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I dunno about the dudes but just trusting the gal if she said she's on the pill is like a girl saying oh the guy said he's tested and clean, so stick it in unwrapped... Yeah, uh no. Sorry I trust not. |
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Just like every woman who is stuck in a loveless marriage/relationship has every right to entertain the chance to find love somewhere else. What is it about your upbringing that convinces you that everything in this world should be biased towards women (and never against them)? Its very naive to think that men are guilty by automation and that no women play a contributory part in such faults. Whack Off? HAHAHAHA. You lose credibility just for that. It's very simple, men and women both need their maintenance, whatever maintenance may be for each. When either party is not receving sufficient maintenance from their counterparts, its natural for both men and women to look elsewhere to fulfill such needs. This is a natural human phenomenon, which I can guarantee every time. |
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And yes, you are an asshole. |
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OMG some of the responses (small percentage, fortunately) in this thread make me sick. Maybe I'm not as horny as you Noir, but sex is NOT a necessity. When my wife was pregnant, we both wanted it at times, but we went without because to me, it seemed like I was going to jizz on my developing kid. :lol And now that you're a parent, say good bye to your sex life! Good thing we're going to Vegas in March. |
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(And we're not talking about being in our 50's or 60's in age. We're talking about 20's or 30's at best) necessities are necessities, plain and simple. Do people know that when there is a scarcity of food, people have eaten other people? Atrocious in normal situations no? Of course, the necessity of sex is not as dire as hunger, but neither is the atrocity of cheating in comparison to cannibalism. Like I said, it's easy to judge when one is not subject to extraordinary circumstances. But place people on extraordinary situations, and people's morals and civility will shift to that which is more basic. Why do you think hungry people steal? |
Depends whether or not it is sexless because you don't love each other anymore. And you also have to consider the children, because they will be hurt if the relationship between mother and father doesn't exist anymore. Once you're a father, you cannot be selfish anymore, as simple as that. |
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It's not like she was a 1 night stand. When you have a long history of relationship with a partner, you tend to trust them when they say they're on the pill. Unless she has previously shown signs not to be trusted. |
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But I'm glad that you point out that basic necessities > sex, but sex still is an important aspect in any relationship. |
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And yes, Noir, we know you'd cheat on anyone for whatever reason you ain't getting pussy, she got fat, your friend was hot yeah yeah yeah. We also know you love to advise other people to cheat just for the experiment, oh hell who cares about the consequences. Life is pussy and pussy is life: for you. |
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there are three kinds of people in this world...pussies, dicks and assholes. take your pick |
The only case where his cheating is acceptable (notice "acceptable") is if his gf and him both agreed to have an open relationship. And judging by his confidential post he knows that cheating/ open relationships aren't her style. He still doesn't have the right to cheat if he ain't getting laid perfect world or not, hence his guilt. He should confess so she can dump his horny ass and be with a guy who won't seek out pussy when his gf shat out his kid and isn't into sex. |
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But you're not changing facts that unfortunate as it may be, reality is that cheating IS a common form of transition from one relationship to another. And that sexless relationships are one of the causes that precipitates this transtion. Your seriously need more substance or does depth in your argument really only goes as shallow as black is black, and white is white? |
But in the begginning that's all we were ever discussing: right or not right in this case to CHEAT. No, he has not the right. Does he have the right to have sex? YES. How should he go about it? He should dump his gal and fuck whoever the hell he wants! I don't care how common it is that the transition is, that does not mean it's acceptable or that's right or okay all it means is it's common. So? You think that if you present that argument to his gf she's going to be accepting of that? (Maybe, but probably not.) As you can see the majority speaks out that his cheating was unacceptable. I'm not trying to change the facts that people cheat, why or when. Only that in this case he was "wrong". |
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Seriously, it's like you getting called out in the Pregnancy thread. Do you think people choose not use protection? No, but a certain circumstance brought forth by a factors beyond someone's control can shift a person's morals. But you're too narrow a mind to take into account things past the black & white portion of right & wrong. Point is: People placed in desperate situations will always yield the same results. Of course, everyone likes to think highly of themselves, but I'd love to see the true % of people who retain their integrity in times of desperation. :rolleyes: |
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you try getting turned on with a girl youve gotten prego before and all thats running through your mind is "you coulda had my kid"....it just dosnt make things easier...its easier to just cut them out of your life and try to forget it and move on. happy? |
Do I think people choose to not use protection!? You either choose to wrap it up or you choose to fuck bareback. She chooses to take her pills of she chooses to not. Yes, I think people choose. Here we go again, yes everyone will eventually cheat on everyone right? Oh now wait, only in times of "desperation". "HOLY SHIT, I haven't been laid in 3 months- I'm gonna go get me some ass!" Becuase you think that no matter what the unfortunate circumstance that comes up someone will always break and fuck someone else. I know your life revolves around pussy. So then the vows most of us will evenually take are bullshit because they only apply in "good times". Because once one party gets desperate they'll cheat. Do you have anything more than black and white against me? I don't see the world in black and white. I see certain situations in black and white, just like everyone else. Cheating is unforgivable you know why? Because even if I did think it was a one time thing, no feelings involved, still loves me, feels sorry for it I would look at him in disgust, that would never change. No matter how much I tried. I'd look at him and see him fucking some chick. And dare I say I'm hardly the last one who thinks cheating is a dealbreaker NO MATTER WHAT. Now that doesn't mean that everything I see and do is so cut and dry- the situations that arise here are however. Shall I provide you with an example or do you not give two shits? |
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I think we've been dancing around the same points now for the last few. Are you under the impression that the more emotionally charged your arguments are, the righter you become? :lol |
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For the record, I see where Noir's coming from. Granted, it did take me a while to realize what the fuck he was talking about. And really, if you think about this situation, it's not the be-all-end-all story. It's actually kind of typical. It took the both of them to get where they are. |
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What a dick head! Not a good move bro not good! |
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