[pherio]

https://www.autoblog.com/news/2026-nissan-sentra-stuns-with-fastback-silhouette-more-standard-features

new sentra. meh.
https://www.autoblog.com/.image/w_750,q_auto:good,c_limit/NzowMDAwMDAwMDAwOTU1MTA4/sentra-13.jpg

https://media1.tenor.com/m/v_yJIceKc_0AAAAC/bart-simpson.gif

[AstulzerRZD]

For a rental car the ‘zero gravity’ seats are way better than the Corolla seats.
I swear those are made of plywood and cardboard

[RabidRat]

I bet anything's gotta be better than a Corolla. Toyota knows they could put zero effort into anything they sell, and still sell out of them.

[Badhobz]

I bet anything's gotta be better than a Corolla. Toyota knows they could put zero effort into anything they sell, and still sell out of them.

Absolutely! But in this category of cars, the only thing that matters is reliability.

Thats the only reason why anyone would put up with an ugly piece of shit like this....

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-Kf1bEs-uxW0/U5eebnEo40I/AAAAAAAAVrU/VQhUcyZDGcA/w944-h531-no/20140610_201013.jpg

Civic doesn’t even have this stellar reliability rating, and the Sentra is leagues away from the Corolla reputation.

[bcrdukes]

Best car. Ever.

[supafamous]

Absolutely! But in this category of cars, the only thing that matters is reliability.

Thats the only reason why anyone would put up with an ugly piece of shit like this....

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-Kf1bEs-uxW0/U5eebnEo40I/AAAAAAAAVrU/VQhUcyZDGcA/w944-h531-no/20140610_201013.jpg

Civic doesn’t even have this stellar reliability rating, and the Sentra is leagues away from the Corolla reputation.

I learned to drive stick on that piece of shit - finding 3rd gear was always an adventure, I landed in 5th more often than not.

[Badhobz]

sexy. dis ratrolla is best ratrolla.

Its the one that my parents couldnt afford, so we ended up with that god awful Sentra XE.

If we would have bought the corolla back in the days, it wouldnt even have had A/C and manual everything.

[AstulzerRZD]

I drove one and I thought the engine was broken because
It was losing speed going up Arthur Laign full throttle…

[Badhobz]

how dare you say shit about the ratrolla! IT WAS DOING RATTY THINGS BEFORE YOU WERE EVEN BORN JUNIOR !!!!!!!!

https://media.toyota.ca/content/dam/media-toyota/toyota-models/corolla/2000-toyota-corolla/2000_Toyota_Corolla_03.jpg
Look at this sexy interior. God i still have dreams about this interior.

https://toyotacanada.scene7.com/is/image/toyotacanada/2000_Toyota_Corolla_01?$Media-Large$

[AstulzerRZD]

why is there an overdrive button if it only has 3 speeds

[bcrdukes]

The ECU changes to a different map and shifts gears at different rev ranges.

[68style]

Actually this Corolla and other cars of this era has a 4 speed automatic, on older cars the O/D button allows access to the 4th gear for economy… you only turn it off when going down hills to help with slowing the vehicle.

[bcrdukes]

I have never seen anyone so offended or triggered by Toyota.

[AstulzerRZD]

I must have driven a VE model with the 3 speed
There was no tachometer!

[bcrdukes]

Those are rare and highly valued!

[EvoFire]

The 3 speed came in the earlier model AE101 I think, not this jelly bean version.

The one that came after this one is the Corolla to have imo. But I still remember the soft velour rear seats of this jelly bean one, and that interior brings back memories.

[AstulzerRZD]

I had to double check... Canadian brochure says the VE had a 3 speed option.
Overdrive button means it has a 4 speed.

https://xr793.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/1998-Toyota-Corolla-CN.pdf

[supafamous]

Man, were 3 speed autos still super common in 1998? I know the Neon had it but man, those things sucked ass.

[RabidRat]

Actually this Corolla and other cars of this era has a 4 speed automatic, on older cars the O/D button allows access to the 4th gear for economy… you only turn it off when going down hills to help with slowing the vehicle.

As if a Corolla would ever need help with something like that lol

I think growing up, I was less devastated to learn Santa Claus was fake, than to find out "Over Drive" didn't actually mean you activate some kind of turbo boost.

[AstulzerRZD]

https://www.auto-brochures.com/makes/Honda/Civic/Honda_US%20Civic_2000.pdf

So the EG hatch had no tach, no power steering on the base MT, no seat height adjustment, no stock radio…. And wtf is accessory A/C??

[roastpuff]

A/C was optional

[EvoFire]

I don't know about you guys, but a 4sp in conjunction with the OD button meant you can hold any gear you want.

D od on = 4th
D od off = 3rd
2 = 2
L = 1

Poor man's sports auto transmission.

Brake into a corner, OD off downshift, turn and accelerate out. Pull it down to 2 if you need even more power to preempt the exit.

[OriginalJC]

https://www.auto-brochures.com/makes/Honda/Civic/Honda_US%20Civic_2000.pdf

So the EG hatch had no tach, no power steering on the base MT, no seat height adjustment, no stock radio…. And wtf is accessory A/C??

EK hatch :alone:

I had a CX trim. Manual, no tach, no AC, no power steering, no ABS.
I remember trading a guy a subwoofer, for the gauge cluster out of an auto civic. So I had a tach with the drive mode indicators :QQ:

Those were the days. A purple civic, with a SRI, flooring from light to light barely hitting the speed limit.

[Badhobz]

I don't know about you guys, but a 4sp in conjunction with the OD button meant you can hold any gear you want.

D od on = 4th
D od off = 3rd
2 = 2
L = 1

Poor man's sports auto transmission.

Brake into a corner, OD off downshift, turn and accelerate out. Pull it down to 2 if you need even more power to preempt the exit.

I raced my buddy corolla when i was 16. He and i were neck and neck going down broadway. He manually shifted his automatic corolla like a boss.

[Manic!]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewf-q-U_b9A

They need to drop the tariffs now.

[AstulzerRZD]

I don't know about you guys, but a 4sp in conjunction with the OD button meant you can hold any gear you want.

D od on = 4th
D od off = 3rd
2 = 2
L = 1

Poor man's sports auto transmission.

Brake into a corner, OD off downshift, turn and accelerate out. Pull it down to 2 if you need even more power to preempt the exit.

Does the TC keep lockup on downshift?

On the Aisin 6AT I have to request lower gear (it unlocks TC and puts engine at idle), get on the gas to lock it up, then get on brakes.

[EvoFire]

I found the torque converter to be RPM specific with the 4AT, once you hit a certain level of RPM I don't remember hearing it flare. Even with brake torquing it on autox starts, it still does the motorboating for bit before I get lock up.

Shifting up from 2 in a stress setting is hard though. Hondas have the lock on D -> N iirc, but Toyota doesn't so if you aren't delicate about it you'll push into N.

[RabidRat]

I raced my buddy corolla when i was 16. He and i were neck and neck going down broadway. He manually shifted his automatic corolla like a boss.

In case anybody gets nervous about this: they likely never broke the speed limit.

If anything they were probably impeding the traffic trying to get around them.

[bcrdukes]

So, when should we have the next Stock & Noob Meet? :troll:

[teggy604]

EK hatch :alone:

I had a CX trim. Manual, no tach, no AC, no power steering, no ABS.
I remember trading a guy a subwoofer, for the gauge cluster out of an auto civic. So I had a tach with the drive mode indicators :QQ:

Those were the days. A purple civic, with a SRI, flooring from light to light barely hitting the speed limit.

Also learned to drive manual with no tach. Nothing like listening to the engine rpm and shifting gears. It was pretty sweet. Even after I got a tach I was pretty dead on what RPM the engine was singing.

[Manic!]

Pretty amazing for 100k cad.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JMO0NRYIl8

[headhunt3r]

Any good lease deals right now for a small CUV like a Kona for 2 years? Family is looking and one Hyundai dealer is still playing markup games.

[68style]

I felt my peepee shrink in disappointment watching the Tesla an Xiaomi silently drag race

[Manic!]

I felt my peepee shrink in disappointment watching the Tesla an Xiaomi silently drag race

All I see is 1500 HP.

[68style]

Who cares tho man? You rip off a couple of 0-60's and then what?

You gonna do a 9 second 1/4 mile pull in Nanaimo? Get impounded?

It's a pointless car. Yah it's only 55k gbp for 1500hp but t would be totally fine with 400hp and costing 20k gbp.

It's not like it has the wow factor of a Ferrari or Lambo or Bugatti or something else that's also "pointless" for the money. In fact it looks like shit.

[underscore]

0-100 in 2.7s, so at most you can do a pull for maybe 3.5s before you're into impound territory. The rest of the time you're driving a hefty 5200lb car. To each their own but I prefer my cars to be more enjoyable for more of the time.

[Manic!]

Who cares tho man? You rip off a couple of 0-60's and then what?

You gonna do a 9 second 1/4 mile pull in Nanaimo? Get impounded?

It's a pointless car. Yah it's only 55k gbp for 1500hp but t would be totally fine with 400hp and costing 20k gbp.

It's not like it has the wow factor of a Ferrari or Lambo or Bugatti or something else that's also "pointless" for the money. In fact it looks like shit.

No one has a problem when companies like Bugatti, Koenigsegg, and Hennessey fight for the title of the worlds fastest car. Right now Ford and Chevy are fighting for the fastest American car around the ring. But when ching chong makes a car that destroys everything for way less it's who cares.

This car does everything extremely well including being a daily. What else are you going to buy new for a 100k that's better.

[trollface]

What are you, all over 65?

Hell yeah give me that 0-60 in 2.5.

[Badhobz]

Slow cars are better…. The older I get the more fun it is to drive a slow car slow and clog up the road with your own ineptitude.

Maniacs !!!

[68style]

No one has a problem when companies like Bugatti, Koenigsegg, and Hennessey fight for the title of the worlds fastest car. Right now Ford and Chevy are fighting for the fastest American car around the ring. But when ching chong makes a car that destroys everything for way less it's who cares.

This car does everything extremely well including being a daily. What else are you going to buy new for a 100k that's better.

