled the ol' switcheroo with the last call hellcats and the 392 Wranglers, only to bring it back

[trollface]

In both cases there's nothing wrong with doing it cause you think it looks cool. Just be honest about why and spare everyone the BS about how it's "functional"

That's what makes it cool, though; they 100% race parts. Everyone was asking why it's so expensive, that's why.

If you want to drive an actual race-car on the street, this is pretty damn close to the top.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTZEEw0525U

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZKJ5orJ-ik

[donk.]

I go by underscore now: i also have a car with a large coolant leak:

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/54801313058_c5ca84e081_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2ruB489)

Picked this up thanks to GS8, something i would normally never even search, buuuuuuuuuut, it has 12,300kms and the price was cheaper than 1 week in mexico.

The catch? Just like underscore, my entire driveway and street is green in color lol.

Il post some more pics later, if your lucky il bring it out to the meat on 25th

[RabidRat]

Were we just going to ignore your garage progress?! It's looking good!

The flooring on the ceiling is tripping me up a little though haha

[donk.]

Were we just going to ignore your garage progress?! It's looking good!

The flooring on the ceiling is tripping me up a little though haha

I dumped an entire post into it, hit the (spoiler)

https://www.revscene.net/forums/717205-what-did-you-do-your-house-today-19.html

[Manic!]

The Manthey stuff or a Porsche? The Manthey stuff no, 100% no, it's just another mod where you don't get your money back. If it's the car, it's also going to be a no. We haven't seen the bottom of the Porsche market yet. Unless you have a very desirable car, like a 992.2 GT3 Touring in PTS with backseats, you aren't likely to be making money on the car.

I went to look at a 992.1 Carerra T recently and it was sold as an asset that doesn't depreciate, and I wouldn't be surprised if the sales training is for them to sell it as an investment. The Carerra T is cool in stick, but it's not a collectible with the base engine imo. With the way taxes are, there's just no way you can make up 40k of taxes.


I think it was in just general. He talked about buying one of the cars they already had in stock then being put on the list to get one of the more special ones.

[red kryptonite]

hahaha why is this in the no one gives a shit thread and not the latest pic?!
the oldsmobile really matches the vibe of that garage.

[68style]

hahaha why is this in the no one gives a shit thread and not the latest pic?!
the oldsmobile really matches the vibe of that garage.

Did you mean garage or garbage?

[red kryptonite]

shots fired :gun:

[Manic!]

Who the fck is paying a half a million for a 2024 Nisan GTR.

https://www.facebook.com/share/1JpH2qTmph/

[RabidRat]

hahaha why is this in the no one gives a shit thread and not the latest pic?!
the oldsmobile really matches the vibe of that garage.

Ya it looks very period correct haha!

In elementary school I had a friend whose house looked like that. Wood paneling across the walls and ceiling.

It's like a throwback retro-nouveau kinda theme, I dig it :D

[Manic!]

The BYD yangwang u9 just went 496.22 km/h (308.33 mph) setting a new production car record. It also did a sub 7 second lap at the ring. Price 236K USD. Game over.

[dark0821]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LkVJCU14x0

lololol be like throttle house... do a base Carrera T for daily and buy an actual cup car lmao... (I know nothing about these), but I assume it is transmission/engine rebuild every 10,000KM type deal right? lololol Yes, sequential dog box.... my mind is like fuccckk yea... my wallet is probably fuckkkk no.... you dumb piece of shit...

[AstulzerRZD]

The fuel cell is every 5 year
Trans/suspension/engine every 40-60 hours

Running cost is 200-400k every year or so if you actually race it

[Badhobz]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LkVJCU14x0

lololol be like throttle house... do a base Carrera T for daily and buy an actual cup car lmao... (I know nothing about these), but I assume it is transmission/engine rebuild every 10,000KM type deal right? lololol Yes, sequential dog box.... my mind is like fuccckk yea... my wallet is probably fuckkkk no.... you dumb piece of shit...

