[RabidRat]

I kinda like it.



https://images-stag.jazelc.com/uploads/theautopian-m2en/3boxter.jpg

But it's hard to say if I like it better than this front-loaded 3-axle whatever-youcallit:



https://images-stag.jazelc.com/uploads/theautopian-m2en/1explorer_1.jpg

[Badhobz]

Ill tell you what i care about but nobody else cares about.... friggin ESSO gas, petro can gas, save on gas, DOMO and all the other not top tier gasoline.

why would anyone put that in their car when its the same price for top tier gasoline!?

Even if you say its a marketing ploy, why would you risk it when its literally the same price.

[snowball]

That's where all the people with leased Benzs go lol, don't buy a pre-owned lease vehicle.

[Gumby]

Of all the wrapped cars you see on the road, why is it that a vast majority of them are Teslas?

edit: Maybe hehe can help answer this...

[bcrdukes]

DOMO

Jump to the pump!

I don't know why, but I am picturing whitev70r being a regular customer at DOMO. :suspicious:

[BIC_BAWS]

Acura TLX is dead

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a65478718/acura-tlx-sedan-production-discontinued/

[Manic!]

Of all the wrapped cars you see on the road, why is it that a vast majority of them are Teslas?

edit: Maybe hehe can help answer this...

Because only one color is free. Other colors cost between 1 to 2k. The free color changes when ever they feel like it. The colors are also pretty boring.

[Gumby]

Because only one color is free. Other colors cost between 1 to 2k. The free color changes when ever they feel like it. The colors are also pretty boring.
So what you're saying is that a Honda Civic has more interesting colours than a Tesla? :fuckyea:

[snowball]

Acura TLX is dead

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a65478718/acura-tlx-sedan-production-discontinued/

I'm a former Honda fanboy, they have always dropped the ball with Acura, they can't even compare to Lexus and they ain't even that great.

[68style]

Acura is nothing but a RDX selling conduit now.

Nobody is going to miss the TLX either, I thought it actually looked pretty cool lots of presence on the road but the performance and price point were not at all aligned.

[noclue]

I dunno how they fucked up the TL with the TLX. I understand they were trying to replace the TL and the TSX with an all in one sedan but they fucked it up bad. It’s the size of an e-class but has the same legroom as an integra.

RIP goat second gen TL

[Qmx323]

My TL goat is the 4G TL SH-AWD 6MT, such a powerhouse of a sedan.

AWD 6MT with 300+HP??

[Badhobz]

dead brand. just put it out of its misery... same with infiniti.

not even remotely viable products and nobody thinks you have more money than if you bought a nissan or a honda.

[bcrdukes]

How do you embed YouTube videos?

Badhobz - this one is for you!

*Thank you, whitev70r*
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3V0Cn1r8Nc

[Badhobz]

^hahahha YES! i saw the same thing this morning. FUCK YOU BITCH ASS PORSCHE. even at these insane prices you still cant make a profit !?!?!?! retards.

now they are going to cut costs some more to restore profitability. yeah, make an already shotty piece of shit product even worse.

[Traum]

Ill tell you what i care about but nobody else cares about.... friggin ESSO gas, petro can gas, save on gas, DOMO and all the other not top tier gasoline.

why would anyone put that in their car when its the same price for top tier gasoline!?

Even if you say its a marketing ploy, why would you risk it when its literally the same price.
I swear Esso and Petro Can used to be Top Tier gas. At least, I thought they were!
(But right now, they're not.)

Practically all brand name gas stations have their own loyalty program. Once you take the loyalty program into account, Top Tier and value brands like Super Save Gas should practically have no difference in costs between them. In fact, with loyalty programs, I can probably get Top Tier (eg. Shell) gas cheaper than I can with Super Save. So I really don't understand why people bother with value brands.

[Badhobz]

^exactly! i see these idiots fill up their G wagons at super save and im like uhhhh are you retarded? i saw this lambo guy drive his hurcan into domo too.

I wouldnt even fill up that trash for my camry.

[whitev70r]

How do you embed YouTube videos?

Badhobz - this one is for you!

https://youtu.be/V3V0Cn1r8Nc?si=ruhE3m0HGaqQgSsd

Like this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3V0Cn1r8Nc

[bcrdukes]

Like this
Ah, thank you. I used the short URL

[whitev70r]

What the hell is wrong with Youtube? I'm starting to see a link go right to their 'app' and all kinds of tiktok and IG shit is on the front page. Nothing wrong with old Youtube ... I sound like the other thread about car innovation.

[Traum]

^exactly! i see these idiots fill up their G wagons at super save and im like uhhhh are you retarded? i saw this lambo guy drive his hurcan into domo too.

I wouldnt even fill up that trash for my camry.
I bet they are also fueling up with 87 octane gas, right? FailFish

I swear more often than not -- ie. over 1/2 the time -- I see people driving a car that really requires high octane gas, and proceeds straight to the 87 octane gas gun.

And then on days when a gas station runs out of regular, and they sell their high octane gas at regular price, all these Toyotas and regular cars that will not see a lick of benefit from running high octane gas swarm the gas station, wait 10-15 min in line clogging up the street to buy that high octane gas on regular price. :rukidding:

(And then I just drive right pass when my car actually needs high octane gas, bcos I ain't gonna idle the car and waste 15 min waiting in line just to save $5 on my gas bill... )

[whitev70r]

I don't know why, but I am picturing whitev70r being a regular customer at DOMO. :suspicious:

Gas station? What is that...

Honestly, now, I go once a month and get like 1300kms on a 45l tank! For this, I can treat my baby to rocket fuel 94 octane!

[bcrdukes]

Oh, my apologies. I already assumed you moved to Richmond.

[EvoFire]

Of all the wrapped cars you see on the road, why is it that a vast majority of them are Teslas?

edit: Maybe hehe can help answer this...

They are easy to wrap, so in comparison they typically cost a bit less to do. And most Teslas are white because anything other than white costs 2k or more. People would just rather get a cheap wrap done in any colour they want instead.

I don't like wraps because it doesn't give the same depth most of the time, but most ppl don't care or can't tell the difference.

^hahahha YES! i saw the same thing this morning. FUCK YOU BITCH ASS PORSCHE. even at these insane prices you still cant make a profit !?!?!?! retards.

now they are going to cut costs some more to restore profitability. yeah, make an already shotty piece of shit product even worse.

They hiked the prices way too much. Goes for BMW et la as well. You can walk in and order anything now that's not GT for the last 2 years, but I have a hard time with the notion I am paying 220k out the door for a BASE 911, and with the T, very limited options as well.

BMW sales, at least here in Vancouver, seems to be hurting as well, as for the same price I paid for our 2019 X3, we can't even get in a X1 with similar options. That's a huge downgrade.

I swear Esso and Petro Can used to be Top Tier gas. At least, I thought they were!
(But right now, they're not.)

Practically all brand name gas stations have their own loyalty program. Once you take the loyalty program into account, Top Tier and value brands like Super Save Gas should practically have no difference in costs between them. In fact, with loyalty programs, I can probably get Top Tier (eg. Shell) gas cheaper than I can with Super Save. So I really don't understand why people bother with value brands.

Petro Can was top tier, Esso hasn't been for a long time. A lot of time rebranded and then rebranded again so there's actually not that many Essos left anyways.

[Badhobz]

How can they lose their top tier qualification ?! I don’t get it.

[red kryptonite]

https://youtu.be/Tp8INMugpf0?si=QzIE_fD-PQ6p6QJm

What do u have to say about your precious Costco gas??

[Badhobz]

i dun have costco gas around me.. i think only in langley or something. But costco is top tier!!!

[EvoFire]

I'm gonna guess they have to continually renew it and it's probably not cheap, so they decide not to. Or the refinery they are getting their gas from won't renew.

[roastpuff]

Top Tier is a pay to play qualification thing. Honestly all the gas comes from the same source here. As long as it's a major brand it should be fine (excepting finicky tuned cars etc)

[Manic!]

How can they lose their top tier qualification ?! I don’t get it.

Just stop paying.

Becoming a Top Tier certified gasoline retailer doesn't involve a direct fee for certification itself. The program is focused on ensuring fuel quality, and the costs are associated with meeting those standards, not a specific certification fee. Gasoline companies pay an annual fee based on the number of service stations they operate to participate in the program.

[Badhobz]

Top Tier is a pay to play qualification thing. Honestly all the gas comes from the same source here. As long as it's a major brand it should be fine (excepting finicky tuned cars etc)

But don’t they have different additives package ?

[roastpuff]

I doubt that untuned cars will notice the different additive packages.

[Manic!]

But don’t they have different additives package ?

Maybe maybe not.

Shell is top tier gas station and this happened. We where Shell branded back then. I can't remember if Shell was branded top tier back then.


https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/car-owner-sues-shell-for-bad-gas-1.319549

Shell has admitted an additive that was in its gas can damage fuel gauges or pumps in certain cars. The additive seems to affect DaimlerChrysler vehicles more than others. Dorothy Young of Port Alberni, B.C. filed a statement of claim in B.C. Supreme Court.

[Badhobz]

I doubt that untuned cars will notice the different additive packages.

i dont care about the performance aspect, i read that the additives package helps prevent carbon buildup on valves. thats why i say for the same money, why bother with shit gas.

The V power additives in shell is shown to have anti-carbon building properties. Given most of our cars are direct injected now, ill take it. Even toyotas with their D4S system (direct and side injection) still suffer from carbon buildup just less than a similar lousy VW that will need walnut blasting at 80-100,000kms.

[bcrdukes]

I would assume that driving habits may contribute to carbon buildup and perhaps there is a correlation that may suggest additives in top-tier fuels help prevent, or rather, slow down carbon build up. We can assume someone in say Richmond who drives five minutes to the store has barely warmed up their engine, so the rich mixture when driving cold doesn't help the situation. (Not directed at you, Badhobz.)

