the dark side of dubai

[Not really racist!]

long read, worth it tho!

[threezero]

yea this kind of slavery happens all around the world. In HK, flipino maids does not get pay for the first half yr they are in hk. their passport get withheld by their agency and although the official statement is there is no discrimation. There is, alot.

[RTS]

Originally Posted by antonito

Well then, touche' I guess. Thank you for that though inspiring rebuttal. Glad to see your usual response to anyone asking you to back up your claims, which is to go into full on troll mode.

In the six plus years I have frequented this board I've defended Christianity, Capitalism and my political views various times. Just because I don't do it in this thread does not mean I have not successfully done it in the past, or that I have the time to deal with obviously stubborn and uninformed individuals like you.

[StaxBundlez]

Originally Posted by RTS

In the six plus years I have frequented this board I've defended Christianity, Capitalism and my political views various times. Just because I don't do it in this thread does not mean I have not successfully done it in the past, or that I have the time to deal with obviously stubborn and uninformed individuals like you.

^
Good job man
You have every right to defend your beliefs

[m4k4v4li]

[Noir]

Originally Posted by CivicBlues

No you moron, instead of judging an entire place by one reporter's article, actually live there and come back with an informed opinion - negative or otherwise. Reporters are biased, Emeratis are biased, expats are biased. Either form your own opinion or be a tool.

It's almost impossible to have lived in every place on earth in one lifetime to have a valid judgement of any location on topic. That being said, isn't the next best thing is to "read up on it." Yes a lot of articles will have their bias, but as long as you read up on both sides of the bias, does that not equalize representation?

[Spoon-EG]

Revscener and from Vancouver guy response from DUBAI:


This is the biggest bull shit article ever published. Yes some parts about the labourers are true, but that is life and every Country has slavory, beside they are all happy here and they make 3x more than they would make in India.

They live in so called Labour camps out of the city, or some certain zones in Dubai it self, they have swimming pools, gym, and soccer and other ammenities, I have sold few labour camp and trust me they are not what this dumb ass motherfucker has said. And trust me I went to India on a short trip a few months ago and even with the lifestyle they have in Dubai, it is still 10x better than back in India.

And the lady with the husband in jail, maybe you shouldn't fucking buy things you can afford, simple saying in life. Nothing to do with how Dubai is or does. I am actually quite happy with the if you owe money you go to jail, works VERY well trust me, you call police and with in 30 minutes the person is in jail, and if the amount that he owes is more than DHS 50,000, he can not be bailed out of jail.

Dubai is one of the safest cities in the world, I have been here for a year and half now and this whole time I have seen maybe 2 crimes. No drugs, no fights, no cocky lil gangsters, no ass hole cops standing around with there fucking radar cameras or handing out V.I's. Even cops here drive crazy and speed, you would all love the roads here, all brand new. Life style is cheap, for you smokers packs of smokes is around 2$, 98 octane gas is about 1.70$ per galon, cars are cheap, going out is cheap, also the biggest Aquafina water bottle there is is about 25 cents, did I also mention NO tax?? The thing with Dubai is there is either low class or high class, nothing in the middle.

Dubai is actually about to pass a law that any news paper company that tries to critisize it will get fined 1.2 Mil, too much jealousy in this world.

Also I've never ever seen this so called nasty beach and I have been to all the beachs in Dubai.

P.S if I spelled anything wrong or didn't use the right grammer than who gives a fuck, I wrote this in 2 minutes.

Article from Dubai newspaper response to this fuck head.

http://www.thenational.ae/article/20...893397609/1299

I'll check checking back this thread.

[Spoon-EG]

P.S only maids passports get taken because alot of times before they stole the peoples jewlerry and went back to their country.

and yes I have a maid and yes I keep her passport ($500 per month for maid) another $500 per month for a driver.

[Jason00S2000]

Damn. So lucky to have been born white and in Canada.

[Noir]

Originally Posted by Spoon-EG

Revscener and from Vancouver guy response from DUBAI:


This is the biggest bull shit article ever published. Yes some parts about the labourers are true, but that is life and every Country has slavory, beside they are all happy here and they make 3x more than they would make in India.

They live in so called Labour camps out of the city, or some certain zones in Dubai it self, they have swimming pools, gym, and soccer and other ammenities, I have sold few labour camp and trust me they are not what this dumb ass motherfucker has said. And trust me I went to India on a short trip a few months ago and even with the lifestyle they have in Dubai, it is still 10x better than back in India.

And the lady with the husband in jail, maybe you shouldn't fucking buy things you can afford, simple saying in life. Nothing to do with how Dubai is or does. I am actually quite happy with the if you owe money you go to jail, works VERY well trust me, you call police and with in 30 minutes the person is in jail, and if the amount that he owes is more than DHS 50,000, he can not be bailed out of jail.

