well i guess we better pray that GT3 is cheaper to maintain afterall the original price tag MSRP is lower than other exotics, Lambo, F430 etc nonetheless....great pick up :thumbsup: |
Should be. Not too much huge of a diff to std 911. And 911 arent bad reliability wise Posted via RS Mobile |
The only $25k M3's I've seen are higher mileage pre '04 cars. And in reading your list of repair items, that $25k M3 will quickly turn into a $35k M3 if you are unlucky. The M3 is a good jack of all trades car, but I don't think it's by no means a used car bargain. There are going to be a lot of young kids with $25k in hand buying a beat on M3 and finding themselves in over their head when they have issues with the sub-frame, VANOS or simply having to pay for a valve adjustment. Don't get me wrong, it's a fantastic car. A good buddy just picked up a clean example last year. But, IMO, no, it's not the best used car purchase for $25k. Kev |
it is still one of the best 6 cylinder car ever made tho just gotta prepare a deeper pocket for mainteance after picking it up for cheap ($25-32g):rofl::drool |
Unreliable car Posted via RS Mobile |
The E46 n/a with an exhaust sounds worse than any fartcan civic i've ever heard. It's probally one of the worst sounding bmw's ever. Quote:
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this thread is so much of fail... With lower labour rate and 10% discount in parts, ispection2 is actually cheaper than I thought.. lol |
Yah. If you are getting all the maintenance done by the stealership of course its going to be expensive. Its not that bad if you bring it to a indy shop Posted via RS Mobile |
e39 m5 > e46 m3 |
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BMW is the only euro brand that id ever consider buying from, but those big $$$ repair bills keep me from pulling the trigger. |
I think it's hilarious how people on RS make it sound like owning European cars guarantees massive repair bills. Yes, the car is slightly less reliable than a Honda/Toyota, but it's not an exotic or something. You can still rely on your car to start every day and get you from point A to point B without any issues. Parts are a bit more expensive, yes, but hourly labour rates from an independent shop shouldn't be any more than you'd pay at a Honda/Toyota dealership, for example. There are a few known issues on early-model M3's, but even then they affect a small percentage of vehicles... you're not guaranteed (or even likely) to get one needing subframe repairs or VANOS failure or whatever else, especially if you have it inspected before buying. Besides, you get what you pay for... the e46 M3 is a brilliant car. Even if it costs you a few hundred dollars more in maintenance every year, wouldn't you be willing to pay that for pleasure of driving it every day? My e46, although not an M3, is reliable enough even with 140,000km on it... and it's a sheer joy to own and drive. I'd never trade it in for a lesser car even if it meant I'd save a thousand dollars a year on maintenance. |
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Its all the horror stories ive heard about M3's that ive heard about them having poor oiling problems in the block, that VANOS problem etc. Ive owned hondas for the last 8 years though, so ive also been spoiled with cheap repair costs. |
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You honestly think that sounds good? Those clips sound like complete shit... No way would I invest in aftermarket pipes for an M3 after hearing that garbage. |
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90%+ of e46 M3's are still on the road without any major problems. For an $85,000 car (new) with outstanding performance, you're not likely to find anything that's much cheaper to own. Quote:
S54 motor was on the "best engines" award list four years in a row I believe. Not as smooth as the non-M straight-6's but still incredibly balanced compared to V6's and 4-bangers. The car is just a blast to drive, only other car that compares in terms of outright driving joy (for me, anyway) was the S2000. Except the M3 has torque, so it has usable power at the bottom end when driving around town. |
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you probably can't even afford the engine oil needed in the M3 even if the car is given to you for free. my 02 Carbon Black E46 M3 was the first batch of cars with SMG in HK, and so far only small electrical problems occurs till now (windows went down on its own, and alarm went off on its own) both fixed by BMW within a day. Other then the schedule maintenance and wear and tear (brakes, clutch, tires....etc) maintenance the car has been fine. my 05 Silver Grey in van had absolutely no problem even after I drove it like I stole it most of the time. I even used the launch control almost daily. BMW even gave me a new clutch before the warranty period was over. |
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even a 360 Modena's 3.6 high revving V8 is raspy as hell |
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Although straight pipes and wide open throttle on most engines with any sort of power will sound mean. |
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The rest of this post is most likely bullshit anyways lol. |
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I own an e46 330ci and if M3's were only $25k back when I bought this car I would be driving one right now, no question about it. It's really a bargain for that kind of car. Very few other vehicles have the same balance between daily comfort/practicality and raw, high-revving sports car performance. You could get a faster car, like a Z06, but would you want to drive it around town every day? Especially one that's 8 years old? I don't really mind the car overall, and there's no denying it's fast, but it's far less practical than an M3. |
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I've said that just to pick on you ! Just to let you know, I do have a B16 EG civic and a E46 M3. |
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