And then you have bore scoring from Porsches. *yawn*

[Badhobz]

no youre absolutely right. thats exactly why for spy's RX i always try and fill up on top tier gas. Short city runs are the worst at creating carbon deposits. engine never gets hot enough to burn away the deposits.

I took her dads sc430 for the run to norcal a few years ago and afterwards hes like OMG its like a totally different car!! throttle response is fantastic! yeah burnt off all the deposits running that bitch at 70mph for 17h straight.

[RabidRat]

Isn't that called the Italian Tuneup? :D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5C9Ie4BcYew&t=447s

Apparently not that effective for DI engines, and requires sustaining high load for a long duration to get the temperature high enough. I guess that's why it was helpful on a port injected (?) SC430, and to have done the long road trip.

[tegra7]

ITR from Realtime collection hall sells for $204,204USD on bring a trailer.
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/2001-acura-integra-type-r-69/

[roastpuff]

i dont care about the performance aspect, i read that the additives package helps prevent carbon buildup on valves. thats why i say for the same money, why bother with shit gas.

The V power additives in shell is shown to have anti-carbon building properties. Given most of our cars are direct injected now, ill take it. Even toyotas with their D4S system (direct and side injection) still suffer from carbon buildup just less than a similar lousy VW that will need walnut blasting at 80-100,000kms.

Any of the big names (Shell, Chevron, Petro Can, etc) have their own pack of additives which are quite similar (check out Project Farm etc) so I don't think it makes a huge difference which brand you go to unless you're super religious about sticking to one brand. If you go to the tiny places (Super Save, Centex, etc) then yeah probably not as good.

I think carbon buildup is more of a driving habit issue than an additive pack/fuel issue. Most people won't drive their car long enough/hard enough to blow off the carbon fouling.

Anyway what if the truck driver forgets to dump the additive package in anyways lol.

[Badhobz]

i thought these additives are dumped in at the refinery. When they ship the gas on the tankers its already mixed in.

Im just saying, for the same price, why bother with the little shit brands or non top tier gas. its literally the same price. no point in risking it.

[roastpuff]

i thought these additives are dumped in at the refinery. When they ship the gas on the tankers its already mixed in.

Im just saying, for the same price, why bother with the little shit brands or non top tier gas. its literally the same price. no point in risking it.

Nope they're mixed in on the truck at the point of delivery.

What do you mean gas from tankers? That's not how tankers work (or are you meaning the tank trucks?)

75-80% of the gas here comes from 2 sources: Parkland Refinery, or Shell Burmount terminal (via pipeline from AB and out east). That's for every brand. The rest comes from the WA refineries via barge. Each station/brand contracts with whatever broker to have delivery arranged, and the additive pack is dumped in when the tank at the station is filled.

[Badhobz]

yeah those gas tank trucks that fills up individual stations. those already come in pre mixed with addictives right?

[roastpuff]

yeah those gas tank trucks that fills up individual stations. those already come in pre mixed with addictives right?

As far as I know it's done at point of delivery (aka gas station).

Those of you who own gas station (Manic?) can clarify.

[RabidRat]

The smaller gas stations should re-market themselves as Local, Craft, Boutique Fuel Dispensaries: the additive packages are micro-brewed fresh daily, when the owner/operator gets in. His additives were hand-picked from the fish market at 3am when it was freshly hauled into port by the boats. So that you are guaranteed the most delicious performance.

[twitchyzero]

fuel truck drivers in bc wa will tell you they deliver to stations regardless of brand

the additives and also maintenance of the tanks and lines on the station-side may not be insignificant

i still dont understand keeping the option of mid-grade though, when's that last factory vehicle or tune that specified to fill 89? the cost to having that 3rd option that's not diesel must amount to something

[yray]

went for a drive in squampton today

why the fuck are nissan leafs driving down Squamish valley FSR?? Do church people go to there to do baptism or something because people are multiple groups of people are parking on the FSR blocking half the lane

[Badhobz]

I’m more curious why you are taking your ultra reliable ancient Range Rover up a FSR. Do you have a death wish or something ?!?!?

[yray]

I’m more curious why you are taking your ultra reliable ancient Range Rover up a FSR. Do you have a death wish or something ?!?!?

I took the disco, I am still working out on what to sacrifice to the range rover gods to make it reliable.

[supafamous]

The smaller gas stations should re-market themselves as Local, Craft, Boutique Fuel Dispensaries: the additive packages are micro-brewed fresh daily, when the owner/operator gets in. His additives were hand-picked from the fish market at 3am when it was freshly hauled into port by the boats. So that you are guaranteed the most delicious performance.

Pourover gasoline for luxury brands. Run by a German named Dieter and an Italian named Mario. Only full-serve at these stations.

i still dont understand keeping the option of mid-grade though, when's that last factory vehicle or tune that specified to fill 89? the cost to having that 3rd option that's not diesel must amount to something

Is that even common anymore in the big city? All my nearby Shell stations are 87, 91, and 93 - I only saw 89 when I was out in the sticks (on my trip to Calgary this past week). I guess since Shell offers 93 that they can't make room for 89 unlike the other brands.

[bcrdukes]

89 still very common here in the GTA.

[Manic!]

fuel truck drivers in bc wa will tell you they deliver to stations regardless of brand

the additives and also maintenance of the tanks and lines on the station-side may not be insignificant

i still dont understand keeping the option of mid-grade though, when's that last factory vehicle or tune that specified to fill 89? the cost to having that 3rd option that's not diesel must amount to something

Midgrade is just a blend of reg and premium so it does not require a separate tank. A number of people who have cars that require premium put in midgrade.

[bcrdukes]

Just as a reference point, what percent of 89 octane do you guys sell compared to 87 and 91+?

[whitev70r]

89 still available in 604 ... except for Shell. Outside Metro Van, I've seen Shell offer 89.

[noclue]

I can only think of hemi V8 that recommends 89oct even though everyone uses 87oct anyway, wonder who buys it as well

[Manic!]

Just as a reference point, what percent of 89 octane do you guys sell compared to 87 and 91+?

Around 3%. But it's built into the pumps so there is not much extra cost to set it up.

[Badhobz]

manic so are the additives already mixed in when you receive delivery of the fuel, or do you guys have to add it yourself into the pump?

[bcrdukes]

The smaller gas stations should re-market themselves as Local, Craft, Boutique Fuel Dispensaries: the additive packages are micro-brewed fresh daily, when the owner/operator gets in. His additives were hand-picked from the fish market at 3am when it was freshly hauled into port by the boats. So that you are guaranteed the most delicious performance.

I can't remember the name of it, but isn't there a specialty gas station in North Van that plays along the theme of this?

Edit: It used to be called Arcade Gas, but has since been converted to what is now known as Isetta.

[RabidRat]

Ok well they should convert it back. 3rd wave coffee? No. 3rd wave gas.

[Badhobz]

I ran away from work at 11am and i saw this interesting thing on the road... i was like WHAT THE FUCK IS IT!?!?! why is it so glorious!? why does it have a spoiler and massive downforce on a 2 door SUV. WHY IS IT TEAL!?

I had so many questions

https://i.postimg.cc/tRv0wfW8/IMG-5492.jpg

Then 69stylez skooled me and told me its a Suzuki X-90 or successor to their sidekick. WOW! this thing is excellent !!!!

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/59/1996-1997_Suzuki_X-90_coupe_%282009-09-04%29.jpg
https://hips.hearstapps.com/hmg-prod/images/1996-suzuki-x-90-113-1590494946.jpg
https://www.ebaymotorsblog.com/motors/blog/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/Suzuki_X90_interior_driver_side.jpg
https://cloud.leparking.fr/2025/07/13/19/03/suzuki-x-90-suzuki-x-90-for-sale-black_9386142954.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/i14TVl.jpg

[EvoFire]

Suzuki X90. Two seater two door of the Vitara? Ultimate hairdresser's car :hotbaby: it's got the Miata and the Z3/4 beat.

[RabidRat]

https://hips.hearstapps.com/hmg-prod/images/1996-suzuki-x-90-113-1590494946.jpg

This guy looks really serious, which only makes it more awesome. :lol

[Manic!]

manic so are the additives already mixed in when you receive delivery of the fuel, or do you guys have to add it yourself into the pump?

We don't add anything. I believe they are added when the truck picks up the fuel from the fuel terminal. We get deliveries at various times including the middle of the night. It would suck to have to get up in the middle of the night to add additives.

[Badhobz]

Dats what I thought. I’ve never seen them do anything besides stick a hose down the ground and pump fuel. I’m sure adding the secret “stuff” is done by some higher up shmoe who has a degree in mixology

[roastpuff]

My car only takes craft mixed gasoline, shaken not stirred.

[Manic!]

Faraday Future the EV car company that has sold a total of 20 cars has a new vehicle coming out. It's a PHEV called the the FX Super One. It's a Chinese luxury van made my great wall motors called the Wey Alpine 9 that will be disassembled, sent to America and then reassembled. The US version will have something different than the Chinese version. It will have an AI screen on the front of the car. Just what everyone wants.

https://www.motortrend.com/files/6879d29670d6aa000296c418/faraday-future-super-one-funny-face.jpg


https://smartcdn.gprod.postmedia.digital/driving/wp-content/uploads/2025/07/fx-super-one-side-1-1-default-e1753210291958.jpg?quality=90&strip=all&w=1536&h=864&type=webp&sig=bzqaCW0N7btcTC6_ulY0ng

https://www.motortrend.com/files/68797197fa06e90002dfc7ea/faraday-future-fx-super-one-second-third-row-passengers.jpg

LOL.

https://www.motortrend.com/files/6879723c2f07b000028392eb/020-2026-faraday-future-super-one.jpg

[Badhobz]

TAKE MY FUCKING MONEY NAO MAO !!!!! totally gonna hack it and put porn on the front.

