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You can love it or hate it but the HST is good public policy Leading economists from across the country say the Harmonized Sales Tax is the single most important step British Columbia can take to boost its economy. Studies have shown that it's already working in the eastern provinces. article from the vancouver sun: Quote:
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This article couldn't be more wrong. The single most important thing that would boost the economy is legalizing and taxing the sale of Marijuana. The HST is going to cripple the restaurant industry. Places where they automatically slap on an 18% service fee, will now add the 12% HST. You're going to be paying 30% tax for your restaurant food. Good luck with that. |
HST, GST, PST who give a shit anymore, its not like we can change the law peace out ! |
Bullshit, high-income individuals pay little to no tax. Why else would you hear about all those rich folk getting in shit for not paying their taxes? |
Things to do 1) Buy a car before Jul 1 next year. 2) Make reservations for no more than 7 ppl in restaurants. If more, reserve 2 tables. |
What the article is saying, and the government is hoping, is that businesses and restaurants will have lower operating costs due to harmonizing of the two taxes. They are hoping that these savings will be passed onto the consumers. So even though you are paying an extra 6% for your food, the food should cost less. Quote:
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restaurant won't reduce prices, if anything the prices will stay the same and increase. Find me a restaurant in town that has "reduced" all prices across the board instead of having "specials". as for the Rich, it depends. how they are setup. self employed, salaried, company. the rich CAN pay little or no taxes. i've seen T1 for 10k when he makes 2.5million annually. |
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Looking forward to the decrease in tax on alcohol |
General rule of thumb to live by: if a politician tells you something is good for you, it's not. |
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BC has the highest restaurant menu prices of all provinces and people here still eat out a ton. I pay on average 20-30% more for meals here than Ontario. Example: I typically get a "hungry man breakfast" which costs about $12 in most places I've eaten in Vancouver, plus coffee is extra ($3). The same breakfast was $10 with coffee included in Ottawa. Do I refuse to go out cause I'm paying 50% more for breakfast? No. Eating out is a luxury and people will continue to pay even if prices go up 12%. |
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This change puts more money into business's hands, which should allow them to hire more and expand their business since they won't pass this along to the consumer. |
the HST is one thing, but its the approach the liberals specifically their leader gordon campbell took to impliment the HST. it was sneaky, it was sly, it was typical gordon campbell liberal politics. if there was discussion, explanation of the HST to the public before applying it or the suggestion of applying it, then it would have been easier to accept. but not this "drop the bomb" tactic. Shit, the NDP are having a field day on this one... I dont like NDP either, i like the liberals just not their leader. |
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What you really mean is "explain it to the public" and "let the public have an opportunity to say NO" and reject it. There is no opportunity to reject this, its a federal mandate, and either BC can take the cash bribe and run or wait till Ottawa mandates the change and get nothing. Its not going into affect for a year, so its hardly "dropping the bomb". Peple just don't like change or taxes and want to bitch/whine/complain. |
saw the new last night, they're going to raise msp as well because of the "huge" deficit that they "couldn't" forsee. |
"dropping the bomb" also means you dont have a choice, here you go! campbell also campaigned, mind you it was in spring, not last year, not the year before, but months ago, no changes to tax. the way gov't works, decisions on something such as HST arent made within days. Also opposition party, let alone the rest of the house didnt even know of the HST. I wont even begin to mention the budget being so far off. come on, if u build a house, and you do go over budget, its lets say, worse case scenario, 50% over budget, its within reason. but the gov'ts "estimation" was so far off, 5 times if not more than what was estimated. sure our economy took a dump this year, but come on, grade 10 business ed taught us how to better balance our books than how the current gov't is doing with them. yes jumping on the fed cash rebate is always good, but decisions like these, and the way they have been handled, is down right stupid. you'd think campbell's media relations, and liberal party would have put up a red flag saying "the public isnt gonna handle this good, maybe we should at least act humble about it and play it off." but instead its do it first, ask for permission 2nd. they are hired and elected, not the other way around. technically speaking the gov't is the employee, and the public is the employer, thats why they are called public civil servants. Quote:
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it is like the carbon tax and it screws over the average joe We will even be taxed on things that were not taxable before like bike safety gear, like helmets for cyclists and motorcyclists for example. |
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i'm not in favour of the sales tax because i'm the consumer.. and when it comes down to it i have no control over what price i pay. i just know i have to pay it. if the HST actually works then the consumer "should" see the benefits.. i just find it hard to believe that companies who are making more money by saving on PST will actually pass those savings down to us? isn't it all about their bottom line.. so if they're making more why would they lower their prices? BUT, in theory i do agree with the HST... i'm just weary about the practical application.. and only if our bitching and whining is going to do anything... what's done is done.. and HST is coming july 2010 ftw or failblog... we'll see. |
Economies will always go up and down. I wonder what the next tax will be when the next recession hits |
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Oh wait.. its coming.. Jan 2010 |
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I was in Ontario when the "bomb was dropped" about HST. The general public had the same complaints, why? cause they didn't get a choice. Guess what? The Ontario Liberals ran a campaign of no tax changes too, yet HST goes into affect next year. Quote:
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$2.8B is about 7% of the $39B budget, and the difference of $2.3B from the previous $0.5B deficit is only 6% of total revenue. I may not have taken grade 10 Business Ed, yet +/-6% seems reasonable to adjust for. Quote:
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I'm sorry you feel this way, yet every politician isn't going to ask for your permission on every decision. Quote:
Here's where you're wrong: They are elected, and work for us, yet we elect them once every 4 years to make decisions for us. Did they have to consult you on the tax decreases over the past decade that has BCians paying far less income tax now (about $2K on $70K/yr)? That same decision is impacting the budget now, having taken away money in good times that could have been used to balance the budget in bad times. Personally I'd love to be consulted on tax decreases. Taxes should not be decreased in good times, they should be raised and put into rainy-day accounts for future bad times. Yet I wasn't consulted (not withstanding that I didn't live here). |
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