TOS'd, there is 1 store that have all the sizes, and do everything for you.. Did you ask the one furthest from the technician?

Mine connects, tested the functions on it too. Call Fwd, Make it ring, lock phone, track phone.

Where specifically? Outside or Inside (ie which side)?
I went to all of them that had someone in it and asked if they had screen protectors, and then showed them my phone. I have the desire Z btw, not the normal desire.

Mine was like that until i fixed the APN

The data APN worked for me, but when I tried doing the mms one it never listed under the added APNs. But I havent had a chance to test it either, I dont really mms.

Yeah, the store i am talking about is a white room, there is no ipad covers or anything, that is iskin or w.e the store is, they will have a book with photos of phones and their specifications, and I do clearly remember seeing the htc desire Z, it may depend on who you talked to, if it was the middle aged chinese man, he probably told you the wrong thing, hes a dumbass, the other 2 females working in there would know that they have it. I have walked in with the weirdest phone ever and got screen protectors from them. They also do custom fitted screen protectors if they don't have the desire Z, but im pretty sure they do.

^ K i think I know which you are talking about, its in the middle on the inside. I went there today, and there were 2 females working, asked them and showed them the phone. They said they didn't have it.

I thought you actually went to the store and got one, but apparently not. You were just assuming they had it..

To clarify, the cleaclear screens are still water. PrintePrinted ones aren't. Water is by far the best method, but it doesn't matter on the printed ones, since you wouldn't see the bubbles etc anyway.
Posted via RS Mobile

^ Just placed order for BSE, since zagg doesnt have the IS listed on their website yet.

I also cut down a SGS screen protector to fit on my dZ temporarily.


If I root to stock froyo, do I lose out on the features of HTCsense.com? Debating whether to go stock froyo, or froyo + sense UI.

What rom are you guys using. I'm using leedroid 2.2e and I just found out the video camera doesn't work, never used it before, and it completely crashed on me and rebooted itself. I'm thinking of ditching the sense ui all together.

2.2F for me. Make sure you're using a recent radio rom if the camera doesn't work.

Well ever since the crash due to the video camera my phone has steadily went down in battery life however it also no longer charges. I plugged it in at 28% and when I came back it was down to 16%. Charge light is on, it even says charging but will not hold a single thing.

Maybe you should reload from scratch? With a new radio Rom and caliberate the battery.
Posted via RS Mobile

This shit is so confusing lol, i still havent rooted desireZ.

just played with the desire z at bell, think i'm gonna pick it up later this week

its not too hard man!

Well on that site you posted awhile back, theres one with stock froyo and one with sense ui. But loading up stock froyo, can i still use htcsense.com?

Also not sure how to do things nandroid backup etc. So many termssss lol. Definitely more to know than jailbreaking and customizing an iphone.
Posted via RS Mobile

It's all easy as soon as you do it once.

Without HTC Sense, I don't think you'll be able to use htcsense.com features. It kind of makes... sense...

I think I'm going to return the Desire Z.

I'll suffer through the 9780 until the Nexus S comes out.

Any particular reason(s) why?

Despite getting sms time fix, sometimes the sms times are messed up still.

The phone itself is fine and I really like it.
I just don't expect to get a good resale on this phone like I have on my other ones in the past.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=835777

htc desire z rooting and debranding guide for noobs :thumbsup:

just an interesting video to show what the phone is capable of :)

Here's a long shot.

Does anyone have the stock Bell rom and bootloader?