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Expresso 09-17-2009 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr.HappySilp (Post 6596878)
There are 2 ppl in my work place who never ever buy a bus ticket for the last few years and never been caught. They have the same reason as me, Once transitlink start to put thier shit together we will start supporting them.

This kind of goes to the point I want to make. Why don't they install the damn turnstiles NOW? I'm sure there must be some kind of added revenue in that.

I agree that the current infrastructure is pretty bad, imagine when the Olympics roll in no one will get on the trains lol.

Vege 09-17-2009 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by mr_piggy (Post 6597128)
Why are you people so heated up anyways? If you live in Richmond, that means you like living there and spend most of your time there anyway. Why do people choose to live in one city then spend 100's of hours every year driving to other cities? LOL

The majority of people do not have the luxury of living in the same city as where they work.

iEatClams 09-17-2009 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Tapioca (Post 6596642)
Perhaps people should have actually looked into what wages/administrative costs actually mean in the grand scheme of things...

Administrative costs (i.e. wages, etc.) account for a rather small portion of Translink's budget. According to Translink's 2008 report, administrative costs were in the neighbourhood of $39 million, out $1 billion in total expenditures. Even if you cut wages in half, it still won't amount to much. Really, would you drive a bus for $15/hour and have people spit in your face? Probably not...

But, if you've taken the Canada Line, you will notice that a private company is running things. So, Translink is listening (sorta.) ;)

I really liked how you brought up that admin cost point.

But we're not just talking about translink, but other crown corporations as well.

There are plenty of places to make wage cuts in the public sector. Many of the jobs do require the high wages, but there are plenty more that don't require $25/hr + awesome benefits to be a receptionist.

The market should determine the wages. For many jobs that have a huge supply of workers wanting to and able to do the occupation, I dont understand why the wages are so high for many jobs that do not require a lot of skill/education.

Even if we save $2 million a year or so. That's 2 million that could be used to do things like. . . . .cover the potholes!

quasi 09-17-2009 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by spoon.ctr.ek9 (Post 6597018)

also, there was that $600,000 settlement translink had to pay for that one cambie street business owner! they are appealing but imagine the kind of precedent that sets for the other owners who are in the crapper because of the canada line construction!

That person totally deserved that money IMO as they totally fucked her business. I hope all the other business who were affected sue as well.

shenmecar 09-17-2009 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by mr_piggy (Post 6597128)
Why are you people so heated up anyways? If you live in Richmond, that means you like living there and spend most of your time there anyway. Why do people choose to live in one city then spend 100's of hours every year driving to other cities? LOL

Richmond-bubble phenomenon right there.

quasi 09-17-2009 12:53 PM

For shits and giggles, some people posts in the threads talking about tolling Port Mann, Patullo and Golden Ears bridges when it doesn't effect them. I'm sure they feel the same way now, toll that fucker. [/sarcasm]


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Originally Posted by ctsport (Post 5969699)
I don't get what all the complaining is about. Vancouverites such as myself rarely venture into the Surrey, etc, so why should I pay for someone else's commute?

And its also great news for people who live in the 'burbs as well, now you get a brand new bridge to speed up your commute.

Its only fair that you pay for what you use and not have the taxpayer foot the bill.

Its like when my friends and I head to Calgary, we have to pay to use the highway, its only fair because most people who live in BC or Alberta will never/rarely use this route, why should they have to pay for it?

http://www.revscene.net/forums/patul...highlight=toll


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Originally Posted by LongDongSilver (Post 6265048)
It's called differential revenue and differential cost guys, you move out to bum fuck no where and decide to get a cheaper house but you get a job or whatever in the city it's the price to pay.

Frankly, I don't want my tax dollars to pay for shit I'll never use.

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Originally Posted by Mugen EvOlutioN (Post 6265076)
fuck ya, especially when they are taxing me 25-30%

http://www.revscene.net/forums/new-p...highlight=toll


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Originally Posted by Mr.HappySilp (Post 6264734)
I like the idea. I haven't cross to surrey for years so why should my tax dollar go towards a bridge I will never ever use?

Let the ppl who use it pay for it.

http://www.revscene.net/forums/new-p...highlight=toll

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Originally Posted by ctsport (Post 6234342)
People who live in Vancouver (or whatever city you live in) pays for the construction/maintenance of bridges within our city and thats fair. But when it comes to bridges that connect two municipalities then I think they should all be tolled. You use what you pay for.. I don't like subsidizing idiots who choose to commute 1+hr to work each way to work.

http://www.revscene.net/forums/pattu...highlight=toll

jeff_alexander 09-17-2009 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Vege (Post 6597270)
The majority of people do not have the luxury of living in the same city as where they work.

Well fuck them

hk20000 09-17-2009 01:22 PM

^ Nice I want to fuck the majority of (female) population too.

spoon.ek9 09-17-2009 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by quasi (Post 6597557)
That person totally deserved that money IMO as they totally fucked her business. I hope all the other business who were affected sue as well.

i agree, i didn't that she doesn't deserve it. every business that went under should get some kind of compensation. it was absolutely selfish and ignorant for translink to implement a cut-and-over to save costs and expect no one to sue.

my point was that, despite reasonable logic (and ethical issues), chances are that translink will try to make us pay for that settlement and any others in the future.

TruboChrager 09-17-2009 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by JesseBlue (Post 6596530)
since we're in this subject, let's copy london and toll downtown! we all know that's where the money makers are! hehe

LOL. Might as well toll every bloody street in Lower mainland for that matter.

tiger_handheld 09-17-2009 03:08 PM

just heard on the radio that Golden Ears makes about 1mil per month in tolls.

JesseBlue 09-17-2009 06:20 PM

translink ceos/directors/supervisors get more than that!

!Tigger 09-17-2009 08:05 PM

ICBC = Crown Corp = surplus

shit roads shitty bus service. = translink

why not take ICBC's surplus and fucking fix these god damn roads

Jeffield 09-17-2009 08:22 PM

To be honest, If they do Toll

Please toll EVERY bridge, just to make it make more sense, like the crappier bridges for cheaper... and better ones for a little more and even better ones little more

like

$2
$5
$10


Not percisely in that price... please no

but do it like how they do it in Hong Kong

mr_piggy 09-17-2009 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Vege (Post 6597270)
The majority of people do not have the luxury of living in the same city as where they work.

I think thats one of the lamest excuses I hear from people. "Vancouver is so expensive etc. etc" Umm.. no its not. Almost anyone who has a full time job can afford to live in Vancouver. Its just that supersized North Americans like their Supersized cars and Supersized houses and they'd rather spend 100's of additional hours commuting every year so they can buy that monster house in the suburbs instead of a nice condo in the city.

With everything said and done, living in the suburbs and commuting is actually MORE expensive than living in the city when you include the added stress, time, expense, etc. So why do so many people still do this? Because they are fucking STUPID! :D

quasi 09-17-2009 09:53 PM

Delete off topic.

tiger_handheld 09-17-2009 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by mr_piggy (Post 6598466)
I think thats one of the lamest excuses I hear from people. "Vancouver is so expensive etc. etc" Umm.. no its not. Almost anyone who has a full time job can afford to live in Vancouver. Its just that supersized North Americans like their Supersized cars and Supersized houses and they'd rather spend 100's of additional hours commuting every year so they can buy that monster house in the suburbs instead of a nice condo in the city.

With everything said and done, living in the suburbs and commuting is actually MORE expensive than living in the city when you include the added stress, time, expense, etc. So why do so many people still do this? Because they are fucking STUPID! :D

Tell me how I(used generally) can pay a mortgage with 12/hr with a wife who makes $10/hr with two kids 1 in elementry and 1 in highschool.

can i own a house in "vancouver" - tell me where ( 2 br , 2 full bath )

(12*160hrs/mo + 10*160hrs/mo) = 3500/mo gross x 18% for tax =2860 after tax x 12 = 35k per year!


can i own a decent car ? decent = 2000+ without it having to breakdown every 2500km

seems like ur in fantasy land mr.piggy, or u've grown up with money all ur life that you have lost its meaning..

