Well aren't you nice, you'll rip off a poor waiter/waitress of a deserved tip cause you're upset at the government.

You went to private school and have parents worth a lot of $$$, yet all that didn't teach you any sense of decency.

You put the ass in classy.

Used cars are GST exempt.

+1, don;t listen to CounterPuncher, he's some spoiled rich kid with no manners and no real world experience.

Yes statistically BC has low unemployment, so what?

Yes, as you pointed out BC residents have high personal values. When my parents bought the lot they have their house on now, they bought it for $150,000 and it is now worth roughly 3.5 million.

Unfortunately personal value has very little to do with buying power, while people that have lived here for 30-40 years have value hand over fist many new market entrants are having to move further and further into the valley.

That's up for debate.

No there's nothing wrong with that except for the fact that Vancouver is now predominantly a customer service based city. We have very little industry, very little manufacturing and are almost completely dependent on people coming here for tourism.

We've seen recently how the rise of the Canadian dollar which killed the amount of Americans visiting here has brought a lot of hotels to its knees.

Case and point, I can go and get a room at the Chateau Whistler right now for $99 dollars.

The fact is unless we have core industry we can rely on, we're in a lot of trouble. I'm not saying tourism is bad, I'm saying being solely dependent on it is bad.

It's kind of like the saying there is always someone richer, and better looking. When Vancouver's 15 minutes is over (which might not be for another 20-25 years) I'm not sure what will be left.

The problem is that there is becoming less and less of a middle class. Because of extremely limited buying power of the dollar.

If you're making $200,000 a year, you're making shit here.

You dumb fuck, you just don't see it do you? 20 years ago Vancouver was a small city. It's amazing what happens when people get displaced. 20 years ago people moved here because it was cheap.

Now look what has happened.

Frankly, I can live here, I don't have to give a fuck.

I'm not saying to change it I'm saying to add more industry.

When a person's wage can buy them 2 heads of cauliflower.. I'm rightfully worried.

Thanks for the life help champ, because I didn't know these things. You're a real genius.

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Thanks pal, I know, I'll be lining my pockets with more money because of the reduced costs.

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Obviously right, because you know me. I do very well for myself thanks and I have as much business sense as I should. How's the weather up on that high horse you are on?


I'll be paying a lot less because I'll be able to deduct a lot more, spend less on housing.

I was thinking either Arizona or Missouri where state sales taxes are 3%.

Cheers.

And you sound like someone who wishes they had my life. :haha:

Yes, they taught me a lot of decency, they also taught me to not be stupid with my money.

I'm not spending an extra 30-35% to go out for dinner.

By the way, I'm not sure when this became a personal attack session. When did being against the HST become disillusional and crazy.

I simply don't think it's a good idea in a place wher ethings are already extremely extremely expensive.

http://www.citymayors.com/economics/...ities_eiu.html

How the fuck are we almost as expensive as New York?

Yeah this place needs to become more expensive.

Yes another HST thread.


Bottom line here, FUCK HST.

CounterPuncher and taylor192 sound like two sides of the same coin.

Nonetheless, I'm not upset about the implementation of the HST THAT much, but what pissed me off about it was that they just sprung it on us with zero warning.

Thanks for confirming your status as a spoiled rich kid. You are ignored.

Michael Levy made a good point the other day when he was battling Mike Smyth about this: people react as if the HST is *adding* a tax, when it's in fact *replacing* the PST... as in, the PST itself is going away.

That means, anything that didn't have GST on it before, WON'T have the HST on it; thus, anything that currently has PST but not GST, will as of July 1 not have EITHER tax.

Please don't put in the same category as some spoiled fuck who can afford private school, brags about unearned family riches, then talks of not even having the decency to leave a hard working waitress a proper tip cause he has to pay a bit more on a $100 meal.

When you said this:

Next time I'll ask for your father's opinion, since he's the one with the financial success.

damn i dunno who to root for .. both taylor and counter have their points ><

I thought you're only against the GOD DAMN SKYTRAIN.....

Can you post the specifics of this, I want to buy a used Jeep and this would make my decision to wait worthwhile.

http://www.cra-arc.gc.ca/tx/bsnss/tp.../menu-eng.html

Used cars are not listed here (or at least I cannot find it).

Thanks.

I wouldn't root for the guy who wants to move to avoid paying taxes, and under-tip hard working people cause he has to pay a little bit more for food, when his family is sitting on $3.5M.

Here's why I like the HST:
http://www.gov.bc.ca/hst/Documents/H..._Works_Web.jpg

The HST becomes a truly valued-added-tax. Yes it means consumers have to pay more for the things they want, yet that's the point. If you want to buy a LCD TV, you should pay the associated costs, I shouldn't be subsidizing it via my income tax.

It also makes doing business outside the country less lucrative. Goods manufactured outside this country do not have the PST applied at each step, only on the final sale (and the import duties if applicable). Companies can avoid tax buy manufacturing outside Canada and selling here, yet with the HST thy don't ave to avoid taxation anymore, the end consumer pays it.

So you're happy about a tax that sees companies getting further incentives to take manufacturing jobs outside of Canada?

Wow, I've always thought you were an amateur douche. This just bumped you up to olympic level

Holy FUCK someone just made a sensible post about the HST?
Umm I think you need to reread some things...

What about used cars, do we still need to pay HST on that (when the first owner already paid HST on it)?

Because you have to pay sales tax on a sale.

Oooooooooooooooooo so THATS what HST is .... okay i'm for it then :)
wait wait ... so does this mean i have to pay hst on skytrain fare?

I could give you an approximate timeframe to look it up on cknw.com's "Audio Vault" - when Mike Smythe was on covering the Bill Good show for a couple weeks there, he went on an anti-HST crusade. He had Michael Levy on to inject an actual financial analyst's view, but as soon as Levy started talking sense about the upside, Smythe got downright hysterical, and would barely let him get a word in edgewise.

If memory serves, the bit I'm referring to was during Levy's first appearance... he was back one or two more times after that for a "cage match" (as Smythe liked to bill it)... dunno how they actually talked Levy into coming back a second time, let alone how he restrained himself from belting Smythe upside the head repeatedly...

Couldn't tell you the exact dates, but you can probably look it up on cknw.com

Depends, I'll play Devil's advocate on my own post.

My previous coworkers made less than me, yet didn't save a dime and spent it all on gadgets. This always annoyed me, why aren't they saving for the future - yet why should they save, cause when hard times hit governments give away money to them to spend even more recklessly to "stimulate" the economy.

They want their toys, want others to pay for them, and guess who's going to pay down the deficit spending? The top 10% of earners who pay > 50% of the tax. Arg... no wonder there's so many people against this tax, they don't want to pay their fair share.

Its the "Ant and Grasshopper" story we've all seen as a Disney movie. Too bad Disney did us all a dis-service, cause in the original story the Grasshopper dies.

LOL love your multi-quote, I don't even need to respond to el-bastardo.