??? Did I say anywhere that I care about any of those cars either? Or their petty battles for top speed at whatever? Just a bunch of manufacturers comparing dicks for special order cars nobody can buy. I guess the one good thing about the linglong is that it’s affordable, if you can call a 6 figure car affordable to anything resembling the masses.

What I can care about or respect is the craftsmanship of some of those upper echelon cars, of which the linglong will never have even 1/10th of the cachet. It’s just ugly plastic and metal attached to a giant battery pack and 3 motors. Even the Tesla looks classy next to it.

[GS8]

When I think of craftsmanship, I think Spyker :sweetjesus:

When i think of 'take me to the glory hole and use it like a whack a mole', I think TVR.

When I think about Ben Stein teaching me about igneous rock metamorphosis at 3pm on a Sunday afternoon, I think EVs.

[Mikoyan]

I see commercial property insurance rates increasing due to even more high powered vehicles driving into storefronts in Richmond.

[bcrdukes]

I see commercial property insurance rates increasing due to even more high powered vehicles driving into storefronts in Richmond.

Is this spike in insurance rates unique to all of the Lower Mainland or just Richmond in general? Is there a report that's publicly available?

[Mikoyan]

Is this spike in insurance rates unique to all of the Lower Mainland or just Richmond in general? Is there a report that's publicly available?

Dunno.

I witnessed a women rip her front bumper off, backing out of her parking spot at Dollarama on Kingsway yesterday. She had swung the front end around without realizing where the retaining wall was. She then continued to straighten out the car, then proceeded to back into the Dollarama building itself.

If it wasn't for the railing that protects the pedestrian walkway, she would have backed it through the glass wall where the cashiers are.

I used it as an example for my son to keep an eye on moving vehicles at all times. I think he took the lesson to heart, as I noticed he was scanning traffic a lot more as we crossed the street to dinner tonight.

[Manic!]

??? Did I say anywhere that I care about any of those cars either? Or their petty battles for top speed at whatever? Just a bunch of manufacturers comparing dicks for special order cars nobody can buy. I guess the one good thing about the linglong is that it’s affordable, if you can call a 6 figure car affordable to anything resembling the masses.

What I can care about or respect is the craftsmanship of some of those upper echelon cars, of which the linglong will never have even 1/10th of the cachet. It’s just ugly plastic and metal attached to a giant battery pack and 3 motors. Even the Tesla looks classy next to it.

At $66 per HP this a the best automotive deal in history. It's around the price of a base model vet and only 20K more than a Nissan Nismo Z. I would take this over both those cars. I also have a feeling a lot of hyper cars are lemons. You don't hear about it because 1. No one really drives them. 2. If they complain in public it will hurt the resale value. For most it's an investment.

[BIC_BAWS]

I also have a feeling a lot of hyper cars are lemons. You don't hear about it because 1. No one really drives them. 2. If they complain in public it will hurt the resale value. For most it's an investment.

Say hello to SF90

What I can care about or respect is the craftsmanship of some of those upper echelon cars, of which the linglong will never have even 1/10th of the cachet. It’s just ugly plastic and metal attached to a giant battery pack and 3 motors. Even the Tesla looks classy next to it.

For a lease term ownership, I can see the value in the Chinese cars. I went to a BYD dealership in HK and was pleasantly surprised that for 40K you get something that beats both a TM3 and VW Golf R in price, power and interior materials LOL. No hard plastic anywhere in sight.

[AstulzerRZD]

Thing is they lease way worse than VW EV in the EU. I expect that to be the case in North America as well.

It's really Africa/South America where they buy the car outright that this works.

[underscore]

What I can care about or respect is the craftsmanship of some of those upper echelon cars

The craftsmanship of the styling process, or the build quality? Because most of them are terribly designed and terribly built.

[Manic!]

Ferrari quality baby.

https://i.ibb.co/jv6qZzD4/look.webp

https://i.ibb.co/yB6bc707/look-at-thes.webp


Makes some really good points

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWABXs1IV-4

Where is elons roadster.

[supafamous]

For any super lazy folks who want to wash their car less I used Gyeon Wetcoat for the first time to top my ceramic coated car and it's impressive stuff. I've tried a lot of different products over the years ranging from GTechniq C2V3 to Hypercoat to CarPro Reload to TEC852 Detailer spray to the super expensive Kamikaze Overcoat (over $100 for for 300ml!) and Wetcoat has the best self cleaning properties I've run into.

It's not as hydrophobic as Overcoat but better than everything else I've tried but the self cleaning is, so far, stellar. It's spray on, rinse off easy too. Not sure how durable it is - I hear 3 months is reasonable and up to 6 months is possible.

https://gyeon.co/product/wetcoat/
https://carzilla.ca/products/gyeon-wetcoat-500ml-new-upgraded-version-2019?srsltid=AfmBOopBkHvireN0Yqhi2VIJnb50rULe5m_-yZIwdFh68EfTG0wGaIIE

[bcrdukes]

Thanks. I ordered a 1L bottle from a local detailer.

[!LittleDragon]

Who cares tho man? You rip off a couple of 0-60's and then what?

You gonna do a 9 second 1/4 mile pull in Nanaimo? Get impounded?

It's a pointless car. Yah it's only 55k gbp for 1500hp but t would be totally fine with 400hp and costing 20k gbp.

It's not like it has the wow factor of a Ferrari or Lambo or Bugatti or something else that's also "pointless" for the money. In fact it looks like shit.

Years ago I rented a Model S out in Vegas. Initially, I floored it to see for myself what this EV acceleration was all about... Yah, I did that for about 4-5 times before I just started driving it like a Camry that costs $100k. Is it quick? Yes but damn it was boring... A car that quick needs to stimulate all the senses, it should wake up the neighbors, smell like petrol and constantly give you the feeling that if you fuck up, it's going to kill you.

That's what make cars exciting, without it, it's just meh...

[Dbone]

I donno, I absolutely love my Taycan.

I can blow the doors off of basically anything. It corners flatter than my exige. I can chuck it around in the wet. The stereo is awesome. The seats feel great. It has the best steering wheel! The wife doesn't complain. The kids love getting tossed around in the back.

It's just perfect around town, and it was great as a road trip car (with a bit of planning).

Maybe it is just a appliance type car, but it's just so damn enjoyable. I'll always have a loud second car, but for a primary car a quality EV is awesome.

I don't feel the need for 1000hp though.. that is a bit crazy.

[68style]

I can see that in my buddy's Taycan GranTurismo or whatever the wagon one is called. It's got some of that drama and flair to it which I think is what you're both alluding to a car needing/having.

My buddy has trouble with his in Calgary because so many of the non-Tesla chargers are broken all the time here, infrastructure sucks, so he has to be really careful where he takes it which is a pretty big down side... he'd probably have an even better experience if he was in the lower mainland with it. He used to have one of the first dual motor Model3's ever made and it served him well, but I doubt he'll go back to a Tesla again.

[bcrdukes]

Excuse me, but it is referred to as the Sport Turismo, sir. :notbad:

[Dbone]

Or Cross Turismo in my case. The height adjustable airbags are cool too. I could do without the plastic cladding though.

[EvoFire]

Or Cross Turismo in my case. The height adjustable airbags are cool too. I could do without the plastic cladding though.

I think you can order the car body colour?

[underscore]

The Heart of Darkness TSD rally is back, it runs overnight on October 18 out of Kelowna. I know a couple people here have done TSD events in the past and may be interested. For the unfamiliar, it's a driving event on gravel roads that can be done with any road legal car and a codriver. No fancy gear or prep required beyond a first aid kit, fire extinguisher, and reflective triangle.

https://www.rallybc.ca/archives/2025/2025_HoD.htm

[SSM_DC5]

Hobz, is this the Toyota junk you want for $20k?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RoBSK7xJFRM&si=Bk1lGlMDpG2HxQ-P

[SSM_DC5]

Since when did dealers start charging so many different fees? Doc fee, dealer fee, finance acquisition fee?!? Used to be just 1 dumb fee, now it's 3?

https://www.facebook.com/share/1EFhRzjd5E/

[roastpuff]

Was reminiscing about my family’s previous vehicles and I just realized that the W124 E320 we had back in South East Asia in 1995/1996 was a special edition one. It was a Masterpiece edition in manual and that seems to be quite rare.

I still have a soft spot for that generation of Mercedes. Peak Mercedes.

[Gerbs]

Are Taycans reliable? The hatch looks sick.

Starting to depreciate to a great price point too

[AstulzerRZD]

They became an even better deal when their batteries got recalled.

Owners of the base base models are getting the 2nd gen extended battery for FREE.

[headhunt3r]

I forgot who, but i know somebody here has an Infiniti i30/i35. Hope it's not theirs.
https://i.redd.it/xxrwx4j8rysf1.jpeg
https://preview.redd.it/city-square-underground-fire-v0-265zvn5brysf1.jpeg?width=2940&auto=webp&004de0cf

https://www.reddit.com/r/vancouver/comments/1nxbile/city_square_underground_fire/

[whitev70r]

Heard on the news that there is a refinery in Cali on fire ... it supplies gas to Pacific Northwest. Price of gas expected to go up due to this, 10-25 cents, so you might want to fill up tonight.


https://vancouver.citynews.ca/2025/10/03/us-oil-refinery-fire-could-affect-bc-gas-prices/

[Badhobz]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsUXJmeiAHY

i hate the outside, but the inside is actually not bad.. skip to 11 minutes. wtf?!?! on an ES!?!?!

[BIC_BAWS]

Alright so I can't figure out how to embed Google Photos here so for those interested in the full album of cars I spotted in HK, here's the link (https://photos.app.goo.gl/AH7KYGuSrbGpsH6L8). I guess I'll non-sensically cherry pick some pictures, upload to imgur and add some commentary.