[Eff-1]

We don't add anything. I believe they are added when the truck picks up the fuel from the fuel terminal. We get deliveries at various times including the middle of the night. It would suck to have to get up in the middle of the night to add additives.

yeah not the gas station owner, but what about the truck driver? could he possibly be the one adding it at the time of delivery?

i.e. that would mean one driver delivers the same raw product to 3 different brands of gas station, but he adds some special stuff depending on the brand's recipe?

[Manic!]

yeah not the gas station owner, but what about the truck driver? could he possibly be the one adding it at the time of delivery?

i.e. that would mean one driver delivers the same raw product to 3 different brands of gas station, but he adds some special stuff depending on the brand's recipe?

I have never seen the drivers add anything. The tankers have multiple compartments. So they can carry different types of fuel. Next time I see a driver I will ask them when the additives are added.

[trollface]

This one time a truck driver added too much Techron to the Shell 93 and my Golf reved to 9k and got Vtech for a full tank.

[Qmx323]

I ran away from work at 11am and i saw this interesting thing on the road... i was like WHAT THE FUCK IS IT!?!?! why is it so glorious!? why does it have a spoiler and massive downforce on a 2 door SUV. WHY IS IT TEAL!?

I had so many questions

https://i.postimg.cc/tRv0wfW8/IMG-5492.jpg

Then 69stylez skooled me and told me its a Suzuki X-90 or successor to their sidekick. WOW! this thing is excellent !!!!

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/59/1996-1997_Suzuki_X-90_coupe_%282009-09-04%29.jpg
https://hips.hearstapps.com/hmg-prod/images/1996-suzuki-x-90-113-1590494946.jpg
https://www.ebaymotorsblog.com/motors/blog/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/Suzuki_X90_interior_driver_side.jpg
https://cloud.leparking.fr/2025/07/13/19/03/suzuki-x-90-suzuki-x-90-for-sale-black_9386142954.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/i14TVl.jpg

Here (https://vancouver.craigslist.org/van/cto/d/vancouver-1996-suzuki-90-4x4/7869684885.html) - you can get one for yourself as a cheap Murano vert replacement

[roastpuff]

Why does MB have THREE (3) cabin air filters on this ML350?

Why?

[Badhobz]

does it also have a MB "scent" canister so you can refill the smugness?

[roastpuff]

It’s not new enough for that, in this gen that smug smell was S class only.

It does have that mid-2010s German crayon plastic smell though.

[RabidRat]

that mid-2010s German crayon plastic smell though.

Oh damn I know exactly the smell you're talking about. Why is it that?!

[yray]

anyone noticing that more people are making right turns from big streets into smaller street from the flowing portion of the right lane instead of pulling over on the the parking portion of the lane

I thought the icbc book said to occupy into the parking portion so you can block out bikes on coming up from behind

[RabidRat]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWhNI_x9W6c

[!LittleDragon]

Those with long vehicles, which entrance do you use to get into the Pacific Center parkade? I went down the Howe/Dunsmuir entrance recently and I thought I was either going to scrape the front bumper along the wall or curb my rear wheel when the ramp curves left to the ticket dispensers... lol...

Is the Robson entrance any better? Howe/Georgia?

[radeonboy]

Maybe give the Howe / West Pender lot a shot.

[EvoFire]

Those with long vehicles, which entrance do you use to get into the Pacific Center parkade? I went down the Howe/Dunsmuir entrance recently and I thought I was either going to scrape the front bumper along the wall or curb my rear wheel when the ramp curves left to the ticket dispensers... lol...

Is the Robson entrance any better? Howe/Georgia?

How long? I've gotten in with the X5 while it's tight I didn't feel like I was going to scrape walls. My bigger concern is when I get in and out with the M3, the curbs are so tall I would curb the wheels and bumpers if I'm not careful.

[!LittleDragon]

It's a 2020 G90, 124.4" wheelbase... lol the car isn't parking lot friendly

[yray]

keep going straight and you can wrap into the robson entrance which is slightly bigger i think

[!LittleDragon]

Thanks, I'll keep those entrances in mind the next time I need to go there... lol I've had the car 4 years and that was the first time I went into the PC parkade. I've gotten it into and out of Crystal Mall, figured PC couldn't be worse than that... it's not on the inside but the entrances are shit... but once I got inside, I notice all these trucks in there and wondered how they got in there without curbing/hopping the rear wheel on the curb. Now I know why 4 wheel steering is a thing... lol

[RabidRat]

They need to add 4 wheel steering to Costco shopping carts. Dodging around people is too difficult.

[EvoFire]

Oh yeah the G90 is huge. Crystal mall is actually not that tight, the problem is the people who frequent it.

[red kryptonite]

i havent seen a single g90 in town yet. but when i dropped off the x5 at the dealership i got to poke around and sit in the g99 in the showroom. i hate that i like it.

[EvoFire]

i havent seen a single g90 in town yet. but when i dropped off the x5 at the dealership i got to poke around and sit in the g99 in the showroom. i hate that i like it.

I think he's talking about Genesis G90, not BMW :lol

[red kryptonite]

oh... i guess no new transfer case for him then.....

gang gang :h5:

[coneZONE]

anyone noticing that more people are making right turns from big streets into smaller street from the flowing portion of the right lane instead of pulling over on the the parking portion of the lane

I thought the icbc book said to occupy into the parking portion so you can block out bikes on coming up from behind

heck, people turn right from anywhere but the right

[dark0821]

Hey RS,

Who has lugnuts for sale?

M14 X 1.5 (i know, weird size aiiiii)

I was putting on new shoes for le car, and 2 out of the 20 lugs nuts are stripping, cant even torque to spec lolol

Otherwise Amazon will be the answer~~

Thanks lololol

Duplicae pic for attention~~

https://i.imgur.com/R4weXlc.jpeg

[bcrdukes]

I have to ask but which wheels are these and how/why are your lug nuts stripping? Do you even have the correct size and length? :confused:

[EvoFire]

I have to ask but which wheels are these and how/why are your lug nuts stripping? Do you even have the correct size and length? :confused:

He's obviously the wrong size and length :lawl:

[trollface]

Also, aftermarket wheels often have cone/ball seat etc.

Don't but random 1.5 nuts. You gotta get the right seat.

[bcrdukes]

He's obviously the wrong size and length :lawl:

I hope he knows that! :drunk:

[dark0821]

the lug nuts came with the wheels...

The lugs been abused since 2019, and they are the unbranded China aluminum ones (soft af)

All of them are kinda stripped, but at least still torques to correct specs except for 2.....those 2 will rotate on the torque wrench... and I am kinda scared to even try now cuz I dont want them to be stuck and cant take off my wheels

They are Konig Flow Formed AMPLIFORM 19 X 8.5

[bcrdukes]

How are you abusing the lug nuts? 100% pedal to the metal full torque from a red light all day every day? :confused:

[EvoFire]

the lug nuts came with the wheels...

The lugs been abused since 2019, and they are the unbranded China aluminum ones (soft af)

All of them are kinda stripped, but at least still torques to correct specs except for 2.....those 2 will rotate on the torque wrench... and I am kinda scared to even try now cuz I dont want them to be stuck and cant take off my wheels

They are Konig Flow Formed AMPLIFORM 19 X 8.5

You can't use an impact on aluminum lugs. You have to hand thread them, use a ratchet and then torque wrench.

[Manic!]

Talked o the guy delivering gas today. Additives are added at the fuel terminal when the fuel is being loaded into the tanker automatically.

[dark0821]

How are you abusing the lug nuts? 100% pedal to the metal full torque from a red light all day every day? :confused:

100% impact all day ever day, but since I didn't pay, I am not gonna complain loool

[bcrdukes]

RIP dark0821

[AstulzerRZD]

oh... i guess no new transfer case for him then.....

gang gang :h5:

Those use the same Magna transfer case as xDrive
They will need a new t case too 😅

[RabidRat]

Anyone have experience with black Gorilla lug nuts?

Wondering if they're reasonably resistant to rust.

[Badhobz]

Nobody has experience with black gorilla nuts bro….. nobody

[whitev70r]

ICBC just got rid of the 2nd driving test for full driving license. So 1 road exam and then 12 months you automatically get full license if you're record is clean!

[BIC_BAWS]

Anyone have experience with black Gorilla lug nuts?

Wondering if they're reasonably resistant to rust.

Relatively.. not really tho. I don't care enough to swap them out, but they hold up better than OEM BMW black lugs for ref

[SSM_DC5]

ICBC just got rid of the 2nd driving test for full driving license. So 1 road exam and then 12 months you automatically get full license if you're record is clean!

What am I supposed to use for an excuse to drive only 1 friend?

[whitev70r]

apparently, I'm a little late to the game. It was introduced in April this year, implement officially 2026. But as you can imagine, if you only have your N now, why would you bother booking a 2nd road test to get your full driver's license knowing this is coming.

Apparently, cost saving measures and to clear up the backlog for road exams. Also a cost saving measures for See Lais in Richmond, now, they only have to pay off one examiner.

[Badhobz]

good ruck everyone rone erlse

[GS8]

apparently, I'm a little late to the game. It was introduced in April this year, implement officially 2026. But as you can imagine, if you only have your N now, why would you bother booking a 2nd road test to get your full driver's license knowing this is coming.

Apparently, cost saving measures and to clear up the backlog for road exams. Also a cost saving measures for See Lais in Richmond, now, they only have to pay off one examiner.

It's like they always knew that no amount of testing can fix Vancouver driver's so they said 'fuck it'.

Let these rolling land mines kill each other :lol

[mikemhg]

Fuck we already have shit drivers in this city, I wonder how much an effect this will have.

I would assume they'll be handing out more failures for the initial driver exam, one would hope.

[is350]

You can't use an impact on aluminum lugs. You have to hand thread them, use a ratchet and then torque wrench.

