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Old 05-20-2010, 01:21 PM   #26
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WW3 over a sunken warship? oh plz

If NK dropped bombs on Seoul, diff story
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If there is a WW3, it'll be over in an instant. I'm not too worried cuz chances are I'll live or I'll get vaporized in half a second.
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Although rumor has it that Kim Jong-Il went to China asking for support and China rejected it, it's hard to say that China will stay neutral/allied with US when US/NATO will be hovering over near their soil.

Heck, this might be the only chance for China to become world superpower as history has shown, every time the superpower changes, it takes a war to do that.
If they go to war:
China's most likely gonna stay neutral until North Korea is almost destroyed, then join the allies. That way they get a piece of North Korea when it gets demolished.

If its all talk:
China probably will "officially" denounce North Korea of their actions, and then continue with their aid.

No way would China try to throw the military behind this blindly. They have too much to lose if they openly support anything against USA/Allies etc. China is already a superpower, its not just the nukes and planes anymore. The only thing they really have to do to cause worldwide mayhem (other than shooting nukes) would be just to dump their US dollar holdings.
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I wouldn't give China that much credit. The USA has recovered from worse economic problems and became much stronger because of it. If China decides to yank the cord the US could always pull a Germany and artificially inflate it's economy temporarily.
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China has helped Korea in so many wars in the past, and they got screwed every time.
I doubt they'll do it again.
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One of the better article that I have read regarding the situation. Ironically its from Al Jazeera...

http://english.aljazeera.net/news/as...430460802.html

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Investigators said the evidence gathered provided 'no other plausible explanation' [AFP]
The US has said that there will "definately be consequences" for the alleged torpeadoing of a South Korean warship by North Korea.

PJ Crowley, a US state department spokesman, said on Thursday that the act in March was "unprovoked and unwarranted".

"Clearly this was a serious provocation by North Korea and there will definitely be consequences because of what North Korea has done," Crowly said.

However, Robert Gates, the US defence secretary, later said South Korea will be in the lead in deciding how to respond, although he said that the US navy and airforce could be in a position to help.

Gates denied that the navy and airforce were overstretched by the US' wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Mike Mullen, chairman of the US Joint Chiefs of Staff, also said that even though tensions had risen in the region, American forces in South Korea were not on a heightened state of readiness.

An investigation team, which included experts from the US, Britain and Sweden, said there was overwhelming evidence that the explosion that sank the Cheonan warship in the disputed Yellow Sea border on March 26 was caused by a torpedo from a North Korean submarine .

It said markings in Korea's Hangeul script were found on salvaged parts and matched markings on a stray North Korean torpedo recovered by the South seven years ago.

There has been angry reaction in Seoul and condemnation from the UN, the US and Japan.

Pyongynag said the investigation was a "sheer fabrication" and has warned of "full scale" war if new sanctions are imposed upon the country.

The White House, calling the report "objective and scientific", strongly condemned the deadly attack.

Tighter sanctions

Steve Chao, Al Jazeera's correspondent in the South Korean capital, said the report had major implications in terms of North-South relations, as well as the region.


Etchings on salvaged parts matched those on a North Korean torpedo recovered earlier [AFP]
"The South Korean president is expected to approach the UN Security Council to call for tighter sanctions against the North, a call that is already seeing support from Seoul's allies," he said.

"In recent days the South Korean government has been presenting this evidence to a number of countries to gather support.

"We've already heard support from strong allies such as Australia, the US and Japan."

The North Korean National Defence Commission, in a statement on the official news agency, said it will send its own investigators to the South to check the purported evidence.

"Our army and people will promptly react to any 'punishment' and 'retaliation' and to any 'sanctions' infringing upon our state interests with various forms of tough measures including an all-out war," it said.

The commission, the North's top decision-making body, repeated denials of involvement and threatened "all-out war" in response to any punitive measures such as sanctions.

It accused the South's conservative government of using the incident for political gain and to worsen already chilly ties between the two Koreas, which have yet to sign a formal peace treaty to end their 1950-53 war.

'Perfect match'

The investigation team said the Cheonan was split apart by a shockwave and bubble effect produced by the underwater explosion of a 250 kilogramme North Korean torpedo.

It said torpedo parts recovered including the propellers, propulsion motor and a steering section "perfectly match the schematics of the CHT-02D torpedo included in introductory brochures provided to foreign countries by North Korea for export purposes".

"The evidence points overwhelmingly to the conclusion that the torpedo was fired by a North Korean submarine," the joint civilian and military investigation team said.

"There is no other plausible explanation."

Intelligence gathered with the South's allies - the US, Britain and Australia - showed North Korean submarines were likely in operation near the scene of the sinking, with similar vessels of other neighbouring countries all inside their territorial waters.

"Based on all such relevant facts and classified analysis, we have reached the clear conclusion that [South Korea's] Cheonan was sunk as a result of an external underwater explosion caused by a torpedo made in North Korea," the report said.

The North refuses to accept the borderline drawn in the Yellow Sea, where the Cheonan went down.

The area was the scene of deadly clashes in 1999 and 2002 and of a firefight last November that left a North Korean boat in flames.

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One conspiracy is that the US sunk the S. korean ship to provoke war between N. korea and S. korea lol
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One conspiracy is that the US sunk the S. korean ship to provoke war between N. korea and S. korea lol
I actually wouldn't doubt that. US wanted to get rid of N.Korea's nukes for a long time now.

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They probably do... not like they would let anyone outside of N. Korea know about it.
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thats a really tiny warship... no wuner it got sunk!


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at least Canada won't get dragged into it.
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meh, there will be some nuking...and the damn radiation will drift over here to vancouver with some weird weather pattern....
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did anybody look at the map where this happened. why the fuck would u go so close to NK,when u know they liked to be provoked. anyhow talking to some korean friends.. they say South Korean public themselves are skeptical about NK involvement.

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so it was south korea's fault for sailing so close to north korea?
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thats a really tiny warship... no wuner it got sunk!!
The picture shows the stern half of the ship.
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who cares about obama, JIM just care about wars
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THing is...s kOREa has to do something... 46 people died here... not sure if this can continue as a 'war of words'.
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THing is...s kOREa has to do something... 46 people died here... not sure if this can continue as a 'war of words'.
specially because Elections are coming up soon
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did anybody look at the map where this happened. why the fuck would u go so close to NK,when u know they liked to be provoked. anyhow talking to some korean friends.. they say South Korean public themselves are skeptical about NK involvement.

island just above X is SK land, there are SKoreans living there, NK should bomb that island too since it's too close?
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THing is...s kOREa has to do something... 46 people died here... not sure if this can continue as a 'war of words'.
that's really frustrating, what could they do? SK has too much to lose
all they can do is just talk talk talk, send more rice and cattle
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I'm surprised nobody has called North Korea's bluff about "all-out war" to be honest. They've been bluffing for decades. How are they going to keep feeding their armies if food is cut off?

I'm amazed the superpowers put up with this kind of junk. DPRK's like a bratty spoiled kid.
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China would never be for a war. They need the buffer nk provides right now. Nothing will change...nk and sk will always be divided. The only one who wants the unification would be the usa...to be on china's doorstep.
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