As expected, vankulture is pretty big over there. Lots of BBS LMs or "LM"s with Brembo/AP Racing BBKs LOL. 3rd gen alphard is very luxurious too, ended up renting one later in JP.

https://i.imgur.com/12KK0JO.png https://i.imgur.com/f2QhWn3.png https://i.imgur.com/Y0FR7LV.png


https://i.imgur.com/O0JDww5.pnghttps://i.imgur.com/c1UzOfk.png
https://i.imgur.com/50bLjdD.pnghttps://i.imgur.com/DLF4Bfo.png


The CHYNA EV Vans/CUVs are pretty cool too.

https://i.imgur.com/uyoecJi.png

Look how ricey this one looks, its great!

https://i.imgur.com/qr1mI5d.png

Speaking of CHYNA, I found this 2-door Defender, an EV Macan(?)/Cayenne(?) Turbo, wtf is a BMW iXE or iX1 ///M xDrive30, some weird Smart thing and a BYD Seal (rip off TM3 ish?)

https://i.imgur.com/cnEbF7v.pnghttps://i.imgur.com/EwIWC8c.png
https://i.imgur.com/eVArNLs.pnghttps://i.imgur.com/MPwqXyt.png
https://i.imgur.com/mnSOPRX.pnghttps://i.imgur.com/1LCv3jZ.png
https://i.imgur.com/G9jsFyZ.png https://i.imgur.com/y2QfUBZ.png


As expected, I found more Type Rs (FK8/FL5s) than I see in Vancouver. But unexpectedly, I found a BC Racing and Endless Pro Shop LOL.

https://i.imgur.com/ghB3i1a.jpeg

Radeonboy said he's from Yuen Long.. look at this rice out gem I found. Actually, I found a lot of ricers and modified cars of any kind in YL.

https://i.imgur.com/4gFZo5O.png

Also spotted a modifed to the tits Jaguar XFR-S (???), an upbadged CSX-S, and a BMW G81 M3 Touring but my phone decided to take an action shot of the scooter instead.


https://i.imgur.com/RPfI6wG.png
https://i.imgur.com/2IxzDK2.png
https://i.imgur.com/GdSAZ5H.png


Turns out idiot drivers are universal and cops in HK use Prado's?
https://i.imgur.com/ffJdHtF.png

Lastly, here's a two-wheeled smt found on Lantau Island

https://i.imgur.com/dSPo5Wq.jpeg

[bcrdukes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsUXJmeiAHY

i hate the outside, but the inside is actually not bad.. skip to 11 minutes. wtf?!?! on an ES!?!?!

Gross.

[radeonboy]

Speaking of CHYNA, I found this 2-door Defender, an EV Macan(?)/Cayenne(?) Turbo, wtf is a BMW iXE or iX1 ///M xDrive30, some weird Smart thing and a BYD Seal (rip off TM3 ish?)

https://i.imgur.com/mnSOPRX.pnghttps://i.imgur.com/1LCv3jZ.png


That is a BMW IX1 / IX2 EV. In your other photos, that Smart is called a #1, and the Porsche is a Macan Turbo EV.

If you're into car spotting, car parks always have interesting finds. Car ownership is pretty expensive in HK, but car culture itself remains resilient despite the challenges based on the variety of vehicles that you'll find.

Radeonboy said he's from Yuen Long.. look at this rice out gem I found. Actually, I found a lot of ricers and modified cars of any kind in YL.

https://i.imgur.com/4gFZo5O.png

I swear half of YL vehicles are modified to some degree, the town has a reputation for being a quite reckneck after all :lol

Turns out idiot drivers are universal and cops in HK use Prado's?
https://i.imgur.com/ffJdHtF.png

I find Vancouver drivers much more idiotic than HK drivers IMO. HK drivers are aggressive but they're also assertive which makes predicting their actions a lot easier than the clueless drivers roaming Richmond.

The Prado is a HKPF staple, along with 540iA Tourings which I don't think regular citizens can order as a private vehicle.

[bcrdukes]

That's a lot of lap sap on the dash. What taxi is this?

[Badhobz]

TYPICAL GUANGDONG HOARDER!!!!! johnson baby wipes!??! JOHNSON FUCKING BABY WIPES ON THE DASH!?!!?!? you know youre a dirty bitch when you need baby wipes within easy reach.

[SSM_DC5]

Couldn't find the official spotted thread, but.....

Spotted this green Mazda MX6 with a revscene.net sticker on the side window. Is it one you or someone's previously sold car but sticker was left on. https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/54833097718_7b73656379_c.jpg

[red kryptonite]

i havent seen a mx6 in ages

[BIC_BAWS]

VW shows off emergency assist - if you pass out at the wheel the car will takeover control, pull to the shoulder, alert everyone around you and call 9-1-1. EU only I expect.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/P0z6A1Ufltw

[68style]

Leave it to VW to build a car that fuckin narcs on you when you're blackout drunk

[red kryptonite]

so this has been on my mind lately. short trips are bad for the cars blah blah blah...
example: 10mins drive to work, where it sits for 9hours. 10mins drive home, where it sits until the next day and repeat.

but what about multiple short trips leading to operating temp before its long sit?
example: 5mins drive to the coffee shop, where it sits for 5mins. 10mins drive to the gym, where it sits for 1 hour. 15mins drive to work, hitting operating temp, where it sits for 9 hours.

[Traum]

The way I understand it is -- strictly speaking, it isn't short trips that are necessarily bad for the engine. Rather it is:

1. Cold starts are bad for the engine, bcos cold starts mean oil has probably drained off the engine internals, so there is very little to no oil coating and lubricating the engine internals. So engine wear becomes excessive.

2. Cold engine oil doesn't flow well, and may not / does not penetrate all engine components that should be coated with an oil film. No oil film on engine parts that come into contact with each other is bad news.

3. Short trips are bad if they didn't / could get the engine up to operating temperature. You want the engine to get to operating temperature because that can remove / burn off some of the nasty stuff that could harm your engine.

So in your first example -- there are only 2 cold starts. Both are bad, but there are only 2 cold starts.

In your 2nd example, your first 5 min drive to the coffe shop is a cold start, so that's bad. And bcos the drive is so short, your engine (and the engine oil) doesn't warm up to full operating temp, and there may not be enough time for the cold engine oil to circulate throughout the oil gallery. So when you start your car up again for the 2nd leg to the gym, there may not be enough lubrication for all the engine components yet, and that creates more wear, which is also bad. And then when you drive 15 min to work later, the 1 hour your car sat waiting might have caused some oil to drain back into the oil pan. So this engine start up is probably better than the other 2, but it is still not ideal.

[Badhobz]

to add to Traum's point, because being unable to reach operating temps, that accelerates the buildup of deposits on direct injected engines. At normal operating temps, the buildup is minimized due to the high temps, but its the cold start + low temps that causes buildup on the intake valves. Even toyota's D4S system (direct + port injected) isnt enough to mitigate all buildup (ive seen a few toyota borescopes that showed quite a bit of buildup even at 60,000 miles).

As for cold start, a heavier oil (fuck you toyota and your 0w8) will give more protection than a light weight oil, as more of the oil will "stick" to the metal. They keep saying the new oil addictive's mitigate this, but i dont fucking believe it. <--- see gm's "fix" with LS engines by using a heavier oil as remedy.

[trollface]

You guys worry way too much about this shit. When was the last time you drove or owned a car so long that the motor threw a rod or spun a bearing from day to day driving or even know someone that did becasue they drove to Starbuck too much?

Never, unless you own a Kia or Hundai

If you're that worried buy a pre-luber lol

[AstulzerRZD]

BMW been doing it since 2022 in iX.

[68style]

I’m in the “my 1zz spun a bearing from oil starvation at autocross” club

[bcrdukes]

Toyota trash! :buttrock:

[trollface]

I’m in the “my 1zz spun a bearing from oil starvation at autocross” club

Pan baffles have entered the chat.

[supafamous]

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a68851639/kia-soul-dead-2025/

Kia Soul being discontinued after selling about 1.5m units in the US. I never drove one but always thought it to be a cute and super practical car - the kind I would suggest to an outdoorsy friend or a city person on a budget. A stretched 3 row version of it would have been super rad or maybe an off-road themed one like an Element.

[RabidRat]

Kia sold 52,397 units in 2024, down 14 percent from 2023, and has moved 40,408 units through the third quarter of this year. Still, the Soul's totals last year were higher than several other Kia models; it was one of the three subcompact SUVs in Kia's lineup, beating the Niro by a healthy margin and nearly matching the Seltos, so its departure will leave a decent-sized hole in Kia's lineup.

Wth. Why is the Soul getting canceled when Niro isn't?? Seems like they're walking away from decent brand equity for no reason.

[EvoFire]

The Niro probably sells more elsewhere, and the Soul probably doesn't. On balance they probably get more ROI on a Niro than Soul.

[GLOW]

i've seen way more souls on the road around here than niros
i guess niros are more popular elsewhere

[bcrdukes]

Not the same but I've been seeing a LOT more Nissan Maximas on the road here in the GTA than I have in my entire life. WTF is going on?

[Badhobz]

are they all driven by indians or black guys?

[radeonboy]

I loved my Kia Soul EV - it was the perfect econobox bread van EV. Sad to see the model line go.

I had a plush hamster to go with mine - it still stays with me in the car as a memory.

https://i.ibb.co/MjqZtJX/Hammy-Cupholder-Medium.jpg

[AstulzerRZD]

Not the same but I've been seeing a LOT more Nissan Maximas on the road here in the GTA than I have in my entire life. WTF is going on?

Had to dig deep on reddit to find this post from like 10 years ago

Theres that area on the westbound 401 between the 427 and the 410, where you question your sanity, gazing into the weaving traffic, not a single signal light to be found.

People are going 10 under in the left lane and 50 over on the right shoulder. You're surrounded by dirty Nissan Altimas, with bad tint, blacked out tail lights, and spray painted rims. A beaten up mazda 3, now more rust than paint after 2 winters, just cut you off. You are now 2 km from the 410 north ramp. All the rusty dirty shitty cars are slamming their breaks and cutting to the right lane, still no signal lights.

You see a white crown Vic, thinking it's a cop, a savior. Only as you approach and the smell of burnt oil hits you, your hopes are dashed as realize it was a police auction surplus vehicle. They have their left signal on, but they're crossing into the right lane.