1st time hearing about this... does your typical sedan/SUV on the road all use aluminum lugnuts?

every shop you go to any shop (dealers, independents, tire shops, CT), the techs will use air or electric impact to loosen and tighten the lugnuts for efficiency purpose, no one will spend their time using an breaker bar to tighten then use a torque wrench to torque to specs, does that mean the lugnuts will inevitably fail at some point?

[EvoFire]

Most cars will come with steel lugs or bolts, other than some really specialty vehicles (some Lambos come with titanium bolts) they would be all steel. My experience with Toyota, Mazda, Honda, Nissan, BMW, Mercedes have all been steel. My M3 uses steel bolts.

[is350]

Most cars will come with steel lugs or bolts, other than some really specialty vehicles (some Lambos come with titanium bolts) they would be all steel. My experience with Toyota, Mazda, Honda, Nissan, BMW, Mercedes have all been steel. My M3 uses steel bolts.

phew that's good to hear

[Badhobz]

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/xh59e0

^My buddy sent me this clip. I had a good laugh.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDHK4DbLKCc

[BIC_BAWS]

Fuck we already have shit drivers in this city, I wonder how much an effect this will have.

I would assume they'll be handing out more failures for the initial driver exam, one would hope.

Probably zero considering people already drive without licenses, insurance, etc and the cops are too busy to do anything about it / lack of licensing doesn't prevent anyone from purchasing a vehicle.

The kid I sold my E36 to, didn't have a license, had fines for driving with a suspended license, well known to police, and all he had to do was call icbc and beg them to remove the block on vehicle transfer and that he promises to pay the fees.

[Traum]

Please tell me why I'd still want to be a law abiding citizen? FailFish
Probably zero considering people already drive without licenses, insurance, etc and the cops are too busy to do anything about it / lack of licensing doesn't prevent anyone from purchasing a vehicle.

The kid I sold my E36 to, didn't have a license, had fines for driving with a suspended license, well known to police, and all he had to do was call icbc and beg them to remove the block on vehicle transfer and that he promises to pay the fees.

[mikemhg]

Please tell me why I'd still want to be a law abiding citizen? FailFish

I've thought this countless times in my life.

Watching shady dealer friends, or scammy finance bros all fall upwards, meanwhile breaking every societal rule they can with little to no consequence.

At the same time here we are being good salaried participants, paying our taxes and following the rules, yet we'd be the ones punished first if there's ever an opportunity to do so (i.e. making a mistake on your taxes, etc.)

[Traum]

I gotta admit that to be a successful criminal -- or at least, shady a$$ scammer of some sort -- you gotta have the smarts to pull it off. Unfortunately, I don't, esp in the quick thinking department, so that kind of rules out the criminal career path for me... FailFish

The next best thing would have been to marry rich. But damn... I messed that up as well LOL~

[Badhobz]

This is why shit is fucked.

Especially in our society (Channeling my inner Hondaracer here) where the criminal laws are so lax. Stealing sea cucumber is more punishable than sawing a dudes head off and eating his face.

[CivicBlues]

Just gotta be diagnosed as mentally ill or autistic. Free pass to do anything in Costco or our society in general.

[Badhobz]

well thats easy enough for me. you guys all know how retarded i am, so if i go on a murder spree in costco parking lot you guys all tell'em im insane okay? okay? guys???

[RabidRat]

well thats easy enough for me. you guys all know how retarded i am, so if i go on a murder spree in costco parking lot you guys all tell'em im insane okay? okay? guys???

This is pretty self-explanatory. You don't even need to hire a lawyer, just print this out and bring it to court with you :D

https://i.postimg.cc/YSC2C8qY/1123.jpg

[is350]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NKp1eLcQSc&ab_channel=CBCNewsNovaScotia

[headhunt3r]

In the spirit of this thread's title, probably nobody will care, but there's word floating around that Aquapel is done with Canada. I'm probably going to stock up...

[SSM_DC5]

Do those things have a shelf life? I have a handful sitting around for years that I haven't opened.

[bcrdukes]

Do those things have a shelf life? I have a handful sitting around for years that I haven't opened.

Apparently, they do. I believe if you check the applicator itself, there should be an "expiry" date, or something equivalent.

Having said that, like yourself, I had some sitting around for a few years and it was way past the expiry date. I used it anyway and it worked. :D

[whitev70r]

What is Aquapel?

[trollface]

Like Rainx

[BIC_BAWS]

Apparently, they do. I believe if you check the applicator itself, there should be an "expiry" date, or something equivalent.

Having said that, like yourself, I had some sitting around for a few years and it was way past the expiry date. I used it anyway and it worked. :D

Speaking of Aquapel.. I found a box of 4 applicators.. from 2014.. no chance it still works HAHA

In the spirit of this thread's title, probably nobody will care, but there's word floating around that Aquapel is done with Canada. I'm probably going to stock up...

Glaco from Japan is better

[bcrdukes]

"You miss 100% of the shots you don't take." - Wayne Gretzky

[68style]

But you don’t take so many shots

[Badhobz]

"You miss 100% of the shots you don't take." - Wayne Gretzky

or if you messed up and anal'd her by accident - badhobz

[is350]

after you apply aquapel, does your windshield fog up regularly?

I have applied seal and shine to windshield before, rain just slides off, barely even needed to use wipers but the problem is the foggy windshield, never applied anything to windshield after that

[headhunt3r]

No fog issues. Not sure if it matters but I have ceramic tint on the windshield too for heat rejection. Aquapel instructions was to buff it clear after wiping excess, but then the y changed instructions to just let the haze go away by itself. I tried this and it made application so much easier.

I've heard about Glaco. How is it better? Durability? Ease of application?

[Traum]

after you apply aquapel, does your windshield fog up regularly?

I have applied seal and shine to windshield before, rain just slides off, barely even needed to use wipers but the problem is the foggy windshield, never applied anything to windshield after that
Aren't we supposed to buff the windshield a bit after applying Aquapel / RainX? I seem to recall that the windshield would have a tendency to haze up (not fog up) if you don't.

[underscore]

The one time I tried RainX the instructions said to run the wipers on high for a bit after. I assume that was a noob friendly buffing method.

[bcrdukes]

Aren't we supposed to buff the windshield a bit after applying Aquapel

Yes.

How Aquapel Works (http://www.aquapel.com/how-Aquapel-works.php)

[headhunt3r]

Here's the updated instructions that state no buffing required. Tried it and it worked great. Made application a breeze.

https://youtu.be/3HpWNJXc_E8

Take the leap of faith. It works!

[trollface]

Do you guys not own windshield wipers or something

[Badhobz]

You nitpick everything, facetroll. im sure you're a real blast at parties.

[trollface]

I dont get invited

[Traum]

Do you guys not own windshield wipers or something
But having a freshly RainX-ed / aquapelled windshield in the rain is just so much fun~! EleGiggle

(and honestly, I'd say it works waaaay better than windshield wipers)

[RabidRat]

How long does it tend to last per application?

[headhunt3r]

I'd say a solid 6 months. I use wipers still, but wipers with treated windows is still better visibility than no treatment. My eyes are getting old.

[68style]

I dont get invited

We invite you all the time, no show

[Badhobz]

https://www.theautopian.com/here-are-the-insane-care-requirements-for-the-battery-in-the-new-porsche-911-carrera-gts-t-hybrid/

Omg look at all this gay ass requirements to prep your bullshit beetle if you don’t drive it for 2 weeks. Typical German trash… overly complicated for nothing.

https://images-stag.jazelc.com/uploads/theautopian-m2en/287823_6000x4004-1536x864.jpg

This is the ugliest thing Alive. Looks like hannible lecter or brace face.

https://static1.colliderimages.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/the-silence-of-the-lambs.jpg

[supafamous]

The solution, of course, is to drive the car regularly so if one of you guys need your GTS to be taken care of I volunteer, at no charge, to keep your GTS operable. I'll even come to your house to pick it up and I will park it inside.

Also, while the warnings are silly (they probably should have added a charge port for this stuff) this is kinda like complaining that your girlfriend, Anas de Armas, can't cook so therefore you're breaking up with her.

[Badhobz]

WHAT SHE CANT COOK!!?!!? She fucking Cuban! She better know how to make a sandwich.

[underscore]

No big deal, you just need to have a climate controlled garage with a dyno and exhaust ducting so you can run it enough without having to take it outside.

[noclue]

Look how they massacred yet another 2000's sport compact car
https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a65627646/acura-rsx-prototype-teased/

[is350]

what did the porsche driver do wrong here?

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Aup_phN0HnI

[Manic!]

what did the porsche driver do wrong here?

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Aup_phN0HnI


His car was just serviced and the tire pressure was set .5 PSI lower than spec.

[Badhobz]

what did the porsche driver do wrong here?

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Aup_phN0HnI

He was driving a beetle. This is the best result anyone could wish for.

[Jason00S2000]

https://x.com/Mappy6984/status/1954354132145394103

[trollface]

His car was just serviced and the tire pressure was set .5 PSI lower than spec.

i dig the refrence

[noclue]

https://youtu.be/zJWVu4i75sg

There is no substitute?

[Badhobz]

Fuck you beetle !!!

My large barge is wayyy uhhh…. Worse on all technicals aspects.

But at least it doesn’t look like a boring piece of shit and I don’t have to wear an ascot to walk around

[Manic!]

Local dealer has 18 Dodge Charger EV's on the lot. 14 parked in a row outside. All in pretty bland colors black, white, grey, red and some really dark green? color. Like 26K off MSRP. Why so many? Who is going to buy these?

https://woodgrovechrysler.com/inventory-page-new?inventoryType=new&make=DODGE&model=CHARGER%20DAYTONA

[Jason00S2000]

https://x.com/pvtjokerus/status/1955249285894942931

[Jason00S2000]

https://x.com/WhatFutility/status/1955276941084299762

[supafamous]

Local dealer has 18 Dodge Charger EV's on the lot. 14 parked in a row outside. All in pretty bland colors black, white, grey, red and some really dark green? color. Like 26K off MSRP. Why so many? Who is going to buy these?

https://woodgrovechrysler.com/inventory-page-new?inventoryType=new&make=DODGE&model=CHARGER%20DAYTONA

At this point someone should just put Stellantis out of its misery. Other than RAM is there anything in their portfolio that's class leading much less competitive? Is there any tech worth selling off to other companies?

