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sonick 07-21-2009 10:43 AM

OMFG IT GOES FAST IN A STRAIGHT LINE!!!

Put down that power on a track on a FWD and see how fast it is.

jeff_alexander 07-21-2009 10:58 AM

http://rawautos.com/wp-content/uploa...3amg_front.jpg

FWD sucks, case closed

ilvtofu 07-21-2009 10:58 AM

Understeer into the wall :)
And besides that engine sounds like crap...

I agree with what's been said about honda even bothering with this segment, they're hopeless trying to sell a performance V8, they should really work on their V6s though and try to produce the same power with the same fuel economy as their competitors.
All they have now is their 4 bangers in Canada that are actually decent competitive engines...

jeff_alexander 07-21-2009 11:05 AM

Quote:

"Asking the front wheels of a car to do the normal job of steering while handling, lets say, more than 170 bhp, is like asking a man to wire a plug while juggling..... penguins..... while making love... to a beautiful woman, while on fire, on stage, in front of the queen."
Best said

taylor192 07-21-2009 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EagleSpeaker (Post 6516474)
it's not like your little Kompressor is any better
silly ricer

At the time it was better than any Acura or Lexus.

Blinky 07-21-2009 11:53 AM

[QUOTE=orange7;6516085]Ya.. I totally agree with you that what Honda is doing is actually a really smart move in a business stand point.[quote]

Absolutely. A civic can be sold, in quantity, in North America, and much of Asia, Europe, Australia and South America (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_c...rm_derivatives)

A Camaro or Mustang-type car can be sold in quantity in... North America (Maybe! The Camaro was shitcanned for a reason!) and probably Australia.

Quote:

Even though I understand that Honda might come out loosing money from a v8 RWD, I really want to see what vtech in a v8 can do.
VTAK isn't the end all and be-all. There are already a number of small-displacement, high-revving DOHC V8 engines that tell you what can be done with that type of engine (4L v8 in the E92 M3; 4.3l V8 in the Ferrari F430). VTAAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaK isn't going to be incredibly better.

Quote:

is it cheaper to manufacture FWD?
Yes. Material costs are lower as the car is lighter, more efficient, and has fewer moving parts.

q0192837465 07-21-2009 12:26 PM

But I always thot Acura is meant to compete with premium brands. Buy by the way it looks, it's still a par under Lexus/Infiniti. Seriously. Lexus/Infiniti is upscale. Acura is nothing but the rebadged Honda.

orange7 07-21-2009 12:30 PM

[quote=Blinky;6516594]
Quote:

Originally Posted by orange7 (Post 6516085)

VTAK isn't the end all and be-all. There are already a number of small-displacement, high-revving DOHC V8 engines that tell you what can be done with that type of engine (4L v8 in the E92 M3; 4.3l V8 in the Ferrari F430). VTAAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaK isn't going to be incredibly better.

I also want to see other car manufactures bringing up new v8 as well.. I don't just want to see a honda v8. I want to see v8, v10, etc from all companies, even thought it will mean a loss for them in a business stand.
I think you've misunderstood me. I love the v8 sound from a Ferrari, and I would never want ferrari to stop making v8.
I was only pointing specifically at Honda because this thread is about Honda. LOL

Meowjin 07-21-2009 12:56 PM

[QUOTE=orange7;6516644]
Quote:

Originally Posted by Blinky (Post 6516594)

I also want to see other car manufactures bringing up new v8 as well.. I don't just want to see a honda v8. I want to see v8, v10, etc from all companies, even thought it will mean a loss for them in a business stand.
I think you've misunderstood me. I love the v8 sound from a Ferrari, and I would never want ferrari to stop making v8.
I was only pointing specifically at Honda because this thread is about Honda. LOL

lol...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Variable_valve_timing

vtech is nothing but marketing... just like hemi.

Blinky 07-21-2009 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MajinHurricane (Post 6516672)

lol...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Variable_valve_timing

vtech is nothing but marketing... just like hemi.

Please attribute quotations correctly. Thanks :)

That said, you are correct. Though initially, I believe that VTAAAAAAAAAAaaaK was unique in that it did timing, lift and duration all in one system. The other mfgs have caught up now.

Meowjin 07-21-2009 01:52 PM

yeah ment to do it on orange7

orange7 07-21-2009 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MajinHurricane (Post 6516747)
yeah ment to do it on orange7

:bowdown:

orange7 07-21-2009 02:27 PM

Seriously, am I the only one who is upset that the NSX AND the v8 engine has been canceled by Honda? Then again, I wouldn't be upset if Honda had never announced developing them.

