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Old 11-21-2009, 05:03 PM   #1
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Couple Busted for Refusing to Pay Tip

http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/...052.html?yhp=1


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Old 11-21-2009, 05:10 PM   #2
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in the states a lot of areas make it the law to pay a tip


only in america
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Old 11-21-2009, 05:13 PM   #3
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^ Oh really? I didn't know that.
No wonder why it was such a big deal.
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Wow... I really don't think tipping should be mandatory. Yes, it does protect the waiter/waitress from those under-tipping cheap bastards, but it does not encourage the waiter/waitress to provide good service to the customers since they are going to get tips anyways. Just my $0.02
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The reason is that in a lot of states the minimum wage can be calculated *including tip*; ie: they Can pay servers as little as $2.50, but the minimum wage is around $7 or so.

Fucked up, huh?
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Old 11-21-2009, 05:59 PM   #6
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Mandatory tip = shipping and handling fee (kitchen -> table)
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should be no tip at all
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Mandatory tip = shipping and handling fee (kitchen -> table)
if thats the case, then wats the minimum wage for?haha


its a service their providing, they're getting paid minimum for w/e the fuck their job is. tip is extra if i like them... ppl these days take tips for granted....i worked in the restaurant industry before too, and if ppl dont tip me i know why. so for those who suck at their job and complain about the tips, do something about it like provide the good service

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Mandatory tip = shipping and handling fee (kitchen -> table)
One can argue shipping and handling is a product. The product that the customer got was broken therefore the customer should not be obligated to pay.

If only that argument works with Canada Post, UPS, or whatever too.
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should be no tip at all
The problem with that is things will just get more expensive since businesses will have to pay their employees more.
Nobody will want to be a waiter/waitress/bartender/etc for $8 hr. Anyone that is willing to do that work for that little will be ugly and will most likely do a shitty job cuz they dont really want to be there.
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mandatory tips is stupid. And thats why waiters and waitresses don't do their jobs properly and takes the money for granted
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now nobody will go to that bar lol
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tip_%28gratuity%29

"Government employees

Under federal law it is considered bribery to tip federal government employees. However, they are permitted to receive unsolicited non-monetary gifts less than or equal to $20.00.[1]"
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maybe they're thinking "there's no such thing as bad publicity" LOL
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The problem with that is things will just get more expensive since businesses will have to pay their employees more.
Nobody will want to be a waiter/waitress/bartender/etc for $8 hr. Anyone that is willing to do that work for that little will be ugly and will most likely do a shitty job cuz they dont really want to be there.
If the tip is mandatory, that item is already "more expensive". The real cost of the item is simply hidden by relabelling "labour costs" as "gratuity".

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As of July 24, 2009 (2009 -07-24)[update], the federal minimum wage in the United States is $7.25 per hour. Many states and municipalities have minimum wages higher than this (see List of U.S. minimum wages), but some U.S. territories (such as American Samoa) are exempt. Some types of labor are also exempt, and tipped labor must be paid a minimum of $2.13 per hour, as long as the hourly wage plus tipped income result in a minimum of $7.25 per hour.
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mandatory tips is stupid. And thats why waiters and waitresses don't do their jobs properly and takes the money for granted

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tips are not necessary if they dont earn it.
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