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Old 04-14-2009, 06:27 PM   #51
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doesn't really make a difference i was just trying to give a little bit more detail. I don't think there are too many 16 year old kids carrying around guns and doing killings so there wasn't a need for the cops to rush to the back knowing there would be a dog. they could have waited an extra minute or two in the front he isn't a wanted fugitive that would slip away from the back never to return.
Actually there are lots of 16 year olds with guns it seems. Certainly a lot who can be charged with assault. Your brother should not have brought the dog out to them, he should have gone peacefully, especially if he is innocent (which I doubt).

I feel bad for the dog, for having a criminal owner, and an ignorant owner.
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Actually there are lots of 16 year olds with guns it seems. Certainly a lot who can be charged with assault. Your brother should not have brought the dog out to them, he should have gone peacefully, especially if he is innocent (which I doubt).

I feel bad for the dog, for having a criminal owner, and an ignorant owner.

i feel sorry for you not being able to read . didn't OP say the dog was out to pee? didn't the OP said the gf was late to open the door only for a few minute because she was upstair. I don't know how you perceive the dog to be brought on intentionally to stop the police.

The dog was shoot beside its dog house. that is clearly a case of trigger happy cops, even if the dog is aggresive he didn't even start charging.

what happen to innocent until proven guilty? i dunt think the point of the thread is to argue whether the 16 yr old kid is a gangbanger. i think this thread's purpose to to expose improper police procedure.


here's my guess at what when thru the cop's mind. cop goes to investigate 16 yr old kid with possible assualt charges. the cop is already thinking, this kid is a gangster to be. knock on the door, waited 20 sec and decide the kid is making a run for it. bust in through the yard, see the pitbull looking dog peeking its head out the dog house. the cop think holyfuck*&^*&^%ing shit the kid's got backup!!!!!! and shoots the dog.

too much coffee anyone.
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It's useless.

I hardly believe the local news will pay attention to it unless there's some public
interest or it has been brought before the court. Especially her brother is under
investigation, I mean who will read an article that says "suspect's dog injured by
cops, people on RS wants an apology". Dude, they are not public complaint
department, so definitely not going to take it serious unless there're some public
concerns or some police spokeperson says something about it.

I know a girl who got t-boned by a cop car without its siren on, that was some
serious shit, she was in coma for few days. Her family complained it to various
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wow.... that's messed up... glad the dog is gonna pull through
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i feel sorry for you not being able to read . didn't OP say the dog was out to pee? didn't the OP said the gf was late to open the door only for a few minute because she was upstair. I don't know how you perceive the dog to be brought on intentionally to stop the police.

The dog was shoot beside its dog house. that is clearly a case of trigger happy cops, even if the dog is aggresive he didn't even start charging.

what happen to innocent until proven guilty? i dunt think the point of the thread is to argue whether the 16 yr old kid is a gangbanger. i think this thread's purpose to to expose improper police procedure.


here's my guess at what when thru the cop's mind. cop goes to investigate 16 yr old kid with possible assualt charges. the cop is already thinking, this kid is a gangster to be. knock on the door, waited 20 sec and decide the kid is making a run for it. bust in through the yard, see the pitbull looking dog peeking its head out the dog house. the cop think holyfuck*&^*&^%ing shit the kid's got backup!!!!!! and shoots the dog.

too much coffee anyone.
so it's bad to think the kid is a punk because he's innocent until proven guilty. i mean every 16 year old has pending assault charges.

but it's ok to think that the cops are trigger happy assholes who ignore police procedure.

you go as far to guess the cops state of mind during this incident. but call the whambulance because some folks think this kid might be a punk.

let me spell this out for you. YOU'RE A FUCKING IDIOT.
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there is obviously more to this story. what with all the stories in the news about police-involved shootings, all PCs have been reminded of the proper procedures for drawing and discharging a firearm.

if a cop is attending the house of a suspected violent criminal, young offender or not, you'd think they'd be prepared for the worst. they don't know who's inside and whether he or she is armed. also, as a dog owner myself, i know that a dog can be tame with its owner but when strangers enter their territory, a normally tame dog can turn vicious.

in any case, i don't want to guess at what happened. the OP has only posted what his gf has related to him. that's one side of the story. we'll have to wait for what the police have to say.
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i feel sorry for you not being able to read . didn't OP say the dog was out to pee? didn't the OP said the gf was late to open the door only for a few minute because she was upstair. I don't know how you perceive the dog to be brought on intentionally to stop the police.