Oh, this goes for any other car manufactures as well.
If nissan had stopped the development on the R35, I would be upset but not pissed.

asahai69 07-21-2009 02:34 PM

honda has always been, and continue to be the most boring auto manufacturer in this world.

Noir 07-21-2009 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by orange7 (Post 6516781)
Seriously, am I the only one who is upset that the NSX AND the v8 engine has been canceled by Honda?

Yeah, because considering the age & economical demographic of the members that comprise this site, only a small margin of members would've actually made use of brand new real high end sports (or exotic) cars.

Now if a certain auto manufacturer were to say, it will cease their R&D to hybrid, electric, or alternate fuel engines everyone would be more up in arms as its more of a technology that everyone will someday benefit from. (or should benefit from at least).

Ludepower 07-21-2009 08:12 PM

Is it just me or does Honda take a lot of bad mouthing on RS. I know a lot of punks drive Honda...but do we need to bash a company that builds good cars?

We're in a recession...it's a business decision...compared to other companies...Honda is doing better....by sticking to their core values.

Jackygor 07-21-2009 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ludepower (Post 6517126)
Is it just me or does Honda take a lot of bad mouthing on RS. I know a lot of punks drive Honda...but do we need to bash a company that builds good cars?

We're in a recession...it's a business decision...compared to other companies...Honda is doing better....by sticking to their core values.

You should go this this thread on acurazine

http://www.acurazine.com/forums/show...396703&page=10

Its funny the amount of bashing they do on acura...on an acura forum! LOL

orange7 07-21-2009 11:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by orange7 (Post 6516085)

Even though I understand that Honda might come out loosing money from a v8 RWD, I really want to see what vtech in a v8 can do. I'm a car enthusiastic, and even though i can't afford any of those v8 rwd cars I still want to read and admire them. However, if i'm a business man I would give mad props to Honda.

I know what i just said is selfish because there is always a chance that Honda might destroy it self from making a v8 rwd in this economical time. I'm just a little upset with all the hope I had for the NSX and the v8. You gotta admitt it too that you had actually looked forward for the NSX and v8.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noir (Post 6516854)
Yeah, because considering the age & economical demographic of the members that comprise this site, only a small margin of members would've actually made use of brand new real high end sports (or exotic) cars.

Now if a certain auto manufacturer were to say, it will cease their R&D to hybrid, electric, or alternate fuel engines everyone would be more up in arms as its more of a technology that everyone will someday benefit from. (or should benefit from at least).

I've never said anything about ppl on this site being able to afford those cars or not. Besides, v8 and rwd doesn't have to be used in high end sports (or exotic) cars. Although it's going to cost a lot to put one in a regular honda, I think it's a good option to have for the Honda Ridgeline. Furthermore, I'm pretty sure most of us will like to see and be able to afford a rwd RSX/integra if it's offered here. Now let's move away being able to afford v8 and RWD technology. The Acura lineup needs to have some sort of performance that differs it from Honda. Afterall, Acura is a premium brand (well not really). I think it will be cool to have the ZDX offered in a vtec v6 and a vtec v8 as well as sh-rwd and sh-awd. That would be some "interesting" news to read about.

impactX 07-21-2009 11:44 PM

Ignore teh troll.

Anyway, put 2 F20C blocks together and they could make a V8 with over 400hp.

Meowjin 07-22-2009 03:00 AM

im getitng rid of my tl and getting a g8 g2

Quickshifter 07-23-2009 03:25 PM

RWD FTW

but V8s are just optional, Honda doesn't really need V8s really....

roastpuff 07-23-2009 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by asahai69 (Post 6516792)
honda has always been, and continue to be the most boring auto manufacturer in this world.

Sorry, that's Toyota. Seriously, they don't have a sporting model anymore... not even in the sport-compact segment.

Corolla XRS - seriously!? :eek::confused:

twitchyzero 07-23-2009 04:11 PM

^
IS-F

roastpuff 07-23-2009 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by twitchyzero (Post 6519555)
^
IS-F

Toyota not Lexus. Lexus has sporty cars. asahai said Honda, not Acura, so I'm comparing Honda to Toyota.

asahai69 07-23-2009 05:13 PM

^ its the same shit different pile. acura is the same dam thing as honda. just a little nicer on the inside. lol. Toyota the company made the IS-F. Honda made a supercar back in the 90s. then made a shittier version later on. atleast toyota had the supra and now has the IS-F. i am biased tho cuz i would never really look into buyin a japanese car. but i would totally buy a toyota before i buy a honda. to me. therye the exact same thing but toyota has always been a step or two ahead of honda.




honda does make good lawnmower engines tho. gota give them that!


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