Dubai is one of the safest cities in the world, I have been here for a year and half now and this whole time I have seen maybe 2 crimes. No drugs, no fights, no cocky lil gangsters, no ass hole cops standing around with there fucking radar cameras or handing out V.I's. Even cops here drive crazy and speed, you would all love the roads here, all brand new. Life style is cheap, for you smokers packs of smokes is around 2$, 98 octane gas is about 1.70$ per galon, cars are cheap, going out is cheap, also the biggest Aquafina water bottle there is is about 25 cents, did I also mention NO tax?? The thing with Dubai is there is either low class or high class, nothing in the middle.

Dubai is actually about to pass a law that any news paper company that tries to critisize it will get fined 1.2 Mil, too much jealousy in this world.

Also I've never ever seen this so called nasty beach and I have been to all the beachs in Dubai.

P.S if I spelled anything wrong or didn't use the right grammer than who gives a fuck, I wrote this in 2 minutes.

Article from Dubai newspaper response to this fuck head.

http://www.thenational.ae/article/20...893397609/1299

I'll check checking back this thread.

Wow, good job being level-headed and objectve. Way to negate to your credibility. You're response is just as bad as the journalist you criticize.

Nonetheless, any level headed person wouldn't come to the conclusion that Dubai is a shithole of a city. If anything, all I took from that article was that with progress and grandeur, all comes at a cost; like many of the human made wonders built through time.

[CivicBlues]

Originally Posted by Ludepower

Hey moron..here's a nice video which coincides with this 'one reporters article'

Part 1 of 4...actual video on the living conditions of these workers.

[youtube]tJkpv4kMVC4[/youtube]

Yes dont believe everything the media says...create your own thread and preach that...in this thread...why dont you explain what Dubai has going for them besides the oil revenue that runs the city.

Whoa whoa whoa, back the fuck up Prudepower, I didn't say I disagreed with everything the article says, just that people who take an opinion piece as hard fact are idiots. Don't go all JasonS2000 on me and back your arguments up with your library of youtube videos.

p.s. If you'd actually READ the article, you'd realize that Dubai wasn't built on oil revenue, Moron.

[Topgrinder]

i was thinkin of hittin dubai up this year. Then is tarted lookin more into it and found out it aint all that.

then i read this!!! wow!!! great article and very well written

this modern day slavery is bullshit

[antonito]

Originally Posted by RTS

In the six plus years I have frequented this board I've defended Christianity, Capitalism and my political views various times. Just because I don't do it in this thread does not mean I have not successfully done it in the past, or that I have the time to deal with obviously stubborn and uninformed individuals like you.

What I don't understand is why you bother to even comment in situations like this if you don't have the time or motivation to back up your claims. It's not like this is the only thread. Actually, I can't remember a single thread where you've done anything more than make a few retarded comments and then pussy out when called on your bullshit. I haven't been here 6 years though, so I could be wrong. When would you say you gave up, a year or two ago?

[rslater]

Originally Posted by Spoon-EG

Revscener and from Vancouver guy response from DUBAI:

Dubai is actually about to pass a law that any news paper company that tries to critisize it will get fined 1.2 Mil, too much jealousy in this world.

This is why I wouldn't believe a word that guy had to say. Not so much on the law itself, but on the fact that he supports a country that would do this.

[heleu]

Originally Posted by Spoon-EG

Revscener and from Vancouver guy response from DUBAI:



Article from Dubai newspaper response to this fuck head.

http://www.thenational.ae/article/20...893397609/1299

I'll check checking back this thread.

The "newspaper" is in Dubai, written positively because they have to. Or else their newspaper would be shutdown. It's hard to be objective when their is an alterior motive.


Anyways, I would love to go to Dubai one day. It's too bad the island hotels my company was working on got shut down...would have loved to do a site visit one day.

[SkinnyPupp]

Originally Posted by Spoon-EG

that is life and every Country has slavory, beside they are all happy here and they make 3x more than they would make in India.

Aaaaaaaaand that's where I stop reading.

[threezero]

Originally Posted by rslater

This is why I wouldn't believe a word that guy had to say. Not so much on the law itself, but on the fact that he supports a country that would do this.

werd.

i saw
Revscener and from Vancouver guy response from DUBAI:

thinking i will get to see a well written response from the other side of the argument.

after reading that i'm thinking if dubai is going to be in deep trouble if all the high class acts like spoon. pretty soon the low class will revolt.

the end

[goo3]

Whoa, this is the internet.. not a class essay. People can make good pts without making it "well written" LOL as long as you actually wanna hear what they have to say.

Haven't read the article, but ppl who have roots in the area tell me it's like us taking a trip to Vegas (minus the gambling, of course).. but bigger and better and surprisingly cheaper too.

[Noir]

Originally Posted by goo3

Whoa, this is the internet.. not a class essay. People can make good pts without making it "well written" LOL as long as you actually wanna hear what they have to say.

