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Old 02-06-2009, 10:31 PM   #1
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I'm getting mind fucked. HALP.

Hey..

Alright, im going to give you a heads up this will be a bit long. I need all the advice I can get...

So theres this girl I have been friends with since approx. july 08. We hit things off great, would go for coffee (shes not 19 so no legal drinks yet), would spend a couple days of the week hanging out when I was off work.

Fast forward now to nov. 08. I tell her I have feelings for her and I ask if she has the same back. She says no, just wanted a healthy friendship which I was fine with. That november she begins dating someone. Thats where shit gets fucked! While dating this guy, she would spend the night, in the same bed as me. Let me massage her with no shirt/bra, and eventually she would start getting changed infront of me. Obviously im thinking with my cock at this point in time and I dont really mind. Shes beautiful, 10/10 body, personality I got along with really well. So then I asked her again, do you have feelings for me, and if not why are you doing this stuff? She replies because I trust you, were just good friends. Her and this guy broke up eventually.

Now, she calls me her bestfriend, has shown me some parts of her "friends" dont show each other, let me feel things "friends" shouldnt' feel. Again, thinking with my cock, dont mind at all.

At this point, we would hang out daily, every day, shed spend the night 3-4 nights in a row, cuddle, change, walk around in a towel, etc. Massages would get a little lower and lower each time. We have never fooled around except the one time i felt some stuff.

So im all fuckin confused, I call my buddy up, whos met her and all 3 of us chill out at the same time quite often, who gives me the simple input: "You two are dating, but neither of you will admit it". I knew that was coming. So he tells her this on msn and she flips out on him, and calls me to freak out because i told him the stuff her and I do (I did not get into full details).

Basically, Thats a huge fucking slim version of shit.
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Girl who wont date me will change infront of me
share my bed
let me massage her topless
let me massage her bum
let me felt stuff, let me see stuff
calls me daily to hang out
will cuddle
gives me hugs all the time


What do I do. Ive told her this needs to stop but she suggests it shouldn't.

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Old 02-06-2009, 10:37 PM   #2
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How about next time you guys are doing your massage thing or whatever, just kiss her and see what happens?
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hahah your getting worked over. She gets everything she wants and you get nothing but a hardon for your troubles.

Play her off and cut the petting and I bet she will initiate stuff. Tell her "that's not what friends do" if she is really a friend she will respect and agree with you. If she gets all pissed off you know you were just there for whatever need you fill for her.

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Old 02-06-2009, 10:43 PM   #4
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Def not gonna go in for a kiss as i've done it before.

Berz, I brought her to MRP with me once, I dont know if you were there or not.

I've told her no to stuff before and she didnt seem to get ancy.
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Old 02-06-2009, 10:45 PM   #5
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Ill elaborate on the kiss thing.

1 night me and her were laying in my bed, cuddling. She rolled over and looked at me, and i jokingly said "get off my side of the bed!". She then moved closer, and everytime I said it shed move closer. Eventually, she was so close, we were nose to nose, looking each other in the eye. Lips were almost there, staring each other in the eye. Right as I went to go for it she moved away a little, so I didnt do anything about it. Fuck.
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Old 02-06-2009, 11:36 PM   #6
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Why ddint go for the kill and just bang?
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surprised you haven't tried to felt her u while massaging.

or as asian_XL would say "STICK IT IN THE BUM!!"
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Old 02-06-2009, 11:52 PM   #8
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why does this bring that movie zack and someone make a porno to my head...

anyways dude...just throw some drinks in there...take it from there...im sure once the FIRST time is done with...2nd and 3rd and soforth will be easy..
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Old 02-06-2009, 11:54 PM   #9
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I think by, "Healthy friendship", she meant she wants to have a friendly relationship with benefits and no strings attached. I would say, hit it and don't tell your friends about it anymore.
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What a freaking tease. If you tell her it needs to stop and she doesn't, then why not stop things from going further yourself? Tell her she can't sleep over, she can't walk around in a towel, and you're not going to keep on getting to second base with her. Even if it's hard for you to keep it in your pants, set boundaries and be firm about it.

She's just walking all over you because she thinks/knows you enjoy it. What the hell was happening when she let you see and feel her "stuff"? What would happen if you flipped out your wang in front of her? "Hey, we're friends, that's what best friends do right?" I have a close guy friend but I'd never in a million years let him do things she lets you get away with. It's gross and it's fucked. It'd feel like incest or something. That being said, there's obviously sexual tension between the two of you. Tell her to quit being a tease or get out.
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Old 02-07-2009, 12:30 AM   #11
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WTF man!?
thats friends with benefits?!!? FRIENDS !!!!!
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What a freaking tease. If you tell her it needs to stop and she doesn't, then why not stop things from going further yourself? Tell her she can't sleep over, she can't walk around in a towel, and you're not going to keep on getting to second base with her. Even if it's hard for you to keep it in your pants, set boundaries and be firm about it.