The new Charger makes zero sense as a product - it's nothing more than a bunch of bros who want to beat their chest. And it gets stupider with the return of the Hemi. Everything they do right now just reeks of desperation and a denial of reality.

Side note: Did anyone else catch Ford cancelling the Escape and Corsair and replacing it with an EV pickup? That's Ford's second best selling product that is getting axed! I also question their sanity as a company.

[noclue]

Jeep is also the other brand keeping the company afloat, even though their full size wagoneer is a failure and delegated to hertz/avis/enterprise

[AstulzerRZD]

The new Charger makes zero sense as a product - it's nothing more than a bunch of bros who want to beat their chest. And it gets stupider with the return of the Hemi. Everything they do right now just reeks of desperation and a denial of reality.

It's a huge PR issue but financially it's not devastating. Their mixed powertrain platform lets them pivot away from EVs with far less cost than Mercedes would face cancelling EQ. It's also shared with the Wagoneer S and other cars.

The new Charger makes zero sense as a product - it's nothing more than a bunch of bros who want to beat their chest. And it gets stupider with the return of the Hemi. Everything they do right now just reeks of desperation and a denial of reality.

Americans will keep buying big, comfortable, good-sounding cars because long-distance driving is a fact of life. Instead of 45 minutes to Cypress, Seattle > Crystal Mountain is 3 hours, SF to Tahoe is 5.

Side note: Did anyone else catch Ford cancelling the Escape and Corsair and replacing it with an EV pickup? That's Ford's second best selling product that is getting axed! I also question their sanity as a company.

Ford’s modular EV platform (like GM’s which is selling incredibly well) lets them quickly adjust their lineup to match market shifts, especially from Chinese.

Cancelling escape is not an issue because it sells mostly to rental fleets, with real consumer demand going to the Bronco Sport. Escape hybrid/PHEV sales are also weak.

The new EV pickup will be Maverick-sized, a segment with huge demand: Maverick still has waitlists four years in and unlike Bezos-funded attempts, Ford can actually deliver.

full size wagoneer is a failure and delegated to hertz/avis/enterprise

The product is ugly but the range-extended EV powertrain they're launching with the Wagoner is a major win: it's a full product cycle and 3-5 years ahead of GM, Toyota, and Ford.

Jeeps edge here is their engines aren't blowing up like GMs and it's not horribly out of date like the Expedition/Navigator.

[whitev70r]

Watch for the $350/mth lease promo on the Charger.

[Traum]

Watch for the $350/mth lease promo on the Charger.
The Fiat 500e was $35/week, so that was worth it. But $350/month?

Nah~

(though I'm sure lots of people will still flock to that)

[Manic!]

People bitching about rep wheels but ED just put on $2000 rep wheels from China on his Bugatti. People running more expensive wheels on there civics.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xoJpjKOZ664

[red kryptonite]

that color combo is gaudy

[68style]

This guy just figuring out that you’re overpaying for brand and prestige after he already has a Bugatti to his name is as SMH as it gets

[Traum]

that color combo is gaudy
Everything about that car is gaudy -- the car itself, the colour, the wheels, etc.

Everything.

[mikemhg]

Watch for the $350/mth lease promo on the Charger.

I see people comment about some of these crazy lease deals, but do they even exist in Canada, or only the US?

Every time I've seen someone post about some EV on low leases, I check locally and see the dealers charging the same BS prices compared to down south.

[Manic!]

ED and Hoovie bought the worst examples of a Bugatti. Neither can really afford them. Hoovie I believe is already selling his. It's also funny that ed is a trump supporter but is buying wheels from China Instead of buying American made wheels like HRE.

[mikemhg]

I didn't know ED was a Trumper, but not surprising. I've always wondered if Hoovie was as well, being from Kansas and all.

It's funny how Trumpers always fit a certain "architype", you can almost guess them on first glance.

[Manic!]

I didn't know ED was a Trumper, but not surprising. I've always wondered if Hoovie was as well, being from Kansas and all.

It's funny how Trumpers always fit a certain "architype", you can almost guess them on first glance.

He is a big time christian and had 2 video's with guests that he took down because of back lash. One was about it being bidens fault gas prices are up. The whole video was B.S.

Also wrote this letter about being a proud American after trump won.

https://yesimright.com/this-brave-christians-letter-to-america-is-every-trump-haters/

I woke up today proud to be an American.

Not because Trump will be president but because change is possible. We have been given a government where socialism is masqueraded as democratic compassion, where spending involves numbers of zeroes designed to be nonsensical, and where ideas called “Religious Liberty” can be voted down.

America has become a place where your right to life depends on your race, net worth, and whether you have been born yet. It is a place where young people have been taught that the world exists to serve their selfish interests and that we are free to do whatever we wish as long as no one finds it offensive.

We are seeing examples where behavior according to evangelical Christian faith is illegal. Information is consumed not from qualified sources, but from our peers first. With salacious headlines and biased faux-journalism we have forsaken skepticism. What we need is absolute truth in a world where we are constantly told it does not exist.

Corruption in politics, like sin in humanity, should come as no surprise. Among those who make a career of it, it is inevitable. I feign no belief that we have somehow avoided it now but this is a victory in that regard. I am glad to live in a country where ridiculous ideas are quickly quelled by a strong balance of power.

It is not unsafe to live in an America led by Trump. Instead, the collective political intelligence of our nation over the past 240 years has created an environment where vision and enthusiasm can be channeled into productive policy. That, I believe, we can look forward to.

The astonishing irony came in watching the pieces come together last night. The sobering reality that Trump was by no means the hero that conservatives wanted but he may have been the only person who could prevail.

We all knew that at some point we would be presented with the opportunity to vote for Hillary Clinton for President but as this election unfolded, it became clear that Donald Trump was the only opponent she could be confident in her ability to beat. The voter turnout, the grassroots excitement, and the hunger for change led to a democratic circumstance that the embedded political establishment could not control.

Regardless of where you stand ideologically, this is election is a victory. You live in a country designed to make this possible and for those of us who have prayed for it for years, we were starting to believe it wasn’t.

Trump didn’t just win where he was supposed to. To my astonishment he won where he shouldn’t have. The America that has had policy forced down its throat for years and had its foreign stance reduced to pragmatic consumerist fear can now breathe in the possibility of relief.

Donald Trump is no savior. I am proud to say my eternal hope comes in Christ alone but this election has offered hope in what life in America may look like a few years from now. Perhaps Roe v. Wade won’t be reversed, perhaps tax policies won’t be made more fair, perhaps a nation founded under God may never own that idea again.

Regardless, I am proud to be a Christian American and proud of our country that decided change was possible yesterday.

[mikemhg]

Good to know, I've never liked the guy (can't stand the way he speaks) I found he always came off fake and phony, which a lot of these hollow Trumpers essentially are.

Hoovie is still good in my books though, he seems to keep his politics to himself.

[bcrdukes]

Interesting that Hoovie keeps his political views to himself, which I respect. Same along with one of his mechanics, The Car Wizard. I enjoy Car Wizard's segments. Sometimes, I find he's too practical; His infatuation for Toyota and hatred of BMWs annoy me. :D

[Badhobz]

Good to know, I've never liked the guy (can't stand the way he speaks) I found he always came off fake and phony, which a lot of these hollow Trumpers essentially are.

Hoovie is still good in my books though, he seems to keep his politics to himself.

Both are too white. :pokerface:

[AstulzerRZD]

Car Wizard probs swing voter.

Hoovie’s girlfriend has the Republican girl jaw contouring / shitty blending

Freddy also ran a Republican news site and bot network

[EvoFire]

Good to know, I've never liked the guy (can't stand the way he speaks) I found he always came off fake and phony, which a lot of these hollow Trumpers essentially are.

Hoovie is still good in my books though, he seems to keep his politics to himself.

He's a successful car sales man, regardless of belief he's likely going to be fake and phony. His stories seem entertaining enough, if the guests he invites all seem more in the MAGA camp than anything.

[EvoFire]

Car Wizard probs swing voter.

Hoovie’s girlfriend has the Republican girl jaw contouring / shitty blending

Freddy also ran a Republican news site and bot network

Freddy seems more like a do whatever that makes him money type of guy regardless of morals and belief. His belief to me is money above all else, so whatever that makes him more.

[AstulzerRZD]

Freddy seems more like a do whatever that makes him money type of guy regardless of morals and belief. His belief to me is money above all else, so whatever that makes him more.

The whole Freddy/Jared situation is still wild to me. Dude hooked up with the wife of the guy he did the Yugo collab with, which led to divorces all around.

It's the reason Jared wanted out after building the 3000GT, Supra, and SC300 for Tavarish. Yikes.

[mikemhg]

Freddy has bigger tits than my girlfriend.

[Jason00S2000]

https://x.com/JoeBlowGoLowLow/status/1956730857747849316

Porsche 911 matrix LED headlights cost $6,800–$8,800 each to replace (MSRP per unit)

[Badhobz]

^they improved the look.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pXKBkubb64
I love these 2 guys and their roadtrips. THE BEN'S

[donk.]

I need to tell you guys something:

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/54724759282_3fc6fb2991_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2rnQGms)

[EvoFire]

You have a bengal? Or whatever that breed is called

[Traum]

I need to tell you guys something:

New AC unit in the C7 too, huh? PogChamp

[trollface]

Why do you need such a big alternator?