You see the off ramp sign. 410 north Brampton. You are approaching Brampton. It's almost over. Please let it be over. You must get past this off ramp. People in the left lane are now slamming on brakes, realizing they have 4 lanes of traffic to cross. You see all the Altimas, rusted Mazda 3's, 5's and a brown protege that used to be yellow, and police surplus vehicles miss the ramp by 4 meters, and immediately cut across the shoulder back on to the ramp. You are still in the left lane. The road ahead of you is finally serene, clear. No more smells, no more rust, no shitty spraypainted rims. You're finally safe.

[SSM_DC5]

it's Niro and Kona that are competitors isn't it?

[roastpuff]

it's Niro and Kona that are competitors isn't it?
Same car underneath

[SSM_DC5]

Right so with the Kona, why would kia need the Soul?

[radeonboy]

Right so with the Kona, why would kia need the Soul?

The Soul is boxier compared to the Kona and arguably sits a bit taller for passengers. I'm somewhat cramped in a Kona but fit comfortably inside the Soul.

[AstulzerRZD]

Right so with the Kona, why would kia need the Soul?

Because of poorer countries where owning a Kona is a status symbol - looks sportier, more premium.

The Soul only sells in North America, the EV only version in Europe, and a little bit of Mexico.

[red kryptonite]

You guys worry way too much about this shit. When was the last time you drove or owned a car so long that the motor threw a rod or spun a bearing from day to day driving or even know someone that did becasue they drove to Starbuck too much?

Never, unless you own a Kia or Hundai

If you're that worried buy a pre-luber lol
I’m with you on this one. Never really cared too much but the topic has come up more than usual lately so it’s been on my mind. Im not about to ask the gf to start taking a longer route from point A-B-C so the engine gets up to temp on every drive. Thats too much stress.

[underscore]

That doesn't make any sense to me either. Why increase your gas, insurance, and maintenance costs, while reducing your resale value, just in the hopes of increasing long-term reliability which likely isn't going to be during your ownership anyways?

[Badhobz]

^depends on the owners habits. I always keep my cars for a long long time (unless it’s a lease, then I treat it like a piece of shit). Even longer than anyone reasonably should. Thus long term reliability and proper engine maintenance are important to me

[red kryptonite]

Maybe if I had a brand new LC I would baby that shit too.

[bcrdukes]

I suppose if it's a lease, it may not matter as much since you're dropping it off at the dealership at the end of the term.

If we look at the luxury vehicle spectrum, you get bore scoring from Porsches, and this is a result of cold weather and/or a combination of driving short distances. The real sucker who suffers is the person who buys this car and realizes their engine is hooped.

[radeonboy]

.

[Badhobz]

Maybe if I had a brand new LC I would baby that shit too.

thats the funny part, the LC can probably take the abuse. NA/big displacement/lots of 5w30 oil (takes almost 8qts) = low strain /low heat on the internals. Your turbo charged engine however id probably baby a lot more.

[RabidRat]

Had to dig deep on reddit to find this post from like 10 years ago

Theres that area on the westbound 401 between the 427 and the 410, where you question your sanity, gazing into the weaving traffic, not a single signal light to be found.

People are going 10 under in the left lane and 50 over on the right shoulder. You're surrounded by dirty Nissan Altimas, with bad tint, blacked out tail lights, and spray painted rims. A beaten up mazda 3, now more rust than paint after 2 winters, just cut you off. You are now 2 km from the 410 north ramp. All the rusty dirty shitty cars are slamming their breaks and cutting to the right lane, still no signal lights.

You see a white crown Vic, thinking it's a cop, a savior. Only as you approach and the smell of burnt oil hits you, your hopes are dashed as realize it was a police auction surplus vehicle. They have their left signal on, but they're crossing into the right lane.

You see the off ramp sign. 410 north Brampton. You are approaching Brampton. It's almost over. Please let it be over. You must get past this off ramp. People in the left lane are now slamming on brakes, realizing they have 4 lanes of traffic to cross. You see all the Altimas, rusted Mazda 3's, 5's and a brown protege that used to be yellow, and police surplus vehicles miss the ramp by 4 meters, and immediately cut across the shoulder back on to the ramp. You are still in the left lane. The road ahead of you is finally serene, clear. No more smells, no more rust, no shitty spraypainted rims. You're finally safe.

Toronto drivers are the worst. LA level of aggressiveness, but with none of the skill ><.

[underscore]

^depends on the owners habits. I always keep my cars for a long long time (unless it’s a lease, then I treat it like a piece of shit). Even longer than anyone reasonably should. Thus long term reliability and proper engine maintenance are important to me

Do you drive any of them enough to actually rack up significant mileage though? What's the odo on the LC at these days?

[donk.]

Do you drive any of them enough to actually rack up significant mileage though? What's the odo on the LC at these days?

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQg_cvHwp1txPewNExa8StO2_RWA2IZD 3V_l1P33R8N5w&s=10

[Badhobz]

Do you drive any of them enough to actually rack up significant mileage though? What's the odo on the LC at these days?

no its pathetic, 10,400ish kms in 3 years. last year i only did 940kms

[bcrdukes]

I think the tolerances on Toyota/Lexus products are pretty good. There's a lot of forgiveness. Unlike Porsche. If you drove a Porsche with that kind of mileage, you'd be so screwed. This is where Toyota shines, despite how much we shit on them.

[AstulzerRZD]

I drove s2k like 30k km in a year lol - that was expensive with how much Motul the thing burns.

[Dbone]

I think the tolerances on Toyota/Lexus products are pretty good. There's a lot of forgiveness. Unlike Porsche. If you drove a Porsche with that kind of mileage, you'd be so screwed. This is where Toyota shines, despite how much we shit on them.

:noyoudidnt:

My 996 had ~200k and pulled strong. There's all sorts of old ass Porsches bombing around the island here, you can see them every (dry) weekend up in Qualicum.

People get so caught up in narratives.

[bcrdukes]

996 notwithstanding :D

I'm referring to more modern Porsches with bore scoring and all. The big difference for you folks on the island is you folks DRIVE your cars like they were meant to, and that makes a big difference.

The 986 and 996 have been very reliable for me (unlike my BMW ownership experience.) :inoutugh:

Final DE weekend of the year in two weeks. Can't wait to hit the rev counter many times overs! :D

[Badhobz]

yeah the old ones are fine. modern day porsches are stupid and the service cost is even more stupid.

700+ dollars for an oil change at the dealership? fuck you.

not being able to pick and choose maintenance but instead forced to buy packages? fuck you.

cant apply your own touch up paint, but instead forced to pay them 1000+ dollars to do a dab of touch up paint? fuck you.

[Dbone]

Final DE weekend of the year in two weeks. Can't wait to hit the rev counter many times overs! :D

Yeah, same here but at VIMC. I hope the weather holds.

[Traum]

If any of you local RS ballers needs to get your fancy beetle serviced -- SUVs and Taycans included -- I know a guy (who used to be a Porsche dealership tech for 20+ years) that has gone the indie route. He is supposed to be very good, and seems to really know his way around these fancy beetles.

[bcrdukes]

Post his shop here! :D

[noclue]

I've been noticing that the new Nissan Z (Well it's still based on the 370Z platform that debuted in 2009) is starting to be a performance bargain slightly used. Dropping to the $45-48K for the perfomance manual one with a 400HP twin turbo V6. I remember when the 350Z came out in 2003 it was like $50K back then no?

[Badhobz]

Nah back in 2003 it was 36k for base model. 42k for loaded.

[noclue]

Nah back in 2003 it was 36k for base model. 42k for loaded.

Im not sure, I know that in Canada Nissan only sold the top trim one with leather seats and ray wheels so it was hella expensive compared to the USA where they sold base models with cloth seats. Thats why we were importing 350Z from america like crazy when the dollar was at par.

[Badhobz]

I remember I really really wanted one and around 40k was bmw money at the time so I thought it was insanely expensive for a guy in college.

[EvoFire]

The 370Z dropped down to $29,990 for the final few years for the base. I still don't think it sold particularly well at that price despite being so close to the febreeze twins.

[noclue]

Yeah you're right. Maybe I was thinking about the G35 Coupe (GOAT design)
I just remember all the hot JDM cars in the 2000's were in the 45-55K range.
Either way it makes the new Z even cheaper if you factor in inflation.

[Gerbs]

I still want a G35 Coupe but probably wouldn't be as fun as it was when you're 16

[BIC_BAWS]

I've never heard febreeze twins.. but I love it LOL

[EvoFire]

Yeah you're right. Maybe I was thinking about the G35 Coupe (GOAT design)
I just remember all the hot JDM cars in the 2000's were in the 45-55K range.
Either way it makes the new Z even cheaper if you factor in inflation.

I dislike the styling of the new Z. I don't feel like the front end and the back end coordinate well. Feels like they took two cars and glued them together.

The 370Z styling imo has aged quite well, better than the 350Z. If they would have just put the 3.0T into the 370Z with some updates they could have saved even more money than retooling the build but still keeping the same chassis.

I still want a G35 Coupe but probably wouldn't be as fun as it was when you're 16

I've driven a G35 coupe and a G37xS sedan, they were both very underwhelming in terms of performance, especially in automatic. It makes a lot of noise but they don't go particularly fast. Maybe a stick would be better.

[Badhobz]

^Well you like beetles so your stylistic opinions are invalid

[Manic!]

Driving by the new Porsche dealership is sad. They have 3 white SUV's parked outside with a white 911 parked inside. Porsche lets you pick any colour but they chose white. But hey you can wrap it. resale spec sucks.

Imagine doing a PTS in this colour. Just to give a middle finger and to have a one of one colour.

https://www.pantone.com/media/color-finder/img/icons/pantone-color-icon-pq-448c.webp

[bcrdukes]

Stupid Porsche :fuckthatshit:

[EvoFire]

Driving by the new Porsche dealership is sad. They have 3 white SUV's parked outside with a white 911 parked inside. Porsche lets you pick any colour but they chose white. But hey you can wrap it. resale spec sucks.

