No way!
I used a 17-40 on a 20D for the longest time, and wasn't until I switched to a FF where it really shined!!

24 is not wide at all!

^^ stop yelling already!!!! lol
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24mm on FF is okay... not that wide. I think you need to go down to 20mm or less to REALLY feel the difference.

Can someone lend me a Nikon 14-24/2.8? heh heh. Now THAT'S wide, on FF.

I have to agree with Tom here. 17mm on my 20D was ok, but 17mm on my 5D, awesome :).

Forgot about the 17-40....and that is is FF. I've used the 16-35 f2.8 on a 5DmkII...it took a little while to get used to it.

does anybody ever use the sigma 12-24mm? i'd imagine to be crazy wide on a FF

Your statement makes no sense.

Oh, by the way, found out today that the 5D MKII and 7D won't rear courtain sync with strobe lights and using Pocket Wizards Plus II. I was f*cking pissed during the shoot in class today...

Is there a way to get around this?

It's not very sharp. Mananetwork used to have one. The Nikon 14-24 is the one to have if you can afford it, and you have an EOS to F mount adaptor with a chip.

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Makes no sense? The whole EF-S thing is dumb. Why not just make it an EF lens so it's compliant across the range of cameras. If they want to keep it "affordable" which the EF-S range is suppose to cater to, then just make it non-L which it is already.

Why does my comment make no sense?

Now that's wide. I sold the lens because it wasn't very sharp at FF. You have to stop that thing to F11 to get corners to finally sharpen up

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Haha...that's the day we went to Lynn Canyon and err...someone who shall remain nameless hit his 50mm f1.8 against a table and it broke into a million pieces. :D

Ha ha, I remember that, good times =)

Now that you explained it, it makes sense and I agree with you.

coolios

:)

^NO, I want fight to the death. No agreeing on Revscene

how much better is the noise compared to my t1i?
how about video? it still has no continuous af for video right?

i'm just considering the thousand dollars i'll be investing in this body (after i sell my t1i), or in a tokina 11-16. the body upgrade seems to be an overall upgrade when paired with my cheaper lenses (17-50, 50, 55-250)

I agree.

This is what I wanted to post yesterday:

http://www.vimeo.com/7508466

My very first attempt at cinematography. I'm loving the Canon 7D. I never realized how much I enjoy videography until now :). The editing took me a good 12 hrs though! and that is not including trying to figure what program to use and how to edit the footages (probably another 12 hrs). Video is a lot more time consuming than photos.

Stats:
Recorded with Canon 7D and built-in mic (really crappy audio) and Canon 17-55mm F2.8 IS. Video was edited on Pinnacle Studio 14 HD directly, with no conversions or proxies necessary. This program is able to edit .mov footages with no problems unlike Vegas or Premiere Pro.

Can anyone recommend a decent external microphone that won't break my wallet?and where can I get one? (preferably in Vancouver). I read that the Rode Stereo Videomic is pretty good but it costs $250 US.

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If the T1i is anything like the 50D, then the 7D will be an improvement at ISO 800+, but I'm not sure if it's worth $1000. Personally, I'd get the Tokina.

Check out Provision (http://www.provisionvideo.com) @ 143 West 3rd Avenue, 604.876.0940. They have a decent Sennheiser mic for about $200, and I think a RODE Stereo Video Mic for $250. If you can, get the RODE mic with the suspension system, as it will make a huge difference in reducing noise. Also get a Dead Kitten/Dead Cat for the mic to reduce wind noise if you're going to be outside.

Thanks for the tip. If I can get the Rode Stereo Videomic for $250CDN, I just might get that. It's suppose to come with a dead kitten.

Any personal experience with this microphone on the 5Dii or 7d?

I just checked Vistek, and they're selling the RODE mic I saw at Provision for $439, so I guess I was wrong. It must be around that price. No experience using it - I went to Provision to inquire about the various mics they have that can be mounted on a DSLR and they recommended me that one and a few others.

http://www.vistek.ca/store/ProVideoM...icrophone.aspx

The other one they showed me:
http://www.vistek.ca/store/ProVideoM...in-stereo.aspx

I've read reviews about these two on the net. The rode is better. But at $439, it is about 2x more than the US price after taxes! The Sennheiser is mono only and causes a lot of noise on the 5Dii. I'll call Provision tomorrow. Hopefully you saw correctly.