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^ Same with property tax. Can't do much about that either. |
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^^ that's an obvious one. I think everyone on here knows Mickz is totally wrong. The top 10% of earners pay over 50% of the total tax. the bottom 50% of income earners pay something like 5% of the overal tax. I've seen someone pay $1.6 million dollars in income tax to the CRA last year. The majority of the population will make that much . . their whole life. |
the news said last night that icbc is looking into the hst and might make us pay more then we already do for insurance... FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU |
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I hate discussions my old coworkers who were Liberal/NDP (left) supporters. They would constantly berate me on Conservative policy that cut social spending. I would always argue they aren't paying their fair share, they demand more social services yet want others to pay for them, ie: I made 50% more than them, yet paid 90% more in taxes. Income taxes are at the lowest in a couple decades, yet people still don't save and spend it on flat screen TVs, leasing luxury cars, and eating out - all while demanding more services and less taxes. If consumption taxes change this, its for the better. |
taylor192 is right - if people are complaining about a consumption tax increase, then perhaps they should save more? In fact, I'm surprised that he's so Keynesian about economic policy since, you know, that went out of fashion in the 1970s. If politicians had to consult the general public on every decsion they made, nothing would ever get done because for the most part, the general public is largely ignorant of the complexities of economic and social policies. For an example of the public's ignorance, we only need to look at what's happening in the States with their health care debate that has been hijacked by a bunch of buffoons who are comparing revised health insurance schemes to Hitler's policies. If I had been a fly on the wall in the offices of the economists working in BC's Finance Ministry for the last several years, I would have probably seen countless briefing notes urging the Cabinet to implement the HST. I'll say it again - the best decisions are seldom the most popular. |
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If the Liberals were so absolutely confident in the HST, why didn't they announce their plans to implement it in their campaign before the last election? |
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Fuck the PST Fuck the GST Fuck the HST Fuck property tax Fuck MSP Fuck Income Tax (which was suppose to be a temporary tax anyway) Fuck Carbon Tax The thing is, it's only going to get worse and there is no way around it. You can vote for any person you like, you can complain all you want, in the end, it's all going to be the same. The plan is to slide taxes in left right and center so that YOU are someone else's bitch /rant |
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GST, HST, and carbon tax are consumption taxes. You should pay for what you use, and that's not just the sale price. You should pay all environment, health, admin, disposal, ... costs associated with that item. Property tax pays for infrastructure, if you want to avoid it, there's lots of shacks in the woods. MSP is paid by many employers, mine does. If you want to avoid paying it, get a better job. Its cheap coverage, lookup how much it'll cost you in the US. Basically you don't want to pay tax, yet you want roads, hospitals, schools, police, ... sorry to tell you, it doesn't work that way. |
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the voting turnout for hte last provincial election was horrible. I have a buddy that works for the gov't in Victoria, and he has stated, even tho the facts and numbers are true, that it will help the economy grow, the short term effects of this will hurt ALOT of people. sadly, the truth is, international business persons that work outside of Vancouver will spend their money here regardless because THEY have the money. its the HONEST citizens of the city that are going to suffer short term, and partially be saved in the long run by outside money paying for the HST. truth be told, IF infact, this was policy was given to the public before any decisions were made in victoria, the HST would not been initialized and put to action as quickly as this would and quite possibly another election would be looming |
like I said before, we're fucked and there's nothing we can do about it. Just have to suck it up |
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Consumer support for the underground economy will always be spotty, because there's no support for the consumer in it. |
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