The dog was shoot beside its dog house. that is clearly a case of trigger happy cops, even if the dog is aggresive he didn't even start charging.

what happen to innocent until proven guilty? i dunt think the point of the thread is to argue whether the 16 yr old kid is a gangbanger. i think this thread's purpose to to expose improper police procedure.


here's my guess at what when thru the cop's mind. cop goes to investigate 16 yr old kid with possible assualt charges. the cop is already thinking, this kid is a gangster to be. knock on the door, waited 20 sec and decide the kid is making a run for it. bust in through the yard, see the pitbull looking dog peeking its head out the dog house. the cop think holyfuck*&^*&^%ing shit the kid's got backup!!!!!! and shoots the dog.

too much coffee anyone.
Yeah, I'm sure this is just another case of trigger-happy cops shooting some innocent schoolboy's loyal dog. It's not at all possible that the kid is just another thug wannabe who has a pending assault charge like so many kids seem to be getting these days. Nope, not at all.
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I'm willing to bet that every single person who is crying and yelling about how "stupid" cops are or how incompetent they are, will be the first to bitch and be a pussy when shit hits the fan and you need the help of cops.

You guys can't ever be pleased. When cops do something good, it should've been done soon or more efficiently, when something goes wrong or a cop makes a mistake, it is all fucking cops that suck! Fuck, I don't even know why we hire these dumbasses!

You guys are the fucking dumb shits of society. It no wonder why some cops are so on edge when dealing with the public. Fuckers like you can't ever be pleased.
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From the details you have i dont understand how you side with the cops? and why are you bashing people for being concerned about the cops actions? It is part of their job, they are in the public's eye and should be watched carefully as they have tons of power which cud easily be taken advantage of.


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I'm willing to bet that every single person who is crying and yelling about how "stupid" cops are or how incompetent they are, will be the first to bitch and be a pussy when shit hits the fan and you need the help of cops.

You guys can't ever be pleased. When cops do something good, it should've been done soon or more efficiently, when something goes wrong or a cop makes a mistake, it is all fucking cops that suck! Fuck, I don't even know why we hire these dumbasses!

You guys are the fucking dumb shits of society. It no wonder why some cops are so on edge when dealing with the public. Fuckers like you can't ever be pleased.
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From the details you have i dont understand how you side with the cops? and why are you bashing people for being concerned about the cops actions? It is part of their job, they are in the public's eye and should be watched carefully as they have tons of power which cud easily be taken advantage of.
I am not talking about this case in particular but in general. However, there is two sides to each story. I am not siding with the cops or the OP. I am simply saying keep an open mind.

People who have made these general comments about cops are retarded. Saying every single cop is stupid or VPD is stupid is either extremely ignorant or just plain dumb.

But I do wish the best for the OP and the dog.
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I honestly believe the whole story isnt being told here.
I'm not saying the OP is lying. Maybe the story she told him isnt totally what happened either.
Just something really isnt adding up here.
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I'm willing to bet that every single person who is crying and yelling about how "stupid" cops are or how incompetent they are, will be the first to bitch and be a pussy when shit hits the fan and you need the help of cops.

You guys can't ever be pleased. When cops do something good, it should've been done soon or more efficiently, when something goes wrong or a cop makes a mistake, it is all fucking cops that suck! Fuck, I don't even know why we hire these dumbasses!