Over priced trash. All of them. Especially the bitch ass gt3… 100k-200k more than the T for what ?! A lousy 1000rpm more and a hole in the exhaust ? The tone sounds the same.

[bcrdukes]

Cup Cars: Maintenance is generally based on usage hours, not mileage. Some items are replaced based on age intervals.

[AstulzerRZD]

What 781 and 911 models does Porsche Drive have in stock for their rentals in Vancouver?

Assuming PDK only

[Badhobz]

^thats probably the best way to experience the overrated beetle. rent it for a month, get your fix and move on.

[AstulzerRZD]

I've driven 991 Cup and 981 GTS on track only so far.
Don't have much exp with the road cars other than a PDK 997S.

[supafamous]

What 781 and 911 models does Porsche Drive have in stock for their rentals in Vancouver?

Assuming PDK only

It varies season by season but usually they spec out fairly desirable DDs cause they plan on selling them for MSRP a year later. I've had a 992.S with a manual (the only one they said was in the fleet) and a Boxster GTS PDK. I've seen a number of GTS and Targas available as well. No turbos, GT3s, or GT4s though.

Edit: Here's the Vancouver selection: https://www.porschedrive.ca/en-CA/vancouver/subscription

[Badhobz]

wow youre the only guy i know who've done this program. how was it? did you enjoy the experience? was it worth the $$?

[AstulzerRZD]

I'd be doing it for about a week in mid-October

[Badhobz]

https://www.theautopian.com/if-you-own-a-late-model-toyota-rav4-hybrid-check-your-high-voltage-cables-now/

Terrible.

[AstulzerRZD]

This has been true for about 5 years lol

Toyota tried to fix but it didn't help

[supafamous]

wow youre the only guy i know who've done this program. how was it? did you enjoy the experience? was it worth the $$?

Overall it was great - I only did a 1 day (992) and a 3 day (Boxster) rental. Other than gas it's all inclusive and it has fairly generous mileage allowances so you can fit in a nice day trip no problem. It beats renting from 3rd parties which have strict limits on things and who will be ticky tacky on everything. The 718 rate is a bargain IMO - when Hyundais rent for $80-100/day the 718 price is peanuts.

If I had the time I'd definitely grab one for a month and just use all the mileage on a couple road trips. Maybe if they had a carseat that fits in the back of a 911 I could convince the wife that we do it.

[AstulzerRZD]

Overall it was great - I only did a 1 day (992) and a 3 day (Boxster) rental. Other than gas it's all inclusive and it has fairly generous mileage allowances so you can fit in a nice day trip no problem. It beats renting from 3rd parties which have strict limits on things and who will be ticky tacky on everything. The 718 rate is a bargain IMO - when Hyundais rent for $80-100/day the 718 price is peanuts.

If I had the time I'd definitely grab one for a month and just use all the mileage on a couple road trips. Maybe if they had a carseat that fits in the back of a 911 I could convince the wife that we do it.

Did the rates change? I'm seeing this for 781

Rental Period 1-3 Day(s)
KM included: 400km/day
From $350/day

Rental Period 4+ Days
KM included: 400km/day
From $300/day

[RabidRat]

This has been true for about 5 years lol

Toyota tried to fix but it didn't help

Wasn't their fix just to leave out a couple of the cover pieces, in hopes that it could dry out better? Lolol

[Badhobz]

Rat, did you check your wiring underneath your highlander? maybe thats contributing to your poor mileage? (totally making shit up, but i guess it doesnt hurt to check).

[AstulzerRZD]

Wasn't their fix just to leave out a couple of the cover pieces, in hopes that it could dry out better? Lolol

I think they literally added a hole in hopes the salty water would drain out of the connector

[RabidRat]

Rat, did you check your wiring underneath your highlander? maybe thats contributing to your poor mileage? (totally making shit up, but i guess it doesnt hurt to check).

Oh shit.