[dark0821]

As if the car wasn't trying to kill you fast enough loooooool~

[!LittleDragon]

Interesting that Hoovie keeps his political views to himself, which I respect. Same along with one of his mechanics, The Car Wizard. I enjoy Car Wizard's segments. Sometimes, I find he's too practical; His infatuation for Toyota and hatred of BMWs annoy me. :D

I always called him The Car Grand Wizard... lol... seems like a nice guy

[yray]

I need to tell you guys something:


nice pussy

[bcrdukes]

Is this a new cabin fan blower motor? :troll:

[68style]

Looks like a penis enlarger

[Manic!]

https://i.ibb.co/vCCNsz0r/speedwagon.jpg

So these guys (strickland motor co)in the US are trying to build and sell a manual wagon. This is the latest update I got from them.


For too long, us car enthusiasts have often been forced to choose.


Performance or practicality.

Driving excitement or family utility.

Weekend thrills or daily reliability.


We refuse to make that choice and we know you do too.


So we’re building the SpeedWagon – the perfect combination of everything you've been waiting for in a modern vehicle:


- A V8 or V6 with a 6-speed manual transmission

- Seating for 5 with generous cargo space in a wagon

- 0-60 in under 4 seconds for track-ready performance with daily-driver comfort

- An analog and simplified driving experience with minimal tech and no big screens


We've drawn inspiration from enthusiast favorites from the 60s through the 90s – timeless designs that still turn heads decades later.

We want the SpeedWagon to be accessible to enthusiasts too. While our initial Champion Edition SpeedWagon represents a bespoke, limited run, our Enthusiast edition is focused on being the alternative to luxury cars that enthusiasts have been looking for.

Champion Edition: Only 50 produced

SpeedWagon R (V8)

Estimated delivery: 2026-2027

Built on a modified BMW E46 chassis

Starting at $150,000


Enthusiast Edition: 800-1000 per year

SpeedWagon (V6) & SpeedWagon R (V8)

Estimated delivery: 2028-2029

Built on a new Strickland chassis

Est. price range: $60,000-$100,000

I'd love to hear what excites you most about the SpeedWagon. Reply to this email to share your thoughts or drop us a note at hello@stricklandmotorco.com anytime.

In our next email, Stone will tell you a bit more about our backgrounds and how everything we’ve done has been building to this.

Until then, enjoy the drive.

Silas Strickland

P.S. - We are in the shop building the prototype RIGHT NOW and could use your support. Click the link below to see ways to help, forward this to other car people or email us back if you want to help in other ways.

[AstulzerRZD]

The E46 version has a shot at being real.
The Enthusiast Edition has 0 shot; they will quickly learn what Lotus learned with the Emira.

1) Even if you reuse a body, skip durability testing, reuse other manufacturers engines, the cheaper 6 cyl is gonna be like 5k cheaper, not 40.
2) Reusing electronics from Bosch means you still have to tune the ESC, airbags, etc. Fixed costs don't vanish.

My estimation is for a 6 year/6k unit run, the R&D & manufacturing cost per car is
6 cyl - B58: 79k + 15% markup for 90k MRSP.
8 cyl - Coyote: 88k + 15% markup for 115k MRSP.

Maybeee they can slash 15k to hit a 75k base price.
No LSD, no radio, front airbags only, single piston brakes, china tires/cast wheel, shit dampers, the worst possible column EPS (hydraulic is more expensive).

Source? I was involved in rear crash structure for a certain Cadillac with a bespoke engine & did some product planning at Nissan for an internship.

My math:

assume
- reuse as much R&D & existing parts as possible
- no warranty
- use powertrain like Coyote crate that already has EPA cert
- no durability/fleet testing

fixed cost:
- crash cert: 18M
- emissions: 7M for two powertrains
- body R&D + tooling: 15M
- suspension r&d: 4M
- ESC, ABS, TC tuning: 3M
- random testing: 2M

per unit cost:
- body manufacturing: 9k
- engine/trans/driveline: 25k for crate american v8, tremec, mechanical LSD
- suspension/steering/brakes/wheels/tires: 13k
- interior/safety: 14k
- electronics/lighting: 12k
- assembly: 10k

Assume 6 year model run and 6000 units, all in cost would be
- B58: 79k
- Coyote: 88k
Add 5k warranty reserve and 15% gross margin.

[teggy604]

or find a Cadillac CTS V wagon, manual.

6.2L V8 supercharged
RWD with LSD

[is350]

imagine getting overtaken by a civic in your gt3 rs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPl60Ho8VV8&ab_channel=MishaCharoudin

[68style]

^they improved the look.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pXKBkubb64
I love these 2 guys and their roadtrips. THE BEN'S

I feel like we’re way more interesting than these wankers, dude spent like 5 minutes crying about driving on the other side screaming like a little girl

[Badhobz]

thats white ben. he's not the best. 1/2 Asian ben is more fun.

But if you ever watch the other ones where they drive the pacific northwest up to alaska, or the RX7 road trip, its pretty good stuff.

[red kryptonite]

I feel like we’re way more interesting than these wankers, dude spent like 5 minutes crying about driving on the other side screaming like a little girl

i feel if that video came out youll wont be able to monetize shit :heckno:
but will be hilarious though.

[AstulzerRZD]

The E46 version has a shot at being real.
The Enthusiast Edition has 0 shot; they will quickly learn what Lotus learned with the Emira.

Maybeee they can slash 15k to hit a 75k base price.
No LSD, no radio, front airbags only, single piston brakes, china tires/cast wheel, shit dampers, the worst possible column EPS (hydraulic is more expensive).

Source? I was involved in rear crash structure for a certain Cadillac with a bespoke engine & did some product planning at Nissan for an internship.

My math:

- crash cert: 18M
- emissions: 7M for two powertrains
- body R&D + tooling: 15M
- suspension r&d: 4M
- ESC, ABS, TC tuning: 3M
- random testing: 2M



https://www.evo.co.uk/tvr/207999/tvr-why-we-think-its-all-over

TVR blew through 53M USD and they had an existing platform!! from Gordon Murray and used existing powertrains.

Maybe my 49M USD estimate on fixed costs was too low WutFace

[!LittleDragon]

TVR stands for TreVoR or TreVcaR... cool cars but I don't think I can ever tell people I drive a Trevor... lol

[68style]

i feel if that video came out youll wont be able to monetize shit :heckno:
but will be hilarious though.

I don’t even think 10% of what Hobz would say could make it past an edit, get cancelled immediately

[Badhobz]

Weak ass bitches !!! Come take your medicine

[bcedhk]

Anyone imported a JDM LHD convertible before? Any tips or places I should start?

Having my mid life crisis and thinking of a convertible to drive around on the weekend while rocking my khakis and new balance 996's.

[Badhobz]

There’s some importers around here. Specialize in jdm stuff but after taxes and duties I don’t think it’s worth it. Especially if it’s a 996 convertible. Those should be cheap as hell

[Gumby]

There’s some importers around here. Specialize in jdm stuff but after taxes and duties I don’t think it’s worth it. Especially if it’s a 996 convertible. Those should be cheap as hell
LOL you see 996 and immediately think Porsche.

He was talking about 996 New Balance shoes! :lol

[bcrdukes]

lol i have the same problem
I see magazines that mention 996, and immediately I think Porsche, but then I realize, oops, they're talking about New Balance shoes. :D

[bcrdukes]

Weak ass bitches !!! Come take your medicine

*guzzle* :awwyeah:

[whitev70r]

There’s some importers around here. Specialize in jdm stuff but after taxes and duties I don’t think it’s worth it. Especially if it’s a 996 convertible. Those should be cheap as hell

Beat me to it, my tip would also be, 'Don't do it'. For your midlife crisis, you deserve least amount of headache as possible. bcedhk, what are you looking for where a jdm import is preferable to finding one here?

[donk.]

Anyone imported a JDM LHD convertible before? Any tips or places I should start?

Having my mid life crisis and thinking of a convertible to drive around on the weekend while rocking my khakis and new balance 996's.

Beforward : self serve site, lots of stock always moving. Would need to find a local paperwork guy, or do it yourself, from what i remember its not worth the 300$ or whatever.

Mark at braveauto : dont know if he is still around, try searching the site, i used him twice, to try and buy an nsx and s2000 years ago, great service, never actually won a car tho (my cheap ass always got outbid)
Full refund for deposit both times.
Full service from japan onto the ship.

Could try looking on pistonheads as well - uk site
Buy a noble m12 POGGERS

Feel free to messg me if you need opinions on stuff

[noclue]

Anyone imported a JDM LHD convertible before? Any tips or places I should start?

Having my mid life crisis and thinking of a convertible to drive around on the weekend while rocking my khakis and new balance 996's.

Just get a LHD Lexus SC430, get your fix and move on bro

[bcrdukes]

Beat me to it, my tip would also be, 'Don't do it'. For your midlife crisis, you deserve least amount of headache as possible. bcedhk, what are you looking for where a jdm import is preferable to finding one here?

Inquiring minds would like to know why on the "Don't do it" part. :considered:

[Badhobz]

cuz if its LHD you can basically get it here. the only JDM LHD cars are bmw's and other euro trash that you can pretty much get here.

It MIGHT be cheaper, but it also might come with HUGE headaches with unknown history, not properly inspected, weird regional mechanical changes that might have specalized parts associated with that shit, etc etc.

Like if you want a JDM z4, why even bother? how about a JDM 997? same shit... its all going to be euro crap and you add convertible to that mix and youre just asking for convertible top failures. When's the last time you saw a z4 around here? or even a 996/997 convertible? or SL/SLK that's 15 years old?

$$$$ down the toilet.

[whitev70r]

Yah, my worry would be the compatibility of parts that are unique to Euro vs. NA. You'd think it is direct interchangeable but I don't think everything is. That would mean importing part = more time in the shop than usual, and finding a good JDM mech. Not worth the extra effort for a mid life crisis. A midlife crisis honestly should be something that has 2 wheels and >600cc.

[Traum]

Anyone imported a JDM LHD convertible before? Any tips or places I should start?