Imagine doing a PTS in this colour. Just to give a middle finger and to have a one of one colour.

https://www.pantone.com/media/color-finder/img/icons/pantone-color-icon-pq-448c.webp

I want one in Underberg Green, but the regular pallette oak green looks pretty good.

[Traum]

The saddest thing about Porsches is -- back in 2015, the Macan started at Cdn $55k, and the Cayman at $60k. As a pleb, those are still numbers my brain can process, and I can somehow still trick myself into thinking that it's a stretch goal I can reach if I really try.

Fast forward to today, and the 718 Boxster / Cayman started at $79.5k before it was discontinued. And Macan starts at $73.5k. And realistically, you can't even get a stripper car like that bcos the dealership just won't let you. So you'll pretty much end up with a $90k+ Boxster / Cayman, which turns into a $100k+ affair after tax. And for the Macan, you're almost hitting the $100k mark as well after tax.

Like... WTF... If I were still a kid fresh out of ugrad nowadays, I'd just give up on being a car enthusiast too... :(

[bcrdukes]

Also to note, the prices you mentioned are to start. There's no chance any dealer will let you buy a base model, stripper spec with no additional dealer mark up and they would force you to add all the options making it a $150K car, and you drive away crying wishing you never liked cars. :D

[EvoFire]

The saddest thing about Porsches is -- back in 2015, the Macan started at Cdn $55k, and the Cayman at $60k. As a pleb, those are still numbers my brain can process, and I can somehow still trick myself into thinking that it's a stretch goal I can reach if I really try.

Fast forward to today, and the 718 Boxster / Cayman started at $79.5k before it was discontinued. And Macan starts at $73.5k. And realistically, you can't even get a stripper car like that bcos the dealership just won't let you. So you'll pretty much end up with a $90k+ Boxster / Cayman, which turns into a $100k+ affair after tax. And for the Macan, you're almost hitting the $100k mark as well after tax.

Like... WTF... If I were still a kid fresh out of ugrad nowadays, I'd just give up on being a car enthusiast too... :(

It's not just Porsche, but the M cars have made a similar upwards trajectory. The F80 started at 73k, mine came in at 90 before taxes. The F87 started at 63k iirc, and the M2C crept up to 68k, but there were almost no options for that car. I'd say the M2 is a pretty good equivalent to the Cayman, and the same M2 now in G87 guise is 86k to start. You are looking at 100k for a G87 out the door, the G80 M3 is well over 100k.

[Badhobz]

yeah but thats nothing.. stripper beetle is 220k out the door. like seriously, fuck those guys. how is it 100k better than the m3!?

[bcrdukes]

You forgot to mention the included service in the M3 for four years. :D

[Badhobz]

bascially at this point, if you dont buy a pig nose, you're a pig-nosed idiot.

[Manic!]

yeah but thats nothing.. stripper beetle is 220k out the door. like seriously, fuck those guys. how is it 100k better than the m3!?

Because according to the dealer as soon as you drive it off the lot it's worth 100k more.

[bcrdukes]

Porsche's stocks aren't doing so well, so they are going to have to pump out a bunch more GT3s to flood the market to make up for the numbers.

[EvoFire]

You forgot to mention the included service in the M3 for four years. :D

3 now. They reduced it for 2020

bascially at this point, if you dont buy a pig nose, you're a pig-nosed idiot.

But then you are stuck staring at that abomination.

Because according to the dealer as soon as you drive it off the lot it's worth 100k more.

Not anymore for anything that's not a GT Porsche. Porsche has backtracked so much in the last few years that nothing they say holds much water.

"We will never put backseats in a GT3."
992.2 GT3 Touring has optional backseats, not that I'm complaining

"EV is the future"
New midsize SUV with gas engines coming since Macan isn't selling
Cayman and Boxster will come with new ICE engines
Granted, it was the corporate VAG that probably forced their hand, but still

In terms of the 911, I'm waiting for the other shoe to drop with manuals. Right now only the T and GT3 comes in manual. I'm expecting the S to get a stick in 2 years.

[Badhobz]

Because according to the dealer as soon as you drive it off the lot it's worth 100k more.

not the base model's you aren't.. you'll lose money. 991's are under 100k already.

Only time you'll make money is if you buy a GT car.. but they want you to buy 2 macans. a cayenne and your unborn daughters virginity before they even consider you for such a privilege.

[bcrdukes]

Badhobz - you lied to me? :mad:

[EvoFire]

Waiting for Hobz to show us his 992.2 Turbo S

[Badhobz]

ill do a Japanese thing and commit ritual suicide in front of Porsche in protest.

[bcrdukes]

ill do a Japanese thing and commit ritual suicide in front of Porsche in protest.

Let me get you a Porsche sweater first.

[Gerbs]

Like... WTF... If I were still a kid fresh out of ugrad nowadays, I'd just give up on being a car enthusiast too... :(

Just wait till you see the after tax costs of entry level sporty cars

$40K Civic Base
$52K WRX
$13-21K 2016 civic base
$11K RSX-S @ 240,000KM


G35 priced well though

[Manic!]

not the base model's you aren't.. you'll lose money. 991's are under 100k already.

Only time you'll make money is if you buy a GT car.. but they want you to buy 2 macans. a cayenne and your unborn daughters virginity before they even consider you for such a privilege.

It was on one of the special GT models.

[Badhobz]

Just wait till you see the after tax costs of entry level sporty cars

$40K Civic Base
$52K WRX
$13-21K 2016 civic base
$11K RSX-S @ 240,000KM


G35 priced well though

That’s why the Miata base at 36k and gr86 at 36k are the Best Buys. The gti, at least mine was an amazing buy at 500 a month with zero down. Now no longer. It’s friggin 750 a month with similar terms right now

[Vancouver240sx]

According to the bank of canada inflation calculator 60k in 2015 is 77,6k today. Its the same money. Just costs more to borrow it.

Rich

[smoothie.]

Buy a Honda Accord, the best car in the world.

[noclue]

But then you are stuck staring at that abomination.

In terms of the 911, I'm waiting for the other shoe to drop with manuals. Right now only the T and GT3 comes in manual. I'm expecting the S to get a stick in 2 years.

First, did you just insult the beautiful pig nose?

Second, I read that the T-hybrid BS in the new beetle is incompatible with manual transmission so unlikely the S model will get manuals again

[Manic!]

Ferrari going EV.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3CKfHyABuo

[Dbone]

Also to note, the prices you mentioned are to start. There's no chance any dealer will let you buy a base model, stripper spec with no additional dealer mark up and they would force you to add all the options making it a $150K car, and you drive away crying wishing you never liked cars. :D

I don't think this is true. I think they still want numbers on things like the Macan. Having said that, I drove a base model 4banger Macan on Monday and while it was fine, I'd take the Audi and option it up for the same price. Unless you are a badge snob the Audi is probably 90% the same parts anyway.

bascially at this point, if you dont buy a pig nose, you're a pig-nosed idiot.

And why would you spend $120 on the pig nose when you can get the same engine and no pig nose for sub $100 with the M2.

:awwyeah:

[Badhobz]

cuz you need 4 doors and da piggy nose!

i dont know which i hate the looks of more, the current m2 or the pig nose. Its all so hard.

So far my car shopping came to these few contenders to replace hitlerbox + camry... i think its probably time to get rid of the camry too.

Toyota Sienna loaded to the tits : 1600 a month (fuck you toyota)

Lucid Air : they got some promo going on right now, lots of cash on the hood. 1100 a month

Pig nosed m3 in green + tan interior to make it look like my dear departed alfa quad that i never got a chance to own: 1600 a month

Lucid Gravity: not released yet, so i might wait for this and see how it goes since im on a mini van spreeeeee (no thanks to mikoyan and his honda Odyssey that made me lust even more for a van)

[bcrdukes]

Yeah, that Mikoyan guy, terrible influence. :troll:

[Dbone]

We've never met, but I don't know if you'd like the M3. Unless you have visions of the Nordschleife or at least the Ridge/Area 27 the suspension will piss you off after being in your LC.

[teggy604]

Just wait till you see the after tax costs of entry level sporty cars

$40K Civic Base
$52K WRX
$13-21K 2016 civic base
$11K RSX-S @ 240,000KM


G35 priced well though


I think kids have way more selection now than when I was a kid. Hondas like a Prelude, Civic sir, Integra GSR, RSX, Accord etc... Only thing expensive is the insurance.

When I was a kid golden era hondas were still new. If you wanted used, you can get American muscle, but that was about it.

[Badhobz]

We've never met, but I don't know if you'd like the M3. Unless you have visions of the Nordschleife or at least the Ridge/Area 27 the suspension will piss you off after being in your LC.

You’re absolutely right. Hence the mini vans are the way to go.

[whitev70r]

I don't think this is true. I think they still want numbers on things like the Macan. Having said that, I drove a base model 4banger Macan on Monday and while it was fine, I'd take the Audi and option it up for the same price. Unless you are a badge snob the Audi is probably 90% the same parts anyway.


What would be the Audi equivalent? Maybe the SQ5?

[EvoFire]

First, did you just insult the beautiful pig nose?

Second, I read that the T-hybrid BS in the new beetle is incompatible with manual transmission so unlikely the S model will get manuals again

Do you think the pig nose looks good? I honestly don't. The rest of the car is ok, if not a bit overstyled. Styling is subjective though. I think the G80 is darker colours is passable, I've softened my stance for "hate it" to "it's not good looking"

The T hybrid is only on the GTS, the S has the GTS motor from 992.1 so you can put a manual on it. The Carrera T really needs the S engine imo for it to be worthwhile.

And why would you spend $120 on the pig nose when you can get the same engine and no pig nose for sub $100 with the M2.

:awwyeah:

Cause then you'll have to deal with down syndrome tail lights.

https://r44performance.com/cdn/shop/files/MHC-Plus-BMW-G87-M2-Edition-1-Rear-Diffuser-In-Carbon-Fibre-11.jpg?v=1756540545&width=700
https://assets3.thrillist.com/v1/image/2618561/1200x856/scale;webp=auto;jpeg_quality=60.jpg

cuz you need 4 doors and da piggy nose!

i dont know which i hate the looks of more, the current m2 or the pig nose. Its all so hard.

