This will probably be the future of aircare.

http://esp-global.com/RSD

I don't know if he works there I was just asking him if he does.

He probably does work there,I have never seen anyone so "pro" aircare before.

So... why was Aircare originally created, assuming it wasn't to help take dirty cars off the road.


You may hate Aircare, but it's one of the lesser evils around the world. Ontario's system is widely known to be highly unreliable, yet they continue with it. California has one of the world's strictest systems; one that will basically nail you to a crucifix if you install so much as a CAI.

I don't agree with a large part of how Aircare (and many other emission control systems) is run, but I don't doubt that they do some good, however little it is.

No aircare in Victoria where I live.

^thank you for that wonderful piece of insight.


i think aircare is horseshit too, but i don't want a system similar to cali.
i could put up with a mot style inspection as long as they don't check my emissions... =\

http://www.aircare.ca/newspubs-myths.php

Yes this is from the aircare website, but atleast this is hard info on paper and not what you guys are making up.

http://www.aircare.ca/aboutus-qa-all.php
Questions and answers. Again, up to you if you believe the facts or not

^
not that the fact that you should trust every comment made on here,

but why would you trust things written on their own website?

This alone is proof that AirCare is not a "tax grab" - if it were, it would be province-wide. Instead, it's in effect ONLY IN THE GVRD... where, coincidentally, air pollution is worst (just ask anyone who lives in Chilliwack, where all of Greater Vancouver's collective emissions get funneled and trapped through most of the summer).

well that's why i mentioned it was from their website, and if you believe it or not it's up to you.


Someone should just contact CTV News and i'm sure they'll be glad to do a report on it if they haven't done so already in the past.

What information on their website is not trustworthy?

update. failed for the 3rd time on Saturday. :(

...10char...

That was a good read, especially the points in bold.


Possibly because the monetary returns of a small town or rural community are not high enough to warrant implementing an aircare facility.

Well, let's see... close to half of the province's population is concentrated in the GVRD, which covers, at a guess, less than 2% of the provincial land area... so yeah, maybe it's because there's FAR more pollution created in a FAR smaller area?

Tell ya what, next summer, after a few days of hot weather, you drive on out to Chilliwack, and then tell me the Lower Mainland doesn't have an emissions problem.

Oh, and "commercial" vehicles are not exempt. From the website:
But of course, we shouldn't trust the info on their site, right?

It does not matter what city you go to on this planet,every city has a polution problem,some are far worse than others.

The government should just be honest and tell people straight up they want more money,they should just cut the bullshit lies about clean air & all the enviroment bullshit and just make it easy for everyone and just add a extra $50 tax whenever a person needs to renew their insurance,this way,it would save alot of people the time,hassle & bullshit of taking time off just to take their car to aircare.

I don't know about you,but I have never seen a school bus,boat,motorhome,motorcycle or gas lawnmower being tested at aircare.

dude 91 vehicles..should be able to pass easily.. my 92 accord did it with flying colors

Aircare is such a fucking joke, I couldn't be happier I moved away from that bullshit.

Testing my Mustang, a car that had zero emissions controls when it was built, was totally absurd. The difference between "Pass" or "Fail" was 1/4 turn in the idle mixture screws.

I went to the trouble of keeping a second carburetor as the "Aircare" carburetor. I'd just swap it before going in for a test, then swap it back to the good carb after. Kept me from having to fuck with the tune on the good carb.

I hear ya!

Everytime I have to go through that joke we call aircare,I have to jack the car up,remove testpipe,install cat,install a temporary airpump and re-load my "aircare" map into the ecu.

Yes, and many of those have emission testing as well. The entire state of California requires emissions testing, as do other states, and I expect some countries.

Or you could go to, say, Mexico City, and spend all your time in a smog haze that doesn't let you see across the street...

So they went to all the effort to set up and build and staff these AirCare centers just to make money on them? And some have closed over the past few years, then... why? I mean, if these things are such cash cows, you'd think they'd be building MORE of them, not closing them down, especially with the population of the GVRD (and the cars they drive) steadily growing.

There might be a reason for that:
Lawnmowers account for a miniscule fraction of a percent of the emissions produced by cars.

Seriously, your logic is so flawed, it's... well actually, it's not, because there is no logic to this rant. AND you fail at reading.

The pass/fail line for that car is also a LOT different than for newer cars.

That's a lot of work when you admit you could have passed with just a quarter-turn in the idle mixture. Sounds like someone's just looking for excuses to be pissed off.

Soundy,your a idiot,why are you defending aircare so badly,you getting blowjobs from the employees there.

I don't give a fuck about the state of califonia or any other state,I only care about British Coulumbia,Canada.

Since you don't have a problem with aircare and love the fact it's around,perhaps you can pay for my next testing fees.

failed 5 times now. i give up. anyone wanna buy a 13.5 sec Greddy turbo Civic with JDM GSR motor? :(

There's no love lost between Aircare and myself but you seem to be ignoring all of the logic that's being said here. Aircare is efficient in what it's designed to do: reduce emissions in passenger vehicles. I'd rather be driving behind ten 1991 Civics that passed Aircare than behind one that's billowing blue and black smoke. Commercial vehicles (including bus's, RV's, tractor trailers, etc) are also tested, but just not at your standard Aircare stations.

And the majority of the profit that Aircare gets doesn't go to the government. It goes to Translink and the company that runs the majority of the emissions centers world wide (I forget what it's called).

Do you own a gas station? Coal burning power plant? Nuclear waste storage site? Brothel? Are you surrounded by government corruption? Are you getting blow jobs from all the people who benefit from vehicles with no emission controls?

Go wrap your lips around your moms tit and stay the fuck out of this.

And yes we are surrounded by government corruption.