Having my mid life crisis and thinking of a convertible to drive around on the weekend while rocking my khakis and new balance 996's.
Midlife crisis should be wasted on getting into hardcore body building / marathon / high end bicycle riding, AND chasing girls half your age.

Don't waste it on a JDM car.

(If you really insist on doing some JDM stuff, relocate to Japan and start dating Japanese girls!) :fuckyea:

[donk.]

^ the amount of dog on leash content, on this forum lately, is insane

Someone get mikemgh in here

[bcrdukes]

mikemhg rarely posts in this forum! He's an Off-Topic kinda guy!

[Manic!]

Check out https://carfromjapan.com

[underscore]

It MIGHT be cheaper

Everything I've ever looked at importing was cheaper, lower mileage, and in better shape than the LHD ones for sale here, but I haven't looked at Euros. If you search enough you might find one that was an NA or EU car that was imported to Japan privately and avoid any hidden JDM quirks.

[VRYALT3R3D]

Anyone imported a JDM LHD convertible before? Any tips or places I should start?

Having my mid life crisis and thinking of a convertible to drive around on the weekend while rocking my khakis and new balance 996's.

Just use B-Pro.

[bcedhk]

Beforward : self serve site, lots of stock always moving. Would need to find a local paperwork guy, or do it yourself, from what i remember its not worth the 300$ or whatever.

Mark at braveauto : dont know if he is still around, try searching the site, i used him twice, to try and buy an nsx and s2000 years ago, great service, never actually won a car tho (my cheap ass always got outbid)
Full refund for deposit both times.
Full service from japan onto the ship.

Could try looking on pistonheads as well - uk site
Buy a noble m12 POGGERS

Feel free to messg me if you need opinions on stuff

Thanks!

I'm open books right now when it comes to which car, but i think it's mainly either 996s, Cayman, Boxster or SLK? I've been browsing at FB Marketplace from time to time, and I do notice several 996's, Cayman or Audi TT's (almost most TT seem to be RHD) that were brought over from Japan. Hence, I figured maybe I could do it myself to save more money since my partner is fluent in Japanese.

[bcrdukes]

What is the price difference between a local 996/Boxster/SLK compared to the JDM import?

Are you looking for the thrill of importing to scratch the itch + mid-life crisis? Trying to understand the thought process so we don't steer you in the wrong direction.

There's a guy in my MBA cohort who imports JDM Toyotas for his personal use. He's got an older Alphard that he shares with his wife and recently got another JDM Toyota for his daughter, but his purposes are more utilitarian than anything. That, and he drives them to the ground until they don't make sense to be repaired anymore. For him, it was a matter of cost savings as oppoesd to getting a fun car. Let's be real. None of us dream of owning a late-90s Alphard to be cool (unless you are Badhobz.)

[Badhobz]

ITS COOL! FUCK YOU DUKES !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[bcrdukes]

I only name dropped you because you are rich enough to do this for the purposes of trolling. :D

[Badhobz]

Im trying to drive my little spy balloon around like she's a big boss in a TVB drama. They always seem to sit in the 2nd row of alphards...

Ill be the non-descript, non-verbal driver (although ill probably mutter profanities in Cantonese while driving, just to make it authentic)

[bcedhk]

What is the price difference between a local 996/Boxster/SLK compared to the JDM import?

Are you looking for the thrill of importing to scratch the itch + mid-life crisis? Trying to understand the thought process so we don't steer you in the wrong direction.

There's a guy in my MBA cohort who imports JDM Toyotas for his personal use. He's got an older Alphard that he shares with his wife and recently got another JDM Toyota for his daughter, but his purposes are more utilitarian than anything. That, and he drives them to the ground until they don't make sense to be repaired anymore. For him, it was a matter of cost savings as oppoesd to getting a fun car. Let's be real. None of us dream of owning a late-90s Alphard to be cool (unless you are Badhobz.)

I'm no expert, but I've been seeing 996's (2001-2005) ranging in the high 20's to mid 30's. Most are usually 100k+. Ironically, 2 of the 5 i browsed were also imported from Japan.

There's some JDM examples for < 30k with <100k km.
https://www.beforward.jp/porsche/911/by909409/id/12062299/?mfg_year_from=2001

[Badhobz]

seems alright, but dont go nuts in terms of budget... just in case of IMS failures / bore scoring / or / and other German-related fatalities.

[mikemhg]

^ the amount of dog on leash content, on this forum lately, is insane

Someone get mikemgh in here

Why spend money on tinkering a JDM car, parts are disappearing, it's all a money sink.

I keep my cars stock and change them every 3 years.

I agree with Traum, spend your midlife crisis dollars on acquiring STDs from hookers, Cannondale bikes, and air miles :lol

[bcrdukes]

I'm no expert, but I've been seeing 996's (2001-2005) ranging in the high 20's to mid 30's. Most are usually 100k+. Ironically, 2 of the 5 i browsed were also imported from Japan.

There's some JDM examples for < 30k with <100k km.
https://www.beforward.jp/porsche/911/by909409/id/12062299/?mfg_year_from=2001

seems alright, but dont go nuts in terms of budget... just in case of IMS failures / bore scoring / or / and other German-related fatalities.

@bcedhk - Trust that I'm not trying to rain on your parade. What I will share is with best intentions, and ultimately, you will need to make a decision or dive further in your search. This is a very long read, so take your time.

For disclosure, both myself and Badhobz owned a 996. I had an 04 C2 with 50,000KM. I sold it with 62,500KM. I can't remember which model year he owned, but he mentioned that it nearly killed him, so I'll let him speak to that.

My ownership experience was positive. I liked the car a lot as it was very civil. You could drive it to work, go to school, get groceries, go for a cruise, date night with your partner etc.

Under my ownership, the vehicle was generally trouble free. I had to replace the brake light switch which caused the ABS fault to go off and it was a real pain in the ass to replace because you had to have a flexibility of a 14-year old Romanian gymnast.

Outside of general maintenance like fluid changes and filter changes, they are very easy to maintain. You'll come across some examples where people will tell you the IMS is going to explode, your engine is going to explode, your transmission is going to explode, your mom is going to explode. I'm sorry, but a lot of it is unsubstantiated. You might get some odd ball leaks here and there, but remember, this generation of 911 is now 20+ years old. The 996 was one of the most reliable European cars I owned.

Yes, parts can get expensive. I've said this before, but the PCar tax is real. Porsche gatekeeps the supply chain tightly and local dealers can really dick you on stupid things. You have to find a mechanic you can trust and is willing to work on the car if you don't plan on doing maintenance yourself. There is nothing difficult or complicated on these cars, with the exception of you might need a PIWIS or Durametric scanner to perform some level of diagnostics. There is a lot of support and knowledge on these cars online as well. There are a few independent shops in the GVRD who can take care of you, but you'll need to find a shop you can trust. Some are more enterprising than others.

These cars have yo-yo'd from the depreciation curve. They can be had for low $20s to high $40s but have bounced back, so prices are all over the place and the nostalgia and COVID tax is real. What you really need to be mindful of is whether a car has had routine maintenance and a stack of receipts from an enthusiast. I have learned these cars NEED to be driven. Low mileage examples are often a Pandora's Box. You never know if you'll get a gem or a complete disaster that will bankrupt you and really sour your ownership experience. Also, dealing with Porsche Canada these past few years has been a real pain in the ass and it has really annoyed me to another level. I would like to think of myself as a patient and easy going person. Porsche Canada has really tested me. If Porsche Canada was an actual real person, I would kick him in the nuts. Twice.

When I moved to Toronto, I sold the 996. I found a 986 Boxster S to fill the void and similarly, the car has been very reliable. I put in the time and money to maintain it, and it has been a rewarding experience. The only time the car left me stranded was a month or two ago where my shifter cable snapped, but that was on me because I heavily track the car and beat the crap out of it, so this was bound to happen.

Some people here cried and called foul on its reliability and said it was expensive and unreliable. Sure, it was expensive to replace the cables, but this was also a 20+ year old car that I heavily tracked. Emphasis on hard. Think about it for a second. How many people here are willing to hit the rev limiter on their motors? I'm sure very few, do. I've hit the rev limiter on my car so many times that the ECU has hit the dreaded 65,535. For peace of mind, I had the motor bore scoped, compression and leakdown tested. The numbers came back with flying colours. I have 155,500KM on the original engine. If you take care of these cars, it will take care of you.

I've been meaning to get back into a 996/997, but life's priorities have shifted as I went back to school. I would happily recommend anyone to get into a 996 given a solid maintenance history and reasonable mileage and general condition. For your JDM journey, I suggest you do more research on what you can expect should you import one. If you decide to sell yours, I'm always open to buying from a fellow enthusiast provided I can afford one. :D

Best of luck on your search! :)

[Traum]

I'm open books right now when it comes to which car, but i think it's mainly either 996s, Cayman, Boxster or SLK? I've been browsing at FB Marketplace from time to time, and I do notice several 996's, Cayman or Audi TT's (almost most TT seem to be RHD) that were brought over from Japan. Hence, I figured maybe I could do it myself to save more money since my partner is fluent in Japanese.
I know an acquaintance who imported a 987 Boxster from Japan. At the time when he was servicing the vehicle, it turned out that some sort of emissions equipment is different between the JDM car and the CDM / USDM cars, and he had trouble finding the right parts to get that fixed. There could have been more stuff downstream from the engine that were also different, but I am not 100% certain on the details of the story.

I guess the take away is -- expect the major items to be the same, but don't be surprised when the accessory stuff are different, which may lead to headaches. But I guess that's par for course with JDM imports.

[bcrdukes]

^
This

You'll get some Easter egg surprises from the JDM imports when it comes to Porsche. For the most part, you'll be okay, but once you hit a snag, Japan is your only option.

[roastpuff]

https://www.drivingline.com/s3/drivingline.prd/media/articleimages/2015/04/4japan.jpg?quality=70&mode=pad&copymetadata=true&w=800

[bcrdukes]

In my case, I had to overnight parts from France. :okay:

If Porsche Canada is reading this, you can kiss my ass!