She's just walking all over you because she thinks/knows you enjoy it. What the hell was happening when she let you see and feel her "stuff"? What would happen if you flipped out your wang in front of her? "Hey, we're friends, that's what best friends do right?" I have a close guy friend but I'd never in a million years let him do things she lets you get away with. It's gross and it's fucked. It'd feel like incest or something. That being said, there's obviously sexual tension between the two of you. Tell her to quit being a tease or get out.
+1 thats bullseye

sure you guys are 'best friends' but i mean wud u n ur best buddy message eachother? fuck no!
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holyshit... is this for real? I can't believe I am reading this. You could be doing whatever you want with her already.

1st mistake, never ask girl "do you have feeling for me". And you did it twice.
2nd mistake, when making body contacts like those... you should move in for the kill.

basically you are telling her: "I love you to death and I am gay". Anyways, be the man... take control. right now, you are the bitch
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dude if u can't be gf/bf with her, then FWB her!!
just look at all the stuff she lets u do with her, NORMAL FRIENDS dont allow that shit.
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you're getting mind fucked because you're obviously not thinking with your brain or your dick.
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how can you have the balls to have this happen to you and then share it with people. especially on the Internet. this will be here forever. just let her go. eventually she will come crawling back, looking for the affection you once gave her. or she'll replace you. within hours. either way she was just using you as a crutch for her own weak ego and low self esteem. fuck her.
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She's toying around with you because she can, plain and simple. And I don't see you putting a stop to it in the near future either.

Whatever.

Seriously dude, I don't really know whether you'll hit it or not, but it's not like you have anything else goin' on. So in the meantime, just enjoy what you can until either she or someone else comes along.

Just look at it at that perspective and you'll be fine. Anything else and you'd just needlessly frustrate yourself.
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im curious..how would she react if u dated another girl?
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She's a tease and a half. She thinks that she's got you wrapped around her finger so she's doing what she can to get what she wants and that's an eff buddy out of you.

Who's initiating everything to begin with?

Anyway, she sounds like a slut in the making and she's not even 19 yet..? Drop it in lieu of your "friendship".
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you're getting mind fucked because you're obviously not thinking with your brain or your dick.
I think im thinking with both too much actually? I don't know.

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how can you have the balls to have this happen to you and then share it with people. especially on the Internet. this will be here forever. just let her go. eventually she will come crawling back, looking for the affection you once gave her. or she'll replace you. within hours. either way she was just using you as a crutch for her own weak ego and low self esteem. fuck her.
Its the internet, whatever. Only a select people know who I am in person and I don't care if they know. Right now we haven't been talking because her and her mom got into a fight and shes staying at some dudes house in abbotsford. So i think theres times shes just using me as a crutch. But then again i work mon-fri 9-5 and im not missing work for her problems.

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She's toying around with you because she can, plain and simple. And I don't see you putting a stop to it in the near future either.

Whatever.

Seriously dude, I don't really know whether you'll hit it or not, but it's not like you have anything else goin' on. So in the meantime, just enjoy what you can until either she or someone else comes along.

Just look at it at that perspective and you'll be fine. Anything else and you'd just needlessly frustrate yourself.
There have been other girls who I get some from, and have not told her. None of her business IMO. She calls me her best friend, I dont call her my best friend as shes not.

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im curious..how would she react if u dated another girl?
Well, if im ever at my close friends house (shes a girl), she gets all pissy and tells me to come home to see her, or will always ask what were doing. We got into a huge fight over this like 2 weeks ago. I told her to mind her own, and she got pissed off.

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She sounds like she's desperate for attention but when it comes down to it, she doesn't actually like you.
If you're ok with being used -fine. But it seems like she's discarding your feelings.
One of my best friends is a guy and like someone else posted, I would NEVER do this with him, he's like another brother

Hope you work it out
She has confidence which I hate. Shes beautiful like I said. Im not down for being used. After she let me play with her tits, the next day she said she never let anyone do that and it probably wont happen again. It hasnt happened since then.

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holyshit... is this for real? I can't believe I am reading this. You could be doing whatever you want with her already.

1st mistake, never ask girl "do you have feeling for me". And you did it twice.
2nd mistake, when making body contacts like those... you should move in for the kill.

basically you are telling her: "I love you to death and I am gay". Anyways, be the man... take control. right now, you are the bitch
Im not just in it for some pink taco dude. I actually had feelings. Now im at the stage where im kind of confused. She knows im no where close to gay, as she found my porn on my computer and also found some spicey pics of a girl I use to be close with...


Thanks everyone for the advice. Keep it coming.
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...and if possible, post up some pictures.
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