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Old 01-15-2009, 12:10 PM   #51
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well maybe after 65 they should get re-tested every 2 or 3 years because their reflex fucking sucks
I say every one year. Doesn't matter if it's expensive or time costly. Driving is a previledge and they need to earn it.

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the FUCKED UP thing is,

those 3 kids DID stopped at the cross walk, and a car on the right side stopped and waved before they started crossing, when that elderly driver SPED DOWN THE LEFT SIDE and hit the kids.
Yep, I've seen similar things like that. A pedestrian crosswalk with the sign. Traffic suddenly stops on the left lane. Perhaps someone is trying to turn left or something. The guy speeding down the right lane doesn't really know, doesn't really care, the traffic in the left lane is blocking his view of the pedestrians crossing the street from the left side, the guy in the right lane guns through, just in time to mow down the pedestrians he had no way of seeing.

People should be aware that when the rest of traffic is slowed down for something, they should figure out why.


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They'll never have seniors retested. That would be discrimination. Testing should be done on a regular basis, like every 10 years, or even more frequent. There's just so many people that can't drive properly, regardless of age, sex, race. It'd be worth looking into. The costs of implementation could be recovered through reduction in claim payouts. In theory, it should be able to take unqualified drivers off the road or at least identify them to put them through a safety course.
yeah, they should have more testing, and make them harder. The discrimination thing is BS. The young people (under 30s) with anything faster than a corolla are being discriminated as street racers already. That's discrimination.
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Old 01-15-2009, 12:13 PM   #52
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maybe driver wanted to kill them.
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i think there should be a system in place not just for elderly people but ALL bad drivers. there should be something like if you get a certain amount of points or get into an accident thats ur fault you should have to retake the driving test to prove you can still drive. there is alot of people on the roads who have like 5+ accidents to their name my mom got rear ended ( no damage though ) by someone and they got out of the car and started crying saying dont go to ICBC because they had sooo many accidents people like that should not be on the road. also there should be an age that you have to get tested every year for driving and even if i was old i wouldnt mind i would rather take the bus than be behind the wheel putting not only myself but other innocent people in danger
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lol even in the rain.... how can you not see THREE people....
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Re-testing old ppl will NEVER happen. Making the streets safer is not profitable, just like making ppl healthy is not a profitable business. Only with more injuries & more ppl getting into accidents can ICBC show in their books that insurance claims has gone up & an increase of premium is needed (yet again). Human lives are worth no more than peanuts.
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This is something that actually deserves to be in the Vancouver Off-Topic / Current Event section. Not some random unrelated low humor reports of Romanian women sticking hair spray bottles up their back doors.

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the FUCKED UP thing is,

those 3 kids DID stopped at the cross walk, and a car on the right side stopped and waved before they started crossing, when that elderly driver SPED DOWN THE LEFT SIDE and hit the kids.
I think seniors should be tested regulary too.

In this case though, police said speed was not a factor. If a driver in the curb lane had stopped to let the kids through, it could be true that the other driver could not see them (maybe they were in front of the other car by now). I've seen this happen countless times before. True, the driver should've slowed to see why the other driver was braking for, but the kids also should've looked/waited before walking onto the path of the oncoming vehicle.
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I'm glad haymura brings up the fact that some seniors enjoy going out, and not all of them have friends or relatives to rely on. And our public transit system ain't the greatest...

What about those stupid pedestrians that cross at a crosswalk with the yellow flashing light, but don't press the button?!
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The statistics still show that YOUNG drivers are more likely to be in accidents than old drivers.

That is fact.
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The statistics still show that YOUNG drivers are more likely to be in accidents than old drivers.

That is fact.
that only makes elderly drivers more likely to be repeated offenders

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how did he not see 3 people?
70 years old, we need mandatory license rechecks

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if there is logical explanation to a differnet treatment, it wont be discrimination. I think my Business Law course covered this.

Just like color-blind people can not fly fighter jets.
thats true, the Charter does protect the elderly from discrimination, but all rights granted by the charter are subject to reasonable limits..i think the countless injury and damage claims that could have been prevented by regular retesting is reasonable enough.
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I'm not defending old idiotic drivers, but as pedestrians you have the onus to make sure you don't get hit no matter what. How fucking difficult is it to cross a street and be aware of your surroundings?
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The statistics still show that YOUNG drivers are more likely to be in accidents than old drivers.

That is fact.
Not when corrected for miles driven. Young drivers are also involved in more serious accidents, purely because of speed but that doesn't mean old fogeys shouldn't be removed from the road.
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What about those stupid pedestrians that cross at a crosswalk with the yellow flashing light, but don't press the button?!
Its a crosswalk, you should have your eyes focused on and around the area of the crosswalk as you approach it anyways, whether the lights are flashing or not. It should be like second nature.
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is it surprising this happened in richmond?
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since they're 16 and probably don't drive, they probably just assumed that when one car stops, it's ok to go.

they don't know about the limited visibility of the driver on the inside or outside lane and that not all drivers are gonna be aware enough to look @ why the other car has stopped before barrelling thru.
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old ppl should just not drive plain and simple

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is it surprising this happened in richmond?
did you expect it to happen any where else?
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Now imagine if you were at ur 70s and you dont have any siblings or relatives. How are you gonna get around? How are you gonna do your groceries or run your errands?
Understand driving is not a RIGHT, but more of a privelege. If that's the case how about 10 year old kid or a mentally handicapped person. Let's say they have no one to drive them to where ever they need to go, appointments, doctor, special needs, etc. Is that their excuse to drive too then?

Hell what if I'm drunk, I don't have a designated driver and not enough money to cab? Do I have a right to drive home?

Not really. My point is, people that are UNFIT to drive shouldn't drive. It doesn't matter what age or excuse you have. If a certain age group is known for slow reaction time, and poor sight there really should be stricter regulations. Like how they want to up the driving age and implemented the graduated driving system. They see more issues with young immature drivers so they made it stricter.

Not saying old/young folks should never drive. The government just needs to take more precautions to ensure everyone else's safety. Fuck the old folks, if they're fucking blind doesn't give them the right to be a hazzard on the road.

Anyways, just my opinion. Something that's pissed me off for SO many years. Really ticked me off when the old lady almost ran through my old shop and the car wash next to us right after I moved the bloody seat up for her.
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The statistics still show that YOUNG drivers are more likely to be in accidents than old drivers.

That is fact.
Yep. But those stats are probably not entirely that accurate.

This is just an assumption so I have no hard data to back this up, but I think I can safely assume there's more young/new drivers on the road than seniors on the road. ALSO, younger people tend to be out more often at all times of the day. So obviously according to stats there's more young people in accidents because they're on the road more often than seniors.

Kinda like saying California has as many (if not more) murders than Canada as a whole, which makes Cali look like a a shithole, but in reality Cali has just as many people as all of Canada.

I dunno, just my thoughts on Stats and how people often misread/misinterpret them.


Either way, BLIND OLD PPL GET OFF THE FUCKING ROAD.
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how can you not see THREE people.
Because he's old and his eye sight isn't all there and ICBC hasn't given enough
of a rat's ass to re-test his vision, along with the other many many senior driver's in the lower mainland.

Although not ALL senior driver's are horrible drivers, but enough are in inadaquet shape in terms of reflex,vision, hearing..etc. If you are still allowed to put others lives in danger by being on the road, then we should be allowed to demand them to be physically examined at the very least annually. But again, tell that to ICBC.
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