I was so busy laughing at all these other poor fucks it didn't occur to me that maybe this affects me too.

:fuuuuu:

[supafamous]

Did the rates change? I'm seeing this for 781

Rental Period 1-3 Day(s)
KM included: 400km/day
From $350/day

Rental Period 4+ Days
KM included: 400km/day
From $300/day

Yep, those are the same rates from 3-4 years ago. Same for the 911. I don’t know why they haven’t raised them considering their MSRP price increases.

[Traum]

If the aftermarket can quickly come up with a watertight boot / covering for the plug, I don't understand why Toyota couldn't come up with that sooner once the problem has been discovered.

[VRYALT3R3D]

I've driven 991 Cup and 981 GTS on track only so far.
Don't have much exp with the road cars other than a PDK 997S.

Porsche 991 cup car?

[AstulzerRZD]

Porsche 991 cup car?

Yes

[VRYALT3R3D]

Yes

Sweet. Was it a rental or something? Just a normal HPDE?

[AstulzerRZD]

Rental in Vegas.

It's a bit of a mindfuck to drive - it's dominated by how you use brakes to control and setup for the rear end swinging around. Have to throw almost my whole bodyweight into the brake pedal.

Car does not like turning unless it’s done right so that u can get on the gas fairly aggressively to rotate the rear but also add even more gas to use the rear engine traction to straighten out.

[bcrdukes]

Oh shit.

I was so busy laughing at all these other poor fucks it didn't occur to me that maybe this affects me too.

:fuuuuu:

Maybe a rat chewed it :pokerface:

[RabidRat]

http://trekmovie.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/armin-ds9-publicty.jpg

[Badhobz]

https://www.autoblog.com/news/2026-nissan-sentra-stuns-with-fastback-silhouette-more-standard-features

new sentra. meh.
https://www.autoblog.com/.image/w_750,q_auto:good,c_limit/NzowMDAwMDAwMDAwOTU1MTA4/sentra-13.jpg

[mikemhg]

Yawn.

Generic and boring, what reason outside of leasing or financing rates would anyone buy this crap.

Soon to be rental fleet vehicle.

[AstulzerRZD]

Standard 360 camera huh
That might be enough to sell some

[RabidRat]

What's wrong with you people?! This competes with a Corolla.

Have some reasonable standards!!!

https://www.autoblog.com/.image/w_1920,q_auto:good,c_limit/NzowMDAwMDAwMDAwOTU1MDY0/2026-nissan-sentra-2-5.jpg

https://www.autoblog.com/.image/w_1920,q_auto:good,c_limit/NzowMDAwMDAwMDAwOTU1MDY4/2026-nissan-sentra-3-10.jpg

https://www.autoblog.com/.image/w_1920,q_auto:good,c_limit/NzowMDAwMDAwMDAwOTU1MDc0/2026-nissan-sentra-sl-1-4.jpg

[Traum]

Standard 360 camera huh
That might be enough to sell some
Still won't allow the car to be properly parked -- or having its wheels curbed lol~

[Badhobz]

well i want mine in jewish racing gold and a few blood stains on those white seats.

Who are we kidding here, that CVT will blow up long before im able to get blood on it.

[is350]

https://www.autoblog.com/news/2026-nissan-sentra-stuns-with-fastback-silhouette-more-standard-features

new sentra. meh.
https://www.autoblog.com/.image/w_750,q_auto:good,c_limit/NzowMDAwMDAwMDAwOTU1MTA4/sentra-13.jpg

what the heck is this? side profile is from 10th gen civic, tailights is a direct copyfat of current gen accord... I swear if another maker or model do the LED rear taillight bar again....???

[roastpuff]

Lights are prev gen Corolla too lol

[bcrdukes]

This is far more exciting than a 3-series trash lambo

[is350]

Lights are prev gen Corolla too lol

oh my... and the steering wheel design, instrument cluster and the 12 inch screen look exactly like the kia k4

[underscore]

The seat pattern looks like paper towel lol