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Old 01-12-2016, 10:45 AM   #126
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looks like a huge shit show in France with the migrants breaking into the trucks to get a free ride into Britain


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^^ i say this justify the truck drivers to tease these or simply shoot them with machine guns.
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^^ i say this justify the truck drivers to tease these or simply shoot them with machine guns.
Mr.HappySilp do you condemn Canada for sending terrorists into Syria where some of these refugees have been displaced from?
Then your feelings should be that these foot travelers deserve escorts, money for food and shelter, to ease them of their plight.

Or do you turn a blind eye... because if its not brown brainwashed mercenaries overthrowing free nations, it would mean Canadian, U.S., NATO and other Commonwealth soldiers would have to take ISIL's place... maybe even have you or your future son drafted in a major world war.

Maybe unconsciously, members support ISIL and just hope none of that "dirt?" washes up in our clean civilized, ultra moralistic countries like Canada,
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Mr.HappySilp do you condemn Canada for sending terrorists into Syria where some of these refugees have been displaced from?
Then your feelings should be that these foot travelers deserve escorts, money for food and shelter, to ease them of their plight.

Or do you turn a blind eye... because if its not brown brainwashed mercenaries overthrowing free nations, it would mean Canadian, U.S., NATO and other Commonwealth soldiers would have to take ISIL's place... maybe even have you or your future son drafted in a major world war.

Maybe unconsciously, members support ISIL and just hope none of that "dirt?" washes up in our clean civilized, ultra moralistic countries like Canada,
Since most ppl drive I would assume you would too. Let me ask you how would you feel if some strangers (not just one but a few) start banging on your car while you stop at a red light and start kicking your car as well? Would you feel Oh well these ppl might be just bums looking for change or food? And are you ok with them damaging your car that you spend your savings on? Also you will have to pay for the damage they cause. If people on the highway weave at you needing a ride would you let them in your ride when their clothes are wet and dirty and you run the risk of being mug rob, injury or kill by the person you just pick up?

Coz I know I won't and I am pretty sure most ppl won't as well. So should these truck drivers deserve this? Why should they give ppl free ride? Why should they put their lives in danger (you never know what if one of these refugee will kill you or hurt you). And why should they allow other to just damage their trucks? Or their company's truck (they might lose their job for this). I see that these refugee are damaging other people's property with no regards and even harm these truck drivers. If anyone try this shit with my property or my family I sure will do whatever it takes to make them stop and that's including putting a bullet in their head.
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Since most ppl drive I would assume you would too. Let me ask you how would you feel if some strangers (not just one but a few) start banging on your car while you stop at a red light and start kicking your car as well? Would you feel Oh well these ppl might be just bums looking for change or food? And are you ok with them damaging your car that you spend your savings on? Also you will have to pay for the damage they cause. If people on the highway weave at you needing a ride would you let them in your ride when their clothes are wet and dirty and you run the risk of being mug rob, injury or kill by the person you just pick up?
Whats the point of this... refugees are trying to hitch a ride with the trucks... people were angry because he tried to run them over. A truck cant come to a stop like a car can. Had one of these men tripped to the ground, his life would be smeared across the concrete like red paint.

You speak as if its some disaster\drug zombie apocalypse has happened and people are so desperate that they'd kill the driver so that they'd get better meals, tents, and blankets in the next country.

Also you speak as if the truck drivers livelihood is at stake for having to pay for his "damaged" truck. Thats what insurance is for and Im sure mandatory for trucks on the road... boohoo.

Your comment of using a machine gun on them just reeks of all the sheeple hate thats so hip to throw at the refugees right now.

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Coz I know I won't and I am pretty sure most ppl won't as well. So should these truck drivers deserve this? Why should they give ppl free ride? Why should they put their lives in danger (you never know what if one of these refugee will kill you or hurt you). And why should they allow other to just damage their trucks? Or their company's truck (they might lose their job for this). I see that these refugee are damaging other people's property with no regards and even harm these truck drivers. If anyone try this shit with my property or my family I sure will do whatever it takes to make them stop and that's including putting a bullet in their head.
Why should the driver deserve this? He lives in a ZioAmerican puppet state (aka NATO) which helped create and still supports ISIS... was the truck driver expecting to live in a stable and noble country? Do you.. knowing we back the killing of Ukrainians, having skyrocketing housing, devalued currency... its time members blame the powers that be then flex their mental muscles on destitute humans displaced by war and economic depression engineered by the west.
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If you watch the full video of the 2nd footage you will have know that these refugees are breaking to the the back of trucks and getting in. That is a not the same as trying to ask nicely for a ride. They are damaging someone else property. I don't care if you walk 10milies already. Just ask any RS member here if some hobo try to that to their ride are they just going to let it slide or beat the crap out of the person who did it? If it is a group of people who repeatedly do this are they going to do what the truck drivers did? I am pretty sure a lot of ppl will agree to what the truck drivers did.

if you watch a for a min you would have see that these refugee are breaking in the back of the trucks damaging the vehicles. So you are saying that you support these actions and truck drivers should just let them what they want? The truck drivers are simply protecting their own property. Nothing wrong with that.

again even the reporter are saying the refugees are breaking into trucks and they have been tear gased.