So far my car shopping came to these few contenders to replace hitlerbox + camry... i think its probably time to get rid of the camry too.

Toyota Sienna loaded to the tits : 1600 a month (fuck you toyota)

Lucid Air : they got some promo going on right now, lots of cash on the hood. 1100 a month

Pig nosed m3 in green + tan interior to make it look like my dear departed alfa quad that i never got a chance to own: 1600 a month

Lucid Gravity: not released yet, so i might wait for this and see how it goes since im on a mini van spreeeeee (no thanks to mikoyan and his honda Odyssey that made me lust even more for a van)

I would wait till year two of the Gravity before getting it.

We've never met, but I don't know if you'd like the M3. Unless you have visions of the Nordschleife or at least the Ridge/Area 27 the suspension will piss you off after being in your LC.

The G80 honestly isn't that bad in comfort mode. it's just a really fast 3 series. Put some CC3 on it and Hobz will be happy as a clam.

[Badhobz]

Is that a Down syndrome tiger ?!!!? You’ve made my day.

[Gerbs]

According to the bank of canada inflation calculator 60k in 2015 is 77,6k today. Its the same money. Just costs more to borrow it.

Rich

2010 $1 is $1.41 in 2025

why's my mcdouble $3+ FeelsBadMan

[Gerbs]

I think kids have way more selection now than when I was a kid. Hondas like a Prelude, Civic sir, Integra GSR, RSX, Accord etc... Only thing expensive is the insurance.

When I was a kid golden era hondas were still new. If you wanted used, you can get American muscle, but that was about it.

2010-2015 was a golden era

S2000's - $10-20K
Prelude - $1-7k
GSR - $4-6k
RSX / Type S- $1-4K
Accord V6 - $1-15K
240sx - $500

The above cars don't really exist anymore, because nobody will pay $10-40K+ for a 200-300,000KM one.

[Dbone]

What would be the Audi equivalent? Maybe the SQ5?

Price wise that's exactly right and the SQ5 is larger, WAY faster, probably cheaper to run, and the engine is much nicer. Plus instead of feeling like a poser Porsche nerd, you're a baller Audi guy.

[whitev70r]

I'm a nerdy Audi guy.

[AstulzerRZD]

The Lucid Air while amazing, is similar in spirit to the LC.
There old school GTs that are also great to drive.

The ID buzz or G80 would be a substantially different experience.
What about the new M5 touring?

[roastpuff]

I think kids have way more selection now than when I was a kid. Hondas like a Prelude, Civic sir, Integra GSR, RSX, Accord etc... Only thing expensive is the insurance.

When I was a kid golden era hondas were still new. If you wanted used, you can get American muscle, but that was about it.

Sir have you checked the used prices on these????????? :rukidding:

A Prelude goes for $10-15K! Or more for a SH etc.

A Civic SIR is similar, if it's not clapped out to death and on its last legs.

RSX starts at 5K for one with 300,000KM on it.

Integras might as well be made out of gold with how much they cost.

Accords are cheap... if you don't want a V6 manual.

EDIT: Suggestion for Hobz - Polestar 3 and Polestar 4 are leasing for like 699(?) a month for a year if you want a short term stopgap.

[noclue]

cuz you need 4 doors and da piggy nose!

i dont know which i hate the looks of more, the current m2 or the pig nose. Its all so hard.

So far my car shopping came to these few contenders to replace hitlerbox + camry... i think its probably time to get rid of the camry too.

Toyota Sienna loaded to the tits : 1600 a month (fuck you toyota)

Lucid Air : they got some promo going on right now, lots of cash on the hood. 1100 a month

Pig nosed m3 in green + tan interior to make it look like my dear departed alfa quad that i never got a chance to own: 1600 a month

Lucid Gravity: not released yet, so i might wait for this and see how it goes since im on a mini van spreeeeee (no thanks to mikoyan and his honda Odyssey that made me lust even more for a van)

Sienna waste of money leasing, just buy it cash if lease rate is that much.
My vote is pig nose BUT in automatic. If it's too uncomfortable the M340i is quite decent as well.


Do you think the pig nose looks good? I honestly don't. The rest of the car is ok, if not a bit overstyled. Styling is subjective though. I think the G80 is darker colours is passable, I've softened my stance for "hate it" to "it's not good looking"



It's like a pug, you revolt when you first see it then you eventually think its cool. You can get the CSL grill which does help soften the pig nose lol

[bcrdukes]

I am loving the pig nose design.

[Badhobz]

dem VW buzz deals are pretty good at 21k off.... but not sure if i wanna spend cash on it and buy it outright. first year german + ev !??!?! what can possibly go wrong.

[AstulzerRZD]

It's fine cuz it's been in EU for a couple years.
They just took a minute to release the long wheelbase version.

[Mikoyan]

cuz you need 4 doors and da piggy nose!

i dont know which i hate the looks of more, the current m2 or the pig nose. Its all so hard.

So far my car shopping came to these few contenders to replace hitlerbox + camry... i think its probably time to get rid of the camry too.

Toyota Sienna loaded to the tits : 1600 a month (fuck you toyota)

Lucid Air : they got some promo going on right now, lots of cash on the hood. 1100 a month

Pig nosed m3 in green + tan interior to make it look like my dear departed alfa quad that i never got a chance to own: 1600 a month

Lucid Gravity: not released yet, so i might wait for this and see how it goes since im on a mini van spreeeeee (no thanks to mikoyan and his honda Odyssey that made me lust even more for a van)


Did I tell you the Ody has paddle shifters for some reason? Sport mode lets it sit in a quasi Manual mode. Using them in normal give you 10 seconds in manual mode.

[Traum]

I don't think this is true. I think they still want numbers on things like the Macan. Having said that, I drove a base model 4banger Macan on Monday and while it was fine, I'd take the Audi and option it up for the same price. Unless you are a badge snob the Audi is probably 90% the same parts anyway.
Obviously different people will have different preferences, but I've driven the 4-banger Macan on many occassions, and found it to drive/handle noticeably better than the Q5. The suspension tuning is a lot more athletic without being harsh (unless you are on the ridiculous 21" wheels). And somehow the drivetrain seems more alert / responsive to the Q5 as well.

I suppose you can call me as a badge snob for Porsche. But I honestly find their cars to be more a lot more engaging than Audi's. (I have yet to drive a TT or TTRS.)

I think kids have way more selection now than when I was a kid. Hondas like a Prelude, Civic sir, Integra GSR, RSX, Accord etc... Only thing expensive is the insurance.

When I was a kid golden era hondas were still new. If you wanted used, you can get American muscle, but that was about it.
I'm surprised you'd say that!

Back in the golden era, it wasn't just Hondas that were fun. Off the top of my head, these were all the fun / cool cars from the era that weren't too expensive (when brand new):

Honda: Civic, Integra, Prelude, RSX
Toyota: Celica
Nissan: Sentra SE-R, 240SX
Mazda: 323 / Protege, Miata
Subaru: 2.5RS

Even the domestics had some fun stuff:

Ford: Escort GT (shared platform with 323 / Protege), Probe, Mustang
Chrysler: Neon
Chevrolet: Camaro

VW: Golf, Corrado

Bimmers start to get expensive, so I won't count them in.

Nowadays, the only affordable fun car I can think of are the GR86 / BRZ and Miata. Almost everything else became boring to drive.

[AstulzerRZD]

My only counterpoint is that back in the day, non-sporty cars REALLY sucked to drive.
That's no longer the case now... when even a Camry drives pretty sporty.

A few cars from each brand I've had fun driving, priced similar to Civic Si:

Toyota: GR86
Subaru: BRZ
Nissan: 400Z (9-10k factory incentive)
Mazda: MX-5
Ford: Mach-E GT, Ecoboost (S650 drives good now), and GT (49k with employee pricing)
FCA: last model year Giulia, Charger Daytona
VW: Hobz' GTI was 500/mo

[Badhobz]

i think that new mustang is severely underrated. if i wasn't such a retard, id probably look into it. along with the cadillac CT4 Blackwing .. need me some magnride suspension. stupid donks vette had me hooked.

[AstulzerRZD]

Honestly, I didn't believe the S650 would be good because my S550s were TERRIBLE.
Absolute garbage suspensions, transmissions, etc.

S650 was largely carryover.
Their transmission fixes + suspension retune worked wonders.

[Badhobz]

im gonna probably hold out for the gravity or wait for the sienna rates to drop. I dont wanna buy it outright because i get a slush fund for a company car, its 1200 a month. whatever i dont use i get to keep so usually i just lease the cheapest piece of shit and pocket the rest. too bad its taxed, so its more like 600 bucks a month.

[EvoFire]

1200/m for a company car.
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[roastpuff]

wtf $1200 for a company car. Jealous.

Also dude why you need a minivan, you have a secret second family somewhere??

[bcrdukes]

To support his Costco addiction!

[Badhobz]

i love vans man. Especially luxury vans. I really want that lexus LM but since they wont bring it here, i might have to retrofit my sienna to make it semi LM like.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005009363379662.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.main.1 .644969c1czZ0Kl&algo_pvid=a51d48a9-7463-4424-b658-e3c368b331de&algo_exp_id=a51d48a9-7463-4424-b658-e3c368b331de-0&pdp_ext_f=%7B%22order%22%3A%22-1%22%2C%22eval%22%3A%221%22%2C%22fromPage%22%3A%22 search%22%7D&pdp_npi=6%40dis%21CAD%211286.39%211286.39%21%21%21 6438.38%216438.38%21%402101c59517600353564702953ea b8a%2112000048871591399%21sea%21CA%212218185347%21 X%211%210%21n_tag%3A-29919%3Bd%3Aa7dc7bee%3Bm03_new_user%3A-29895&curPageLogUid=w7BhxXJlEhJU&utparam-url=scene%3Asearch%7Cquery_from%3A%7Cx_object_id%3 A1005009363379662%7C_p_origin_prod%3A

Plus i can empty it, throw in a mattress and a cassette toliet and drive it to calgary to see 69stylez (will empty cassette toilet at his house).

