i never said anything about shortening the stopping distance noob, you answered it yourself, its design to control the car during hard braking, you either apply less brake pressure on a non-abs car and brake earlier in the corner or use an ABS car and brake later and into the corner.

go take some track lessons first before talking. I've probably gotten more real track days experience then you in forza :rolleyes:

non-ABS is only good for training braking, but ultimately ABS cars still have the fastest lap times

^ LOL

Why do race cars not utilize ABS?

Because they are banned. Just like traction control, launch control, etc. They want to keep it more about driver skill than simply electronic programming.

With traction control, a poor driver can drive faster, while a good driver would drive slower, thus narrowing the field not allowing those who are more skilled to excel.

Without ABS, a good driver will be much faster than a poor driver, whereas ABS will just falsely assist the poor driver.

^ exactly. I think the WRC cars have electronic diff control but I think it only allows it to be manually adjusted through electronics, theres no computer changing diff settings automatically as they drive.

is ABS on newer cars different? the only vehicle I've been in where ABS has kicked in was my moms 92 Aerostar, where it pumps the brakes on and off for you. But in games where I've had ABS on (haven't tried FM3 yet) the brakes don't stutter they just keep the max pressure without locking up. If it's still the kind that stutters there's no way anyone would want that on a race car I don't think...

for max braking your suppose to have max pressure with out locking up, so in real life abs saves lives, helps you turn.

if fm3 the abs helps with max pressure so technically it shortens stopping distance

That's you saying that, and from what i understand ur saying that by braking later it shortens braking distance.... and if u've had lessons in a real car then u should know that u never ever brake during a corner... which is what i'm interpreting as ur saying in the top quote, oh and ome more thing u notice how when you brake really hard and there are "stuttered" tire marks on the road? that's the wheels locking up and increasing ur stopping distance whereas with a non-abs car (if you can control it) it won't happen

And please don't start throwing "i'm better than you in real life" speeches because I hve had instructors teach me on car control and racing both in autox and circuit.... and I have the nurburgring in my avatar for a reason, i've gone down the north circuit multiple times on my own and in the BMW M5 ring taxi

Okay guys no flame wars please. Keep this thread civilized.

take it to the track! lol. another meet tonight guys?

im down wit dat LOL fosho

anyone else got free cars from Turn10?

I just turned it on and said I got 2 gift cars from Turn10, one R8 and one RX8, both tuned to A600 class

Yeah I did.

we should have another meet tomorrow before everyone forgets about forza and just play mw2 all month!

http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u...am/Supra01.jpg
http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u...am/Supra02.jpg

drift cars:

http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/709/forza39.jpg

http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/7926/forza36.jpg

http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/3507/forza5z.jpg

http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/4899/forza3h.jpg

awesome pictures!

instead of putting an N you guys should put a L

this game type looks kind of funny:

forza 3 soccer

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EO6Yg4ovJIM

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LOL LOL LOL

epic awesome^

haha header at 0:58

anyone up for a game tonight? around 9pm?

just got live again

aznboi128

:)

how much is this game

some of my drift cars i made

http://img685.imageshack.us/img685/4572/forza9.jpg

http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/2181/forza12f.jpg

http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/2856/forza14e.jpg

http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/9871/forza15aa.jpg

http://img688.imageshack.us/img688/7519/forza16b.jpg