[Badhobz]

For disclosure, both myself and Badhobz owned a 996. I had an 04 C2 with 50,000KM. I sold it with 62,500KM. I can't remember which model year he owned, but he mentioned that it nearly killed him, so I'll let him speak to that.

Mein Kampf with ze beetle....
It tried to kill me! NUMEROUS TIMES. i won't speak of that monstrosity in polite company. :pokerface:

[bcedhk]

Thanks for the solid advices <3

I guess I’ll just have to keep an eye on FB and try to beat the horde of mid-life crisis RS owners to snag a well-cared-for, unmolested 996 from a 70-year-old West Van gweilo who needs to sell it because of hip surgery...

[yray]

why not a 944 :troll:

[Traum]

I guess I’ll just have to keep an eye on FB and try to beat the horde of mid-life crisis RS owners to snag a well-cared-for, unmolested 996 from a 70-year-old West Van gweilo who needs to sell it because of hip surgery...
You sure you want a 996 though?

I've heard quite a few stories about 996 -- esp the 996.1 -- being not too reliable, unless you get into a 996 GT cars with the Mezger engines.

[bcrdukes]

At this rate, why not just get a 996/997 Cup car. :derp:
Maintenance is not by mileage, but by hours.

[bcrdukes]

why not a 944 :troll:

Hey, they have an entire race class dedicated to the 944! :D

[EvoFire]

@bcedhk - Trust that I'm not trying to rain on your parade. What I will share is with best intentions, and ultimately, you will need to make a decision or dive further in your search. This is a very long read, so take your time.

For disclosure, both myself and Badhobz owned a 996. I had an 04 C2 with 50,000KM. I sold it with 62,500KM. I can't remember which model year he owned, but he mentioned that it nearly killed him, so I'll let him speak to that.

My ownership experience was positive. I liked the car a lot as it was very civil. You could drive it to work, go to school, get groceries, go for a cruise, date night with your partner etc.

Under my ownership, the vehicle was generally trouble free. I had to replace the brake light switch which caused the ABS fault to go off and it was a real pain in the ass to replace because you had to have a flexibility of a 14-year old Romanian gymnast.

Outside of general maintenance like fluid changes and filter changes, they are very easy to maintain. You'll come across some examples where people will tell you the IMS is going to explode, your engine is going to explode, your transmission is going to explode, your mom is going to explode. I'm sorry, but a lot of it is unsubstantiated. You might get some odd ball leaks here and there, but remember, this generation of 911 is now 20+ years old. The 996 was one of the most reliable European cars I owned.

Yes, parts can get expensive. I've said this before, but the PCar tax is real. Porsche gatekeeps the supply chain tightly and local dealers can really dick you on stupid things. You have to find a mechanic you can trust and is willing to work on the car if you don't plan on doing maintenance yourself. There is nothing difficult or complicated on these cars, with the exception of you might need a PIWIS or Durametric scanner to perform some level of diagnostics. There is a lot of support and knowledge on these cars online as well. There are a few independent shops in the GVRD who can take care of you, but you'll need to find a shop you can trust. Some are more enterprising than others.

These cars have yo-yo'd from the depreciation curve. They can be had for low $20s to high $40s but have bounced back, so prices are all over the place and the nostalgia and COVID tax is real. What you really need to be mindful of is whether a car has had routine maintenance and a stack of receipts from an enthusiast. I have learned these cars NEED to be driven. Low mileage examples are often a Pandora's Box. You never know if you'll get a gem or a complete disaster that will bankrupt you and really sour your ownership experience. Also, dealing with Porsche Canada these past few years has been a real pain in the ass and it has really annoyed me to another level. I would like to think of myself as a patient and easy going person. Porsche Canada has really tested me. If Porsche Canada was an actual real person, I would kick him in the nuts. Twice.

When I moved to Toronto, I sold the 996. I found a 986 Boxster S to fill the void and similarly, the car has been very reliable. I put in the time and money to maintain it, and it has been a rewarding experience. The only time the car left me stranded was a month or two ago where my shifter cable snapped, but that was on me because I heavily track the car and beat the crap out of it, so this was bound to happen.

Some people here cried and called foul on its reliability and said it was expensive and unreliable. Sure, it was expensive to replace the cables, but this was also a 20+ year old car that I heavily tracked. Emphasis on hard. Think about it for a second. How many people here are willing to hit the rev limiter on their motors? I'm sure very few, do. I've hit the rev limiter on my car so many times that the ECU has hit the dreaded 65,535. For peace of mind, I had the motor bore scoped, compression and leakdown tested. The numbers came back with flying colours. I have 155,500KM on the original engine. If you take care of these cars, it will take care of you.

I've been meaning to get back into a 996/997, but life's priorities have shifted as I went back to school. I would happily recommend anyone to get into a 996 given a solid maintenance history and reasonable mileage and general condition. For your JDM journey, I suggest you do more research on what you can expect should you import one. If you decide to sell yours, I'm always open to buying from a fellow enthusiast provided I can afford one. :D

Best of luck on your search! :)

I would say your use case is the ideal use case. Talked to quite a few ppl who are enthusiasts and sells these things. Puttering around town is not good for the engine, you want to let it warm up and drive it hard, so basically your track day. Starting the car driving it 5 mins to the shops and back home is the basically the optimal scenario for bore scoring.

[bcrdukes]

Ditto. The short drives and puttering around town is really bad for these cars. You have to let it properly warm up then enjoy them for what they are design to do. The short 5-minute 2000rpm drive will kill these cars. And your wallet. And then your spirit. :pokerface:

[whitev70r]

Thanks for the solid advices <3

I guess I’ll just have to keep an eye on FB and try to beat the horde of mid-life crisis RS owners to snag a well-cared-for, unmolested 996 from a 70-year-old West Van gweilo who needs to sell it because of hip surgery...

How's this? 2001, 152K kms, $22K

https://www.facebook.com/share/19QARkyUf8/

https://scontent.fcxh3-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t45.5328-4/525741350_1837498503500326_7929890093390080138_n.j pg?stp=dst-jpg_p720x720_tt6&_nc_cat=105&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=247b10&_nc_ohc=TTr9Kfqask8Q7kNvwFx3gFq&_nc_oc=AdlIeZICUVLW7GPIWzCUOPIHVlrPgxl4RoD7r9vZhOB 24FuOL9x6XXO5XWYJyBlD0RLa0aBbbK8PAIgJNXP1SeHF&_nc_zt=23&_nc_ht=scontent.fcxh3-1.fna&_nc_gid=XqQrq-u34W2Uh6EwAACnag&oh=00_AfUXc4Mte7m-__NbmeuuFdhz-xpHUy0aADowjyvZjgcAoA&oe=68AC2164

[bcedhk]

I did message that guy, but he hasn't responded. His seller rating also is a red flag.

Are Cayman's a better option to find a better deal as they are less desirable? From my initial research, the base Cayman's might not be as prone to catastrophic issues as the Cayman S or 996's. Please correct me if I'm wrong.. But might be a harder task for me to convivence the other half...

The 996 and TT has my wifey approval for now as I have been telling her it can sit up to 4 people. I didn't tell her two of those passengers would have to either be amputees or midgets.

[Badhobz]

To be honest, if you want German. I’d get a m3 convertible or a e46 convertible. Both readily available and likely cheaper.

[bcrdukes]

I did message that guy, but he hasn't responded. His seller rating also is a red flag.

Are Cayman's a better option to find a better deal as they are less desirable? From my initial research, the base Cayman's might not be as prone to catastrophic issues as the Cayman S or 996's. Please correct me if I'm wrong.. But might be a harder task for me to convivence the other half...

The 996 and TT has my wifey approval for now as I have been telling her it can sit up to 4 people. I didn't tell her two of those passengers would have to either be amputees or midgets.

You want the 2009+ Caymans. The 2005 - 2008 Caymans are prone to bore scoring and other oddball issues but like I said before, make sure it has all the maintenance done with a huge stack of receipts. They are a "funner" car to drive and something Porsche didn't want people to know without overshadowing the 997.

I'll side with Badhobz and suggest you consider an M3 if you haven't already. If you can do it, get the latest M3. It's a lot of car compared to the competition.

[whitev70r]

Good thing for most of us here is that our 3/4 life crisis is coming up ... another chance for a 'toy'. Then there is 4/5 life crisis ...

[bcrdukes]

I still want my BMW R9T Cafe Racer. I want to go out on a big bang. There was one for sale by an RS member and I missed the chance. Definitely the one that got away. Still lusting it after all these years.

[EvoFire]

I would recommend to avoid E93 and F33/83 verts. The hardtops are finicky. An accident will almost guarantee it'll never work right again. Ditto any work on it and not put it back together properly.

[Tapioca]

bcedhk:

I'm mid-life, I have kids and I totally understand the whole need to buy a convertible. Don't buy a motorcycle - your kids don't need to see their father end up in a body bag or suffer from a life-changing injury. Buy a 4-seater convertible so you can take your kids for rides.

As some here know, I bought an E46 convertible a few years ago during COVID. It was a neglected example and it's automatic. But, I can at least work on it during my spare time and the parts network is very strong with numerous OEMs who still make parts, unlike Porsche. BMW still makes parts for the car and even their parts are not unreasonable. Don't overlook peak-era BMWs - E46, Z3/Z4, and even a 1-series convertible with the N52.

Another tip - get in the habit of putting on SPF50 (if it's not already part of your skincare regimen) to keep the freckles and sunspots at bay. You'll need it once you get used to driving with the top down.

[EvoFire]

What Tapioca said, and add a hat to your regiment once you start driving it regularly. Though becareful of it making an unwanted exit.

[bcrdukes]

I must be doing something wrong. I bought a hardtop for my convertible and never use the convertible. :fuckthatshit: