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Old 02-12-2010, 03:59 PM   #51
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the dumbfuck has probably spent more time than you've been alive designing luge tracks. im sure the endless precise calculations done in the design go well beyond your scientific conclusion of "at leats twice the height as they are now"



dont blame the designers.
That dumbfuck fucked up. That's all that matters here, really. The "precise calculations" must've been pretty shitty.
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Old 02-12-2010, 03:59 PM   #52
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I'm curious about who actually designs the track? IOC?
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that's so brutal, can't believe that happened


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they aired the crash on ctv, thought that was distasteful. dont need to see that on opening night..
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now everybody going down that same course is gonna be so psychologically unstable and mindfucked that somethin happened
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Old 02-12-2010, 04:44 PM   #58
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RIP to the luger. Hope designers learn from this.

The designers may have experience, but not once did they see the possibility of a rider leaving the track? isnt this partly the same reason why they surround race tracks with steel fences? it may not happen at all, but you should be preventing this stuff, not watching and fixing after.

and those steel beams. they could have moved those steel beams back a few metres and just use longer trusses to support what i think is the roof. the guy could have landed on the pavement with nothing but broken bones to show for it.

then again, hindsight is 20/20. frustrating to see deadly accidents when they can be prevented.
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Can Lugers control their speed or do they just brace for the ride?

I know they're supposed to tackle a course as fast as possible but if they have control over speed, isn't part of tackling courses managing your turns?
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how come there is no padding on those posts? i know it probably might not have done much better, but you would never know right?
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simply putting up a bigger barrier or move the damn poles would've prevented this tragedy...

RIP... he died doing what he loved
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Uh in this case you do blame the designers for the following reasons.

1. Why would you place the steel columns after the fastest and hardest turn.
2. Why wouldn't you have the walls to be twice the height.
2. Why wouldn't you put some sort of safety net, safety pad the the steel columns or put up some fiberglass to help mitigate and at least absorb the athelete's crash.

I know its all in retrospect but a little bit more diligence would have saved a life today.

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uh...i actually agree with RRxtar, as an undergrad of a designer school, it's not as easy as u think designing every single thing in its place, not just put it there and get the result u wanted to get...i'm not an expert in designing professional olympic tracks, but as u can see in the picture and video, the "steel columns" supports the metal roof above all the way outside of the track, they didn't just build it right at the corner, so i'm guessing there must be a purpose for it to be there. i'm not saying it's the luger's fault to propel himself to the steel column, just saying it's all an unwanted accident.

really, dun blame the designers, they actually do more math on this single track...actually more than some people would in their lifetime. if it's just as simple as double the wall height, put safety pad/fiberglass and that would save the dude's life, then i guess anyone could be a designer.

btw doubling the wall height won't work, so if he actually went out of control and on to the wall...the way he comes back down would've killed him too since the other side of the track is open...
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RIP.

If you watch the video closely and turn up the volume, you can hear him trying his fuckin hardest to slow down on that turn. He was out of the line as he entered high then went low to create a slingshot effect which ultimately caused the horrific accident. Such a sad day for the world.
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RIP, thats just horrible to happen to anyone. I hope some serious lesson's get learned from this event. I feel for the athletes family. He died doing something he loved. 60,000 person standing ovation for him and his country. Wow.

To anyone making any sort of joke, or trying to be smart in this thread. Get a life. A person wiith family, loved ones, and many friends just passed away. Give him, his family, and his country some respect.
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maybe nets or foam pads are not put in place cause atheltes dont want it cause it may be a distraction?

I donno, but i dont really think is a "design" issue, more of a distraction for cameraman and paramedics to get into the track..
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Why is everyone blaming the track? The guy is going down a track at 90 MPh on a tiny little sled. It's pretty easy to make a small mistake and die. That's why it's so dangerous and exciting. Accidents happen, and it's unfortunate. But everyone is using this as another excuse to shit on the Vancouver olympics.
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Why is everyone blaming the track? The guy is going down a track at 90 MPh on a tiny little sled. It's pretty easy to make a small mistake and die. That's why it's so dangerous and exciting. Accidents happen, and it's unfortunate. But everyone is using this as another excuse to shit on the Vancouver olympics.
Maybe because nobody has died before? Especially on the first day, before the opening ceremony?
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Maybe because nobody has died before? Especially on the first day, before the opening ceremony?
All the previous tracks where you have someone going down 100+ kph with nothing but a body suit and helmet is all equally susceptible for an accident.

It just happened here. This sport has long since been dangerous well before Vancouver.
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Why is everyone blaming the track? The guy is going down a track at 90 MPh on a tiny little sled. It's pretty easy to make a small mistake and die. That's why it's so dangerous and exciting. Accidents happen, and it's unfortunate. But everyone is using this as another excuse to shit on the Vancouver olympics.
yeah, cause the sled's got brakes right?
give me a break...no one on this board is using a tragedy to shit on the games.

read the bbc link, other athletes have already injured themselves on this track and have expressed their concerns before this accident. Accidents happen, but when it's the first to kill an athelete in a sport that's been around for ages something tells me there's a poor design in the track
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All the previous tracks where you have someone going down 100+ kph with nothing but a body suit and helmet is all equally susceptible for an accident.

It just happened here. This sport has long since been dangerous well before Vancouver.
Considering other athletets that "survived" it are complaining about it, not to mention that they suspended the event, I think there's something up with the track. If somebody can somehow FLY off the fucking track, into STEEL beams inches away, yeah, I think something is up with the fucking track???
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This was being shown live all over whistler when it happened. A very sad situation.

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