Again this guy even said he lives nearby and he is afraid to let his daughter who is 18 out. He is scare these refugee will hurt his family coz of all the shouting and how the refugee acted.

You do know you have to pay a damage deposit before your insurance will pay for it right? Otherwise anyone could just claim damage and get away for free. But then I guess you never own a car and never pay for any insurance. Because if you did you would know that.
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we need a new fucking plague.


i never understand why people in such shit conditions reproduce like they need to repopulate the fucking Earth in a generation

logic that blows my fucking mind everytime i see it in shitty parts of the world...my life sucks, so i'll fuck my wife and have like 10 fucking mouths to feed in a span of 10 fucking years because that will make my life so much better. Then when shit hits the fan i'll go on youtube or someshit with my hungry fucking infants and beg the world for some mercy.



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Since most ppl drive I would assume you would too. Let me ask you how would you feel if some strangers (not just one but a few) start banging on your car while you stop at a red light and start kicking your car as well? Would you feel Oh well these ppl might be just bums looking for change or food? And are you ok with them damaging your car that you spend your savings on? Also you will have to pay for the damage they cause. If people on the highway weave at you needing a ride would you let them in your ride when their clothes are wet and dirty and you run the risk of being mug rob, injury or kill by the person you just pick up?

Coz I know I won't and I am pretty sure most ppl won't as well. So should these truck drivers deserve this? Why should they give ppl free ride? Why should they put their lives in danger (you never know what if one of these refugee will kill you or hurt you). And why should they allow other to just damage their trucks? Or their company's truck (they might lose their job for this). I see that these refugee are damaging other people's property with no regards and even harm these truck drivers. If anyone try this shit with my property or my family I sure will do whatever it takes to make them stop and that's including putting a bullet in their head.
Also in Calais, migrants attack a bus full of school kids. One of the kids ended up having a seizure. Seriously wtf migrants? Imagine if that was your kid.

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You do know you have to pay a damage deposit before your insurance will pay for it right? Otherwise anyone could just claim damage and get away for free. But then I guess you never own a car and never pay for any insurance. Because if you did you would know that.
Deductibles are a small payment for the kind of money truck drivers make... nowhere near to ruin a mans job to repair some door latch that other humans without proper tools could damage.
Anyway let me put this into another scenario.
If Alberta attacked B.C. and a First Nations reservation was one of the first area to be hit... meaning the Albertan's used their women for sex slavery, took the men hostage to fight with them or behead them if they refused...
so basically if a bunch of refugees were on highway fleeing such areas, needing a ride to Vancouver to stay in shelters, would you still machine gun one that try to jump on your truck?
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If we elaborate on your analogy, the refugees would have escaped the reserve and ended up in a small rural area like Golden with little free benefits and jobs. Safe to live, yes, but these refugees heard about Vancouver and the lavish benefits that the mayor wants to give them all. So they walked and hitched all the way to Hope BC where lots of truckers make a pit stop before rolling into Vancouver. There life is alright but it's not fun and glamorous And there's little work or free money. Now they want to hitch a ride but are getting angry because no trucker wants to pick them up.



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Deductibles are a small payment for the kind of money truck drivers make... nowhere near to ruin a mans job to repair some door latch that other humans without proper tools could damage.
Anyway let me put this into another scenario.
If Alberta attacked B.C. and a First Nations reservation was one of the first area to be hit... meaning the Albertan's used their women for sex slavery, took the men hostage to fight with them or behead them if they refused...
so basically if a bunch of refugees were on highway fleeing such areas, needing a ride to Vancouver to stay in shelters, would you still machine gun one that try to jump on your truck?
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i never understand why people in such shit conditions reproduce like they need to repopulate the fucking Earth in a generation

logic that blows my fucking mind everytime i see it in shitty parts of the world...my life sucks, so i'll fuck my wife and have like 10 fucking mouths to feed in a span of 10 fucking years because that will make my life so much better. Then when shit hits the fan i'll go on youtube or someshit with my hungry fucking infants and beg the world for some mercy.



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fucking pull out or wrap your fucking tools, there's more than enough of us out here
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Over population is a myth... the western world is so brainwashed and rat race beat down that rather then have children and feed their little stomachs, instead they spend their resources and time feeding dogs and cats... and that new Lexus to impress people.
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If we elaborate on your analogy, the refugees would have escaped the reserve and ended up in a small rural area like Golden with little free benefits and jobs. Safe to live, yes, but these refugees heard about Vancouver and the lavish benefits that the mayor wants to give them all. So they walked and hitched all the way to Hope BC where lots of truckers make a pit stop before rolling into Vancouver. There life is alright but it's not fun and glamorous And there's little work or free money. Now they want to hitch a ride but are getting angry because no trucker wants to pick them up.
Syria used to be a very civilized country with many thousands of years of culture... being homeless in a tent with subpar food, no security, and the modern building of Europe to only look at would probably be a hell hole experience for any member here or regular human.
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This might be off topic but oh well:

I remember decades ago when I was in elementary school social studies, we learned about prejudice and racism. We learned how the two should be kept separate if possible as prejudice could be due to simple ignorance whereas racism implies direct hate.

Some people impose prejudice remarks against refugees. Are they racist? I don't think many of them are. Do I think they lack education? Yes. Again, they just don't understand the full on facts of the refugees, their plight, the program, the sponsorship, the costs etc. Sadly despite the boom in technology and information, there's still a lot of dumb people who would rather listen to a friend of a friend than the scientifically backed FACTS.

Racism is clear implied hatred of and superiority over another race. Funny enough, I don't see a lot of that on the many discussions I read over the webz (beyond trolls).

An example I remember:

You're invited to a party. You ask the host who else is coming. After the host tells you who will be there, you learn there will be a family of black people attending. You heard OF them, hence knowing their colour.

Prejudice: You bring waffles & watermelon jelly because you think they'll enjoy it because you were told black people like watermelon and waffles so it's a good safe food to bring for everyone to enjoy.

Racism: You cancel your invite because THEY will be there, period.

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I think as with every culture on the planet, the vocal minority will always overshadow the quiet majority. I mean for all we know, some refugee family members could be terrified of them coming here based on what their people say about us.
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Syrian refugee flow to Vancouver and Ottawa temporarily halted over housing shortage
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Hassam Abousalleh is concerned about finding a permanent home for his family, including his three sons Baraa, 5, Abdallah, 14, and Karam, 13. (Catherine Rolfsen/CBC)


Two cities, Vancouver and Ottawa, are taking a break from accepting any more government-assisted Syrian refugees as agencies in both cities try to work through housing bottlenecks.

A surge of arrivals in the last month filled temporary housing to capacity and the settlement groups responsible say they need time to move people into permanent homes before they can accept any new cases.

The director of settlement for the Immigrant Services Society of B.C. says the pause in Vancouver will last five days, beginning Tuesday. Even though the group added 700 beds to its housing stock, it is still taking time to find permanent homes, Chris Friesen said.

"Nobody is stuck in an airport for a week or something like that," he said. "Overseas, what it means is either they will put them on later flights or they may (send) them to new centres that have current capacity just to keep the flow going," he said.

Friesen said it also took more time than expected for the federal immigration department to process the cheques newcomers use to pay for their first homes and other needs.


Shahi Alradi is looking for a homes for his family, including his one-year-old daughter Zain Alsham. (CBC)

In Ottawa, officials had been gearing up for large numbers of privately sponsored refugees but what came first was the influx of government-assisted ones, filling the available beds. A delay in accepting new government-assisted refugees could last as long as a week.

"The timing just needs to be spread out a bit, it's just been this huge influx over a two-week period," said Leslie Emory, the executive director of the Ottawa Immigrant Community Services Organization.

The pause only applies to government-assisted refugees, those whose costs are covered entirely by the federal government.

Upon arrival in Canada, they are sent to one of 36 cities that have resettlement agreements with the government. Of the 25,000 Syrians the Liberals plan to bring in by the end of February, about 15,000 are to be part of that category and 5,932 have arrived so far.

Privately sponsored refugees still arriving.

An early element of the resettlement plan called for refugees to be housed temporarily at military bases in Ontario and Quebec until permanent homes could be found, but that is now considered an option of last resort. No bases have taken refugees so far.

A spokesperson for the immigration department said the size of the refugee resettlement operations brings challenges and the department is working with communities buckling under the strain. The spokesperson did not immediately say whether other communities had requested a pause.

Privately sponsored refugees will continue to arrive in both Vancouver and Ottawa.

Immigration Minister John McCallum said Monday the resettlement challenge is on the government's mind. One thing he said is under consideration is finding a way to get Syrians into more French-speaking communities.

McCallum says more than 90 per cent of refugees that have arrived don't speak either of the official languages, creating what he calls a blank slate for refugees and provinces to teach them either English or French.

But language-training courses are in high demand across the country. Friesen said. While some cities have no wait lists, others see new immigrants wait for over a year.
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