[AstulzerRZD]

That sounds about right, I used to get 1k USD + insurance.
Tolls and gas weren't included.

[Badhobz]

we used to get insurance.. i was able to even claim snow tires before, but not anymore. and they havent increased this company car amount for 5+ years now. lame!!!

CN was the best. not only did i get a company car, but i got a fuel card (i wouldnt wanna pay for gas on a ford exploader) and they had fleet insurance for the car so i didnt even need to bother with insurance.... and since it was a CN car, any tickets you got went directly towards CN. I used to park it all over the place, didnt give a shit about tickets and it was all taken care of.

[noclue]

i love vans man. Especially luxury vans. I really want that lexus LM but since they wont bring it here, i might have to retrofit my sienna to make it semi LM like.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005009363379662.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.main.1 .644969c1czZ0Kl&algo_pvid=a51d48a9-7463-4424-b658-e3c368b331de&algo_exp_id=a51d48a9-7463-4424-b658-e3c368b331de-0&pdp_ext_f=%7B%22order%22%3A%22-1%22%2C%22eval%22%3A%221%22%2C%22fromPage%22%3A%22 search%22%7D&pdp_npi=6%40dis%21CAD%211286.39%211286.39%21%21%21 6438.38%216438.38%21%402101c59517600353564702953ea b8a%2112000048871591399%21sea%21CA%212218185347%21 X%211%210%21n_tag%3A-29919%3Bd%3Aa7dc7bee%3Bm03_new_user%3A-29895&curPageLogUid=w7BhxXJlEhJU&utparam-url=scene%3Asearch%7Cquery_from%3A%7Cx_object_id%3 A1005009363379662%7C_p_origin_prod%3A

Plus i can empty it, throw in a mattress and a cassette toliet and drive it to calgary to see 69stylez (will empty cassette toilet at his house).

Driving that anemic sienna from sea level to calgary will be my nightmare. Rather stick with odyssey. Plus the sienna the seats dont go into the floor cause of the battery no?

[Badhobz]

Driving that anemic sienna from sea level to calgary will be my nightmare. Rather stick with odyssey. Plus the sienna the seats dont go into the floor cause of the battery no?

youre talking about the rear seats? i dont know about the latest sienna, but the old ones folded into the floor. The 2nd row never did, but you could take them out easy enough.

Best seats for utility are those pacifica/caravan stow and go seats. you could fold them all into the floor but they were paper thin and uncomfortable for passengers.

[Traum]

My only counterpoint is that back in the day, non-sporty cars REALLY sucked to drive.
That's no longer the case now... when even a Camry drives pretty sporty.

Those old Civics were so much fun to drive! EG / EK, and by extension Integras as well.

And something new cars can't hold a candle to against the old cars are -- the old cars are so light, and that makes them super agile. Never mind the fact that they are tin can death traps if you ever get into an accident, but new cars can't really replicate that.

[BIC_BAWS]

i think that new mustang is severely underrated. if i wasn't such a retard, id probably look into it. along with the cadillac CT4 Blackwing .. need me some magnride suspension. stupid donks vette had me hooked.

With a $1200 allowance you should get a CT5-V Blackwing instead... right?? right??


well I spec'd one out to the tits and somehow built a 200K Cadillac wtf. I accidentally spec'd it with auto, but I somehow imagine you'd want a 10-speed auto over a manual anyway, with the 6.2L SC V8.

https://i.imgur.com/0mu1eAw.png

https://i.imgur.com/TaduoyB.png

https://i.imgur.com/vMr55tC.png

https://i.imgur.com/vkpGFVY.png

Anyway.. a stripper spec is only.. $982 biweekly..

[red kryptonite]

Hobz has too many reliable cars. You need some excitement in your life, come join us over here at bmw.

[AstulzerRZD]

Let's crowd fund a mirror for the guy

Look at yourself in the mirror and back to your Granturismo owning days dammit!! why the fuck are we looking at rattly minivans with a cooler lmao.

Just buy a cooler off amazon and put in whatever the fuck else you buy.

[EvoFire]

Keep in mind, it's a taxable benefit. 1200/m most likely means it's less than 600/m after deductions. I don't know if Hobz can write it off on his taxes, I'm going to guess no.

The Hitler box is realisitcally how much he can do without it coming out of pocket.

[bcrdukes]

Rich people don't pay taxes.

[Badhobz]

^correcto. at 500-600 bucks i dont have to pay squat. The rest is an extravagance i dont need or want.

I mean if i wanted speed, comfort and convertible the LC does that.
If i want novacane on wheels and have my soul ripped out of me while commuting, the camry does that very well.

That leaves an empty hole for shitboxes, weird things, and useless voids that really do not require filling. A minivan does it. Will I move things? fuck no. its just like i installed a $1200 trailer hitch for my wifes RX and havent used it a single time... i had the intention of towing a trailer, or a little crabbing boat... never happened.. dont think it'll happen now either. I wont carry people either because i hate fucking people. all these old geezers can go die, they arent coming in my MAXI VAN.

Im gonna fold down the rear seats, replace 2nd row with aliexpress sofa's, install a TV with and my firestick, and then game in the back of my van with my refrigerator filled with cool drinks and that vacuum attached to my dick.

So if you got a weird suggestion, something quirky, retarded, and insane. post it up.

I had looked even stranger things today.

F150 lightning (meh, not that cheap to lease, but also not that expensive... might be fun for 10 minutes but then hard to park in my downtown office)

Fiat500e - its so cheap why not buy 3 and crash 2 of them into biffanys house? whos biffany? A FUCKING REAL CUNTBAG thats who.

Let's crowd fund a mirror for the guy

Look at yourself in the mirror and back to your Granturismo owning days dammit!! why the fuck are we looking at rattly minivans with a cooler lmao.

Just buy a cooler off amazon and put in whatever the fuck else you buy.

https://platform.vox.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/chorus/uploads/chorus_asset/file/22481517/Dawson.gif

[roastpuff]

Polestar 3 at 655 a month. Go for Scandinavian weirdness.

[68style]

Oh he will have a Scandinavian pole star alright... in his van

[teggy604]

I'm surprised you'd say that!

Back in the golden era, it wasn't just Hondas that were fun. Off the top of my head, these were all the fun / cool cars from the era that weren't too expensive (when brand new):

Honda: Civic, Integra, Prelude, RSX
Toyota: Celica
Nissan: Sentra SE-R, 240SX
Mazda: 323 / Protege, Miata
Subaru: 2.5RS

Even the domestics had some fun stuff:

Ford: Escort GT (shared platform with 323 / Protege), Probe, Mustang
Chrysler: Neon
Chevrolet: Camaro

VW: Golf, Corrado

Bimmers start to get expensive, so I won't count them in.

Nowadays, the only affordable fun car I can think of are the GR86 / BRZ and Miata. Almost everything else became boring to drive.


Yup. You are right.

I thought about picking up a cheap Neon SRT-4 back then. Cheap fun with tons of potential. Always remembered the WRX vs SRT-4 commerical haha

Also 2001-2005 Nissan Sentra SER Spec V was also a fun little car that not many ppl knew about.

[Klondike]

https://www.theautopian.com/volvo-is-down-to-just-one-wagon/

RIP V90 wagon. There's one T6 R-design locally in bursting blue metallic that's absolutely gorgeous.

They've also depreciated like rocks, if you want the looks of the RS6 for less than half the price.

[whitev70r]

I've always thought V90 was a tad big. I think V60 is the perfect long roof! Like this:

https://www.vivaperformance.com/product_images/uploaded_images/heicosportiv-v60-front.jpg

but then my bias is obvious ... whitev70r

[roastpuff]

V90 proportions are odd. V60 proportions are better IMO.

[underscore]

The cheapest thing you can get new is a Versa for $352/mo. That'd leave a lot for the AliExpress mod fund.

[Badhobz]

i was looking at the sentra with a manual transmission last night after you said versa. it might be good to reconnect with my younger self.

Might go get it wrapped in jewish racing gold, lower it, and then hang out at a KFC parking lot ready to pound a brown guy who steals my parking spot.

[68style]

Does pound still mean punch/beat up in this instance or is Badhobz of today ready to play for the other team?

[Badhobz]

thats gay.

[trollface]

It's only a taxable benefit if you get caught.

Lots of ppl i know drive around in "taxable" benefits cars lol

[bcrdukes]

i was looking at the sentra with a manual transmission last night after you said versa. it might be good to reconnect with my younger self.

Might go get it wrapped in jewish racing gold, lower it, and then hang out at a KFC parking lot ready to pound a brown guy who steals my parking spot.

Does pound still mean punch/beat up in this instance or is Badhobz of today ready to play for the other team?

Next opponent: Manmeet Singh :badpokerface:

[Badhobz]

It's only a taxable benefit if you get caught.

Lots of ppl i know drive around in "taxable" benefits cars lol

what sort of shaddy ass organization do you work for facetroll? our accounting cunts automatically count it in as a taxable benefit so you cant even not declare it.

I guess youre talking about realtors and shit, but we all know they are crooks.

[whitev70r]

Does anyone know what the hell these are? Seeing more and more of them ... are they a brown people thing? Looks like fuzzy ballz.

https://signalhfx.ca/wp-content/uploads/2024/12/ParandaTassels.jpg

[bcrdukes]

Very common here in the GTA among the Indian diaspora.

Someone explained to me it's some kind of thing to ward off bad juju or something along those lines.

[Traum]

Does anyone know what the hell these are? Seeing more and more of them ... are they a brown people thing? Looks like fuzzy ballz.
I see it all the time, and somehow it annoys the heck outta me.

To my uneducated eyes, these absolutely look like a fuzzy dildo + ballz. But most people seem to hang 2 in the front like the picture above. So do they want to have 2 dicks?
:pokerface:

[bcrdukes]

That is some very creative thinking hahaha

[Badhobz]

summoning resident brown guy MANIC!!!!!!!! the fucking paneer is this shit!?

makes as much sense as white guy truck balls, and chinese guys hanging "safety" charms in their rear view mirrors.

[BIC_BAWS]

Does anyone know what the hell these are?

