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if your mom insists to buy a Honda for you to go to school, what can you complain? Honda has built a fucking solid reputation in the baby boomers' mind. they do their research and read the feedback from the end-users. spending money one a RWD V8, won't boost their sales a lot. |
realistically, you can leave out V8...but RWD...comon mang... |
Doesn't matter if honda makes one or not, as long as RWD V8s don't die i'm fine. |
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Face it. Sporty, high powered, large displacement cars are only for niche markets. It's a smart decision for the time being. Who knows, someday if times change, maybe they'll revisit their position in those certain market niches. |
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add the new camaro, V6 mustang to affordable RWD sports coupes. and the comment about 2000 having 'sporty cars' is a joke. in 2000 there was nothing. The japanese sports cars died when the RX-7, Supra, 300ZX and even S14 or 2G DSM stopped production in north america, so mid-late 90s. 2000 was also before the Evo or STi were here, which is about all japan had to offer until recently It looks like the asian auto makers relized we wanted to back to the early 90s with turbo rwd sports cars and have started to set it in motion. |
So basically they are following what Toyota is doing. |
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It just sucks to hear that honda has canceled the v8 and the rwd platform after the cancellation of the NSX. Even though I understand that Honda might come out loosing money from a v8 RWD, I really want to see what vtech in a v8 can do. I'm a car enthusiastic, and even though i can't afford any of those v8 rwd cars I still want to read and admire them. However, if i'm a business man I would give mad props to Honda. I know what i just said is selfish because there is always a chance that Honda might destroy it self from making a v8 rwd in this economical time. I'm just a little upset with all the hope I had for the NSX and the v8. You gotta admitt it too that you had actually looked forward for the NSX and v8. |
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seems like alot of corvette drivers get 26-30 mpg. not bad by any means |
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No, not the bailout duo and forget the sportscar segment... We can all agree that Acura competes in the luxury car segment right? Well, all their competitors with the exception of maybe Audi are RWD with available V8's. Lexus, BMW, Caddy, Merc, etc... If they want to compete in this market, they should build a similar car. |
Sure the import sports compact/sports car market wasn't as strong as it used to be in the 80-90's..i still dont think it's that bad. Toyota kinda died down first in mid 90's with the discont MR2/Supra..but the somewhat sporty cars were still around for a tad longer (celica/IS in 2000 and MR-S in mid2000). But the IS-F recently emerged. Honda was mid 2000's if you exclude prelude/DC2R (nsx/rsx and the s2000 hasnt been updated since 06)...while the new Si emerged nissan still had the G coupe + Z + recently GT-R mazda lost their rx-7 while ago..but still has their rx-8 and mazdaspeed line-uup Subbies had the STi since 04 Mitsubishi recently with Evo Hyundai with Tiburon + recently genesis |
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But for some unquantifiable reason, Honda has the best balance sheet by far out of all the automakers. Hmm... |
Leaving V8/RWD is good for their company from a financial point of view. Nobody is debating that driving V8/RWD is exciting, but given the cost of fuel and the collapsing economy, the greater part of the global population will refrain from buying and using such gas guzzlers. This is what the American auto makers failed to realize, and one of the nails in their current coffins. |
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"I don't think we need a classic front-engine, rear-drive car. It would be meaningless to emulate what other companies have done for more than five decades." FWD, AWD > RWD small efficient 16 valves I4 > American V8 2-valve pushrod VTEC > Non-VTEC |
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is it cheaper to manufacture FWD? |
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There's a reason race cars, dragsters, ... are RWD. |
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Think about how much easier it is to design a car when you don't have to worry about a driveshaft and rear diff. Anyone that's been in the rear seat of a 1-series knows how much space the driveshaft tunnel takes away from the interior. |
Final nail in the coffin for Acura as a "premium" brand |
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having to rev to 7k to get for 160 tq? no thx. honda has never made a car that is even on the same lvl as a zr1. or even a z06, or even a reg vette |
So.. Honda finally admits they don't make performance cars? Maybe the ricer fanbois will stop trying to race everyone in their Civics. |
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silly ricer |
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