You guys are the fucking dumb shits of society. It no wonder why some cops are so on edge when dealing with the public. Fuckers like you can't ever be pleased.
What do the cops do? U seen all these teens out there robbing ppl, stabbing and getting into serious crimes. What do the cops do? Nothing. They knew these ppl are going to keep doing the crime yet nothing is stopping them. Remember that teenage boy that stab someone on the skytrain the victim refuse to give the kid a smoke. Tat kid have more like 100 crimical records and the police did nothing.

The police here like to pick on us regular citizens and leave the bad guys alone.
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I'm willing to bet that every single person who is crying and yelling about how "stupid" cops are or how incompetent they are, will be the first to bitch and be a pussy when shit hits the fan and you need the help of cops.

You guys can't ever be pleased. When cops do something good, it should've been done soon or more efficiently, when something goes wrong or a cop makes a mistake, it is all fucking cops that suck! Fuck, I don't even know why we hire these dumbasses!

You guys are the fucking dumb shits of society. It no wonder why some cops are so on edge when dealing with the public. Fuckers like you can't ever be pleased.
your a dumb fuck yourself buddy. cops in this city are absolutely useless and clueless as to what is going on. This is why this city is so fucked up. i get pulled over all the time by cops for the sole reason that I am 24 years old my cars are registered to my name so they assume that there is no way I could have made money the "right" way. They give me excuses like I didn't match the description of the registered owner. They questions about where I am going etc. and if I don't answer they'll give me a VI or a ticket for some bullshit reason. I look like I'm in my 20's what part of the description did I not match? They give me options to either take some BS ticket or get searched. I take the the tickets NOT because I'm hiding something but because I don't feel like standing on the side of the road putting on a show for the losers driving by that will talk shit saying "oh drug dealer busted!!" I have had numerous situations where the cops have screwed me over. Falsely accusing me of assault, threatening to shoot my dog when he is behind a fence and they have the wrong address (then shooting my gf's dog a few months later...as you can see in this thread), constantly pulling me over to a point that I filed a complaint and hired a lawyer. Surveillance on my house and my gf's house. Following me when I leave and pulling me over within 2 blocks. Coming to my house when there were 8 guys with tasers and bats trying to rob me/kill me (I still don't know) but they arrested me for trying to use a weapon (neighbors called the cops when they saw these idiots). And they arrested one of the other guys too. (1 out of 8) but step back and look at this 8 ON 1 and I get fucken arrested at my own house!! Imagine I blew one of their heads off I'd be in jail for life. They could be beating me silly have me tied up shoving bats up my ass and if I shot one I guarantee I'd be in jail for life and they would get a RIP facebook group! Someone hit my car and took off (luckily it was a service rental), I had their license plate and full description and the cop told me they can't do anything about it. Just file an ICBC claim WTF??? hit and run and your not going to do anything about it? I can't even drive around without a fucken front plate. Shall I continue? Cops are fucking stupid idiots in this city. They are clueless and with the RCMP lowering their standards on accepting new applications shits only going to get worse. If I were in an emergency situation not even for one split second would I think about calling the police.

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i find it funny that there are certain people who will always find a reason to blame the police for anything that happens. no matter how it goes down, they always shift the blame on the cops because they feel that situations could be handled better. if they were the police, they would have handled the situation differently and used better judgement.

that said, theres also the opposite. theres people who will always give the police the benefit of the doubt, regardless of the situation, without knowing more about the story. people that say, 'oh the kid was probably just a punk and the cops were defending themselves'. 'a box cutter in the right hands can slash your jugular with surgical precision'. 'a stapler is a dangerous weapon, no office should have one'.

its funny to see both sides of extremists find their way into this thread. its always the same people on the same side of the fence.
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What do the cops do? U seen all these teens out there robbing ppl, stabbing and getting into serious crimes. What do the cops do? Nothing. They knew these ppl are going to keep doing the crime yet nothing is stopping them. Remember that teenage boy that stab someone on the skytrain the victim refuse to give the kid a smoke. Tat kid have more like 100 crimical records and the police did nothing.

The police here like to pick on us regular citizens and leave the bad guys alone.
That has nothing to do with the police. That is the fault of the courts and the people making the laws.