Vege 09-17-2009 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by mr_piggy (Post 6598466)
I think thats one of the lamest excuses I hear from people. "Vancouver is so expensive etc. etc" Umm.. no its not. Almost anyone who has a full time job can afford to live in Vancouver. Its just that supersized North Americans like their Supersized cars and Supersized houses and they'd rather spend 100's of additional hours commuting every year so they can buy that monster house in the suburbs instead of a nice condo in the city.

With everything said and done, living in the suburbs and commuting is actually MORE expensive than living in the city when you include the added stress, time, expense, etc. So why do so many people still do this? Because they are fucking STUPID! :D

Have you checked how much it costs to afford a home in Vancouver? I as well as many people I know would rather buy a house in the suburbs than live in a small condo in Vancouver.

iEatClams 09-17-2009 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by mr_piggy (Post 6598466)

With everything said and done, living in the suburbs and commuting is actually MORE expensive than living in the city when you include the added stress, time, expense, etc. So why do so many people still do this? Because they are fucking STUPID! :D


WTF are you talking about?? So you're calling everyone that can't afford to live in vancouver stupid. I don't even know where to begin to describe how stupid you are.

I've lived almost everywhere in the lower mainland.

Burnaby, East Van, Langley, Delta, Surrey, Burnaby (by SFU), Coquitlam, and Abbotsford.

It's near impossible for me to afford a house in East Van on an average persons salary unless I have help from rich parents. If I got kids, I can't live in a condo!

fuck . i dont even want to start . . .just want to say you're an idiot!

Mr.HappySilp 09-18-2009 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by quasi (Post 6597690)
For shits and giggles, some people posts in the threads talking about tolling Port Mann, Patullo and Golden Ears bridges when it doesn't effect them. I'm sure they feel the same way now, toll that fucker. [/sarcasm]




http://www.revscene.net/forums/patul...highlight=toll






http://www.revscene.net/forums/new-p...highlight=toll




http://www.revscene.net/forums/new-p...highlight=toll



http://www.revscene.net/forums/pattu...highlight=toll

U quoted me wrong lol. I never complain aobut the tolling of the bridges. I just came to express my feelings aobut how crappy bus/skytrain services is even though they are getting huge amounts of fundings from tax/revenues and other sauces.

This tolling is not going to help to improve the public transportation in any way. Is just a money grab for the higher ups so they can give themselvies 40% annual raise every year.

Jobo 09-18-2009 07:18 AM

They'll be fucked if there's an earthquake warning and they are told to evacuate the area.
HA!

tiger_handheld 09-18-2009 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Vege (Post 6598649)
Have you checked how much it costs to afford a home in Vancouver? I as well as many people I know would rather buy a house in the suburbs than live in a small condo in Vancouver.

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Originally Posted by azndude69 (Post 6598651)
WTF are you talking about?? So you're calling everyone that can't afford to live in vancouver stupid. I don't even know where to begin to describe how stupid you are.

I've lived almost everywhere in the lower mainland.

Burnaby, East Van, Langley, Delta, Surrey, Burnaby (by SFU), Coquitlam, and Abbotsford.

It's near impossible for me to afford a house in East Van on an average persons salary unless I have help from rich parents. If I got kids, I can't live in a condo!

fuck . i dont even want to start . . .just want to say you're an idiot!


I thought i was the only soldier in the mr.piggy battle.

garrhh - still pisses me off

trig 09-18-2009 11:10 AM

:mad:
http://www.news1130.com/news/local/m...18_100650_2648

hotjoint 09-18-2009 11:17 AM

^ wow these motherfuckers are crazy.

asahai69 09-18-2009 12:25 PM

time to buy a boat


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