Uhhh no. How you articulate your arguments very well determines the credibility within your statements. No matter the validity of your POV, you won't get very far should you talk and type like a 13 yr old pre-pubescent girl.

Take heed. This is not an RS Lesson. This is a Life lesson for you and others who think otherwise.

[StaxBundlez]

^
Yes.. representation is key..
BUT
the strength of your argument lays within the validity of your statements. Not so much as the general structure of your statement. You can have a well articulated argument that has no real definitive facts. As long as the argument sounds reasonable, uninformed people may just nod their heads. But someone who knows what they are talking about may hand your ass to you on a silver platter. You wont sound so fancy after that i promise you.

Does anyone here really know whats going on in Dubai besides from what they read?

Someone who is generally interested in finding out whats true, weather or not they agree with what they would like to personally be true, is in a position to give an intellectual honest assessment of whats supported, not supported, and refuted by evidence.

But
Those who are more interested in confirming their own beliefs, then uncovering facts that might challenge those beliefs are in no position to give objective opinions. This is due to the fact that they cannot work through the filter of personal bias.

But this IS a forum where people are free to give their own opinion on any matter. Weather it be subject or objective opinions.. you have to let that person speak their mind.. no matter how demonstrably wrong their opinion may sound to you..

[Noir]

Originally Posted by StaxBundlez

^
the strength of your argument lays within the validity of your statements. Not so much as the general structure of your statement. You can have a well articulated argument that has no real definitive facts. As long as the argument sounds reasonable, uninformed people may just nod their heads. But someone who knows what they are talking about may hand your ass to you on a silver platter. You wont sound so fancy after that i promise you.

I disagree. You have no idea the capabilities of a "well-articulated-statement" can yield. It will trump more validated arguments conveyed in an inadequate manner.

If Spoon-EG has a point, he wasn't able to get it across as well as he did his displeasure; the latter being about ALL he accomplished.

[q0192837465]

Originally Posted by heleu

Wow, great read. I suscribe to the Economist which also is not afraid of posting real opinions.

I was offered an engineering job paying the equivalent of $200K US a year a few years back and it sounded too good to be true. Probably was.

My old boss used to work in Dubai and he said it is the most racist place on earth. He is an engineering manager and his counterpart would make half the wage he did just because one had a Canadian passport and the other had an Indian one.

My boss also told me that if you hit a pedestrian in Dubai, the consequences are dependent on the race. If it is an asian, African worker, you pay a fine. If its a expat or emerati, you're going to jail.

Crazy.

As bad as it sounds, it may be to your advantage.

Well, it's sad but true. In order to have rich ppl, there must be a lot more poor ppl. That's the way our world works

[hal0g0dv2]

just watched some of those videos
pretty good

[dna82]

Originally Posted by Spoon-EG

Revscener and from Vancouver guy response from DUBAI:


This is the biggest bull shit article ever published. Yes some parts about the labourers are true, but that is life and every Country has slavory, beside they are all happy here and they make 3x more than they would make in India.

They live in so called Labour camps out of the city, or some certain zones in Dubai it self, they have swimming pools, gym, and soccer and other ammenities, I have sold few labour camp and trust me they are not what this dumb ass motherfucker has said. And trust me I went to India on a short trip a few months ago and even with the lifestyle they have in Dubai, it is still 10x better than back in India.

And the lady with the husband in jail, maybe you shouldn't fucking buy things you can afford, simple saying in life. Nothing to do with how Dubai is or does. I am actually quite happy with the if you owe money you go to jail, works VERY well trust me, you call police and with in 30 minutes the person is in jail, and if the amount that he owes is more than DHS 50,000, he can not be bailed out of jail.

Dubai is one of the safest cities in the world, I have been here for a year and half now and this whole time I have seen maybe 2 crimes. No drugs, no fights, no cocky lil gangsters, no ass hole cops standing around with there fucking radar cameras or handing out V.I's. Even cops here drive crazy and speed, you would all love the roads here, all brand new. Life style is cheap, for you smokers packs of smokes is around 2$, 98 octane gas is about 1.70$ per galon, cars are cheap, going out is cheap, also the biggest Aquafina water bottle there is is about 25 cents, did I also mention NO tax?? The thing with Dubai is there is either low class or high class, nothing in the middle.

Dubai is actually about to pass a law that any news paper company that tries to critisize it will get fined 1.2 Mil, too much jealousy in this world.

Also I've never ever seen this so called nasty beach and I have been to all the beachs in Dubai.

P.S if I spelled anything wrong or didn't use the right grammer than who gives a fuck, I wrote this in 2 minutes.

Article from Dubai newspaper response to this fuck head.

http://www.thenational.ae/article/20...893397609/1299

I'll check checking back this thread.

the article strangely described you perfectly.

[Ludepower]

Originally Posted by CivicBlues

just that people who take an opinion piece as hard fact are idiots.

Goodjob...thanks for the friendly reminder....Sherlock