The polices job is to gather evidence and then make an arrest. Then they take that evidence and the person and hand it over to prosecutors. They take the evidence and build a case. The defense (which obviously knows every loop hole in the book) takes that evidence and tries to counter everything the prosecution will say.
Dont blame the police. Blame the defense lawyers and the courts.
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your a dumb fuck yourself buddy. cops in this city are absolutely useless and clueless as to what is going on. This is why this city is so fucked up. i get pulled over all the time by cops for the sole reason that I am 24 years old my cars are registered to my name so they assume that there is no way I could have made money the "right" way. They give me excuses like I didn't match the description of the registered owner. They questions about where I am going etc. and if I don't answer they'll give me a VI or a ticket for some bullshit reason. I look like I'm in my 20's what part of the description did I not match? They give me options to either take some BS ticket or get searched. I take the the tickets NOT because I'm hiding something but because I don't feel like standing on the side of the road putting on a show for the losers driving by that will talk shit saying "oh drug dealer busted!!" I have had numerous situations where the cops have screwed me over. Falsely accusing me of assault, threatening to shoot my dog when he is behind a fence and they have the wrong address (then shooting my gf's dog a few months later...as you can see in this thread), constantly pulling me over to a point that I filed a complaint and hired a lawyer. Surveillance on my house and my gf's house. Following me when I leave and pulling me over within 2 blocks. Coming to my house when there were 8 guys with tasers and bats trying to rob me/kill me (I still don't know) but they arrested me for trying to use a weapon (neighbors called the cops when they saw these idiots). And they arrested one of the other guys too. (1 out of 8) but step back and look at this 8 ON 1 and I get fucken arrested at my own house!! Imagine I blew one of their heads off I'd be in jail for life. They could be beating me silly have me tied up shoving bats up my ass and if I shot one I guarantee I'd be in jail for life and they would get a RIP facebook group! Someone hit my car and took off (luckily it was a service rental), I had their license plate and full description and the cop told me they can't do anything about it. Just file an ICBC claim WTF??? hit and run and your not going to do anything about it? I can't even drive around without a fucken front plate. Shall I continue? Cops are fucking stupid idiots in this city. They are clueless and with the RCMP lowering their standards on accepting new applications shits only going to get worse. If I were in an emergency situation not even for one split second would I think about calling the police.
What kind of friends do you have?
You say your house and your gfs house was under surveillance. Would any of your friends happen to be involved in gang activity? Do you think MAYBE if someone is the police might have them under surveillance and you have shown up a couple times in one of your flashy cars?
Dont think for a second that just cuz you have made your money legitimately doesnt mean that it might look like you could be laundering drug money through the business?

Also you say that 8 people attacked you at your home with weapons and the police only arrested you and one other person? You also say that you dont know why they were there. If it was a robbery they would have robbed you. If they wanted to attack you they would have attacked you. I dont think the whole story is being told here either.
Do you have a brother? Could it be possible these guys were looking for him?
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What do the cops do? U seen all these teens out there robbing ppl, stabbing and getting into serious crimes. What do the cops do? Nothing. They knew these ppl are going to keep doing the crime yet nothing is stopping them. Remember that teenage boy that stab someone on the skytrain the victim refuse to give the kid a smoke. Tat kid have more like 100 crimical records and the police did nothing.

The police here like to pick on us regular citizens and leave the bad guys alone.


Because you know, sentencing and law making are really the job description of the Police. Hey fuckhead, THOSE ARE FOR JUDGES AND THE GOVERNMENT. Judges do the sentencing for crimes and the government passes laws.

IT THE JOB FOR THE COPS TO REINFORCE THE LAW. NOT TO MAKE IT.

Is it the police's fault that the kid gets released and a slap on the arm? No. It's the fucking legal system. Because of pussy parents and dumbshit individuals that think the kid deserves another chance.

Leaving the bad guys alone. Yes, because the media doesn't publish the achievement of cop successes as much as their failures, they only pick on the good guys. Can you please go and die already?
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