It's an indication of a horrible driver on the road.. just like the "NO FARMERS NO FOOD" banner.. usually an awful driver and will probably cut you off/run you off the road bc they drive with no due caution. "PB _ _" license plates are also a pretty good indicator.

[RabidRat]

go get it wrapped in jewish racing gold

Why is this not a thing??

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/81GcNznZeRL._AC_SL1500_.jpg

Seems maximally garish. Love it.

[roastpuff]

Why is this not a thing??

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/81GcNznZeRL._AC_SL1500_.jpg

Seems maximally garish. Love it.

It’s a thing. There’s a guy in Burnaby that has his cars wrapped like that.

[Mikoyan]

It’s a thing. There’s a guy in Burnaby that has his cars wrapped like that.

I've seen a chrome wrap like that all the time on Canada Way near Boundary. I've always assumed its the owner of the Hookah Lounge there.

[Badhobz]

i think you need to be a habibibib to do that wrap. Limited to rich shawarma only. Cost of those chrome wraps are quite high vs traditional wraps and they last like 1/2 the time too.

[noclue]

Does anyone know what the hell these are? Seeing more and more of them ... are they a brown people thing? Looks like fuzzy ballz.

https://signalhfx.ca/wp-content/uploads/2024/12/ParandaTassels.jpg

There’s gotta be an instance where that rope gets caught on something and rips out the front bumper.

[Manic!]

summoning resident brown guy MANIC!!!!!!!! the fucking paneer is this shit!?

makes as much sense as white guy truck balls, and chinese guys hanging "safety" charms in their rear view mirrors.

I had no Idea so I looked it up.

https://i.ibb.co/F4x7y8kR/hind.webp

They are also used by women as hair extensions like these gold ones.

https://i.etsystatic.com/39415208/r/il/36fd59/5234243759/il_1588xN.5234243759_sydl.jpg

https://i.etsystatic.com/11449796/r/il/ee800c/3949868087/il_1588xN.3949868087_hdon.jpg

[bcrdukes]

I am disappointed in you, Manic!

[68style]

Is Manic even brown anymore?

[Mikoyan]

Well no shit they're getting the evil eye if they're driving through the oncoming traffic lane on 49th to jump the left turn lane to Granville st, almost sideswiping me in the process.

[bcrdukes]

Is Manic even brown anymore?

Judging by his avatar, no. :lol

[Manic!]

You know what grinds my gears. When you see a facebook ad for a car and it's says nearby but you see 2 more adds for the same car in different cities. When you message the person they tell you it's in a different city.

Crazy how much the Bentley Bentayga has dropped in price. You can get 2019 for less than 100K. The Rolls royce Cullinan on the other hand has done much better.

[GS8]

Nah back in 2003 it was 36k for base model. 42k for loaded.

A friend of mine at the time bought a black 2003, brand new and it was $50k. He sent me the papers on MSN messenger. There might have been some markup, I can't remember.

He was a gold-collar worker (remember that term?) and he was only able to fund the downpayment by selling HIS MOM'S Corolla.

He ended up doing roids, being a compulsive liar and got some FOB pregnant who then tried to take the baby back to her motherland (this is actually true).

I got away from that dumpster fire.

[mikemhg]

Manic isn't a real brown, he's a coconut :)

You can't grow up on Vancouver Island and not be a little white inside.

[bcedhk]

https://www.facebook.com/share/1XsXKp6r8A/

Who tf are buying these? I could see them being popular for habibi's in the UAE.

[68style]

^ front end of that car:

https://media.tenor.com/v_yJIceKc_0AAAAM/bart-simpson.gif

[AstulzerRZD]

Yes Armada Nismo is for UAE.

QX80 is for highland park moms who think getting a QX makes them classier/more interesting than Escalade/Yukon Denali buyers.

[EvoFire]

I want a set for my winter setup
https://scontent.fcxh3-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/559702303_10232754623741912_8707833490242102334_n. jpg?stp=dst-jpg_s600x600_tt6&_nc_cat=1&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=aa7b47&_nc_ohc=zeXAT_QcAuMQ7kNvwEJYcEn&_nc_oc=AdkQwpVZ94bwZXXW_FXzK64RBlQEyrGhA3rMEwtVLHt GQi9lFneGOUFrKfXvxngpSdjP7G7dJOwiUeB8GgTWaFdQ&_nc_zt=23&_nc_ht=scontent.fcxh3-1.fna&_nc_gid=eP3PvCwozhUWY0R1S7Njhw&oh=00_AfdOhlH9WNgF3U2lxlfaJYeWDB9V-sE8g9e5_hCtymgK7A&oe=68F5E839

[Badhobz]

I don’t get it. I don’t have any hot wheels.

[bcrdukes]

Because Lexus is boring and they suck! :fuckyea:

[68style]

I don’t get it. I don’t have any hot wheels.

I was going to call you a liar, but I guess the LC500 you got was a Matchbox.

These same wheels are on a line of HotWheels called "ultra hots" and have been around since the 80's

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/810EydCx9hL._AC_SY879_.jpg

[Badhobz]

hot wheels are so ghetto they dont even give you the little toy wheels done in the proper car's style!?!?! at least matchbox wheels match the real car

[68style]

Depends on the series, they do… and they’re owned by the same company (Mattel) haha

[AstulzerRZD]

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a69046535/2026-ford-mustang-ecoboost-coupe-rtr-package-revealed/

I love the new 2.3 Ecoboost - only 4 cyl that drives like a big torquey 6.

Pretty cool that they added a package for:

- Rolling antilag using the EGR system, up to 3 seconds off throttle
- More travel, revised magneride dampers and stability control to make drifting easier
- Electronic drift handbrake
- 6 and 4 pot Brembos from Dark Horse

Really surprised they did this since the standard mustang sold less than the Mach-E.

[68style]

One of the worst sounding cars on the market

[Dbone]

Sounds like not a bad idea... except it's still is over 3800lbs. So... FailFish

[Badhobz]

One of the worst sounding cars on the market

Also this generation mustang looks a lot worse than the last one. Not even sure why, but the front is very meh … those weird air intakes looks stupid. Spec wise I approve though. That 5.0L v8 is basically the same spec as my ratrolla v8, almost the same rpm redline too… on a 60k car !!! Like half the price of a ratrolla 90% of the engine. Yah you don’t have the Yamaha heads, but at that price who cares. You get a manual too!!! What a bargain

[AstulzerRZD]

One of the worst sounding cars on the market

ya the ecoboost has FACTORY drone! the rental i had was very annoying

[bcrdukes]

That 5.0L v8 is basically the same spec as my ratrolla v8, almost the same rpm redline too… on a 60k car !!!

I've always been curious about the 5.0L Ford engines. Great value, but are they reliable and stand the test of time? (My assumption is yes.)

[AstulzerRZD]

The problem is the trans (Getrag and 10R) more than the engine.

5.0 is quite reliable but latest gen has a wet belt driven oil pump.
Ford says they needed it so the pump doesn't blow up with 700hp+.
Mechanics said the previous versions of this wet belt thing blew up in the 1.0

[Great68]

The earlier gen Coyotes used a crank driven oil pump, but they used powdered metal gears. They are perfectly fine for a stock engine, the issue comes when people put belt driven superchargers on them, which puts extra stress on the front of the motor and the gears. There are aftermarket billet gears available that fix the problem.

The coyote is a crazy platform, this guy is running 6.04's in the 1/4 (~3000RWHP) with a stock block and mostly stock GT350 (Voodoo) heads.

https://youtu.be/tOBNk3OndKA?t=1336

So far 11 years and 110,000kms the 5.0 in my F150 (and several thousand of that towing my trailer) has been pretty bulletproof.

[bcrdukes]

I am curious because I came across Factory Five for their replica Cobras and you can throw in a Ford 5.0 or a bunch of different configurations.

A complete car that brings smiles for many miles is far cheaper than a Porsche, so that got me thinking. :suspicious:

[Great68]

Been done, it's AWESOME:

https://youtu.be/i3cZwn0nA5Y?t=37

[bcrdukes]

yeah, that's it!

Sweet car but not great for Vancouver haha

[Badhobz]

honestly that ford 5.0 is pretty epic. Like the GM LS motor, its just good, wholesome, cheap power. Too bad its kinda fugly, otherwise its a helluva bargin

[bcrdukes]

Just for you, Badhobz.

Ex-Porsche man returns home after stint at Ferrari and McLaren (https://www.evo.co.uk/porsche/208222/ex-porsche-man-returns-home-after-stint-at-ferrari-and-mclaren)

Michael Leiters, the ex-McLaren CEO named as new boss of Porsche


From the article: The Volkswagen Group has confirmed that Blume has signed a new agreement keeping him in the role as CEO of the VW Group until the end of 2030.

[Badhobz]

its weird how this guy was able to hold two ceo positions at once for all these years. seems like a huge conflict of interest.

[Manic!]

In the early 80's 10 waiters from the Keg in Vancouver started a supercar company with a 10 million dollar grant from the goverment.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MhCGEmCKyVM

[roastpuff]

If you guys were to get an Audi R8 V8 (1st gen) would you pay the manual tax for the gated shifter, or settle for the R-Tronic (single clutch automated manual).

[68style]

Manual, I drove an auto V8 R8 and it was mind-numbingly boring in sound and performance. I would assume the manual would make it much more lively feeling.

[bcrdukes]

Sounds like the perfect car for Badhobz. :derp:

[Badhobz]

im just gonna drive my camry into the ground and add a shit load of junction produce VIP crap.. will have a gay ass crystal chandelier in the back swinging around knocking people in the face. Gurpreets everywhere is gonna be like FUCKKKKK BAAAALLLLAAAHHHH when i roll up with my white 2010 lexus ES350 .

https://www.thevipcartel.com/cdn/shop/files/Copy_of_L-tide_39.png?v=1719651719&width=1445

[noclue]

If you guys were to get an Audi R8 V8 (1st gen) would you pay the manual tax for the gated shifter, or settle for the R-Tronic (single clutch automated manual).

It eats the clutch and breaks down often too. The facelift one comes with dual clutch and much better apparently.